@@blueman2369 I believe Yamamoto throws average mid 90s. In my humble opinion MLB faster pitches will provide the power all Lee needs to do is what he does best make contact.
If he's able to adapt quickly to MLB level pitcher's off-speed/breaking pitches, he's going to be one of the more exciting rookie players this season and this is one hell of a rookie class. He just looks like a technician up there, no wasted movement, just precise. Idk i just have a good feeling about the kid. I had the 12th and final pick in my fantasy league's rookie draft and I couldn't believe he dropped to me.
i feel like we'll see his swing change a lot over the first two years. If i remember correctly shohei had a similar swing to lee but it changed a bit. Im a dodgers fan but I'm so hyped to see what he can do!
because KBO measures velocity in PTS, it is output more than 2 miles slower than MLB's measured velocity. Pitchers clocked at 90-93 mph in KBO were clocked at 95-96 mph in Seoul Series games. Therefore, KBO's average velocity would be approximately 90-95 mph. But he always had more talent than that.
I think the narrative that Lee cannot hit major league pitching is way over blown. He may surprise some people. I'm not saying he's going to hit .325 with 40 doubles and 130 hits in his rookie season. That would be amazing if he did though. Everybody keeps pointing out that KBO pitching is 85-92 mph and MLB pitching is 93+ and that he can't hit a Major League Fastball. As a Giants fan I am excited to find out what he has done in the off season to get himself ready for Major League camp. As others have pointed out watch his at bats in the WBC and tell me he can't hit a Major League Fastball.
Yeah like others here already mentioned...his numbers against mid 90's heat are concerning. Also, I thought I read somewhere that he is mostly a ground ball hitter. Do you have the stats on that? Anyway, I REALLY want this guy to succeed because I'm a Giants fan. If he ends up with Ha-seong Kim type numbers I guess I can't be upset. Padres fans love that guy.
anything above 95-96mph is pretty rare in the kbo, so he'll definitely struggle right out of the gate just like Ha-Seong Kim did in 2021. But, it is quite obvious (well at least to us Korean fans) that Lee is way more talented than Ha-Seong Kim in terms of batting skills. I feel like Lee's gonna make adjustments much quicker than Kim did and will start producing good numbers after two or three months into the season.
No doubt! Honestly not overly concerned about the 93+ challenges. Ha-Seong Kim had BRUTAL numbers against velocity in KBO. When you're seeing softer, finesse stuff and a lot of splitters, the maintenance and prep is totally different than what goes into hitting 93+...after all, the average FB velo is 89 out there. Giants aren't shelling out $100M+ if the velocity aspect was a concern and of course they are aware of the numbers. Super fascinating discussion though and I can't wait to see how it shakes out too! Thank you for watching and for the comment! - Aram
That is a kind way of putting it. To me it looks like many many of the loopy/hitched swings that come from JBA/KBA. Best case scenario he will take 2yrs to adjust... his ankle injury sapped his power & speed, his numbers were on the decline in Asia, now he comes to the US to rehab/learn? Unless he is Ichiro-level talent, I fear that we are looking at a .230 MLB hitter with no power good defense and doesn't steal bases anymore. That's before the ankle injury, not after. Don't forget the ballpark in SF, Oracle is unkind to lefties not named Bonds. I give him 10% chance to last 3/4yrs in the MLB, and a 3% chance of being a player that helps this team win and improve and become a true impact player. He has SCRUB written all over him, and I fear that Boras has absolutely SOAKED the SF organization yet again. I hope I'm wrong but geeze... I think he's going to stink, and stink bad. Tsioshi Shinjo, anyone?
no hitters find 100mph ball easy to hit on the sweet spot. I think it all comes down to how quality his BASEBALL GENE he was born with. And JH Lee was bone with the TOP NOTCH kind. Besides he is hard working.
@creamskimming100 Yeah... that's why I said that . They average around 97mph which are really good for their top pitchers 🤭❤️ . But average for top hitters in mlb is 99mph which is higher
Based on the thumbnail, “will he be the next batting champion.” Probably not because Luis Arraez is in the NL so. If Arraez is healthy he’s basically winning it every year.
Comon he only won twice, you can't treat him like Tony Gwynn. Even out of those two, one of them he hit .316 which would not win a batting title 90% of the time.
@@Tom0000 In today's game that prioritizes power, slugging and OPS instead of average, there's a good chance he can win some more if he's uncontested. However Lee might have a word with that
Having watched him play for years, I have some reservations. Before, I get to that, I do agree with your assessment on his hitting ability though if you look at his slash line against 93mph or higher fastballs it's not pretty. It's 226/273/419 since his debut in 2017 to 2022 season (doesn't include 2023 season). Obviously banking on the fact that he's just 25 and will improve immensely in the future. Now back to my reservations, like you mentioned at 6:15, he is in my opinion an average to below average defensive centerfielder. Having been a middle infielder his entire amateur career and only moved out to the outfield when he turned pro could be the main reason. He doesn't recognise the tragectory of the ball quick enough and has poor first step which leads to bad route efficiency. He masks all these deficiencies with great athleticism and high baseball IQ.
On the flip side, I do believe he can be a all-star level player as he is just 25 and a fierce competitor. He may not show it but he has a fire in his belly and relishes challenges and isn't one to be intimidated by anything. While at this point in time it sure looks like an overpay for the Giants, Lee will be good enough to opt out after yr 4 and test the market again as a fully fledged major league free agent.
@@burnslate These are excellent points and thank you for watching! The velocity thing was something I picked up, but I also think it's difficult to properly assess his ability to hit 93+ when he is seeing it so few and far between. Considering his feel for the barrel and almost no wasted movement, I'd imagine he should be able to adjust once he sees 93+ basically every day (saw a glimpse of this in WBC. As for the defense, I'm with you in regards to it being a mixed bag, but I do think working with an MLB staff could really help him turn into an above average glove in center. He has shown the comfort tracking and has the awareness as well as speed. Should be fun to see how things shake out! - Aram
@@laartwork I think it will be a bit of a learning process the first year or two. it at least fits with the giants gameplan I don't think they plan on being competitive in the west for a little bit.
Great work! I've studied hitting now sixty years. Until this " Bruce " Lee, quick striking lefty, proves it, SF, is $150 in the hole. Given hes, unproven its the biggest risk sf, has taken since Barry Zito. I see his skill set adapting. Singles, only is said to be less valuable than hitters that are powerful, regardless of the whiffs. All debatable. In sf, power fades. Singles are MoRe likely, due to thick, soft, lush grass, on soft sandy loam, few pebbles, A thin soil. left side start, fast runner, can thrive at oracle. Cavernous gaps. This can all work against most hitters. Fly balls are stunted. right field wall is alcatraz! Night games may as well be in Fairbanks! Day games are crackling hot like august in bakersfield, its only 110 daily but "feels like 120" phoenix got jack on em!!!!! If he wants to have a 400 OBP, with the shift outlawed, its not the FB he's adjusting to, its wipe out sliders!! We all played this game, we all have the same issue, slider change splitter. Hitters world, won't be the FB, he is going to adjust, will take two seasons, no one is that patient esp not giants fans, times up in sf!!!
Shorten the swing reduce the sweeping motion, shorten the windup cock and calm the foot, no more high backswing. I'd have him watching carew, not ichiro. Studying the tells, from every pitcher he's going to face, ahead of time, preparing him for how mlb, will pitch him, will mean early success, that's going to fade after his honeymoon and all bets are off as adjustments keep after his repertoire until exhausted, where his BA settles in, remains a huge reason to watch SF giants games, but its just not enough to move the needle.
His hideous loopy/long swing has holes galore that MLB pitchers will exploit. Not to mention he lost his speed/power to the ankle injury. No way he improves moving forward, and no way his game translates to the MLB with any impact at all. He is projected to bat around .230 with less then 10HR and less then 10SB. Basically zero improvements over the current SFGs OF roster. Below average midling player paid a kings ransom for a poorly planned PR stunt to deflect from the Giants mounting embarrassment. I have a feeling that the peak of his SFGs career was that pathetic press conference when he signed. Please tell me about his 6HR last year
Are we not gonna talk about the fact that Lee went 1-2 against Darvish and 2-3 against Yamamoto at WBC.
Icing on the cake, (think we had that video in there) great AB against Imanaga as well.
With a double hitting the wall against Yamamoto.
@@blueman2369 I believe Yamamoto throws average mid 90s. In my humble opinion MLB faster pitches will provide the power all Lee needs to do is what he does best make contact.
Love this guy. Speed and good eye at the plate. He will hit over .300 and steal 30 bases. He doesn’t have a loop in his swing like one guy mentioned.
Wow what an amazing analysis. Thank you. I watched it three times!
Thank you so much for watching (3x!) and the kind words!
Seriously. That was one of the most analytical analyses that I've ever watched. It was brilliant.
If he's able to adapt quickly to MLB level pitcher's off-speed/breaking pitches, he's going to be one of the more exciting rookie players this season and this is one hell of a rookie class. He just looks like a technician up there, no wasted movement, just precise. Idk i just have a good feeling about the kid. I had the 12th and final pick in my fantasy league's rookie draft and I couldn't believe he dropped to me.
I saw his highlights and his defense will translate immediately. I think he will surprise with his batting average and power.
i feel like we'll see his swing change a lot over the first two years. If i remember correctly shohei had a similar swing to lee but it changed a bit. Im a dodgers fan but I'm so hyped to see what he can do!
I hope he keeps the same swing. It's so unique, it's fun to see something so different in a league where most hitters share a similar-looking swing.
If there are Korean subtitles, it will get a lot more views for sure.
Great suggestion!
because KBO measures velocity in PTS, it is output more than 2 miles slower than MLB's measured velocity. Pitchers clocked at 90-93 mph in KBO were clocked at 95-96 mph in Seoul Series games.
Therefore, KBO's average velocity would be approximately 90-95 mph. But he always had more talent than that.
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I think the narrative that Lee cannot hit major league pitching is way over blown. He may surprise some people. I'm not saying he's going to hit .325 with 40 doubles and 130 hits in his rookie season. That would be amazing if he did though. Everybody keeps pointing out that KBO pitching is 85-92 mph and MLB pitching is 93+ and that he can't hit a Major League Fastball. As a Giants fan I am excited to find out what he has done in the off season to get himself ready for Major League camp. As others have pointed out watch his at bats in the WBC and tell me he can't hit a Major League Fastball.
Yeah like others here already mentioned...his numbers against mid 90's heat are concerning. Also, I thought I read somewhere that he is mostly a ground ball hitter. Do you have the stats on that? Anyway, I REALLY want this guy to succeed because I'm a Giants fan. If he ends up with Ha-seong Kim type numbers I guess I can't be upset. Padres fans love that guy.
anything above 95-96mph is pretty rare in the kbo, so he'll definitely struggle right out of the gate just like Ha-Seong Kim did in 2021. But, it is quite obvious (well at least to us Korean fans) that Lee is way more talented than Ha-Seong Kim in terms of batting skills. I feel like Lee's gonna make adjustments much quicker than Kim did and will start producing good numbers after two or three months into the season.
No doubt! Honestly not overly concerned about the 93+ challenges. Ha-Seong Kim had BRUTAL numbers against velocity in KBO. When you're seeing softer, finesse stuff and a lot of splitters, the maintenance and prep is totally different than what goes into hitting 93+...after all, the average FB velo is 89 out there. Giants aren't shelling out $100M+ if the velocity aspect was a concern and of course they are aware of the numbers.
Super fascinating discussion though and I can't wait to see how it shakes out too! Thank you for watching and for the comment! - Aram
Great breakdown!
First time watching this. Thank you.
Hit the ball into triples alley, that's the plan!
Yeah. This guy is going to hit a lot of doubles and triples, not too many homers.
The next Ichiro.
Lee will lead the league in BA
This young kid has a pretty interesting batting mechanism.
Similar to Ichiro, but not quite as pronounced
That is a kind way of putting it. To me it looks like many many of the loopy/hitched swings that come from JBA/KBA. Best case scenario he will take 2yrs to adjust... his ankle injury sapped his power & speed, his numbers were on the decline in Asia, now he comes to the US to rehab/learn? Unless he is Ichiro-level talent, I fear that we are looking at a .230 MLB hitter with no power good defense and doesn't steal bases anymore. That's before the ankle injury, not after. Don't forget the ballpark in SF, Oracle is unkind to lefties not named Bonds. I give him 10% chance to last 3/4yrs in the MLB, and a 3% chance of being a player that helps this team win and improve and become a true impact player. He has SCRUB written all over him, and I fear that Boras has absolutely SOAKED the SF organization yet again. I hope I'm wrong but geeze... I think he's going to stink, and stink bad. Tsioshi Shinjo, anyone?
Love this guy. Speed and good eye at the plate. He will hit over .300 and steal 30 bases. The doubters can write me later to say they are sorry
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How many 100mph fastball do u think he saw in th kbo
KBO has no 100mph 😂 but he can really hit well , it depends on the boy can do it like top hitters 😊
no hitters find 100mph ball easy to hit on the sweet spot. I think it all comes down to how quality his BASEBALL GENE he was born with. And JH Lee was bone with the TOP NOTCH kind. Besides he is hard working.
@@evanyong5871 Not average 100mph but a few pitchers can throw 100mph or more. Like Moon, Dong-joo.
@@evanyong5871 so Do not spread false facts.
@creamskimming100
Yeah... that's why I said that . They average around 97mph which are really good for their top pitchers 🤭❤️ . But average for top hitters in mlb is 99mph which is higher
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Based on the thumbnail, “will he be the next batting champion.” Probably not because Luis Arraez is in the NL so. If Arraez is healthy he’s basically winning it every year.
Comon he only won twice, you can't treat him like Tony Gwynn.
Even out of those two, one of them he hit .316 which would not win a batting title 90% of the time.
@@Tom0000 In today's game that prioritizes power, slugging and OPS instead of average, there's a good chance he can win some more if he's uncontested. However Lee might have a word with that
Having watched him play for years, I have some reservations. Before, I get to that, I do agree with your assessment on his hitting ability though if you look at his slash line against 93mph or higher fastballs it's not pretty. It's 226/273/419 since his debut in 2017 to 2022 season (doesn't include 2023 season). Obviously banking on the fact that he's just 25 and will improve immensely in the future.
Now back to my reservations, like you mentioned at 6:15, he is in my opinion an average to below average defensive centerfielder. Having been a middle infielder his entire amateur career and only moved out to the outfield when he turned pro could be the main reason. He doesn't recognise the tragectory of the ball quick enough and has poor first step which leads to bad route efficiency. He masks all these deficiencies with great athleticism and high baseball IQ.
On the flip side, I do believe he can be a all-star level player as he is just 25 and a fierce competitor. He may not show it but he has a fire in his belly and relishes challenges and isn't one to be intimidated by anything. While at this point in time it sure looks like an overpay for the Giants, Lee will be good enough to opt out after yr 4 and test the market again as a fully fledged major league free agent.
@@burnslate These are excellent points and thank you for watching! The velocity thing was something I picked up, but I also think it's difficult to properly assess his ability to hit 93+ when he is seeing it so few and far between. Considering his feel for the barrel and almost no wasted movement, I'd imagine he should be able to adjust once he sees 93+ basically every day (saw a glimpse of this in WBC.
As for the defense, I'm with you in regards to it being a mixed bag, but I do think working with an MLB staff could really help him turn into an above average glove in center. He has shown the comfort tracking and has the awareness as well as speed. Should be fun to see how things shake out! - Aram
For me it's the very long list of Korean league hitters who were not very good once they made the jump.
@@laartwork I think it will be a bit of a learning process the first year or two. it at least fits with the giants gameplan I don't think they plan on being competitive in the west for a little bit.
I don't agree with Lee Jung-hoo's outfield defense is bad. He was the most reliable outfielder in our team Heroes.
Great work! I've studied hitting now sixty years. Until this " Bruce " Lee, quick striking lefty, proves it, SF, is $150 in the hole. Given hes, unproven its the biggest risk sf, has taken since Barry Zito. I see his skill set adapting. Singles, only is said to be less valuable than hitters that are powerful, regardless of the whiffs. All debatable. In sf, power fades. Singles are MoRe likely, due to thick, soft, lush grass, on soft sandy loam, few pebbles, A thin soil. left side start, fast runner, can thrive at oracle. Cavernous gaps. This can all work against most hitters. Fly balls are stunted. right field wall is alcatraz! Night games may as well be in Fairbanks! Day games are crackling hot like august in bakersfield, its only 110 daily but "feels like 120" phoenix got jack on em!!!!! If he wants to have a 400 OBP, with the shift outlawed, its not the FB he's adjusting to, its wipe out sliders!! We all played this game, we all have the same issue, slider change splitter. Hitters world, won't be the FB, he is going to adjust, will take two seasons, no one is that patient esp not giants fans, times up in sf!!!
it's the way it is these days, teams have to pay premium if you they want toget good players
Shorten the swing reduce the sweeping motion, shorten the windup cock and calm the foot, no more high backswing. I'd have him watching carew, not ichiro. Studying the tells, from every pitcher he's going to face, ahead of time, preparing him for how mlb, will pitch him, will mean early success, that's going to fade after his honeymoon and all bets are off as adjustments keep after his repertoire until exhausted, where his BA settles in, remains a huge reason to watch SF giants games, but its just not enough to move the needle.
note that Korean league is a not at the same level as Japan, not to mention MLB
He noted that already (7:06)
@@koreancardboard ok apparently I didn’t watch till the end 😂
@@koreancardboard You're good!! Thank you
Socrates Brito is a star in the KBO
Good for him!
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Dude he can’t hit fastballs 😂
Didnt he go 3n4 vs Darvish and shinobu in the WBC learn before speaking. It helps people not looking dumb. for real.
Just hating for the sake of hating.
His hideous loopy/long swing has holes galore that MLB pitchers will exploit. Not to mention he lost his speed/power to the ankle injury. No way he improves moving forward, and no way his game translates to the MLB with any impact at all. He is projected to bat around .230 with less then 10HR and less then 10SB. Basically zero improvements over the current SFGs OF roster. Below average midling player paid a kings ransom for a poorly planned PR stunt to deflect from the Giants mounting embarrassment. I have a feeling that the peak of his SFGs career was that pathetic press conference when he signed. Please tell me about his 6HR last year