@@astroboirap his father is more of a waste of skin. Uses America to become what he is today. Gets rich and becomes a CCP shill. Dudes a clown simping for commies
@@astroboirap There's something genuinely funny about you saying that partially racist statement while having a nickname that clearly comes from one of the single most important "yellow skin"-made animation projects of all time. Granted you went for Astro Boy and not Mighty Atom, but still. Like not even in a mean-spirited way, the contrast actually just made my day. XD Edit: Aww, the comment was deleted. A shame! I understand, though. 😋
@@pablodelsegundo9502 yeah he was set up for failure alright never having to work a day in his life and having enough wealth for even the next generation to do the same however will he cope?!!
i do too. my dad is a successful person (real estate, data analytics, govt contracts relating to toll management) but not famous. he did let me have a normal childhood but when i was little he would get me whatever i wanted. i was a spoiled asshole. i still hate myself for being as such but as my sister was born the sudden lack of attention, that spoiled thing in me just vanished. we also had to move to less posher area because my dad's new office but was in the same city. the place was definitely safe but it wasnt fancy. my parents would let me get into trouble and fend for myself. i felt horrible. i was in 7th. 7TH!!. when i just gave up. gave up. totally, my grades dropped and again had to face the consequences for that but i did not go back to what i was. now when i got into highschool, my father did start spending alot more time with me especially during covid. now i am a better person. ambitious. i do want to do stuff and take risks in life. i want to kind of be like him. but man, thank god i went through shit. even though money was never a problem, fending of for myself did teach me a lot. more so on how to react to such situation, i now do well in a high stress environment and do not break. though i am still lonely, i know what to do in my life, lots to fix too, i am overweight, and some more i will be obese type 1. i stopped gaining weight. i mean i will shutup now lol, never drained my thoughts so hard in my life. i feel better ig. thank you and sorry for putting this out there. also i apologize for my grammar, my thoughts were just racing through. oh man. and do not feel sorry for me, there is a good chance i probably still suffered less than what most of you do on a daily basis.
Jackie Chan didn't even want his son to be like him (an actor). Did you watch the video? He stated that he wanted him to become a doctor, engineer or something like that.
@Shisui but even when he did "take accountability," he immediately disowned his son by refusing to help him out of a mess that even Jackie blamed on his own poor parenting. He didn't even visit him in Hong Kong prison or attend the trial. So he clearly didn't learn a lesson about actually parenting. He's still not being a parent.
A neglectful dad is worse than an absent one. Not knowing your dad is hard but knowing him and seeing that he doesn’t care about you at all is even harder. 2 weeks a year. That’s torture to a child.
There's a bit of irony in this whole thing. Jackie's work ethics is why he has become so successful, but it's also a factor as to why Jaycee grew up the way he did. He was too busy doing his own thing and didn't give the proper time and guidance to his own son.
@kevinmorrice I said it was a factor, never said it was the sole reason why Jaycee became a "failure". Also being spoiled wouldn't be such an issue if Jackie was around to teach him about the value of money and hard work.
Jesus. Never knew that Jackie Chan had a son, let alone the life he had to live. Sunny is the only RUclipsr I can watch do an entire presentation about a person I know nothing about
@Lucifer Morningstar at this point, i have started to think that even these people are bots due to the excessive comments if u are human and reading this, bots are emotionless and dont read your replies
@@minafrota6124 I thought he never recognized her as a daughter due to his shame from having a mistress though? And she ended up living in poverty with no real father
I dont think Jackie realizes that alot of this falls on him for not being a parent. Speaking from experience, not having your parents be present in your life, in emotional or physical capacity, really does a number on kids/teens. As a "young" adult I've come to understand why my parents weren't the best, but it doesn't lessen the impact of not having available parents in a period of massive brain developers. It seems, I went the route of becoming an adult while being a child, while Jaycee went the route of angst and brooding. Which neither are good, but one is easier to recover a broken/breaking relationship from than the other. I'm glad to see they are atleast trying to make things better between each other.
It's 100% his fault and disowning your child over long debunked myths about cannabis or archaic laws is absolutely despicable in my opinion. Anything short of hurting a child and I will always have my kid's back!
@@theriffwriter2194 as a daily weed smoker i will confidently say we do not have enough research to show there aren't long term affects of weed use. we already know rn that it does in fact impact your memory over extended use.
What you forgot mentioning here is Jackie Chan also cheated a lot on his wife. Jaycee said in his interview that "I saw my mom crying secretly in her washroom, but she did not choose to divorce him and endured the fragile marriage because she wanted to raise me to be a better person." I feel bad for Jaycee and his mother. Of course, she has her part in his son's upbringing, but you gotta admit that she was also a victim of Jackie Chan's selfishness.
In asia, it’s all about saving face although it’s good he took responsibility for his son, but JC has had massive issues with alcohol, which is a drug. Also pot, coke/crack, and meth are all tame drugs.
Yeah, poor multi millionaire wife having it to choose between staying with Jackie who sleeps around sometimes probably because he doesn't get enough, or having to leave the money. Poor poor lady.
@@thedutchest so because she is a wife of a multi millionaire, she deserves domestic verbal abuse, multiple cheatings and so on? you're the type who considers the financial factor is above all of human issues. A wife of multimillionaire or not, no one deserves that.
@@thedutchestjust because you are rich, doesn't make you entitled to be an ass. If you really didn't like that women, don't marry her, don't have kids with her, stay away from her. Go marry some other gold digger 30 years younger than you.
Hot take: If Jackie Chan only interacted with his son for two weeks out of every year, not only does he have no right to complain about how he turned out, but it's also his fault. He clearly had enough money to turn down a few movies, he could have made time to raise his son right, he could have implemented the discipline he constantly talked about, but he didn't.
@@pixelman457 research shows kids without a father figure are much more likely to have mental problems, get into drugs or commit crimes. Jackie not being there really did a number on Jaycee's emotional development as a child
Dude... where I am from kids get sent to boarding school as young as 8. They get to see their parents for 4 weeks in a year during holidays. Other holidays they could be with their grand parents, aunties etc. As well as many situations where the father works far away and only sees the family like once in 2 years. It is not uncommon...
Not to say he didn't have. But Jaycee had a lot of time and resource to turn his life around. An absentee father is a factor, but there are also other factors. At the end of the day, Jaycee was an adult when he got caught with drugs in his father's apartment. Him being there says as much as him having the drugs and providing a place for his friends to do drugs.
Jaycee was doomed from the start. You couldn’t possibly expect him to live up to such a name like Jackie Chan. This is absolutely heartbreaking he might not have faced the same struggles as Jackie Chan but he’s definitely faced his own struggles I can’t imagine constantly being made to feel as though you’re not enough bc of who your father is. He didn’t ask for any of that and such a big hassle made over marijuana? They’re lucky he wasn’t dabbling in much harder drugs. This is all so sad. I wish the man the best.
Yea I don't really have any sympathy. There's "not living up to your famous father's legacy" and then there's "not even making it through 1 year of college, and getting arrested and permanently tarnishing your and your families legacy". There's a WORLD of difference between the two, you can't pretend they're the same... Also yea - in other countries marijuana is VERY illegal - that's the whole reason we had to trade war criminals for one of our basketball players. There are different laws in different countries, and I'm sure he knew the law of the land he has citizenship in...
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 permanently tarnishing your families legacy? You think people watch Rush Hour and think oh man I can’t watch this anymore Jackie Chans son smoked weed 😫😫😂😂😂 that’s such a stupid stance. Also, college isn’t for everyone. He coulda been extremely stressed and under a lot of pressure I think that could break a person.
@@chimpodyssey no but he has a point no? He was provided with everything you will ever need to be successful from birth(besides some affection maybe) and still managed to "fail", and people blame it entirely on Jackie somehow
He is one of those parents who don't parent and then expects their child to somehow be successful on their own. Before you ask if your child has achieved enough, you should first reflect on whether or not you've done enough.
@@rachelxu8229why Rachel,why Rachel do you react that way? Look at you and all your friends, we live in a softened age. It's not rocket science to be respectful and wirk hard at school or work and not hang around losers/bad influences. A lot of life is self raised. You think Jacky had his parents around? He was raised by an orphanage. Meanwhile his son could have had the best teachers and tutors. I don't think Jacky is a bad guy or parent as much as it's a loser and disrespectful generation really. It became cool to be lazy or not work hard in school or such especially in North America so really he just went w the crowd lol
From my understanding, Jackie's biggest issue was naively assuming that just because he went thru hardships and came out on top, that his own son would end up the same as well. But everyone reacts to trials and tribulations differently, and what Jaycee ultimately needed from the looks of it, was just a father who was around alot more
Well tbh you can't blame Jackie. It's perfectly reasonable to think that what worked for you would also work for your own son. It's all Jackie knew when growing up, so naturally he would want to carry on the tradition, seeing that it worked for him as a child
@@zionbaptiste1292 that would be his failure. In the end, he doesn't have a true happy family. He denied his daughter and didnt try to see in his son perspective. But I bet he doesn't really care, just like most alpha male, families r just an another adornment to their successes.
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 what happen to his daughter, and he is pretty bad for having an affair resulting in a child too but he is still a great actor my father really looked like him
@@nabie7886 shes a very sad case. Despite having a super famous and rich father, jackie said he didnt recognised her as his. Shes born from another woman with Jackie but they had a fight I think so he cut off everything related to her. So, the daughter now lives a poor mans life.
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 Speaking of which, wasn't his daughter groomed by her spouse? Cause if so, why are people bashing the daughter and not the predator she married????
Honestly the fact that this kid doesn’t blame it on his dad speaks a lot to his character. In his memoir Jackie also mentions excessive drinking, infidelity and even abusing Jaycee when he was a toddler. Kid was spoiled rotten but can anyone really blame him for how he ended up? Also Jackie is 0/2 now which makes you think who’s really at fault here
The fact that Jackie blamed his son's issues on his wife and providing for his son and not on the fact that he was absent aa a father is really sad and shows a lack of true reflection and self- awareness. He was upset that his son lacked discipline but he wasn't around to teach it to him.
you wanted JACKIE to work hard, provide for his family AAANNNDDDD spend time with them too. Typical wife demands now a days if you ask me. they want to you to work for 15 hours a day, go for shopping with them, be present there for all events like food etc. and spend quality time of daily at least 2 hours with their children. and they do not want to know how many hours are there in one day.
A spoiled child will grow up to be an awful adult. His mother bought him everything he could have wanted instead of givig him what he needed, that being some kind of activity that instilled some form of virtue/discipline into his life.
@@TheRealPaul_Morphy Nah, you can't run defense for Jackie Chan here when we know he was an absentee father. If Jackie Chan is so disappointed in how his son was raised, maybe he should've been there for that process.
I think that if the parent can give/teach their children self-confidence, self worth and love, the kids can grow up very well adjusted. Sometimes, the kids just don't get that kind of support from their celebrity parents. 🙁
@@blaineherrington9502 but still what if they genuinely want to have their own path and if they fail, they'll just be known as that one celebrity's kid
I actually feel sorry for Jaycee. While he had almost everything he needed from the start, the one thing he didn’t have was a strong connection to his father and the lessons that come with it. Jackie enabled his son and wondered why hard work was such a foreign concept to Jaycee.
He had everything he needed physically, but nothing he needed emotionally or role model wise. Just cause you aren’t poor doesn’t mean that bad parents can’t still screw up your childhood.
I have respect for the fact that Jaycee is still moving forward with his projects despite the crappy hands he's been constantly being dealt, the countless failures he's experienced and always being compared to his father. Jaycee is still going after an insane amount of scrutiny. Though he has his flaws, the guy has one hell of a backbone.
@@KyokujiFGC His dad does that to save his own face. Not so much his son. Jackie pretty much cares about his own image above everything else. Plus Jackie doesn't even do any parenting. What did you expect Jaycee would turn up when he lacked a proper role model and is constantly in the press' sights?
@@zaberfang I don't see how that would set someone up for success. Unless you mean successfully get harassed and mocked online just because your parent is a billionaire and all billionaires must be greedy and corrupt narcissistic people in the public's eyes.
@@zaberfang i think you are confusing money with success. They money(his father's) you are speaking of, yes surely it provided his a better lifestyle, comfort and even financial stability but it didn't teach him morals, ethics and discipline needed to become successful. You either learn that from a mentor (which he never had around) or from hard work (which he never needed to do because of his father's money) on top of that he'd never be able to value or respect his father's money because his father was never there and yet still he had to live under his father's shadow for the rest of his life. I can only imagine how much he hated or didn't care about his father and his money. He was doomed to be at this position he's in right now.
He doesn't seem like such a bad kid. Just spoiled, which wasn't exactly his fault. The pressure of living up to being a model son of one of the most well-known people in China is something I can't imagine.
I met Jaycee at a dinner in 2007 when I was a kid. He was very kind and he had a "chill vibe" to him. I hope he is well and happy; it's not easy to be Jackie Chan's son.
Jackie's humility becomes hubris. He doesnt realize that his belief of himself doing the "normal amount of work" or something "anyone can do" just isn't ordinary. He's forced his son to live in his shadow without ever giving him the lessons he learned growing up. You can't expect everyone to be just like you.
Wow, I feel really bad for Jaycee. It's clear Jackie Chan went through a lot growing up that left him with a very strong discipline, however I don't think that level of dedication can be expected of everyone. I'm sure there were also many who went through what Jackie Chan did, who did not become so successful and famous. I also can't imagine working such long, hard, demanding hours while never seeing my family or developing serious health problems because of it. And I'm not sure that Jaycee becoming a doctor or engineer would have kept him around his family more, I know many doctors and engineers who are basically on-call and at their jobs 24/7. Also as an American, I thought the backlash against drugs in our country was bad ... yikes.
Doctors and engineers are rarely on call - As an engineer I don't know any people who are required to work 40+ hours a week. Everyone that does makes overtime
You can't blame it all on the parents though. I know people who were spoilt rotten when they were kids, but they still turned out to be nice people with successful careers. So some of it must boil down to personality, which you can't blame Jackie for.
@@squodge Oh you can't, and I didn't mean to imply it's all Jackie's fault. It just seems like the two always had a shaky relationship which I think really sucks and I know how it feels to have a parent that expects perfection from you. I see a lot of people in the comments calling Jaycee spoiled, etc. but it does seem as though he tried to branch out into a career he felt passionate about (making music) so I think it is kind of unfair to call him lazy and say he hasn't tried to make something of himself (the comments from Jackie about Jaycee being lazy for going to bed at 9pm made me cringe a little because I'm not always able to stay up late myself as a working adult). Just because his music didn't become popular doesn't mean he didn't work hard on it, and as an artist myself I know how crushing it is to see your work flounder/fail on its own without biting commentary in the background from the parent who was never there. I am kind of curious about going and watching some of the films Jaycee was in myself to see how he did with the acting, that also doesn't seem to have been successful BUT I wonder if that was because he was a bad actor, or if it's because he was expected to be the next Jackie Chan? Part of me is curious, if he worked on a project using a penname and kept his personal identity a secret would he have a better chance at succeeding in his own right? Or is his art really just that bad?
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 I've known doctors who have to work very very long shifts, and often aren't available for a lot of family events and stuff. Doesn't mean they are never available, but they do work a lot. Of course it probably depends on what kind of doctor you are, and whether or not you live in a crowded city like I did (we had a shortage back where I used to live). I also have an Uncle who is an engineer, and he makes a ton of money but he's constantly working or travelling, oftentimes to other countries. Growing up more often than not when I visited or chatted with my Aunt or cousin it'd be "Oh it's just going to be us at dinner, Uncle is in Japan doing work for his company so he's not going to be back for a while." or "He's not going to be here today, he's working until x o'clock and then he's going golfing to discuss business." Of course, I'm sure he also probably did a lot of management and stuff, but he worked a LOT. He could afford a nice big house, all sort of cool toys like a vintage car and his own customized garage, a lavish garden, etc. But he was almost never home to actually enjoy any of it.
How can Jackie be upset at his son's lifestyle when he did nothing to educate him better? Hell, he was barely around him. Jaycee wasn't naturally lazy; he needed to be taught or incentivized to work. Some wealthy and successful people refuse to spoil their kids for that reason alone. And for a proud member of the Chinese Communist Party, which preaches the abolition of private property, he seemed pretty comfortable letting his family live a lavish lifestyle in America.
Would be very cool if parents didn't abandon their children but that's a impossible thing to hope for. Fathers are important but I know I will never have the luxury of having one
I feel more bad for Jaycee than Jackie. The burden of having a legendary father is not easy because no matter what you do is not enough. A public humiliation by your own dad is the most heart breakening thing that one can ever ever imagine.
And this is why the saying - no matter how good at you think you are at something, an Asian will beat you at it- exist. Westerners prioritise comfort over resilience and discipline. Expect everything to handed down, and things to be easy. When they see someone else who work twice as hard to beat them at their own game, they get mad and yell for the refugees and immigrants to 'go back to your country'.
@Martha a frog living in a well, thinks the sky is round and only slightly bigger than the moon. Just because you only consume western media, doesn't mean he isn't famous. Maybe not to you, but certainly to millions of asian people across the continent.
Saying you take "full responsibility" and actually doing it are two different things but at least it's a step in the right direction on Jackie's part to be a better parent to his son now. 👏 Also, respect to Jaycee for becoming more responsible and trying to mend his relationship with his dad instead of just resenting him till the end of time. He's definitely not a failure because self-destruction would have been the easier option.
He disowned his son. I don't think he's taking any steps to be a better parent. His apology was for embarrassing the Chinese government more than failing his son, at least in my opinion. Gotta lick the boot that's standing on his throat.
Jaycee sounds like he was a normal teenager and Jackie had extremely high expectations of him. I think this attitude of always being disappointed in your son was a bigger problem than the comfortable upbringing Jackie provided
This is extremely sad but also one of the most interesting stories that shows the cultural concept of honor, and how vital even the slightest of mistakes are to society. It’s really messed up…
This wasn’t a slight error. The son of the anti-drug ambassador over a billion people was holding drug parties in the anti-drug ambassadors house. This in a country where normal people go to jail for having much less drugs in their possession. And it didn’t just embarrass Jackie Chan, it put his and his wife’s liberty at risk because it was their house. And in China, they’re quick to confiscate rich criminals wealth too. This nepo baby put every single thing Jackie Chan has worked for at risk. Everything! And in any case, America should use some honor culture. A country where two huge politicians have kids who ended up with teen pregnancies but still try to ban sex education.
@@MostGenericUser Yep, in the US rich parents use their connections to protect their spoiled brats while in China they let them deal with the consequences of their own actions...What a sad country amIright?
He didn't seems so "honorable" when he cheated on his wife multiple times, having a daughter with a mistress and disowned that daughter though. Is this honor thing selective? Only apply to other people but not him? Because I have a very difficult time understand how someone like Jakie Chan has any business talking about "honor".
I remember watching a documentary about Jackie Chan in the early 90s where he already talked about being an absent father. He completely failed his son and is unfortunately not the nice guy we all know and love from his movies.
To put things into perspective for you, Goku from Dragon Ball is considered an absent father in the west for hardly ever being around, while in Asia his son Gohan is considered spoiled for the time Goku spent with him.
Jaycee hardly ever saw his father, and when he did, Jackie abused him horrifically (as admitted by Jackie himself). That coupled with his mother not knowing how to cope with her absent husband any other way than spoiling Jaycee materially… I just feel so bad for him. Money means nothing when you treat someone so poorly.
@@justachillfridge1075 Jackie admitted to physical and emotional abuse. Jackie also cheated on his wife (Jaycee’s mother) and abandoned the daughter he had with his mistress. Jackie’s daughter states that she at one point lived in poverty because Jackie refused to acknowledge her existence.
Just coz Jackie had a rough childhood doesn't mean his son should be suffering too when he is a son of a multimillionaire this is something i really didn't expected from Jackie!!!
Jackie says so many honorable things that I respect… because I learned them from my father. It was not his job to tell these things to the media for our benefit. It was his job to teach these things to his son. He took responsibility and said as much, but never invested in his relationship with the kid. That is pretty hurtful and tarnishes the things I admire about him.
I never really got why people respect him (Jackie Chan) so much. He’s a B list actor at best. Plus there is this whole primitive honor shame culture he’s holding on to.
@@thedukeofchutney468 The western world fails to understand is that Jackie Chan is actually a complete cockhead. Ask a Hong Konger how they feel about their most famous entertainment export, they'll tell you.
@@thedukeofchutney468 Especially dumb when in movies like Shanghai Noon the central theme is how outdated those notions of honor really are and how they compel otherwise intelligent people to do stupid things.
@@thedukeofchutney468 Jackie Chan is part of the synagogue of pedophilia in Hollywood. They made him who he is today. No reason to respect any celebrity, they’re all dirty. The sooner you see this the better.
I, like everyone else felt really bad for Jaycee, and I won't lie, nearly tore up hearing about his father wanting little to do with him during the scandal. He didn't seem bad, spoiled perhaps, but he admitted to his own faults too. Plus his lire couldn't be easy with that extremely high expectation set upon him.
The thing I'm curious about and can't help but wonder if Jackie is thinking about it is - How is Jackie gonna feel when he is on his deathbed? Will he be full of regret? I love Jackie as an actor, and grew up on him, but with his rigorous schedule, he probably wasn't much of a father figure.
It's always heartbreaking to see your childhood hero's true personality and failures as a human. Reading through the comments made me feel even more bad about how Jackie neglected his children.
This story is actually making me angry, perhaps due to my connections with my own Asian family. Thinking discipline, punishment, and parental distance is how you raise is a good kid, and then blaming said kid and abandoning them when they don't turn out how you want them! Proper child rearing needs a balance of both discipline and love, and no spoiling a child doesn't count as love! A proper parent needs to be there for there child, developing a connection and gently yet firmly guiding them through life.
Jackie missed the ultimate lesson from his teacher, that you have to give the child your time, attention, effort and patience. When you care about a thing or a person, that is what you do. The results don't just magic out of thin air. It takes a lot of dedication. If you want that level of discipline for your child, you either have to sacrifice your own life's ambition to get it done or find/pay someone else to do it for you. Otherwise, don't complain.
That’s the lesson he learnt in hindsight. Jackie now understands the torture he went through was actually helping built his character, rather than be given everything in life. But who can blame him. He wants his son to have everything he couldn’t have when he was young… he only knew afterwards this kind of upbringing was wrong but it’s already too late. His son was already molded into the person he is now.
Jackie’s master was abusive. He’d beat the kids personally. When Jackie was sick one day and the nurse told the Master and he got upset. He asked Jackie “How are you feeling?” When Jackie said he was sick the Master told him to do a thousand kicks in front of the students. After he was done and about to pass out the teacher asked if he was still sick and Jackie said yes. He had to do a thousand more kicks and at this point his whole body was about to collapse. The Master asked if he was still sick and Jackie said no. This isn’t even the worst of it. Jackie’s Master never taught him how to be a father I don’t know where you got that from.
I heard about Jackie Chan’s son and his arrest. He would’ve got a longer sentence or the death penalty if he wasn’t the son of a famous celebrity. I hope where he’s at he’s doing well and making something for himself.
Before the amendment you won't get the death penalty for having such amount of drugs like Jaycee does, but he'll spend probably 10 to 20 years in prison if he wasn't Jackie's son, after the amendment, which is now, having 50g of drugs can get you the death penalty.
Jackie Chan had a daughter outside of wedlock, with a mistress. The mistress, in this case, left to raise her daughter away from all the drama of being the child of a celebrity's affair and refused to have anything to do with Jackie. Later on, once things calmed down, she reached out and Jackie supported them financially, although their relationship never developed. His daughter was groomed by a much older english teacher from Canada, Andi Autumn, who later became an influencer. This teacher eventually convinced her to come to Canada to marry her, which both Jackie and her mother were extremely opposed to and forbid her from doing. She felt that it was unfair that BOTH her parents didn't allow her to go to a foreign country to marry a much older woman, and ran away to Canada. There, she and Andi Autumn married without the blessing of her parents, naturally, and once started to talk all sorts of shit on social media about Jackie Chan. Her mother and Jackie repeatedly tried to get her to come back to China, until eventually they cut her off financially. She is still there, with her spouse, as far as I know. Jackie Chan is not a good parent, and he was not a good husband either, but the whole situation with his dauther is not nearly as one sided as the media and many people who only read headlines seem to make it out to be.
Can relate this to my own life. Growing up in my father’s shadow with him being a Jackie Chan in his own careers. Never having to worry about tomorrow and then suddenly taking that away from me when my father left and for my parents to expect me to just figure out life on my own. Even tho my dad still financially supports me it still isn’t enough. No money could amount to just spending time with me and teaching my life lessons that would help me grow. Now I am lost with no direction in life. Not knowing what I want to do. Never had the emotional and genuine support from both of my parents. They only told me to do good in school but never any life lessons.
i lost my dad when i was a teen, i think you can still have life lessons from other people around you, and from life itself. i understand feeling parentless, but you’re not supposed to be clueless either bc they’re not around. wish you well, good luck
This really makes me reconsider how much I like Jackie Chan, an absent father who judges his son for his mistakes and doesn’t seem concerned or attempt to help in the slightest. Jackie is to blame for the majority of his sons faults and him not helping shows the ego he wants to protect.
i dont think its all that black and white. personally i dont think there is anyone to blame in any situation because there are so many factors to everything. now to be clear i am in no way excusing jackies abuse and saying it wasnt his fault he abused his son but what i am saying is there is most likely at least 1 reason for it that was out of his control. that abuse that jackie chan has been doing to his son couldve also come from his father who then came from the fathers father to the fathers father father and so on. once again definitely no excuses to jackie hes definitely a piece of shit but all i wanted to point out was there was a reason for this that was out of his control
@@tazmania200000 That's not what was said, rather "supports the death penalty for serious charges". Also Americans can't seem to comprehend that there's countries other than here; China is VERY different, especially if you're a famous celebrity like Jackie. Smoking marijuana or even bad mouthing the president will get you kicked out of the country or worse
I really hope he finds success. Its really hipocritical of jakie to spend so little time with his son and then be angry if he does not turn out perfect
There's "not turning out perfect" then there's "convicted criminal and college dropout". His son was a fuckup, "not perfect" is significantly understating things
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Could be worse, he could've been some demented individual that killed people or some hard drug dealer, there are cases of neglected rich children that end up doing heinous crimes. And maybe he is a fuckup, but isn't it the duty of a parent to help guide and nurture you children into becoming a disciplined and well mannered individual? I'm not saying it's all Jackie Chan's fault but him blaming his son for everything is so blind in so many ways I don't know how some people can't see it. If his son is a fuckup, Jackie Chan is as much of a fuckup with those basic ass justifications.
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 He wasn't taught proper discipline by his parents, so of course he ended up a dropout; it's partly their own fault for raising him wrong. Also, doing weed shouldn't be a crime in the first place, that's just the law being shitty and criminalizing people who don't deserve it, so calling him a convicted criminal in a derogatory way as if he did something actually bad like rob or murder someone is just disingenuous.
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 a fuckup that could have been prevented if someone had spent more time with him, I wonder who could have.... perhaps the person who only spent 2 weeks per year with him when he was a child perhaps? Nah it can't be that having a father figure that constantly puts pressure on you, even indirectly, can cause immense stress, and it couldn't be that not having them around means not having someone they can ask for help in their time of need, could it?
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Having 100 grams of weed is not that bad. In other countries people smoke weed every day. He faced 6 months of jail on a public trail only because he was the son of a celebrity and they wanted to make an example out of him. and his own father threw him under the bus to protect his image
honestly the fact that jackie chan said about abuse that it is beneficial and then by neglecting his own son aka abuse blaming it on anything but that is insane.
@@DannyHsn it depends on what level of abuse If he broke something then yes sure but then forgive and they will learn there lesson But Jaycee chan did nothing wrong and still emotionally abused or child neglect and mental abusement Thats heavily wrong
what priviledged individuals will never realize is that a hard life really does have the tendency of shaping strong individuals, now im not talking about beating the living shit out of your kids or anything extreme but speaking from experience a cushy life can sometime create the worst people. Where do u think jackie got his insane work ethic from?
Man I feel bad for Jaycee. Growing up with a father who does nothing but put pressure on you to succeed, at what they choose and at the pace they expect, is incredibly demotivating. Don't even want to imagine what it's like when said father is Jackie freakin Chan.
It's really ironic to see Jackie disapproving of Jaycee going into 'showbiz'. I understand the part about his mam having lost Jackie to it, but you can't expect your kid to not pursue the same career path you did because, essentially, you did it first. To then disown him instead of not being understanding of Jaycee is pretty poor form from Jackie.
What the western world fails to understand is that Jackie Chan is actually a complete cockhead. Ask a Hong Konger how they feel about their most famous entertainment export, they'll tell you.
You must've missed the point. Jackie Chan did it all by himself with discipline, while his son just wants to ride on his coattails. Most young people want to be some kind of artist and celebrity as it is but with children of rich and famous there's a whole other level of nepotism and laziness. If he has no talent or charisma like his father there's no point. the thing about "disowning" was all about his drug scandal anyway, clearly he was supportive and trying to push him ahead with his connections before. I don't even get why any average joe would be in favor of nepotism.
Damn Jackie was ruthless. He barley raised his child being so absent, yet he abandons him and blames him for everything. Being rich is a curse and a blessing; strong relationships is what helps people develop. I am pretty sure the Chinese government had a lot to do with these decisions. They are brutal about drugs. People get death sentences without a trial. No freedom of thought or speech. It’s just heartbreaking. Tiananmen square did happen, I am pretty sure every Chinese citizen understands that.
@@robmarsh918 Etta Ng Chok-lam; he didn't disown her, it was a child out of wedlock back in the 90's so they're estranged, and they want nothing to do with each other. Knowing how terrible they treat drugs, you can assume how bad it was for the Chinese media to know that Jackie Chan had a secret affair.
This reflects more on Jackie chan than the son or mother. It is always sad when you learn that your hero is not actually a... well, a hero in real life.
It’s be interesting if you could also do a video about Jackie Chan’s daughter who he had w a mistress. She is basically disowned and never acknowledged by Jackie Chan, and is living a tragic life in Canada now.
This is bullshit. Jackie Chan had a daughter outside of wedlock, with a mistress. The mistress, in this case, left to raise her daughter away from all the drama of being the child of a celebrity's affair and refused to have anything to do with Jackie. Later on, once things calmed down, she reached out and Jackie supported them financially, although their relationship never developed. His daughter was groomed by a much older english teacher from Canada, Andi Autumn, who later became an influencer. This teacher eventually convinced her to come to Canada to marry her, which both Jackie and her mother were extremely opposed to and forbid her from doing. She felt that it was unfair that BOTH her parents didn't allow her to go to a foreign country to marry a much older woman, and ran away to Canada. There, she and Andi Autumn married without the blessing of her parents, naturally, and once started to talk all sorts of shit on social media about Jackie Chan. Her mother and Jackie repeatedly tried to get her to come back to China, until eventually they cut her off financially. She is still there, with her spouse, as far as I know. Jackie Chan is not a good parent, and he was not a good husband either, but the whole situation with his dauther is not nearly as one sided as the media and many people who only read headlines seem to make it out to be.
Sadly this is not limited to China, it's an unfortunate facet of conservative Asian culture, case in point: Goro Miyazaki. Son of the famous animator: Hayao Miyazaki, had an upbringing similar to Jaycee, he was mostly raised by is mother, as Hayao travelled the world looking for inspiration for anime, and spent long hours away from home animating his content, so when Goro came of age he was pressured by his family, and Studio Ghibli itself to follow in his father's path. Goro spend long hours of crunch time, learning to draw and animate, it has been rumoured he was verbally and physically chastised, as this is seen as character building by conservative Asians, bullying and hazing is par for the course. Although Goro had a career in landscaping, Hayao, Studio Ghibli and its fans pressured him into a career he did not want to pursue, he was a Miyazaki, and was expected to succeed Hayao, unfortunately, like Jaycee, Goro had no enjoyed the same success as his father, with some of his films flopping at the box office, and critical ratings, with Earwig and the Witch being one of Studio Ghibli's least successful film. Whether it's east or west, fame is all the same, it comes at the cost of children born to celebrities, harassed into keeping their parent's fame alive at all costs, regardless of that child's choices and identity, basically, their image is more important than yours.
Yeah i heard about that after hearing about what went on in that situation i lost respect for hayao miyazaki love his films but im not a big fan of the guy himself
I understand Jaycee's pov more than his father's. I grew up with asian tiger parents who expected nothing but the best outcome. I feel pressured 24/7. There's no relax day and no dreams at all. I felt like a puppet on a string forced to play a role I never want to. My voice is basically gone. I was never listened to or asked what I really want. They only care about our image in front of other people. It's like as long as we look angelic to others, it doesn't matter if we suffer. I hate that so much. Now I'm 26. I've long left the place I used to call home. I still visit them but there's always this feeling of unwelcome because I wasn't up to all their expectations. I broke the cycle but it also broke our relationship. I wish I could say I'm happier now but I'm not. Somehow, stupidly I still hope that they could.. at least, just a little bit be proud of me.. maybe be proud of me that I'm still alive despite all the mental trauma they've put me through, despite all the suicidal thoughts.. and I'm still foolishly hoping..
I understand. My parents, especially my dad, are more controlling than others. I’ve been voluntold to do so many things without my input over the years. A lot of my opinions on certain things I’ve learned to keep to myself because they will be looked down upon with anger, irritation, or even mockery, just for speaking my mind. Nowadays I think my parents are trying to work on it, but the damage has been done. When it comes to most matters in my life, I generally reserve them for myself unless my parents need to know. I know that a lot of my opinions and actions are not approved of by my parents, so I just keep them out of my business as much as possible. I’m 27 now, and I have issues with feeling as though I belong, among other things, because I greatly lacked them in my upbringing. These struggles are not the sole fault of my parents, but they certainly contributed. It’s not wrong for you to hope. Despite everything, it sounds like you still love your parents and want to have them in your life. I hope and pray that they acknowledge you for who you are and what you’ve been able to accomplish in life, even if it wasn’t what they wanted. Godspeed to us both.
My wife's parents are like this, BUT they always expected her to fail, ironically, as she served in the army, then became a nurse, finished her masters, they STILL EXPECT MORE. lol. This is why we keep keep our distance from them, they are endlessly toxic.
@YuyuYui folks like you and my wife have my sympathy, my parents made it easy to write them off by abandoning me as a child, they did me a favor in the fact I don't even know if they are alive...and i really don't care. Where as you will have to struggle with this, the constant push and pull of your heart strings. I don't envy your position. I guess there are some benefits to being a dumpster baby. Lol.
He have his mom, he have everything. He even fail to study. Its his fault, jackie grew up with nothing, you could see why Jackie have such high expectation for him. He fail and then used drugs. Eventhough your father was a symbol for anti narcotic. You probally understand the disapointment in Jackie
actually it's good he did that, he forced his son to FACE UP to his mistakes. Rmb, turning or hiding from mistakes only makes it worse, especially when you're in the spotlight already. Jaycee ultimately is an adult, he made adult decisions and there were consequences, it is that simple. Kudos to Jackie for not abusing his power to ease his son's punishment. In the comments, you can see too many celebrity worshippers that think it's normal for celebrites to get away with crimes, it's too normalized it's becoming scary, responsble parents don't indulge their children' crimes by cuddling them, they send them to institutions like Jackie did and in the long run, it helps, look at Jaycee today, if Jackie induldged Jaycee, where would Jaycee be today?
I was born in Eastern Europe in a communist country. Started working very young, working 12 hours, 6 days a week for 5-10% of what people in the west would call a low salary. Had to fight comunism, demons and a corrupt system that wants us dead, all just to survive. This being said my heart cries in pain when I hear about the tragedy of this milionare kid and his mega rich dad, that didn't get to enjoy all his dreams becoming a reality. I was worried about getting food but now I understand that fate shielded me of the real tragedies of life like not becoming a superstar, on top of life giving you one of the most privileged positions a human can have. Heart breaking, I tell you! Also, 50 Cent is just as good of a father as Jackie. He was never there for his son, he left his wife raise him and now he blames the kid... The children education also falls on the shoulders of the father. A father is not just a provider, that's a slave master. A father is mentor, a guide, a support and a protector. It takes a new level of ignorance to throw money at your kid and expect them to grow into decent humans. 50 Cent and Jackie are both terrible fathers and terrible humans for blaming their kids for their inability to be real men and guide those children...
Low key shocked to hear what a bad father JC was/is. When a person comes across as so wholesome it is sometimes hard to accept that it's pretty much just a performance.
The way that Jackie has spoken about his son publicly, yea, you can tell there is a huge riff between the two. Not speaking directly to the Chan family, as who knows what really goes on in the privacy of their family, but that's one thing I never understood about parenthood. People spend time regretting the hardships that they went through growing up, so they vow to themselves that their own children will never go through the same thing. Then when the child is living a life of comfort, the parents act surprised. I dont say it to stick up for the younger generation, but they are the ones that need to be molded. They are living and viewing the world according to the rules that parents set forth. So if your son leaves his shoes wherever, guess who had the power to stop that.
My view is that experiencing a bad upbringing can be detrimental to parenting. For example, growing up with abuse might make you believe abuse is acceptable or normal, causing you to be more likely to inflict abuse yourself (which is why abuse victims are more likely to become abusers). For Jackie's case, perhaps the issue is that he thinks he's successful because of his bad upbringing rather than despite it, and that makes him think Jaycee is unsuccessful due to a lack of that bad upbringing. If you've never seen how a good parent acts, what makes you think your vision of a good parent is actually good? Doesn't excuse his actions, but it explains it in a seemingly rational way imo. That being said, note that my personal bias is strong here. Reality is rarely so simple, but I think it's good to keep an open mind. Man, it's nice to properly organize my thoughts with a comment.
@@jk-2053 Jackie used his circumstances to cultivate discipline and work to better himself. It's a difference of mindset, a difference of the lenses through which they each percieve the world, at its core.
@@ninosteam3007 well if you're raised in a rich household I'm pretty sure you're gonna compare yourself to your parents no matter what. if your parents flaunt their lifestyle to you and be like 'you need to end up like this' (which I feel like most rich parents do but I could be wrong) the kids are screwed
How weird that I was just randomly thinking of this guy the other day due to a bit of sonder and then saw this. Someone quoted one of Jackie Chan's old movies and I ended up wondering about how his kid was doing after that scandal years back. I hope he keeps trying his hardest and doing his best despite his father's coldness. I know it hurts but he still got much more of a leg up than a lot of us, so he should make the best of it. I wish him and his future endeavors luck. He is his own man no matter what.
You should do one about his DAUGHTER. Now that one broke my heart more than Jaycee. He practically disowned her and it's just horrific. Just because he had a one night stand with a model, but doesn't consider his own daughter family.
Everyone in Hong Kong knew for a fact that Jackie Chan was a deadbeat dad lol. He has a daughter from a non-marital relationship (aka. love child), but he kept denying the fact and left the mother and the daughter's life in chaos. The girl's name is Etta Ng Chok Lam and her tragic life barely gets mentioned in western media; there were reports that she has been on and off the psychic ward for suicidal thoughts. No surprise that his son also turned out like that.
It's unfortunate that Jaycee's potential and achievements were overlooked due to his father's success and reputation. He wasn't able to fulfill the expectations set by Jackie's legacy. However, we can hope that Jaycee's future brings him better fortunes and blessings
That’s where my parenting style stops. My child should never suffer or be without just because I was. It’s up to me to teach him gratitude and respect.
This is something I see a lot in modern day Chinese family, as well as something I struggle with myself. When my parents tell me how much more drive they have when compared to me, they over looked the fact that they were fighting for their survival back then- their drive immediately relates to if they can have dinner that night, and it is a completely different pressure young Chinese are facing today. For a long time, despite having food and shelter, I still felt so lost. The cultural pressure to “succeed” in this society was immense yet abstract. And the horror of it is something seemingly completely lost on the older generation, who had already found their place in the world, and thus they chalk it up to laziness. It’s not about lazy. It’s about the the struggle with self-actualization.
Just last week, as I was working as a college entrance consultant for art school I saw one of our wealthiest, most educated client pressure her daughter to accomplish work that I seriously think simply impossible. When I asked for why, she answered that her experience from the cultural revolution had scarred her for life, and in a constant fear for death and starvation. So she wants her daughter to be able to create wealth to be able to avoid that life…. Note that her daughter plays dark soul all day to spend her time, draws fanart from time to time, and is so pampered that she can’t share bathroom with anyone else. This disconnect genuinely scared me.
Kind of sad seeing Jackie Chan being one of those parents who never spend time with their kids then get upset when their kids don't grow up to be exact copies of them. If Jackie and his Jacyee's mum had helped Jaycee learn about music like he wanted from a young age I wonder how different this story might have been..
I feel bad for his son. I've seen cases in my personal life where neglectful fathers blame a child for lacking discipline without accepting any accountability. Jackie Chan has the means to raise his child however he wants, he van literally have a team of people dedicate their lives to shaping his sons character. The comparison between his and his sons' upbringing is absurd. His own father was penniless while Joyce's father is a superstar.
@@redneckrambo9626yup comprehension is hard for most people. Jackie obviously took accountability and in his writing he’s clearly looking back and even thinking about what he could have or should have done as he drew comparisons with his own hard life. Yet some of these bots are demonizing him for “comparing”. She even feels pity for the son. Yet this soft sentiment towards a kid living a luxurious life is the exact type of mentality that created this weak failure of a man. As soon as you become an adult, you have no one to blame but yourself regardless of what situation you are in
This is a story about Jackie Chan's son.. But it feels like a story about JACKIE CHAN being a terrible father. Jackie Chan likely doesn't think of himself as a bad father, but rather sees his son as a spoiled brat. I feel like Jaycee's name itself is actually evidence of how self-important Jackie Chan feels towards himself. Jaycee = JC = Jackie Chan
Not to mention Jackie Chan actually also formed 2 kpop boygroups and a Co-Ed group that did terrible and the first one was called JJCC. Not sure about the 2nd boygroup but the Co-Ed was called K-Tigers Zero.
his name in chinese is literally "ancestor's name" chan, or "ancestor's fame" chan. (the chinese character for "name" and "fame" are the same, and in mandarin the pronunciation is the same too and I only know mandarin, so I don't know which meaning its meant it to be haha)
Imagine having a father who doesn’t like or support you. Jackie Chan is probably unhappy because no happy and humble person speaks like that about anyone.
I can't be the only one who thinks his father set him up for failure. The father allows his son to be spoiled, gives him no love, discipline or direction, in fact he as a role model is almost completely absent, then puts his son under immense pressure due to his notoriety and personal expectations while having no compassion and then completely abandons and publicly shames his son once he's struggling.
But you got to remember Jackie is 100% conservative traditional type of mindset. That's why he acted this way cutting all ties. They don't give 2 crap on Medical Marijuana, if illegal means illegal no question asked at all.
The first quote at the beginning says it all… having food as a child is not being spoiled. He’s a terrible father who threw away his son for his own image. I hope to see Jaycee continue on doing what he wants, and hopefully find success in his field. Beating your child down is the most pointless thing I can image. Doesn’t the world do that enough to us as it is?
He did have his mother though? Sure 2 parents are ideal but plenty of kids with single parents a lot lot worse than Jackie end up doing just fine in life. Can't blame the parents for everything
I don’t know, kid seems like a major fuck up. It’s not all Jackie’s fault, clearly. You seem like the type of person who takes no responsibility, and just blames your parents, or the world for all of your failures.
As someone of Chinese heritage I understand why Jackie Chan did the things he did, and his mindset is not that unusual among East Asian parents actually. When children don't work has hard as their parents expect them to (with the standards set by how hard they worked when they were young), accusations of being "lazy and ungrateful" are common, and this is an extreme example where fame and fortune amplified the problems that can come from this type of thinking. Jackie thinks that by working hard and providing everything his kid (materially) needs he is properly loving his family and fulfilling his responsibilities as a father. And of course, he would feel disappointed when his son, despite having so many opportunities provided to him, chooses to behaves in a delinquent manner and squanders those opportunities, in stark contrast to what he did with much less. I don't believe Jackie Chan was truly malicious at heart and that hated his son, but just horribly misguided as to how to properly raise Jaycee. I hope that they properly reconcile and that Jackie can realize his mistakes and make amends.
As much as Jackie Chan made mistake raising his son, at one point, Jaycee should have grown enough. We can't blame all of these to Jackie Chan, Jaycee needs to grow up and he never did.
Agreed. I think the “blame everything on the parents” is very much a modern white American way of looking at things, largely because of their need to feel like a victim. That said, Jackie Chan still did a poor job as a father. I think too many Asian parents in the past few decades have been only emphasizing success while not teaching proper values, leading to the infamous “Little Emperor” syndrome. It’s led to the creation of too many spoiled and useless young men.
@@Account-br9kc China is paranoid with drugs for a little thing called The Opium Wars. When Mao reached power, a large part of the Chinese population were drug addicts.
While Jackie's life was definitely tough, I can't say Jaycee's life was easy either. Having an absent father is an extremely painful thing especially for young boys (even though society pretends this isn't a real issue) and its even worse when he is alive but disinterested. I feel bad for Jaycee.
Not to mention when Jackie didn't even try to help him when he got into trouble. I understand if it was in America, but it's in China. You can be sentenced to death for having weed there. It isn't some light sentence. Of course he did end up having a light sentence thanks to who his dad was but still, at the time you didn't know what would happen.
@@r3L4k5 it's literally just weed. just because a law is in place doesn't mean it's a good one. Not to mention that's his child? Idk, I don't trust you if you would let your child be possibly sentenced to death for something as simple as weed.
@@r3L4k5 IFKR. the amount of people BABYING HIM and cutting him slack while he’s a fucking adult acting like a child is fucking pathetic and disgusting. an adult should know right from wrong.
As someone who has lived in my father's shadow and gave up trying to make a name for myself in the same industry shortly after my teenage years, I respect Jaycee's tenacity. What a ruthless life to live.
Can I please suggest you something? You may feel free to ignore it if you wish and I promise that I do not mean to say this out of malice or evil. But could you perhaps reconsider and take another route different from your father's? I think it would be much more relaxing for you. Not that you can't do it and be successful (I'm sure you must be very capable) but to avoid all of the mental strain and second guessing and anguish. I hope and pray the best for you and everyone in this situation. In Sha Allah Ameen. Please do forgive me if I offended you, I am really sorry if it did.
@@syedarizvi7290 this actually very good idea, but OP must ready for his father opinion if his father say what he did is below or etc Just do what you want but also be wise on what career to do, because some career not going to paying bills
As a father, it is our responsibility to make our kids life more easier.We might went through hard times to accomplish things but that doesn't mean they have to walk the same way as we did.
Agreed. There are ways to teach life lessons without people having to suffer to learn. His parents should have done more to raise a person that they could be proud of.
As a father, you shouldn't coddle the child. But just remind the child that he had a better chance of becoming better than you were, whatever path they'll take.
This comment is real. To be honest, the kids didnt even asked to be born. Parents want kids to be their successor of an empire they build or to carry on their genes but at the end no kid asked to be born. Its parents responsibility to give and teach their kids. Kids arent supposed to be given or expected an ultimatum on their behavior to be like their parents
As a son, one of the hardest thing to accept is being lectured by your father when he’s a serial womaniser and unfaithful to your mother. This outcome is frankly, unsurprising. Do hope Jaycee finds his purpose in life.
@@pikachue602 Jackie Chan only married Jaycee's mom so he can divert the attention from his womanising. Jackie Chan got caught cheating multiple time, it was especially public he knocked up another actress. His word was "I only made a mistake what every men will do", he never accepted the child because she is a girl. Jackie Chan only has a good image outside Hong Kong and Mainland China. Professionally, he was a guest of honor in a concert. He showed up drunk and late, audience had enough of it, he started cursing and making a scene on stage. I would say this is worse than Justin Bieber drunk puking on stage.
That one moment when he needed his father the most... the moment when it was family vs public opinion... the moment when simple growing up of a child in a normal family is taken away... Jackie threw him under the buss instead of teaching him the most important lessons. Jackie has to learn as much as his son if not more, sad.
While you're right, we're also talking about China here where if he defended his son, more trouble could start brewing. Jackie Chan isn't a good father but there's nothing he could do there unless he wants the whole family to be run into the ground in China
While I understand the public statements that Jackie Chan made, I don't agree with not being present at the trial. It was the least he could do and no one would blame him for it. Goes to show Jackie Chan was really upset by his son's actions. Glad they seemingly reconciled though. Jaycee's letter also shows that he was mature enough to own up to his mistakes which was not what I expected out of a spoiled child. Hope he does well.
@@augustinelau6053 Honestly for a movie star's son, nothing that was pointed out by Sunny or Jackie in this video makes me think Jaycee was particularly spoiled. The fact that his needs were met and he didn't have the discipline to take care of his belongings, that he didn't perform well in school and got mixed up in drugs, sounds a lot like my own upbringing in middle class America. I understand Jackie wanting his son to appreciate the gifts his career afforded him, but seeing his dad more than two weeks a year when he was growing up would have done far more for his development and well being as an adult than any amount of wealth and luxury. For Jackie to then disown his son when his beloved dictatorship is making a public mockery of him over a relatively tame drug charge really shows how little interest he had in being a good father.
Collectivism vs individualism Also, I don't know what kinda of drugs Jaycee was using, thinking that flying to hongkong is "wasn't trying to be his dad", when he ended up in the acting industry anyway.
Now I understand why my parents were always so hard on me, they didn’t want me to go though the struggles Jaycee went through, I’m glad he’s turned his life around.
NOOOOOO!!!! YOU HAD ABUSIVE PARENTS YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY ABUSE!!!-some random people who think they aren't obliged to do anything for their parents and their parents are obliged to leave them alone while supporting them financially.
You should not expect overly bearing parents to be good parents either! Because here is the opposite extreme: a successful offspring with much resentment on parents, and high risk of offspring cutting ties or communication with parents for not giving the emotional support they needed.
My father was not famous and not nearly as rich as Jackie Chan, but he was always busy with his career when I was growing up.. and 90% of what he said to me when he started a conversation with me was that I was not good enough and he thinks I was lazy and did not work hard enough in school.. It just felt like he wasnt proud of me at all and even ashamed of having a kid like me. It caused me great mental stress and even to this date, I feel a bit anxious being around him, yes he would still criticize his 30 yr old already married son for the smallest things. However looking back, Id have to admit I was not mentally strong, I took his words too seriously and I let all his opinions get into me, its my life and its about what I want to do and live instead of earning his recognition. I still managed to finish University with Engineering degree and started my career with it, never touched any drugs and never drink much too. The big lesson I learned is that nobody is going to change for you, and nor should they, you get what you get thats life, try to appreciate the good things in life more and learn to deal with the bad stuff. Most important thing is, dont take youself too seriously and never stop fighting for what you want.
I sincerely feel bad for Jaycee here. Raised with a golden spoon and all of a sudden asking him to build a life of his own is not easy for him or anyone in that matter. I wish him the best in life.
@@george_MF_washingtonWhile the said provider not only cheated on his wife but also only saw his son 2 weeks per year as well as naming the said son his abbreviation...but I guess Jaycee is the only at fault because being rich fixes problems...surely.
I feel Sad for Jaycee. What people don't realize is that he is just an average kid like all of us. Even if He is being shown undisciplined, the people who are reacting to it are just the same as him. He has been overshadowed by his father's work so much that people imagine him being just like him. I really feel sad cuz if he was not popular, then he would have been the the same as us. Appreciating things like normal people, I hope he gets his personal space. Otherwise, he will just come off as a bad person. And the worst about it is that the people who will be judging him will be the same but they don't have any better work.
you will not feel bad or feel sad for Jaycee if you actually follow his story. Jackie Chan and His family are not really well cover in western media, so Sunny can't find that good of a source. Most material of Jackie Chan's family are in paper form in chinese, let just say the story is a much jucier than Kardashian "act" to be.
yes, a kid with the golden opportunity with tremendous backing by his parents that said he wanted to be different from his dad but is a hypocrite because he didn't cared the slightest about pursuing other career path which is the wish of his parents (doctor, lawyer, etc) and then contradict his own words pursuing a career in the entertainment industry. Jaycee didn't care for shit, parents paid for 1st year tuition? fuck that imma skip class and create a feral living environment living away from parents and pursue music
Jackie attributing a lot of his success to the abuse be dealt with is so insane. There is a middle ground between abuse and spoiling. You don't have to be beat with a cane to learn discipline. The most important part is having someone in the house to teach them that Plus there are tons of people who go through the same thing and end up shitty on the other side, like Jackie who is emotionally cold and abusive. Alot of people go through that and use drugs to deal with the trauma.
@@PepTalkTillYouDrop Yes, I can't help but wonder if he will be full of regret when he is on his deathbed. Or what if something happens to his son? It would probably hurt his pride soo much that he would push it away
@@brettness1416 different kinds of discipline can work for different people some learn better from negative reinforcement(beatings etc.) Or positive reinforcement(rewards etc.) My bet is to have a middle ground reward them for doing good and berate them when they make a mistake(not a small mistake) that way they have an incentive to do better and are discouraged from doing wrong
Not everyone the same. Fact that this method worked for Jackie doesn't mean it would too to others. He just brushed off Jaycees concern and feeling. Not everyone wants the same thing as u.
Both Jaycee and Jackie come from completely different worlds. Jackie is a great guy, but its obvious he was never suited to be a great dad. Some people no matter how inspirational just dont make good parents because they cant find the time to be both a positive public figure, and positive parental role model. On one hand, I sympathize with Jaycee. As an asian myself raised by Tiger parents, i know how high expectations are for the kids. Jaycee's father being THE Jackie Chan certainly made things about 10X harder than it already is. He has much to live up to, and anything negative he does is much more likely to catch the public eye, giving him even less space to make mistakes and grow as his own person. And on the other hand, we can't really blame Jackie either. He is famous because of his great acting skills, his notorious propensity to do most of the dangerous physical stunts himself, his strong discipline in mastering kungfu, and his energy both on and off screen, and his absolutely madlad hardworking attitude. The man grinded himself to the bone to make sure that the miserable life he knew in his childhood is something his kid never had to experience. But in the end, some things just cant ever balance out. Being rich and famous means you never want for anything, but it also means an extreme amount of pressure on both father and son to uphold their careers and how they look in the public eye. Its a curse and blessing, and we as outsiders looking in, can't do or say anything to change the situation. Its all the same for every celebrity and their kids.
just because you are with the family all the time, don't necessarily mean you will be a great parent either. obviously, Jackie's wife was with his son all the time, yet was a terrible mother.
How can you say Jackie Chan is a great guy and a bad parent? You can't be both. The fact that he disowned his biological daughter makes him a total douchebag.
@@mikemike5223 two former South Korean Presidents "Kim Young Sam" and "Kim Dae Jung" did exactly the same thing. They ignored daughters that they had out of wedlock. Yet they called themselves Human Rights activists and warriors of justice.
As an adult you have control of your future and dealing with childhood trauma. That doesn’t negate the fact it happened though. How can you complain about a child you didn’t even raise? What did you expect? No guidance, no attention, not even any signs of love. Just material things. It’s no wonder he followed the path he did.
I like how Jackie recognizes how he played a major part in how he turned out. Not disciplining him or being there as a father. But yet still disowns him over using weed as an antidepressant, which it is prescribed for…
China has a very different view on things such as medicine and drugs, especially "western" ones (likely a bit due to the whole Opium wars...), and Jackie comes from that generation that grew up during the "rise" of the CCP and their draconian laws around things like this. It's easy to understand why he has views like this, and they do make sense for someone of his generation, culture, and upbringing to express. You can't judge a man on not having experienced something or having experienced something else.
@@DaemonicRenamon To be honest I find it extremely hard believing Jackie Chan was never once exposed to any drugs as an actor in the 70s/80s. People were powdering their noses every 5 minutes.
@@dankerbooper he dont even have 5 minutes for drugs dude . Have you seen the video ? he doesn't even have more than 2 weeks per year for his family lmao
It's good knowing that Jacee isn't just sitting around doing nothing. Even after all the disappointments from his films, he's not quitting. Respect.
@The Grinch 🅥 ugh
@The Grinch 🅥 You actually make me want to die
@@astroboirap his father is more of a waste of skin. Uses America to become what he is today. Gets rich and becomes a CCP shill. Dudes a clown simping for commies
@@astroboirap There's something genuinely funny about you saying that partially racist statement while having a nickname that clearly comes from one of the single most important "yellow skin"-made animation projects of all time. Granted you went for Astro Boy and not Mighty Atom, but still.
Like not even in a mean-spirited way, the contrast actually just made my day. XD
Edit: Aww, the comment was deleted. A shame! I understand, though. 😋
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You actually fell for it🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. What was the video about though?🤣🤣
I honestly feel bad for Jaycee. Living in the shadow of your father your whole life isn’t easy at all.
A father that didn't really raise you, to boot. He was sorta set up for failure being an only child in those circumstances.
@Pablo del Segundo Set up for failure, the opposite, actually. He had pretty much every opportunity under the sun.
His father seems pretty harsh and seemed to have put very high expectations on him at a very young age which can be incredibly damaging.
@@pablodelsegundo9502 yeah he was set up for failure alright
never having to work a day in his life and having enough wealth for even the next generation to do the same
however will he cope?!!
i do too. my dad is a successful person (real estate, data analytics, govt contracts relating to toll management) but not famous. he did let me have a normal childhood but when i was little he would get me whatever i wanted. i was a spoiled asshole. i still hate myself for being as such but as my sister was born the sudden lack of attention, that spoiled thing in me just vanished. we also had to move to less posher area because my dad's new office but was in the same city. the place was definitely safe but it wasnt fancy. my parents would let me get into trouble and fend for myself. i felt horrible. i was in 7th. 7TH!!. when i just gave up. gave up. totally, my grades dropped and again had to face the consequences for that but i did not go back to what i was. now when i got into highschool, my father did start spending alot more time with me especially during covid. now i am a better person. ambitious. i do want to do stuff and take risks in life. i want to kind of be like him. but man, thank god i went through shit. even though money was never a problem, fending of for myself did teach me a lot. more so on how to react to such situation, i now do well in a high stress environment and do not break. though i am still lonely, i know what to do in my life, lots to fix too, i am overweight, and some more i will be obese type 1. i stopped gaining weight. i mean i will shutup now lol, never drained my thoughts so hard in my life. i feel better ig. thank you and sorry for putting this out there.
also i apologize for my grammar, my thoughts were just racing through. oh man. and do not feel sorry for me, there is a good chance i probably still suffered less than what most of you do on a daily basis.
Jackie Chan really said he was never home to help raise his child and wondered out loud why his kid wasn't more like him.
Jackie Chan didn't even want his son to be like him (an actor). Did you watch the video? He stated that he wanted him to become a doctor, engineer or something like that.
@Shisui but even when he did "take accountability," he immediately disowned his son by refusing to help him out of a mess that even Jackie blamed on his own poor parenting. He didn't even visit him in Hong Kong prison or attend the trial. So he clearly didn't learn a lesson about actually parenting. He's still not being a parent.
@@Aisuki-suki jacky said he has faild to be a father😅😅
@@lenny7822 that's not the point. The point is "raise your fucking kids so they don't become drug addicts aho are starved for love and attention".
@@shibaru24 still pretty shitty dad
A neglectful dad is worse than an absent one. Not knowing your dad is hard but knowing him and seeing that he doesn’t care about you at all is even harder. 2 weeks a year. That’s torture to a child.
Jackie Chan suffers from a severe case of Stockholm syndrome. He now wishes his son to fail. It's a good thing her mother got more involved.
I’d still rather have a neglectful dad than an abusive one.
@@venomgaming7014 Even if he doesn't touch your wii wii ?
@@venomgaming7014I agree abusive parents are way worse because you know that they hate you and that you may pass their bad traits indirectly to you.
Neglect is just another form of abuse, honestly.@@venomgaming7014
There's a bit of irony in this whole thing. Jackie's work ethics is why he has become so successful, but it's also a factor as to why Jaycee grew up the way he did. He was too busy doing his own thing and didn't give the proper time and guidance to his own son.
but jaycee was also to lazy to try and do anything worth while, jackie was right when he complained about how spoiled and lazy jaycee was
@kevinmorrice I said it was a factor, never said it was the sole reason why Jaycee became a "failure". Also being spoiled wouldn't be such an issue if Jackie was around to teach him about the value of money and hard work.
@@kevinmorrice That might be due to bad parenting too.
@@POOH_LY true, i mean his dad wasnt around much due to his career being so huge, but what was his mom doing ?
@@kevinmorrice both are terrible parent
Jesus. Never knew that Jackie Chan had a son, let alone the life he had to live. Sunny is the only RUclipsr I can watch do an entire presentation about a person I know nothing about
He also has a daughter, but he disowned her for being a lesbian.
He also has a daughter conceived with a mistress. He has no relationship with her and never took care of her.
@Lucifer Morningstar at this point, i have started to think that even these people are bots due to the excessive comments
if u are human and reading this, bots are emotionless and dont read your replies
@@minafrota6124 I thought he never recognized her as a daughter due to his shame from having a mistress though? And she ended up living in poverty with no real father
watch magnatesmedia.
just a suggestion
I dont think Jackie realizes that alot of this falls on him for not being a parent. Speaking from experience, not having your parents be present in your life, in emotional or physical capacity, really does a number on kids/teens. As a "young" adult I've come to understand why my parents weren't the best, but it doesn't lessen the impact of not having available parents in a period of massive brain developers. It seems, I went the route of becoming an adult while being a child, while Jaycee went the route of angst and brooding. Which neither are good, but one is easier to recover a broken/breaking relationship from than the other. I'm glad to see they are atleast trying to make things better between each other.
Not more tragic than this 👉Dominion (2018)
It's 100% his fault and disowning your child over long debunked myths about cannabis or archaic laws is absolutely despicable in my opinion.
Anything short of hurting a child and I will always have my kid's back!
@semmelit doesn't seem to me like he's excepting responsibility for a damn thing.
Jackie chose his career/reputation over his family for our entertainment. He talked about it briefly In his documentary *Jackie Chan My Story*
@@theriffwriter2194 as a daily weed smoker i will confidently say we do not have enough research to show there aren't long term affects of weed use. we already know rn that it does in fact impact your memory over extended use.
What you forgot mentioning here is Jackie Chan also cheated a lot on his wife. Jaycee said in his interview that "I saw my mom crying secretly in her washroom, but she did not choose to divorce him and endured the fragile marriage because she wanted to raise me to be a better person." I feel bad for Jaycee and his mother. Of course, she has her part in his son's upbringing, but you gotta admit that she was also a victim of Jackie Chan's selfishness.
In asia, it’s all about saving face although it’s good he took responsibility for his son, but JC has had massive issues with alcohol, which is a drug.
Also pot, coke/crack, and meth are all tame drugs.
Yeah, poor multi millionaire wife having it to choose between staying with Jackie who sleeps around sometimes probably because he doesn't get enough, or having to leave the money. Poor poor lady.
@@thedutchest so because she is a wife of a multi millionaire, she deserves domestic verbal abuse, multiple cheatings and so on? you're the type who considers the financial factor is above all of human issues. A wife of multimillionaire or not, no one deserves that.
@@thedutchestjust because you are rich, doesn't make you entitled to be an ass. If you really didn't like that women, don't marry her, don't have kids with her, stay away from her. Go marry some other gold digger 30 years younger than you.
@@thedutchest tell me you haven't touched a woman in your life without telling me
Hot take:
If Jackie Chan only interacted with his son for two weeks out of every year, not only does he have no right to complain about how he turned out, but it's also his fault. He clearly had enough money to turn down a few movies, he could have made time to raise his son right, he could have implemented the discipline he constantly talked about, but he didn't.
Lol you clearly didn't understand the work ethic of Chinese people 😂
what about kids without fathers?
@@pixelman457 research shows kids without a father figure are much more likely to have mental problems, get into drugs or commit crimes. Jackie not being there really did a number on Jaycee's emotional development as a child
Dude... where I am from kids get sent to boarding school as young as 8. They get to see their parents for 4 weeks in a year during holidays. Other holidays they could be with their grand parents, aunties etc.
As well as many situations where the father works far away and only sees the family like once in 2 years. It is not uncommon...
Not to say he didn't have. But Jaycee had a lot of time and resource to turn his life around. An absentee father is a factor, but there are also other factors. At the end of the day, Jaycee was an adult when he got caught with drugs in his father's apartment. Him being there says as much as him having the drugs and providing a place for his friends to do drugs.
Jaycee was doomed from the start. You couldn’t possibly expect him to live up to such a name like Jackie Chan. This is absolutely heartbreaking he might not have faced the same struggles as Jackie Chan but he’s definitely faced his own struggles I can’t imagine constantly being made to feel as though you’re not enough bc of who your father is. He didn’t ask for any of that and such a big hassle made over marijuana? They’re lucky he wasn’t dabbling in much harder drugs. This is all so sad. I wish the man the best.
Yea I don't really have any sympathy. There's "not living up to your famous father's legacy" and then there's "not even making it through 1 year of college, and getting arrested and permanently tarnishing your and your families legacy". There's a WORLD of difference between the two, you can't pretend they're the same...
Also yea - in other countries marijuana is VERY illegal - that's the whole reason we had to trade war criminals for one of our basketball players. There are different laws in different countries, and I'm sure he knew the law of the land he has citizenship in...
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020who cares what you think. You see it as black & white 🤦🏽♂️
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 permanently tarnishing your families legacy? You think people watch Rush Hour and think oh man I can’t watch this anymore Jackie Chans son smoked weed 😫😫😂😂😂 that’s such a stupid stance. Also, college isn’t for everyone. He coulda been extremely stressed and under a lot of pressure I think that could break a person.
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Easy on the caffeine
@@chimpodyssey no but he has a point no? He was provided with everything you will ever need to be successful from birth(besides some affection maybe) and still managed to "fail", and people blame it entirely on Jackie somehow
Jackie has a kid...sees him two weeks a year...and then complains that his kid turned out bad...well no shit. YOU WEREN'T THERE.
He treats him like he committed murder or something
@@DonOctavioSanchez agreed
He is one of those parents who don't parent and then expects their child to somehow be successful on their own. Before you ask if your child has achieved enough, you should first reflect on whether or not you've done enough.
@@DonOctavioSanchez That's just because he has standards that he wants his son to meet.
@@rachelxu8229why Rachel,why Rachel do you react that way? Look at you and all your friends, we live in a softened age. It's not rocket science to be respectful and wirk hard at school or work and not hang around losers/bad influences.
A lot of life is self raised. You think Jacky had his parents around? He was raised by an orphanage. Meanwhile his son could have had the best teachers and tutors. I don't think Jacky is a bad guy or parent as much as it's a loser and disrespectful generation really. It became cool to be lazy or not work hard in school or such especially in North America so really he just went w the crowd lol
From my understanding, Jackie's biggest issue was naively assuming that just because he went thru hardships and came out on top, that his own son would end up the same as well.
But everyone reacts to trials and tribulations differently, and what Jaycee ultimately needed from the looks of it, was just a father who was around alot more
Well tbh you can't blame Jackie. It's perfectly reasonable to think that what worked for you would also work for your own son. It's all Jackie knew when growing up, so naturally he would want to carry on the tradition, seeing that it worked for him as a child
@@zionbaptiste1292 that would be his failure. In the end, he doesn't have a true happy family. He denied his daughter and didnt try to see in his son perspective. But I bet he doesn't really care, just like most alpha male, families r just an another adornment to their successes.
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 what happen to his daughter, and he is pretty bad for having an affair resulting in a child too but he is still a great actor my father really looked like him
@@nabie7886 shes a very sad case. Despite having a super famous and rich father, jackie said he didnt recognised her as his. Shes born from another woman with Jackie but they had a fight I think so he cut off everything related to her. So, the daughter now lives a poor mans life.
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 Speaking of which, wasn't his daughter groomed by her spouse? Cause if so, why are people bashing the daughter and not the predator she married????
Jackey wishing for his son to be a doctor, engineer or lawyer is the most Asian thing I have heard today.
Well he is an Asian
So true, idk man sounds like just Asian thing... Father not wanting his kid to become musician or show business but doctor or engineer
Clearly Jackie Chan is not a good parent
It's funny because Jackie totally wasn't a Doctor. He was in the arts. But even he OF ALL PEOPLE couldn't overcome the Asian parent stereotype
@Patrick39 + your mom in my bed + spam reported
Honestly the fact that this kid doesn’t blame it on his dad speaks a lot to his character. In his memoir Jackie also mentions excessive drinking, infidelity and even abusing Jaycee when he was a toddler. Kid was spoiled rotten but can anyone really blame him for how he ended up? Also Jackie is 0/2 now which makes you think who’s really at fault here
Yes, he is to be blamed for his own behavior.
What does 0/2 mean?
@@yolenda_loves_to_sing probably that he raised 2 children poorly although i don't know if he has other children
Its not about parenting, he is just awful human. Many people having worse circumstances, but for some reason, they are not doing stupid shit
@@martinjensen4563 He does have another child, a daughter.
The fact that Jackie blamed his son's issues on his wife and providing for his son and not on the fact that he was absent aa a father is really sad and shows a lack of true reflection and self- awareness. He was upset that his son lacked discipline but he wasn't around to teach it to him.
you wanted JACKIE to work hard, provide for his family AAANNNDDDD spend time with them too.
Typical wife demands now a days if you ask me. they want to you to work for 15 hours a day, go for shopping with them, be present there for all events like food etc. and spend quality time of daily at least 2 hours with their children. and they do not want to know how many hours are there in one day.
@@hamzaahmad1345the fuck are you talking about?
A spoiled child will grow up to be an awful adult. His mother bought him everything he could have wanted instead of givig him what he needed, that being some kind of activity that instilled some form of virtue/discipline into his life.
@@TheRealPaul_Morphy Nah, you can't run defense for Jackie Chan here when we know he was an absentee father. If Jackie Chan is so disappointed in how his son was raised, maybe he should've been there for that process.
@cameronstrouth7614 Na you can't say it's solely his fault when what I said has been proven to be factually true over the course of human history.
I honestly feel so bad for any celebrity's children. To be in their parents shadows must be the worst feeling
I think that if the parent can give/teach their children self-confidence, self worth and love, the kids can grow up very well adjusted. Sometimes, the kids just don't get that kind of support from their celebrity parents. 🙁
So bad. Having a lot of money and opportunities to do well at life. Shame. What a shame
boo hoo so sad being born into money, wealth, fame and massive opportunities...
@@blaineherrington9502 touche
@@blaineherrington9502 but still what if they genuinely want to have their own path and if they fail, they'll just be known as that one celebrity's kid
I hope Jaycee manages to fully turn his life around. He deserves it, and Jackie does too - not as the world famous actor, but as a father.
For not being there at all during his childhood? Yeah, makes no fucking sense
@@breddoge9369 heh
Ash and pikachu doesnt need father
CCP chills deserve nothing.
How is he supposed to magically become talented without any hard work
I actually feel sorry for Jaycee. While he had almost everything he needed from the start, the one thing he didn’t have was a strong connection to his father and the lessons that come with it. Jackie enabled his son and wondered why hard work was such a foreign concept to Jaycee.
He had everything he needed physically, but nothing he needed emotionally or role model wise. Just cause you aren’t poor doesn’t mean that bad parents can’t still screw up your childhood.
He was practically absent. Can't expect to raise a happy child when you're not raising them.
Wait his name is jaycee ? Like JC ? Jackie chan ?
Thank you captain obvious, Jackie said as much in the video.
That doesn’t even make sense. Jackie was there and did support his son. The dude is just sloppy and lazy. He had his father growing up
This isn't a video about a bad son, this is a video about a bad father
this is more like a strik father
Both too actually .
Narcissistic father
It’s about both of them. They’re equally at fault
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I have respect for the fact that Jaycee is still moving forward with his projects despite the crappy hands he's been constantly being dealt, the countless failures he's experienced and always being compared to his father.
Jaycee is still going after an insane amount of scrutiny. Though he has his flaws, the guy has one hell of a backbone.
Pat of the reason he can keep moving forward though is 'cause his dad keeps bailing him out.
@@KyokujiFGC His dad does that to save his own face. Not so much his son. Jackie pretty much cares about his own image above everything else. Plus Jackie doesn't even do any parenting. What did you expect Jaycee would turn up when he lacked a proper role model and is constantly in the press' sights?
Crappy hands? He's got everything he needed to succeed. He's basically in an Elon Musk's Father type of family.
@@zaberfang I don't see how that would set someone up for success. Unless you mean successfully get harassed and mocked online just because your parent is a billionaire and all billionaires must be greedy and corrupt narcissistic people in the public's eyes.
@@zaberfang i think you are confusing money with success. They money(his father's) you are speaking of, yes surely it provided his a better lifestyle, comfort and even financial stability but it didn't teach him morals, ethics and discipline needed to become successful. You either learn that from a mentor (which he never had around) or from hard work (which he never needed to do because of his father's money) on top of that he'd never be able to value or respect his father's money because his father was never there and yet still he had to live under his father's shadow for the rest of his life. I can only imagine how much he hated or didn't care about his father and his money. He was doomed to be at this position he's in right now.
He doesn't seem like such a bad kid. Just spoiled, which wasn't exactly his fault. The pressure of living up to being a model son of one of the most well-known people in China is something I can't imagine.
Doesn't help either that his dad is an asshole
Spoiled and have a severed lack of personal father figure that would be there with him and kick his ass if he did something wrong.
Holy fk the bots are getting worse..
Dude grew up both spoiled and neglected, pretty messed up combination.
Being born in a wealthy family results those things sometimes.
I met Jaycee at a dinner in 2007 when I was a kid. He was very kind and he had a "chill vibe" to him. I hope he is well and happy; it's not easy to be Jackie Chan's son.
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Oh nice, but how did you know it was him
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I see the name and there's is a possibility
Jackie's humility becomes hubris. He doesnt realize that his belief of himself doing the "normal amount of work" or something "anyone can do" just isn't ordinary.
He's forced his son to live in his shadow without ever giving him the lessons he learned growing up. You can't expect everyone to be just like you.
Wow, I feel really bad for Jaycee. It's clear Jackie Chan went through a lot growing up that left him with a very strong discipline, however I don't think that level of dedication can be expected of everyone. I'm sure there were also many who went through what Jackie Chan did, who did not become so successful and famous. I also can't imagine working such long, hard, demanding hours while never seeing my family or developing serious health problems because of it. And I'm not sure that Jaycee becoming a doctor or engineer would have kept him around his family more, I know many doctors and engineers who are basically on-call and at their jobs 24/7. Also as an American, I thought the backlash against drugs in our country was bad ... yikes.
Doctors and engineers are rarely on call - As an engineer I don't know any people who are required to work 40+ hours a week. Everyone that does makes overtime
You can't blame it all on the parents though. I know people who were spoilt rotten when they were kids, but they still turned out to be nice people with successful careers. So some of it must boil down to personality, which you can't blame Jackie for.
Chinese are strict on drugs due to the Century of Humiliation/Opium Wars.
@@squodge Oh you can't, and I didn't mean to imply it's all Jackie's fault. It just seems like the two always had a shaky relationship which I think really sucks and I know how it feels to have a parent that expects perfection from you. I see a lot of people in the comments calling Jaycee spoiled, etc. but it does seem as though he tried to branch out into a career he felt passionate about (making music) so I think it is kind of unfair to call him lazy and say he hasn't tried to make something of himself (the comments from Jackie about Jaycee being lazy for going to bed at 9pm made me cringe a little because I'm not always able to stay up late myself as a working adult). Just because his music didn't become popular doesn't mean he didn't work hard on it, and as an artist myself I know how crushing it is to see your work flounder/fail on its own without biting commentary in the background from the parent who was never there. I am kind of curious about going and watching some of the films Jaycee was in myself to see how he did with the acting, that also doesn't seem to have been successful BUT I wonder if that was because he was a bad actor, or if it's because he was expected to be the next Jackie Chan? Part of me is curious, if he worked on a project using a penname and kept his personal identity a secret would he have a better chance at succeeding in his own right? Or is his art really just that bad?
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 I've known doctors who have to work very very long shifts, and often aren't available for a lot of family events and stuff. Doesn't mean they are never available, but they do work a lot. Of course it probably depends on what kind of doctor you are, and whether or not you live in a crowded city like I did (we had a shortage back where I used to live). I also have an Uncle who is an engineer, and he makes a ton of money but he's constantly working or travelling, oftentimes to other countries. Growing up more often than not when I visited or chatted with my Aunt or cousin it'd be "Oh it's just going to be us at dinner, Uncle is in Japan doing work for his company so he's not going to be back for a while." or "He's not going to be here today, he's working until x o'clock and then he's going golfing to discuss business." Of course, I'm sure he also probably did a lot of management and stuff, but he worked a LOT. He could afford a nice big house, all sort of cool toys like a vintage car and his own customized garage, a lavish garden, etc. But he was almost never home to actually enjoy any of it.
It really shows how important having a father is for children
Having a good father you mean. A bad father can do far worse damage than if he wasn't there at all
How can Jackie be upset at his son's lifestyle when he did nothing to educate him better? Hell, he was barely around him. Jaycee wasn't naturally lazy; he needed to be taught or incentivized to work. Some wealthy and successful people refuse to spoil their kids for that reason alone. And for a proud member of the Chinese Communist Party, which preaches the abolition of private property, he seemed pretty comfortable letting his family live a lavish lifestyle in America.
Would be nice if the media/films actually promoted this idea.
Would be very cool if parents didn't abandon their children but that's a impossible thing to hope for. Fathers are important but I know I will never have the luxury of having one
A strong mother and father figure is ideal. That's why gay people shouldn't adopt children in my opinion
Can’t disown a son if you never raised them in the first place.
@RUST 🅥 Stop!
Omg, this
Couldn’t have said it better
You shouldnt have a kid when you dont have time for your kid every son needs a father
Bro wasn't there for his kid and was upset that his kid didn't have any discipline? God, dude. I wish nothing but the best for Jaycee.
imagine wishing the best for failure of a son.
@@Kaimax61 You should wish exactly for the best to turn his life around and not become a "failure". You're attitude is horrible.
@@Kaimax61 What kind of garbage take is that?
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you'd know a lot about that wouldn't you?
@@Kaimax61 Just delete this comment. More L's headed your way if not.
I feel more bad for Jaycee than Jackie. The burden of having a legendary father is not easy because no matter what you do is not enough. A public humiliation by your own dad is the most heart breakening thing that one can ever ever imagine.
legendary? no way, he's famous for a few movies he starred, yes, but not legendary.
@@lissam956 He definitely is legendary lol. One of the main reasons Hollywood takes stuntmen seriously.
And this is why the saying - no matter how good at you think you are at something, an Asian will beat you at it- exist. Westerners prioritise comfort over resilience and discipline. Expect everything to handed down, and things to be easy. When they see someone else who work twice as hard to beat them at their own game, they get mad and yell for the refugees and immigrants to 'go back to your country'.
@Martha a frog living in a well, thinks the sky is round and only slightly bigger than the moon. Just because you only consume western media, doesn't mean he isn't famous. Maybe not to you, but certainly to millions of asian people across the continent.
@@lissam956 井底之蛙, katak di bawah tempurung. Look that up. It's cute when white people struggle with even one language and think we're prodigies.
Saying you take "full responsibility" and actually doing it are two different things but at least it's a step in the right direction on Jackie's part to be a better parent to his son now. 👏 Also, respect to Jaycee for becoming more responsible and trying to mend his relationship with his dad instead of just resenting him till the end of time. He's definitely not a failure because self-destruction would have been the easier option.
He disowned his son. I don't think he's taking any steps to be a better parent. His apology was for embarrassing the Chinese government more than failing his son, at least in my opinion. Gotta lick the boot that's standing on his throat.
If Jaycee Chan resented him, he'd be within his rights still.
Jaycee sounds like he was a normal teenager and Jackie had extremely high expectations of him. I think this attitude of always being disappointed in your son was a bigger problem than the comfortable upbringing Jackie provided
This is extremely sad but also one of the most interesting stories that shows the cultural concept of honor, and how vital even the slightest of mistakes are to society. It’s really messed up…
This wasn’t a slight error. The son of the anti-drug ambassador over a billion people was holding drug parties in the anti-drug ambassadors house. This in a country where normal people go to jail for having much less drugs in their possession. And it didn’t just embarrass Jackie Chan, it put his and his wife’s liberty at risk because it was their house. And in China, they’re quick to confiscate rich criminals wealth too. This nepo baby put every single thing Jackie Chan has worked for at risk. Everything! And in any case, America should use some honor culture. A country where two huge politicians have kids who ended up with teen pregnancies but still try to ban sex education.
Yeah he really did nothing wrong other than moving back to China and living with his close minded Dad.
@@MostGenericUser Yep, in the US rich parents use their connections to protect their spoiled brats while in China they let them deal with the consequences of their own actions...What a sad country amIright?
He didn't seems so "honorable" when he cheated on his wife multiple times, having a daughter with a mistress and disowned that daughter though. Is this honor thing selective? Only apply to other people but not him? Because I have a very difficult time understand how someone like Jakie Chan has any business talking about "honor".
@@靖淵曾 right?! the things famous ppl get away with smh
I remember watching a documentary about Jackie Chan in the early 90s where he already talked about being an absent father. He completely failed his son and is unfortunately not the nice guy we all know and love from his movies.
First time Asian dad representation?
@@emoaf8555 I considered him on the extreme end of that spectrum, you saying this is the norm? :)
@@danielwagner2034 it's the norm. from an asian perspective, Jaycee is the failure as he's already an adult.
To put things into perspective for you, Goku from Dragon Ball is considered an absent father in the west for hardly ever being around, while in Asia his son Gohan is considered spoiled for the time Goku spent with him.
He failed his daughter too :(
Jaycee hardly ever saw his father, and when he did, Jackie abused him horrifically (as admitted by Jackie himself). That coupled with his mother not knowing how to cope with her absent husband any other way than spoiling Jaycee materially… I just feel so bad for him. Money means nothing when you treat someone so poorly.
That's normal for Asians. They're so strict to the point it's considered abuse to the majority of the population. Different cultures.
@Toriel I’m not allowed to feel bad for a victim of child abuse? Interesting morals you have
money at a young age is destructive and imparts entitlement for life.
@@cee8ch what kind of abuse was it?
@@justachillfridge1075 Jackie admitted to physical and emotional abuse. Jackie also cheated on his wife (Jaycee’s mother) and abandoned the daughter he had with his mistress. Jackie’s daughter states that she at one point lived in poverty because Jackie refused to acknowledge her existence.
Just coz Jackie had a rough childhood doesn't mean his son should be suffering too when he is a son of a multimillionaire this is something i really didn't expected from Jackie!!!
Jackie says so many honorable things that I respect… because I learned them from my father. It was not his job to tell these things to the media for our benefit. It was his job to teach these things to his son. He took responsibility and said as much, but never invested in his relationship with the kid. That is pretty hurtful and tarnishes the things I admire about him.
I never really got why people respect him (Jackie Chan) so much. He’s a B list actor at best. Plus there is this whole primitive honor shame culture he’s holding on to.
@@thedukeofchutney468 The western world fails to understand is that Jackie Chan is actually a complete cockhead. Ask a Hong Konger how they feel about their most famous entertainment export, they'll tell you.
That’s just like saying with no action. Hypocrite that’s what it is
@@thedukeofchutney468 Especially dumb when in movies like Shanghai Noon the central theme is how outdated those notions of honor really are and how they compel otherwise intelligent people to do stupid things.
@@thedukeofchutney468 Jackie Chan is part of the synagogue of pedophilia in Hollywood. They made him who he is today. No reason to respect any celebrity, they’re all dirty. The sooner you see this the better.
I, like everyone else felt really bad for Jaycee, and I won't lie, nearly tore up hearing about his father wanting little to do with him during the scandal. He didn't seem bad, spoiled perhaps, but he admitted to his own faults too. Plus his lire couldn't be easy with that extremely high expectation set upon him.
And tbf, how could you not be when your born in such circumstances?
@@dantecaputo2629 Mhm exactly
Get a grip man...crying over this? Lol
The thing I'm curious about and can't help but wonder if Jackie is thinking about it is - How is Jackie gonna feel when he is on his deathbed? Will he be full of regret? I love Jackie as an actor, and grew up on him, but with his rigorous schedule, he probably wasn't much of a father figure.
@@dantecaputo2629 parent wanted him to be a lawyer doctor or engineer thats a very average asian household
It's always heartbreaking to see your childhood hero's true personality and failures as a human. Reading through the comments made me feel even more bad about how Jackie neglected his children.
felt like his daughter Etta Ng Chok Lam got even worse
@@PhumKaeos she deserved it
@@PhumKaeos wats wrong with her???
@@conceitedfication 1 jackie cheated on hes wife and got her, 2 he kind of left out his daughter for being gay, 3 shes poor if not homeless i think
How is it neglected. It not like he totally broke ties with him. You guys are too soft.
This story is actually making me angry, perhaps due to my connections with my own Asian family.
Thinking discipline, punishment, and parental distance is how you raise is a good kid, and then blaming said kid and abandoning them when they don't turn out how you want them!
Proper child rearing needs a balance of both discipline and love, and no spoiling a child doesn't count as love! A proper parent needs to be there for there child, developing a connection and gently yet firmly guiding them through life.
Jackie missed the ultimate lesson from his teacher, that you have to give the child your time, attention, effort and patience. When you care about a thing or a person, that is what you do. The results don't just magic out of thin air. It takes a lot of dedication. If you want that level of discipline for your child, you either have to sacrifice your own life's ambition to get it done or find/pay someone else to do it for you. Otherwise, don't complain.
YESSSSSSSSS
That’s the lesson he learnt in hindsight. Jackie now understands the torture he went through was actually helping built his character, rather than be given everything in life. But who can blame him. He wants his son to have everything he couldn’t have when he was young… he only knew afterwards this kind of upbringing was wrong but it’s already too late. His son was already molded into the person he is now.
sounds like jackie still did not learn the lesson his master tries teach him...
@@rosewaters2533 its the grand parents who should spoil
Jackie’s master was abusive. He’d beat the kids personally. When Jackie was sick one day and the nurse told the Master and he got upset. He asked Jackie “How are you feeling?” When Jackie said he was sick the Master told him to do a thousand kicks in front of the students. After he was done and about to pass out the teacher asked if he was still sick and Jackie said yes. He had to do a thousand more kicks and at this point his whole body was about to collapse. The Master asked if he was still sick and Jackie said no. This isn’t even the worst of it. Jackie’s Master never taught him how to be a father I don’t know where you got that from.
I heard about Jackie Chan’s son and his arrest.
He would’ve got a longer sentence or the death penalty if he wasn’t the son of a famous celebrity.
I hope where he’s at he’s doing well and making something for himself.
death penalty for possession of weed are you out of your mind?
@@vic_710 he lived in china
Before the amendment you won't get the death penalty for having such amount of drugs like Jaycee does, but he'll spend probably 10 to 20 years in prison if he wasn't Jackie's son, after the amendment, which is now, having 50g of drugs can get you the death penalty.
@@vic_710 That's how it works, people are actually OK with it. Ordinary Chinese don't do drugs, even weed is forbidden.
@@vic_710 China
The story of Jackie chan daughter is even more sad. Jackie chan is right about failing as a father but he also failed as a husband too
Jackie Chan had a daughter outside of wedlock, with a mistress. The mistress, in this case, left to raise her daughter away from all the drama of being the child of a celebrity's affair and refused to have anything to do with Jackie.
Later on, once things calmed down, she reached out and Jackie supported them financially, although their relationship never developed.
His daughter was groomed by a much older english teacher from Canada, Andi Autumn, who later became an influencer. This teacher eventually convinced her to come to Canada to marry her, which both Jackie and her mother were extremely opposed to and forbid her from doing. She felt that it was unfair that BOTH her parents didn't allow her to go to a foreign country to marry a much older woman, and ran away to Canada.
There, she and Andi Autumn married without the blessing of her parents, naturally, and once started to talk all sorts of shit on social media about Jackie Chan. Her mother and Jackie repeatedly tried to get her to come back to China, until eventually they cut her off financially.
She is still there, with her spouse, as far as I know.
Jackie Chan is not a good parent, and he was not a good husband either, but the whole situation with his dauther is not nearly as one sided as the media and many people who only read headlines seem to make it out to be.
@@naosou921 He's both a great parent and a great husband, he cannot control what his grown adult children decides to do with their life.
@@adriandoesyoutube8092 are you saying that her getting groomed was her fault?
@@adriandoesyoutube8092he cheated on his wife. He is not a good husband
@@adriandoesyoutube8092 projection is a hell of a drug
Can relate this to my own life. Growing up in my father’s shadow with him being a Jackie Chan in his own careers. Never having to worry about tomorrow and then suddenly taking that away from me when my father left and for my parents to expect me to just figure out life on my own. Even tho my dad still financially supports me it still isn’t enough. No money could amount to just spending time with me and teaching my life lessons that would help me grow. Now I am lost with no direction in life. Not knowing what I want to do. Never had the emotional and genuine support from both of my parents. They only told me to do good in school but never any life lessons.
Give me your money I know what to do 😂
i lost my dad when i was a teen, i think you can still have life lessons from other people around you, and from life itself. i understand feeling parentless, but you’re not supposed to be clueless either bc they’re not around. wish you well, good luck
This really makes me reconsider how much I like Jackie Chan, an absent father who judges his son for his mistakes and doesn’t seem concerned or attempt to help in the slightest. Jackie is to blame for the majority of his sons faults and him not helping shows the ego he wants to protect.
For real! He also supports the death sentence for drug related charges tf is wrong with him 🤦🏻♂️
@RUST 🅥 STOP FOR GOD'S SAKE
i dont think its all that black and white. personally i dont think there is anyone to blame in any situation because there are so many factors to everything. now to be clear i am in no way excusing jackies abuse and saying it wasnt his fault he abused his son but what i am saying is there is most likely at least 1 reason for it that was out of his control. that abuse that jackie chan has been doing to his son couldve also come from his father who then came from the fathers father to the fathers father father and so on. once again definitely no excuses to jackie hes definitely a piece of shit but all i wanted to point out was there was a reason for this that was out of his control
@@tazmania200000 That's not what was said, rather "supports the death penalty for serious charges". Also Americans can't seem to comprehend that there's countries other than here; China is VERY different, especially if you're a famous celebrity like Jackie. Smoking marijuana or even bad mouthing the president will get you kicked out of the country or worse
@@tazmania200000 you mean cartel? Cmon now. If ur pushing fentanyl you are a killer
I really hope he finds success. Its really hipocritical of jakie to spend so little time with his son and then be angry if he does not turn out perfect
There's "not turning out perfect" then there's "convicted criminal and college dropout". His son was a fuckup, "not perfect" is significantly understating things
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Could be worse, he could've been some demented individual that killed people or some hard drug dealer, there are cases of neglected rich children that end up doing heinous crimes. And maybe he is a fuckup, but isn't it the duty of a parent to help guide and nurture you children into becoming a disciplined and well mannered individual? I'm not saying it's all Jackie Chan's fault but him blaming his son for everything is so blind in so many ways I don't know how some people can't see it. If his son is a fuckup, Jackie Chan is as much of a fuckup with those basic ass justifications.
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020
He wasn't taught proper discipline by his parents, so of course he ended up a dropout; it's partly their own fault for raising him wrong. Also, doing weed shouldn't be a crime in the first place, that's just the law being shitty and criminalizing people who don't deserve it, so calling him a convicted criminal in a derogatory way as if he did something actually bad like rob or murder someone is just disingenuous.
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 a fuckup that could have been prevented if someone had spent more time with him, I wonder who could have.... perhaps the person who only spent 2 weeks per year with him when he was a child perhaps? Nah it can't be that having a father figure that constantly puts pressure on you, even indirectly, can cause immense stress, and it couldn't be that not having them around means not having someone they can ask for help in their time of need, could it?
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Having 100 grams of weed is not that bad. In other countries people smoke weed every day. He faced 6 months of jail on a public trail only because he was the son of a celebrity and they wanted to make an example out of him. and his own father threw him under the bus to protect his image
honestly the fact that jackie chan said about abuse that it is beneficial and then by neglecting his own son aka abuse blaming it on anything but that is insane.
That's literally common with Asian parents, abuse is necessary
@@DannyHsn doesn't really matter if it's normal or you count it as necessary becauze it really isn't
@@DannyHsn Abuse isn’t necessary, discipline is. They are two very different things
@@DannyHsn it depends on what level of abuse
If he broke something then yes sure but then forgive and they will learn there lesson
But Jaycee chan did nothing wrong and still emotionally abused or child neglect and mental abusement
Thats heavily wrong
what priviledged individuals will never realize is that a hard life really does have the tendency of shaping strong individuals, now im not talking about beating the living shit out of your kids or anything extreme but speaking from experience a cushy life can sometime create the worst people. Where do u think jackie got his insane work ethic from?
Man I feel bad for Jaycee. Growing up with a father who does nothing but put pressure on you to succeed, at what they choose and at the pace they expect, is incredibly demotivating. Don't even want to imagine what it's like when said father is Jackie freakin Chan.
i feel bad for anyone with that freemason logo
@atomictraveller My brother in christ it is a logo from a video game. Settle down
@@SilharaTheChosen oh yah that's all it is and ever was, wise up sucker
He knows nothing of Christ
I think his struggle isn't that bad
It's really ironic to see Jackie disapproving of Jaycee going into 'showbiz'. I understand the part about his mam having lost Jackie to it, but you can't expect your kid to not pursue the same career path you did because, essentially, you did it first. To then disown him instead of not being understanding of Jaycee is pretty poor form from Jackie.
It's a case of 'do what I say, not what I do'
They're actually right in this case because showbiz, over a normal life, hurt their family, and it's ruined a lot of lives in general.
A lot of stars, don’t want their kids to be in show biz, because it isn’t as fun as it looks.
What the western world fails to understand is that Jackie Chan is actually a complete cockhead. Ask a Hong Konger how they feel about their most famous entertainment export, they'll tell you.
You must've missed the point. Jackie Chan did it all by himself with discipline, while his son just wants to ride on his coattails. Most young people want to be some kind of artist and celebrity as it is but with children of rich and famous there's a whole other level of nepotism and laziness. If he has no talent or charisma like his father there's no point. the thing about "disowning" was all about his drug scandal anyway, clearly he was supportive and trying to push him ahead with his connections before. I don't even get why any average joe would be in favor of nepotism.
This is why I love sunny, he touches interesting topics like this that none of us would had delved in to otherwise
Why are daddy issues such an interesting topic? I thought you would have had enough by now.
@arggg Ok
@YeaMan 🤖🤖
@YeaMan No beep beep. Stop false advertising
Not more tragic than this 👉Dominion (2018)
Damn Jackie was ruthless. He barley raised his child being so absent, yet he abandons him and blames him for everything. Being rich is a curse and a blessing; strong relationships is what helps people develop.
I am pretty sure the Chinese government had a lot to do with these decisions. They are brutal about drugs. People get death sentences without a trial. No freedom of thought or speech. It’s just heartbreaking.
Tiananmen square did happen, I am pretty sure every Chinese citizen understands that.
I think he even has a daughter he disowned for her sexuality
Where are you getting this Information from?
as they should, i thought we would learn by now drugs can ruin peoples lives. i have sympathy for those who are willing to do it for money
@@robmarsh918 Etta Ng Chok-lam; he didn't disown her, it was a child out of wedlock back in the 90's so they're estranged, and they want nothing to do with each other. Knowing how terrible they treat drugs, you can assume how bad it was for the Chinese media to know that Jackie Chan had a secret affair.
China was tormented during the Opium War. Countries like Singapore also impose death penalty for tiny drug offenses, as it should be.
This reflects more on Jackie chan than the son or mother. It is always sad when you learn that your hero is not actually a... well, a hero in real life.
It’s be interesting if you could also do a video about Jackie Chan’s daughter who he had w a mistress. She is basically disowned and never acknowledged by Jackie Chan, and is living a tragic life in Canada now.
Wait, he has a daughter?
This is bullshit.
Jackie Chan had a daughter outside of wedlock, with a mistress. The mistress, in this case, left to raise her daughter away from all the drama of being the child of a celebrity's affair and refused to have anything to do with Jackie.
Later on, once things calmed down, she reached out and Jackie supported them financially, although their relationship never developed.
His daughter was groomed by a much older english teacher from Canada, Andi Autumn, who later became an influencer. This teacher eventually convinced her to come to Canada to marry her, which both Jackie and her mother were extremely opposed to and forbid her from doing. She felt that it was unfair that BOTH her parents didn't allow her to go to a foreign country to marry a much older woman, and ran away to Canada.
There, she and Andi Autumn married without the blessing of her parents, naturally, and once started to talk all sorts of shit on social media about Jackie Chan. Her mother and Jackie repeatedly tried to get her to come back to China, until eventually they cut her off financially.
She is still there, with her spouse, as far as I know.
Jackie Chan is not a good parent, and he was not a good husband either, but the whole situation with his dauther is not nearly as one sided as the media and many people who only read headlines seem to make it out to be.
@@naosou921 Ok so yes Jackit and the mother are bad people, but that teacher is ALSO bad. That is 100% a grooming pedo
@@naosou921 Damn, I had no idea it was a grooming situation, that's awful !
BRO WHAT?
Sadly this is not limited to China, it's an unfortunate facet of conservative Asian culture, case in point: Goro Miyazaki. Son of the famous animator: Hayao Miyazaki, had an upbringing similar to Jaycee, he was mostly raised by is mother, as Hayao travelled the world looking for inspiration for anime, and spent long hours away from home animating his content, so when Goro came of age he was pressured by his family, and Studio Ghibli itself to follow in his father's path. Goro spend long hours of crunch time, learning to draw and animate, it has been rumoured he was verbally and physically chastised, as this is seen as character building by conservative Asians, bullying and hazing is par for the course. Although Goro had a career in landscaping, Hayao, Studio Ghibli and its fans pressured him into a career he did not want to pursue, he was a Miyazaki, and was expected to succeed Hayao, unfortunately, like Jaycee, Goro had no enjoyed the same success as his father, with some of his films flopping at the box office, and critical ratings, with Earwig and the Witch being one of Studio Ghibli's least successful film. Whether it's east or west, fame is all the same, it comes at the cost of children born to celebrities, harassed into keeping their parent's fame alive at all costs, regardless of that child's choices and identity, basically, their image is more important than yours.
Yeah i heard about that after hearing about what went on in that situation i lost respect for hayao miyazaki love his films but im not a big fan of the guy himself
@@jskywalker58 imagine having respect for miyazaki in the first place.
@@Kaimax61You're just full of hot takes today aren't you?
There's a clip on RUclips of Hayao reacting to his son's first film. It's so depressing. Guy just walks out of the theatre and says that it's shit.
@The Grinch 🅥 FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP!
I understand Jaycee's pov more than his father's. I grew up with asian tiger parents who expected nothing but the best outcome. I feel pressured 24/7. There's no relax day and no dreams at all. I felt like a puppet on a string forced to play a role I never want to. My voice is basically gone. I was never listened to or asked what I really want. They only care about our image in front of other people. It's like as long as we look angelic to others, it doesn't matter if we suffer. I hate that so much. Now I'm 26. I've long left the place I used to call home. I still visit them but there's always this feeling of unwelcome because I wasn't up to all their expectations. I broke the cycle but it also broke our relationship. I wish I could say I'm happier now but I'm not. Somehow, stupidly I still hope that they could.. at least, just a little bit be proud of me.. maybe be proud of me that I'm still alive despite all the mental trauma they've put me through, despite all the suicidal thoughts.. and I'm still foolishly hoping..
I understand. My parents, especially my dad, are more controlling than others. I’ve been voluntold to do so many things without my input over the years. A lot of my opinions on certain things I’ve learned to keep to myself because they will be looked down upon with anger, irritation, or even mockery, just for speaking my mind.
Nowadays I think my parents are trying to work on it, but the damage has been done. When it comes to most matters in my life, I generally reserve them for myself unless my parents need to know. I know that a lot of my opinions and actions are not approved of by my parents, so I just keep them out of my business as much as possible.
I’m 27 now, and I have issues with feeling as though I belong, among other things, because I greatly lacked them in my upbringing. These struggles are not the sole fault of my parents, but they certainly contributed.
It’s not wrong for you to hope. Despite everything, it sounds like you still love your parents and want to have them in your life. I hope and pray that they acknowledge you for who you are and what you’ve been able to accomplish in life, even if it wasn’t what they wanted.
Godspeed to us both.
My wife's parents are like this, BUT they always expected her to fail, ironically, as she served in the army, then became a nurse, finished her masters, they STILL EXPECT MORE. lol.
This is why we keep keep our distance from them, they are endlessly toxic.
@@DaFroBroforeal I do. I really love them so much. But they make it so difficult for me to be around them.
@YuyuYui folks like you and my wife have my sympathy, my parents made it easy to write them off by abandoning me as a child, they did me a favor in the fact I don't even know if they are alive...and i really don't care.
Where as you will have to struggle with this, the constant push and pull of your heart strings.
I don't envy your position. I guess there are some benefits to being a dumpster baby. Lol.
These parents screw up their kids with their upbringing and then want to disown them when they grow up with issues.
Jackie Chan thanks his teacher.
His son never had a teacher.
Overall a sad story, but it’s good the son is moving on.
You should’ve talk about Jackie Chan’s illegitimate daughter. Now there’s a story.
Oh i have not heard that one before. I'm gonna look into that.
Can’t wait to hear that.
Yeah fatherhood was clearly not for Jackie Chan
@@Goodpizzaa its pretty sad and fcked up. Interesting read but very depressing
Jackie is many great things, but a father is not one of them
It's tragic to be a son who doesn't even get proper parenting and then gets disowned when he fails to live up to the absent parent's standards 😢
He have his mom, he have everything. He even fail to study. Its his fault, jackie grew up with nothing, you could see why Jackie have such high expectation for him.
He fail and then used drugs. Eventhough your father was a symbol for anti narcotic. You probally understand the disapointment in Jackie
@@unknowguy9642 Thinking like this is exactly what causes children to grow up and have these sorts of issues.
He didn’t get disowned bc he fail to live up. He was doing drugs.
And disown is a strong word since they reconcile ish.
@@unknowguy9642 Jackie had unrealistic expectations
I don't have a father figure too which is why my life is shitty 😢
You don't humiliate your son like that on television for the world to see, especially when you're the sole reason for the gripe you have.
Asian parents
@@alikhalikh-rx3ct china moment right there , you gotta sit on the CCP's Dick for that Credit , you gotta do what you gotta do
@@alikhalikh-rx3ct
*Talk to me when you Doctor!!!*
He would be a hypocrite if he doesn't support drugs, but is fine if his son does
actually it's good he did that, he forced his son to FACE UP to his mistakes. Rmb, turning or hiding from mistakes only makes it worse, especially when you're in the spotlight already.
Jaycee ultimately is an adult, he made adult decisions and there were consequences, it is that simple. Kudos to Jackie for not abusing his power to ease his son's punishment. In the comments, you can see too many celebrity worshippers that think it's normal for celebrites to get away with crimes, it's too normalized it's becoming scary, responsble parents don't indulge their children' crimes by cuddling them, they send them to institutions like Jackie did and in the long run, it helps, look at Jaycee today, if Jackie induldged Jaycee, where would Jaycee be today?
I was born in Eastern Europe in a communist country. Started working very young, working 12 hours, 6 days a week for 5-10% of what people in the west would call a low salary. Had to fight comunism, demons and a corrupt system that wants us dead, all just to survive. This being said my heart cries in pain when I hear about the tragedy of this milionare kid and his mega rich dad, that didn't get to enjoy all his dreams becoming a reality. I was worried about getting food but now I understand that fate shielded me of the real tragedies of life like not becoming a superstar, on top of life giving you one of the most privileged positions a human can have. Heart breaking, I tell you!
Also, 50 Cent is just as good of a father as Jackie. He was never there for his son, he left his wife raise him and now he blames the kid... The children education also falls on the shoulders of the father. A father is not just a provider, that's a slave master. A father is mentor, a guide, a support and a protector. It takes a new level of ignorance to throw money at your kid and expect them to grow into decent humans. 50 Cent and Jackie are both terrible fathers and terrible humans for blaming their kids for their inability to be real men and guide those children...
Low key shocked to hear what a bad father JC was/is. When a person comes across as so wholesome it is sometimes hard to accept that it's pretty much just a performance.
In Hong Kong, everyone knows Jackie Chan’s history. He is not well-liked in HK. Everywhere else, he has a great image
@@duperfat5646 Jackie is actually a horrible person
@@duperfat5646 why not liked in hong kong?
@@QuitebrokeN
they did love him but he turned his back on them, siding with China and scolding protesters.
@@theJACK__ Damn, never meet your heros I guess.
The way that Jackie has spoken about his son publicly, yea, you can tell there is a huge riff between the two.
Not speaking directly to the Chan family, as who knows what really goes on in the privacy of their family, but that's one thing I never understood about parenthood. People spend time regretting the hardships that they went through growing up, so they vow to themselves that their own children will never go through the same thing. Then when the child is living a life of comfort, the parents act surprised.
I dont say it to stick up for the younger generation, but they are the ones that need to be molded. They are living and viewing the world according to the rules that parents set forth. So if your son leaves his shoes wherever, guess who had the power to stop that.
My view is that experiencing a bad upbringing can be detrimental to parenting. For example, growing up with abuse might make you believe abuse is acceptable or normal, causing you to be more likely to inflict abuse yourself (which is why abuse victims are more likely to become abusers). For Jackie's case, perhaps the issue is that he thinks he's successful because of his bad upbringing rather than despite it, and that makes him think Jaycee is unsuccessful due to a lack of that bad upbringing.
If you've never seen how a good parent acts, what makes you think your vision of a good parent is actually good? Doesn't excuse his actions, but it explains it in a seemingly rational way imo. That being said, note that my personal bias is strong here. Reality is rarely so simple, but I think it's good to keep an open mind.
Man, it's nice to properly organize my thoughts with a comment.
@@jk-2053 Jackie used his circumstances to cultivate discipline and work to better himself. It's a difference of mindset, a difference of the lenses through which they each percieve the world, at its core.
Honestly I feel nothing but sympathy for him, he was raised this way and it's not his fault. Sons of famous or rich are doomed to fail in some way.
Bullshit
"Doom to fail" Only in comparison to their parents. Expectations is a bitch.
Exactly lmao all these people are triggered because they think because your rich your life is easy. Such self absorbed people.
@@ninosteam3007 well if you're raised in a rich household I'm pretty sure you're gonna compare yourself to your parents no matter what. if your parents flaunt their lifestyle to you and be like 'you need to end up like this' (which I feel like most rich parents do but I could be wrong) the kids are screwed
@@maiessalynae-ty8xn Yeah, it's not as if poverty, starvation and homelessness are far harder things to go through in life
How weird that I was just randomly thinking of this guy the other day due to a bit of sonder and then saw this. Someone quoted one of Jackie Chan's old movies and I ended up wondering about how his kid was doing after that scandal years back. I hope he keeps trying his hardest and doing his best despite his father's coldness. I know it hurts but he still got much more of a leg up than a lot of us, so he should make the best of it. I wish him and his future endeavors luck. He is his own man no matter what.
You should do one about his DAUGHTER. Now that one broke my heart more than Jaycee. He practically disowned her and it's just horrific. Just because he had a one night stand with a model, but doesn't consider his own daughter family.
How many members does he have ?!
Jackie's a terribel dude. Chinese don't like him for a reason
@@centurion_ratslayer 🤨
Has it been proven that the kid is his. Like DNA tests or anything cuz right now your just spitting bullshit
Everyone in Hong Kong knew for a fact that Jackie Chan was a deadbeat dad lol. He has a daughter from a non-marital relationship (aka. love child), but he kept denying the fact and left the mother and the daughter's life in chaos. The girl's name is Etta Ng Chok Lam and her tragic life barely gets mentioned in western media; there were reports that she has been on and off the psychic ward for suicidal thoughts. No surprise that his son also turned out like that.
It's unfortunate that Jaycee's potential and achievements were overlooked due to his father's success and reputation. He wasn't able to fulfill the expectations set by Jackie's legacy. However, we can hope that Jaycee's future brings him better fortunes and blessings
I think the worst problem is that he tried. His parents never wanted him to go to show business and if he listened he wouldn't have to fill any shoes
Bro this is a stolen comment but with just more words lol😂😂
Lmao “fortunes and blessings” 💀 Did you get that from your grandma’s facebook page? 😭
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You'll sell your channel eventually
@@hypocriticalgrammarnazi yeah I got it from her
That’s where my parenting style stops. My child should never suffer or be without just because I was. It’s up to me to teach him gratitude and respect.
This is something I see a lot in modern day Chinese family, as well as something I struggle with myself. When my parents tell me how much more drive they have when compared to me, they over looked the fact that they were fighting for their survival back then- their drive immediately relates to if they can have dinner that night, and it is a completely different pressure young Chinese are facing today. For a long time, despite having food and shelter, I still felt so lost. The cultural pressure to “succeed” in this society was immense yet abstract. And the horror of it is something seemingly completely lost on the older generation, who had already found their place in the world, and thus they chalk it up to laziness. It’s not about lazy. It’s about the the struggle with self-actualization.
Just last week, as I was working as a college entrance consultant for art school I saw one of our wealthiest, most educated client pressure her daughter to accomplish work that I seriously think simply impossible. When I asked for why, she answered that her experience from the cultural revolution had scarred her for life, and in a constant fear for death and starvation. So she wants her daughter to be able to create wealth to be able to avoid that life…. Note that her daughter plays dark soul all day to spend her time, draws fanart from time to time, and is so pampered that she can’t share bathroom with anyone else. This disconnect genuinely scared me.
Kind of sad seeing Jackie Chan being one of those parents who never spend time with their kids then get upset when their kids don't grow up to be exact copies of them.
If Jackie and his Jacyee's mum had helped Jaycee learn about music like he wanted from a young age I wonder how different this story might have been..
I feel bad for his son. I've seen cases in my personal life where neglectful fathers blame a child for lacking discipline without accepting any accountability. Jackie Chan has the means to raise his child however he wants, he van literally have a team of people dedicate their lives to shaping his sons character.
The comparison between his and his sons' upbringing is absurd. His own father was penniless while Joyce's father is a superstar.
You don't have to, his son got spoiled hard.
@@MincWWhaving a not absent father is better
@emmasmom5513 money will never be a replacement for fatherhood. Will a million dollars be there for life lessons and support?
Jackie literally said he takes full accountability for his son's actions for having been a bad father.
Ffs did no one actually watch the video?
@@redneckrambo9626yup comprehension is hard for most people. Jackie obviously took accountability and in his writing he’s clearly looking back and even thinking about what he could have or should have done as he drew comparisons with his own hard life. Yet some of these bots are demonizing him for “comparing”. She even feels pity for the son. Yet this soft sentiment towards a kid living a luxurious life is the exact type of mentality that created this weak failure of a man. As soon as you become an adult, you have no one to blame but yourself regardless of what situation you are in
This is a story about Jackie Chan's son.. But it feels like a story about JACKIE CHAN being a terrible father. Jackie Chan likely doesn't think of himself as a bad father, but rather sees his son as a spoiled brat. I feel like Jaycee's name itself is actually evidence of how self-important Jackie Chan feels towards himself.
Jaycee = JC = Jackie Chan
this is like saying a dad naming after himself and adding JNR connotes self importance. it is the same damn thing as JNR.
Not to mention Jackie Chan actually also formed 2 kpop boygroups and a Co-Ed group that did terrible and the first one was called JJCC. Not sure about the 2nd boygroup but the Co-Ed was called K-Tigers Zero.
Wait till you learn about the story of his daughter.
@@passbyicecube yeah she was disowned for being lesbian
his name in chinese is literally "ancestor's name" chan, or "ancestor's fame" chan. (the chinese character for "name" and "fame" are the same, and in mandarin the pronunciation is the same too and I only know mandarin, so I don't know which meaning its meant it to be haha)
Imagine having a father who doesn’t like or support you. Jackie Chan is probably unhappy because no happy and humble person speaks like that about anyone.
I can't be the only one who thinks his father set him up for failure.
The father allows his son to be spoiled, gives him no love, discipline or direction, in fact he as a role model is almost completely absent, then puts his son under immense pressure due to his notoriety and personal expectations while having no compassion and then completely abandons and publicly shames his son once he's struggling.
Dont judge bro
@@beatricenyarko5805 This is the Internet, judging is what we do best, bro.
*Yep. He failed his son and blamed him for his shortcomings as a father*
@@beatricenyarko5805 Take a stand bro, one way or another, you will feel like a person that lives in this world.
But you got to remember Jackie is 100% conservative traditional type of mindset. That's why he acted this way cutting all ties. They don't give 2 crap on Medical Marijuana, if illegal means illegal no question asked at all.
The first quote at the beginning says it all… having food as a child is not being spoiled. He’s a terrible father who threw away his son for his own image. I hope to see Jaycee continue on doing what he wants, and hopefully find success in his field. Beating your child down is the most pointless thing I can image. Doesn’t the world do that enough to us as it is?
doesn't want to follow his father footsteps but he pursued a career in the entertainment industry, what a genius
100%
He did have his mother though? Sure 2 parents are ideal but plenty of kids with single parents a lot lot worse than Jackie end up doing just fine in life. Can't blame the parents for everything
@@padarousou If one parent is a controlling ‘narcissist’ type, typically the other one is enabling the first. He probably had no support.
I don’t know, kid seems like a major fuck up. It’s not all Jackie’s fault, clearly. You seem like the type of person who takes no responsibility, and just blames your parents, or the world for all of your failures.
This man needs more love, creating such quality content on a weekly bases truly amazing
Shut up
3.37M subs is a pretty decent amount of love
I thought you were talking about Jaycee at first.
He gets millions of views per vid he uploads.
@YeaMan reported
Jackie Chan is worst than a missing father who left to buy milk at grocery store and never come back.
As someone of Chinese heritage I understand why Jackie Chan did the things he did, and his mindset is not that unusual among East Asian parents actually. When children don't work has hard as their parents expect them to (with the standards set by how hard they worked when they were young), accusations of being "lazy and ungrateful" are common, and this is an extreme example where fame and fortune amplified the problems that can come from this type of thinking.
Jackie thinks that by working hard and providing everything his kid (materially) needs he is properly loving his family and fulfilling his responsibilities as a father. And of course, he would feel disappointed when his son, despite having so many opportunities provided to him, chooses to behaves in a delinquent manner and squanders those opportunities, in stark contrast to what he did with much less.
I don't believe Jackie Chan was truly malicious at heart and that hated his son, but just horribly misguided as to how to properly raise Jaycee. I hope that they properly reconcile and that Jackie can realize his mistakes and make amends.
As much as Jackie Chan made mistake raising his son, at one point, Jaycee should have grown enough. We can't blame all of these to Jackie Chan, Jaycee needs to grow up and he never did.
Agreed. I think the “blame everything on the parents” is very much a modern white American way of looking at things, largely because of their need to feel like a victim.
That said, Jackie Chan still did a poor job as a father. I think too many Asian parents in the past few decades have been only emphasizing success while not teaching proper values, leading to the infamous “Little Emperor” syndrome. It’s led to the creation of too many spoiled and useless young men.
he only had some weed, who cares? this is not even a proper crime
That's some good insight, thanks for commenting this
@@Account-br9kc China is paranoid with drugs for a little thing called The Opium Wars. When Mao reached power, a large part of the Chinese population were drug addicts.
While Jackie's life was definitely tough, I can't say Jaycee's life was easy either. Having an absent father is an extremely painful thing especially for young boys (even though society pretends this isn't a real issue) and its even worse when he is alive but disinterested. I feel bad for Jaycee.
Not to mention when Jackie didn't even try to help him when he got into trouble. I understand if it was in America, but it's in China. You can be sentenced to death for having weed there. It isn't some light sentence. Of course he did end up having a light sentence thanks to who his dad was but still, at the time you didn't know what would happen.
@@fallenbee Why would he help him? He was a grown adult that should've been responsible for his own actions.
@@r3L4k5 it's literally just weed. just because a law is in place doesn't mean it's a good one.
Not to mention that's his child? Idk, I don't trust you if you would let your child be possibly sentenced to death for something as simple as weed.
@@r3L4k5 I also don't trust you if you value your reputation to the media more than your child 💀
@@r3L4k5 IFKR. the amount of people BABYING HIM and cutting him slack while he’s a fucking adult acting like a child is fucking pathetic and disgusting. an adult should know right from wrong.
As someone who has lived in my father's shadow and gave up trying to make a name for myself in the same industry shortly after my teenage years, I respect Jaycee's tenacity. What a ruthless life to live.
Can I please suggest you something? You may feel free to ignore it if you wish and I promise that I do not mean to say this out of malice or evil. But could you perhaps reconsider and take another route different from your father's? I think it would be much more relaxing for you. Not that you can't do it and be successful (I'm sure you must be very capable) but to avoid all of the mental strain and second guessing and anguish. I hope and pray the best for you and everyone in this situation. In Sha Allah Ameen. Please do forgive me if I offended you, I am really sorry if it did.
@@syedarizvi7290 this actually very good idea, but OP must ready for his father opinion if his father say what he did is below or etc
Just do what you want but also be wise on what career to do, because some career not going to paying bills
@@vonn2221 Thank you. I just wanted to help and I'm glad it didn't sound bad
@@syedarizvi7290 ameen :)
Was your dad Taylor swift by any chance swifty ?
Remember when you were a kid being jealous of your heroes kids thinking they were so lucky? Boy how wrong we were.
Jackie Chan's daughter (whom he had with his mistress) had an even more worse and sad life than his son. Sunny should talk about her next.
i'm intrigued, i would like to know more, what a nasty man jackie is, i don't like him anymore, he's as cold as ice like my dam father smh
bro i was looking for this comment
As a father, it is our responsibility to make our kids life more easier.We might went through hard times to accomplish things but that doesn't mean they have to walk the same way as we did.
Agreed. There are ways to teach life lessons without people having to suffer to learn. His parents should have done more to raise a person that they could be proud of.
As a father, you shouldn't coddle the child. But just remind the child that he had a better chance of becoming better than you were, whatever path they'll take.
very well said
This comment is real. To be honest, the kids didnt even asked to be born. Parents want kids to be their successor of an empire they build or to carry on their genes but at the end no kid asked to be born. Its parents responsibility to give and teach their kids. Kids arent supposed to be given or expected an ultimatum on their behavior to be like their parents
Weak parents, strong children.
Strong parents, weak children.
As a son, one of the hardest thing to accept is being lectured by your father when he’s a serial womaniser and unfaithful to your mother.
This outcome is frankly, unsurprising. Do hope Jaycee finds his purpose in life.
What??????? He is such a person in reality??? For real???
@@pikachue602 Obviously not first person account here. But it’s widely reported in the media. Probably not all of it true but can’t be all false.
@@pikachue602 Jackie Chan only married Jaycee's mom so he can divert the attention from his womanising. Jackie Chan got caught cheating multiple time, it was especially public he knocked up another actress. His word was "I only made a mistake what every men will do", he never accepted the child because she is a girl. Jackie Chan only has a good image outside Hong Kong and Mainland China.
Professionally, he was a guest of honor in a concert. He showed up drunk and late, audience had enough of it, he started cursing and making a scene on stage. I would say this is worse than Justin Bieber drunk puking on stage.
@@haoye2413 and this is why blind celebrity worship is dumb. You never know what these people are truly like behind cameras
@@walkingtree2486 Celebrity obsession is the biggest disease in the world. More than diabetes and Blood pressure.
This is not a tragedy, this is actions and consequences now he is on the right path and wish him all the best
That one moment when he needed his father the most... the moment when it was family vs public opinion... the moment when simple growing up of a child in a normal family is taken away... Jackie threw him under the buss instead of teaching him the most important lessons. Jackie has to learn as much as his son if not more, sad.
While you're right, we're also talking about China here where if he defended his son, more trouble could start brewing. Jackie Chan isn't a good father but there's nothing he could do there unless he wants the whole family to be run into the ground in China
While I understand the public statements that Jackie Chan made, I don't agree with not being present at the trial. It was the least he could do and no one would blame him for it. Goes to show Jackie Chan was really upset by his son's actions. Glad they seemingly reconciled though.
Jaycee's letter also shows that he was mature enough to own up to his mistakes which was not what I expected out of a spoiled child. Hope he does well.
@@augustinelau6053 Honestly for a movie star's son, nothing that was pointed out by Sunny or Jackie in this video makes me think Jaycee was particularly spoiled. The fact that his needs were met and he didn't have the discipline to take care of his belongings, that he didn't perform well in school and got mixed up in drugs, sounds a lot like my own upbringing in middle class America. I understand Jackie wanting his son to appreciate the gifts his career afforded him, but seeing his dad more than two weeks a year when he was growing up would have done far more for his development and well being as an adult than any amount of wealth and luxury.
For Jackie to then disown his son when his beloved dictatorship is making a public mockery of him over a relatively tame drug charge really shows how little interest he had in being a good father.
Collectivism vs individualism
Also,
I don't know what kinda of drugs Jaycee was using, thinking that flying to hongkong is "wasn't trying to be his dad", when he ended up in the acting industry anyway.
Agreed with this comment. Family first in my op.
Now I understand why my parents were always so hard on me, they didn’t want me to go though the struggles Jaycee went through, I’m glad he’s turned his life around.
NOOOOOO!!!! YOU HAD ABUSIVE PARENTS YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY ABUSE!!!-some random people who think they aren't obliged to do anything for their parents and their parents are obliged to leave them alone while supporting them financially.
You should not expect overly bearing parents to be good parents either! Because here is the opposite extreme: a successful offspring with much resentment on parents, and high risk of offspring cutting ties or communication with parents for not giving the emotional support they needed.
@@pws354_8 this is very very true.
Disowning a son you only spent 2 weeks a year with is crazy
My father was not famous and not nearly as rich as Jackie Chan, but he was always busy with his career when I was growing up.. and 90% of what he said to me when he started a conversation with me was that I was not good enough and he thinks I was lazy and did not work hard enough in school.. It just felt like he wasnt proud of me at all and even ashamed of having a kid like me. It caused me great mental stress and even to this date, I feel a bit anxious being around him, yes he would still criticize his 30 yr old already married son for the smallest things. However looking back, Id have to admit I was not mentally strong, I took his words too seriously and I let all his opinions get into me, its my life and its about what I want to do and live instead of earning his recognition. I still managed to finish University with Engineering degree and started my career with it, never touched any drugs and never drink much too. The big lesson I learned is that nobody is going to change for you, and nor should they, you get what you get thats life, try to appreciate the good things in life more and learn to deal with the bad stuff. Most important thing is, dont take youself too seriously and never stop fighting for what you want.
I hope things go well for him in the future as he really doesn't seem like a bad person or anything
Yeah. Clearly.
Basically no body caring about you.
Yep just getting rejected.
@Patrick39 Fatherless energy
Not more tragic than this 👉Dominion (2018)
I sincerely feel bad for Jaycee here. Raised with a golden spoon and all of a sudden asking him to build a life of his own is not easy for him or anyone in that matter. I wish him the best in life.
Raised with a golden spoon and all of a sudden feeling envious of the one giving him the golden spoon
@@george_MF_washington finally someone with sense
@@george_MF_washingtonWhile the said provider not only cheated on his wife but also only saw his son 2 weeks per year as well as naming the said son his abbreviation...but I guess Jaycee is the only at fault because being rich fixes problems...surely.
while the son is swimming in money. What a first world problem!@@lunadead
I feel Sad for Jaycee. What people don't realize is that he is just an average kid like all of us. Even if He is being shown undisciplined, the people who are reacting to it are just the same as him. He has been overshadowed by his father's work so much that people imagine him being just like him. I really feel sad cuz if he was not popular, then he would have been the the same as us. Appreciating things like normal people, I hope he gets his personal space. Otherwise, he will just come off as a bad person. And the worst about it is that the people who will be judging him will be the same but they don't have any better work.
you will not feel bad or feel sad for Jaycee if you actually follow his story. Jackie Chan and His family are not really well cover in western media, so Sunny can't find that good of a source. Most material of Jackie Chan's family are in paper form in chinese, let just say the story is a much jucier than Kardashian "act" to be.
yes, a kid with the golden opportunity with tremendous backing by his parents that said he wanted to be different from his dad but is a hypocrite because he didn't cared the slightest about pursuing other career path which is the wish of his parents (doctor, lawyer, etc) and then contradict his own words pursuing a career in the entertainment industry.
Jaycee didn't care for shit, parents paid for 1st year tuition? fuck that imma skip class and create a feral living environment living away from parents and pursue music
Average kid? More like average rich kid
Seems like he's finally got infamous for this - keep it up Jaycee! Must be tough living in Jackie's shadow, he is a legend afterall.
Jackie attributing a lot of his success to the abuse be dealt with is so insane.
There is a middle ground between abuse and spoiling. You don't have to be beat with a cane to learn discipline. The most important part is having someone in the house to teach them that
Plus there are tons of people who go through the same thing and end up shitty on the other side, like Jackie who is emotionally cold and abusive.
Alot of people go through that and use drugs to deal with the trauma.
Jackie needs to draw him closer.
@@PepTalkTillYouDrop Yes, I can't help but wonder if he will be full of regret when he is on his deathbed. Or what if something happens to his son? It would probably hurt his pride soo much that he would push it away
@@brettness1416 different kinds of discipline can work for different people some learn better from negative reinforcement(beatings etc.) Or positive reinforcement(rewards etc.) My bet is to have a middle ground reward them for doing good and berate them when they make a mistake(not a small mistake) that way they have an incentive to do better and are discouraged from doing wrong
Not everyone the same. Fact that this method worked for Jackie doesn't mean it would too to others. He just brushed off Jaycees concern and feeling. Not everyone wants the same thing as u.
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking
Both Jaycee and Jackie come from completely different worlds. Jackie is a great guy, but its obvious he was never suited to be a great dad. Some people no matter how inspirational just dont make good parents because they cant find the time to be both a positive public figure, and positive parental role model. On one hand, I sympathize with Jaycee.
As an asian myself raised by Tiger parents, i know how high expectations are for the kids. Jaycee's father being THE Jackie Chan certainly made things about 10X harder than it already is. He has much to live up to, and anything negative he does is much more likely to catch the public eye, giving him even less space to make mistakes and grow as his own person. And on the other hand, we can't really blame Jackie either. He is famous because of his great acting skills, his notorious propensity to do most of the dangerous physical stunts himself, his strong discipline in mastering kungfu, and his energy both on and off screen, and his absolutely madlad hardworking attitude. The man grinded himself to the bone to make sure that the miserable life he knew in his childhood is something his kid never had to experience.
But in the end, some things just cant ever balance out. Being rich and famous means you never want for anything, but it also means an extreme amount of pressure on both father and son to uphold their careers and how they look in the public eye. Its a curse and blessing, and we as outsiders looking in, can't do or say anything to change the situation. Its all the same for every celebrity and their kids.
just because you are with the family all the time, don't necessarily mean you will be a great parent either.
obviously, Jackie's wife was with his son all the time, yet was a terrible mother.
Jackie is a horrible dude who chests on his wife
He is a pos. Look into how he cheated and had a daughter and never considered his own blood.
How can you say Jackie Chan is a great guy and a bad parent? You can't be both. The fact that he disowned his biological daughter makes him a total douchebag.
@@mikemike5223 two former South Korean Presidents "Kim Young Sam" and "Kim Dae Jung" did exactly the same thing. They ignored daughters that they had out of wedlock. Yet they called themselves Human Rights activists and warriors of justice.
Its hard to live in the shadow of really successful dad
Imagine if everything you ever worked for didn’t matter because it could just be given to you
@@mellowwbeats7918 how awful lol
@@rotonek2887 It would be awful if all your achievements meant nothing lol. Jackie cutting out Jaycee from his life was the best thing for Jaycee
Especially if that dad was a total prick in real life
He didn't have to. He could have picked any career other than entertainment.
a legendary actor but a terrible father to his children. its such a shame and so sad.
As an adult you have control of your future and dealing with childhood trauma. That doesn’t negate the fact it happened though. How can you complain about a child you didn’t even raise? What did you expect? No guidance, no attention, not even any signs of love. Just material things. It’s no wonder he followed the path he did.
It’s good that he’s getting his life together. I honestly wish the best of luck to him.
Goes to show the importance of needing a consistent father figure
That illustrate in the thumbnail is so beautiful
I like how Jackie recognizes how he played a major part in how he turned out. Not disciplining him or being there as a father. But yet still disowns him over using weed as an antidepressant, which it is prescribed for…
There are plenty of clinically approved antibiotics with years of evidence of medical efficacy than drug use lmao.
China has a very different view on things such as medicine and drugs, especially "western" ones (likely a bit due to the whole Opium wars...), and Jackie comes from that generation that grew up during the "rise" of the CCP and their draconian laws around things like this. It's easy to understand why he has views like this, and they do make sense for someone of his generation, culture, and upbringing to express.
You can't judge a man on not having experienced something or having experienced something else.
@@DaemonicRenamon To be honest I find it extremely hard believing Jackie Chan was never once exposed to any drugs as an actor in the 70s/80s. People were powdering their noses every 5 minutes.
@@DaemonicRenamon100% you make total sense and your explanation is very rational.
@@dankerbooper he dont even have 5 minutes for drugs dude . Have you seen the video ? he doesn't even have more than 2 weeks per year for his family lmao