I was expecting more from this. It’s kind of a stuck in a middle ground where it doesn’t commit to either proper dark humour or complete silliness. Feels safe, which given the cast and crew, is a bit of a shame.
Agree- reminded me of Logan lucky. Not a drama, not a comedy. In between trying to be both but is neither. Was nowhere near as funny as I expected from coogan and winterbottom.
I just watched it on Starz - it starts out as a comedy but gets more serious which is great because rich powerful men trying to break down controls that protect the poor is pretty serious - I liked it and I loved the climax
We need more of this kind of thing. So much of the luxury we have comes from the suffering of others. Clearly just telling people about it doesn't work, making it entertaining might be a way of changing behaviour. I'm a strong supporter of fair trade and I can't think of a single instance in the past 15 years where I have explained about slavery in the chocolate industry and somebody had said that's terrible I won't by chocolate that might involve slavery from now on. And I'm talking about literal child slavery where people are buying and selling children to pick cocao.
I'd be interested in finding out more about this too Ben, and specifically which companies were involved. I did find out a little about the sugar industry about 20 years ago. I remember Tate & Lyle had come out terribly when looking into their history of sugar plantations, slave labour, abusive policies etc which were still occurring at that time (I don't know if they've improved since then). I'm sure they are not alone in exploitation in the sugar industry. Some of the biggest corporate names (Coca Cola, Nestlé etc) all still have terrible records of greed, exploitation and using political and physical muscle in third world countries to keep profits rolling in.
It shows capitalism at the extreme excessive end but its happening everywhere not just in high street clothes retailing......fair enough if its your business make loads of money but how about sharing some of the wealth with your team? Theres only so much you can do sitting on your millions or even billions....what good is that doing for one person?
Ask yourself why little or no movies have portrayed the gap between Eastern workers and the Western millionaires/billionaires whose products they make. Because cinema, including Sony Pictures who made this movie, is run by the big corporations who use that Eastern labour. In the UK, we have the minimum wage, benefits. Yet we don't use our power to get a fair deal for workers across the world. We should we shaming the likes of Marks and Spencer for producing clothing in Bangladesh for a fraction of the cost. Maybe it helps Bangladesh - but how dare companies pretend to be classically British who are not?
I was hoping this was going to be rated higher, because I'm a big David Mitchell fan from both Peep Show and QI.im not sure if he's been in more more movies.
I don't think the central character is likeable at all. Anyone who is willing to accumulate that much money, by very questionable means, whilst extorting other human beings and anything/everything that gets in his way, I think he's despicable. A good film, which shows that billionaires aren't nice people. No one makes that sort of money by being honest and a 'nice person'.
David Mitchel should have pĺayed the 'main' character. It would have improved the film a million %. The more he finds out about Coogan's character, the more appalled he becomes, then he wrestles with his conscience, then the truth comes out.
Because Sony's name - and certainly Disney's name - would/should be on the list. Any company that heavily uses Eastern labour is likely to be using very poorly paid labour. Trouble is, these workers / factories produce some good quality stuff but they don't get fairly paid for it.
@@doswillrule Ha... yes I have listened to that now. Kermode was being as polite as possible while making clear that he did not overly like Cornish's film! "I did not dislike it." Great stuff.
@@Epicurus341 Sometimes I find his background knowledge of past films very insightful. I guess I never considered it from the point of view of someone who actually made the film - they don't want it to be compared to Mark's choice of yardstick comparator movie! :D
I saw it tonight the lookalikes were funny and that CGO lion can act great but not a comedy, as a social commentary yeah a little bit overall I would say 5 out of 10. In saying that something needs to be done about income inequality. Bernie 2020
Economic ignorance, what if these jobs are better than cleaning streets or something hazardous? Kermode sounds like a teenager. All work in a developing economy will look exploitative from a Western POV.
think people like Richard Branson, and Philip Greene got away with it for 15 years under labour. Can't blame the tories. but you can blame everyone collectively.
I was expecting more from this. It’s kind of a stuck in a middle ground where it doesn’t commit to either proper dark humour or complete silliness. Feels safe, which given the cast and crew, is a bit of a shame.
George Lewis where did you watch this?
DayTripper cinema...
Agree- reminded me of Logan lucky. Not a drama, not a comedy. In between trying to be both but is neither. Was nowhere near as funny as I expected from coogan and winterbottom.
I just watched it on Starz - it starts out as a comedy but gets more serious which is great because rich powerful men trying to break down controls that protect the poor is pretty serious - I liked it and I loved the climax
Went to a Q&A with Coogan last night. Really enjoyed the film, and think Winterbottom gets better with age.
I would've liked to have disliked Coogan's character a lot more but he's just too likeable.
This is the most positive negative review I've ever heard.
I didn't even realise it was a negative review until I read your comment.
I think i know what you mean. Sounds like he wants to like and commend it more than he really can
We need more of this kind of thing. So much of the luxury we have comes from the suffering of others. Clearly just telling people about it doesn't work, making it entertaining might be a way of changing behaviour. I'm a strong supporter of fair trade and I can't think of a single instance in the past 15 years where I have explained about slavery in the chocolate industry and somebody had said that's terrible I won't by chocolate that might involve slavery from now on. And I'm talking about literal child slavery where people are buying and selling children to pick cocao.
Hello Ben could you please link me to a good generalised article or video about that? Thanks
I'd be interested in finding out more about this too Ben, and specifically which companies were involved. I did find out a little about the sugar industry about 20 years ago. I remember Tate & Lyle had come out terribly when looking into their history of sugar plantations, slave labour, abusive policies etc which were still occurring at that time (I don't know if they've improved since then). I'm sure they are not alone in exploitation in the sugar industry. Some of the biggest corporate names (Coca Cola, Nestlé etc) all still have terrible records of greed, exploitation and using political and physical muscle in third world countries to keep profits rolling in.
@@seanduffield5432 there was a documentary on it about 10 years ago. But I'll find some online articles and link a bit later
@@everything777 Look up Tony's Chocolate too, they're really passionate about the ethics of their supply chain
@@samtrotter7177 I'm in Amsterdam for work all the time. I always take some home for my kids 😊
You mean phillip green right?
It shows capitalism at the extreme excessive end but its happening everywhere not just in high street clothes retailing......fair enough if its your business make loads of money but how about sharing some of the wealth with your team? Theres only so much you can do sitting on your millions or even billions....what good is that doing for one person?
Ask yourself why little or no movies have portrayed the gap between Eastern workers and the Western millionaires/billionaires whose products they make. Because cinema, including Sony Pictures who made this movie, is run by the big corporations who use that Eastern labour. In the UK, we have the minimum wage, benefits. Yet we don't use our power to get a fair deal for workers across the world. We should we shaming the likes of Marks and Spencer for producing clothing in Bangladesh for a fraction of the cost. Maybe it helps Bangladesh - but how dare companies pretend to be classically British who are not?
why are you always out of focus in a world of 4K
I was hoping this was going to be rated higher, because I'm a big David Mitchell fan from both Peep Show and QI.im not sure if he's been in more more movies.
i'll only watch this if the philip green character is decapitated in yachting accident at the end of the movie.
Wow this film was savage I loved it just depends on if you can enjoy a dark joke
based on 24 hour party people and the look of love , it has to be worth a watch
Jeezus are they remaking Erich Von Stroheim movies now? 😜
Hehe nice
I don't think the central character is likeable at all. Anyone who is willing to accumulate that much money, by very questionable means, whilst extorting other human beings and anything/everything that gets in his way, I think he's despicable. A good film, which shows that billionaires aren't nice people. No one makes that sort of money by being honest and a 'nice person'.
The central character isn't supposed to be likeable, and doesn't have to be (see for example Breaking Bad)
Alan Partridge, with loads of money.
Very channel 4s Comic Strip films then
David Mitchel should have pĺayed the 'main' character. It would have improved the film a million %. The more he finds out about Coogan's character, the more appalled he becomes, then he wrestles with his conscience, then the truth comes out.
They wanted to list evil exploiting capitalists but Sony got cold feet at the last minute.
Because Sony's name - and certainly Disney's name - would/should be on the list. Any company that heavily uses Eastern labour is likely to be using very poorly paid labour. Trouble is, these workers / factories produce some good quality stuff but they don't get fairly paid for it.
@Bilbo Baggins unfairness is like pornography, as described by a judge: " you may struggle to define it, but you know it when you see it."
I almost feel this film would’ve made a better limited series, too many themes crammed into too short a time
Isn't the plural of connundrum, connundra? Use it in a sentence today!
i loved this film! Thought it was very well done, really funny and eye opening
Have they not removed the statistics at the end? Read that in a different review or article.
Sony forced them to replace the original stats about specific businesses with more general ones
this movie is a great social manifest.kinda strange y this film did not get any award
I thought it was great.
oh BBC.That screenblind displaying the Radio 5 live logo looks creased and stained.
Coogan is a genius, Cohen is a pretty reasonable hack.
I didnt know this was coming out. I think they kinda knew.
Good movie 4.5 out of 5 yet it only gets 2 stars ⭐️ on NOW TV
Have the Witters ever interviewed someone for a film, before Kermode absolutely slams it?? Just wondering.
Joe Cornish was in the room when Mark savaged his film Attack the Block. They had a lively discussion, to say the least...
@@doswillrule Ha... yes I have listened to that now. Kermode was being as polite as possible while making clear that he did not overly like Cornish's film! "I did not dislike it." Great stuff.
@@Epicurus341 Sometimes I find his background knowledge of past films very insightful. I guess I never considered it from the point of view of someone who actually made the film - they don't want it to be compared to Mark's choice of yardstick comparator movie! :D
@@Epicurus341 Ouch… I'm going to watch that as well now, thanks.
@@Epicurus341 Two-thirds is not bad. I am a big fan of Mark but making your own mind up is important. I need to try and do that more!
Kermode marks Michael's winter bottom. I'll show myself out.
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It’s a terrible film.
Yes, if you see it as just a film for entertainment. It is a satire + documentary on real tragedy.
Why would I pay to watch a movie that is not structurally sound?
Was trainspotting structurally sound? Or pulp fiction?!?
Yes
@@tornari Agreed
You don't have to
Haven't seen the film it looks like a bad version of Wolf of Wall Street
the first film critic who passes judgement before he sees the film ! You might start a trend
@@stevenaustin8274 I said it LOOKS LIKE
Wolf Hound Dog you haven’t LOOKED at it
@@stevenaustin8274 WOW I MEAN REALLY...... WOW
Wolf Hound Dog just writing it caps is not a good look believe me
unwatchable
Is there any British film not featuring Steve Coogan? Give somebody else a go FFS.
a) yes there’s loads of films
b) steve coogan is great, leave him alone
It’s a disappointing film over all with no real fresh point to it. “Selfish rich men bad” is nothing new.
Cannot abide Coogan - perfectly cast to play unlikable people. His last TV chat show series was awful.
you mean the chat show where he played right wing caricatural alter-ego Alan Partridge?
thegentleassassin well played 👍🏻
thegentleassassin and I prefer Partridge to Coogan.
@@zaprese as a person or as a character?
I saw it tonight the lookalikes were funny and that CGO lion can act great but not a comedy, as a social commentary yeah a little bit overall I would say 5 out of 10. In saying that something needs to be done about income inequality. Bernie 2020
Economic ignorance, what if these jobs are better than cleaning streets or something hazardous? Kermode sounds like a teenager. All work in a developing economy will look exploitative from a Western POV.
get to the bloody point! does he get paid on word amount?
3/5. now go and watch tik-tok clips
Tories
think people like Richard Branson, and Philip Greene got away with it for 15 years under labour. Can't blame the tories. but you can blame everyone collectively.
@@freefalling2earth yeah... ..i suppose youre right ie all greedy bastards - just a different colour lol
Sigh. This review brought to you by the people that hid Jimmy Saville's activities for decades.
Captain Dallas not entirely sure that particular wrong can be laid exclusively at the door of Mark Kermode
The cover up was Kermode and Kermode alone.
CrossingThe Rubicon Guilty until proven Innocent.
Edge-lord
I thought sir jim's charity fun-runs were common knowledge?
I think he analyses far too much. Back in the day he would probably have tried to find serious in depth meanings to Carry On films
I used to really respect kermode. The film is brilliant, very clever, funny and deep. Jesus
Ponce
Perfumed ponce
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Is this still a thing?