NT Wright: Can Jesus be the Lord of our politics?
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2024
- NT (Tom) Wright is Senior Research Fellow at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford University. Tom has written extensively on Jesus, Paul and early Christianity and his work has been hugely influential across the world. As well as his notable academic career Tom has also served in the Church of England in various roles, including as bishop of Durham from 2003-2010.
Belle and Justin talk to Tom about his new book, co-authored with Mike Bird - Jesus And The Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terror and Dysfunctional Democracies. How can we re-enchant 21st Century politics with the 1st Century vision of Jesus as Lord?
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I will definitely be reading Wright’s new book. The Church needs to reflect more on the Principalities and Powers, which are inevitably political.
I use to quite admire NT in his day, but it sounds like he has gone full-on-facist in his dotage.
Liberal democracy is wonderful
We elect God these days - much better
Appreciate the wisdom of Tom Wright. However, as a minority American who studied with him at St. Andrews, I think his Anglicanism becomes a foreign window into American politics that doesn't quite fit the narrative here. The American Christian narrative is to be weary of the state, and the so-called separation of church and state was intended to protect religion from the tyrannical power of the state. While the Anglican UK tradition is to "accept" and conform to the power of the state as it is married to politics, the American tendency is to curb the political state by limiting its powers. American Christians are leery of political utopian promises that come in Marxist flavors on account of that narrative. Not saying, the narrative is correct, just describing it.
Exactly. Wright expresses the eschatological stance of amillennialism/postmillennialism. It is what justified the bishops' collusion with the Roman Imperium beginning in the fourth century and resulted over the generations in state churches.
In so doing, the official church became a tool of social conformity with the state providing the sword of coercion.
The gospel to some extent lost its inherent countercultural assertion that true justice will arrive only when Christ returns in glory. Whether it be St. Paul or Irenaeus, the older understanding is that maxim that 'power in this age is a corrupting influence' and is impelled by spiritual forces of darkness. Even when reform comes, oppression and expropriation will grow from its seeds.
But, the majority of believers then as now live lives of simple faith, love, and good works to help their neighbors. Regardless of the policies of the official church hierarchies.
For me (American Evangelical) the crisis now is Christian Nationalism, or any nationalism in Christ’s multi-ethnic Church. Indeed, that is why I could never be “Anglican.” The Principalities & Powers are pushing Catholics and Evangelicals to conflate Church & State instead of keeping them separate, for Christ’s Kingdom is not of this world. Our culture wars are rebellion against Jesus’ warning “Do not lord it over others like the Gentiles do.” Authoritarianism coupled with nationalism and pseudo-Christianity is a dangerous combination that cannot “make disciples of every nation.”
Amazing theology by Tom. Thank you 😊
May your subscribers grow quickly 🙏
Augustine wrote The City of God in the same spirit, did he not? Indeed, the Roman Catholic church has gathered 2000 years of wisdom; I am reading the catechism at the moment.
At least Trump talks about Jesus and desires for America to have freedom of religion! Opposite of Democrat leadership.
Taking the name in vain isn’t a good thing.
Freedom of religion means the government isn’t shoving it down your throat in public schools.
As a descendant of Friends and Catholics on one side and Puritans on the other, the state endorsing one religion always means persecution of all other religious groups.
The guy who promised a “Muslim Ban” isn’t for freedom of religion.
God Bless Donald Trump.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below?
Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9.
If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Is the Bible really a reliable test, though?
The New Testament was assembled centuries after the events in Jerusalem, and the people that assembled it had a… relationship with the political power of the Roman Empire that likely affected what was and was not chosen for inclusion.
Be wary of making an idol out of the words, they are often confused for the Word that was with God and the Word that was God.
There’s a historical reason to go back to the text as a way to deconstruct the cultural baggage, but the text itself is not God, especially not a translation of events that took place in a culture we would see as truly foreign.
@@Justanotherconsumer Pyparus fragment P52 is from a Codex copy of John's Gospel and has been dated during the first half of the second century. (circa 125 AD) The man who recorded it could have known the Apostle John.
@@SpotterVideosure, but who chose to include that and why that one?
There have been many variants of eschatology, why is that one the one that was chosen?
The section on the Middle East came across to me as too much both-sidesism, numb to pain, devoid of compassion for those suffering, in tune with an oft broadcast narrative, distorting the true character of recent protests and evasive of UK complicity. NTW has spoken very differently on Apartheid in South Africa.
Not allowed to openly criticize a certain country’s politics or you’ll be labeled.
No. Jesus was no politician.
Well, that isn't quite right
He’s clearly NEVER reading the red and blue books right on the top shelf is he…. 📚
The concern here is basically that Trump’s supporters do not care about theology.
Theology is just an excuse to support what they want to do anyway, good old Divine Sanction… marketing.
Some believe but it’s a purely transactional affair where they comply because they expect a reward or expect to avoid punishment.
Acting justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly with the one who has already given so much out of gratitude is a foreign concept.
To be frank, if one cares to read the Bible: there is Elohim killing every man woman and child at Sodom (Genesis 19:24),ordering the ripping the unborn from their mother's womb (Hosea 13:16) slowly killing Beshebas's baby (2 Samuel 12 17) killing the Firstborn (Exodus 12:29) putting to death women, children and infants (1 Samuel 15:3), has 2 She bear kill boys (2 Kings 2:24), killing Jobs children (Job 1: 19) and all the other tales of God killing children
Yes, former President Trump seems to be a kitten in comparison to Jesus.
NT Wrong 😂😂😂
To be fair: his world view includes talking snakes, virgin births and vampires. Perhaps even stolen elections.
Not a very credible source on things religious
N. T. Wright who?
has heard of Lewis but this guy....
Do some googling, he’s fairly well known.