Jordan Peterson's Thoughts On Orthodox Christianity
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Orthodox Christianity is the original church the authentic
fake
@@donhaddix3770more fake than the speaking in tongues?😂
Original none christian church you mean 😂
Plus some paganism.
It cannot be original as it has no papacy that was part of the church from the very beginning. Churches that are in union with the pope can claim it..orthodoxy has detached itself from papacy as they the East had an issue with Rome being the centre.
Being Orthodox is the hardest thing in the world but the most rewarding.
so you are orthodox. not hard, just follow orthodox rules. do not ask questions, just blindly accept.
That's the entire point! The path is narrow and thorny, as Christ said. We have no place in the world. The difficulty of being an Orthodox Christian and not changing the faith to suit yourself better is why Orthodoxy is true.
@@one_step_sideways when said, orthodoxy and rcc did not exist. it is not the narrow path.
@@one_step_sideways orthodoxy is not biblical. it did not exist 1st century.
@@donhaddix3770it has apostolic succession. And these guys literally were the first ones with the Bible cause they were selecting the Canon of the biblical Books.
In Greece we say "everyone carries his own cross", he is right
It is a saying in Serbia also.
Bulgaria too
Lots of Greeks are leaving Greek churches and going to some other Orthodox churches.
Romania too.
@@crnicrni7515you are wrong
True! Greetings from Orthodox Serbia!❤💙🤍☦
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☦Kyrie Eleison greetings from Utah County Utah USA ☦
Orthodox Serbia. I mean, come on man, come on, nemojmo se lagati, Srbi nisi ni priblizno vjernici kao neki drugi. Treba reci pravu istinu. 100 puta smo vise tradicionalisti nego vjernici.
@@nebojsa1976 Pa mi jesmo tradicionalno Pravoslavni. 80% se izjasnjavamo kao Pravoslavci i cuvamo tu tradiciju od krstenja Srbije do danas. To se ne potire, to se dopunjuje. Ne nozemo svi biti, (a i ne moramo) teolozi. Mi Srbi ispovedamo pravoslavni odnos prema veri kroz predanje, a to se na stranom jeziku-tradicija.
@@desha0018 Uh nije tako a i ti znas da nije tako. Ljudi to rade zbog tradicije, ne vjere. Do pre 30 godina svi su bili komunisti.
From Orthodox Romania with love for mister Peterson..!❤
greetings from Serbia brother
@@sasapetrovic2556 Romanians love Serbia.
@@user-tl6gi7vq5t god Bless you brother... We will prevail 🙏❤️😘
He is a doctor of psychology, but he gets it.
As a Greek Orthodox and in my fifties I now realize when Jesus said:turn the other cheek around ...he meant dont divert from your path because you are in danger of losing yourself...and yes carry your cross which can be unbearable at times but will bring you closer to Jesus...which is all about patience, letting go,forgivness, improvement of oneself and tolerance.May God help and guide all people.Peace!
I am a Greek Orthodox as well and found what you have said to be very inspiring. Thank you for sharing!
Good perspectives. Thank you for sharing
To be fair, the analogy of "turn the other cheek" as a display of non-violence, forgiveness and lack of retaliation to evil is still very valid.
God be with you my Greek friend from Serbian Orthodox ❤
That is a very interesting perspective. I’m reformed with a orthodox streak, as I reject the over-rationalization of God’s mystery and Penal substitution as it breaks the Trinity and makes Christ a liar. Where did you get that interpretation if I may ask?
The Orthodox Church is keeping the exact same teachings Christ left us for a bit more than 2000 years, UNCHANGED.
Exactly! That precisely is the difference. Orthodoxy is not just accepting, praying, believing and revering but IMITATING Christ in everything and aiming to reach Theosis with the grace of God.
Except the russian orthodox chruch, then yes
I agree with you 1000%. The Protestants dont accept anything outside of the Bible. There are 3,000 denominations of Protestant interpretation of the Bible in the US. I was raised protestant and have tasted many flavors of protestant and catholic doctrine and it has been corrupted.. But Orthodoxy has retained the culture, tradition, and memory of the first eyewitnesses of Christs life and makes so much more sense to me than anything I have encountered before. Yes, I feel like I have come home.
@@dawnchattin5935 Orthodoxy follows human doctrines and teachings. the bible does not.
What on earth are you on? Every church does.@@donhaddix3770
Greetings from Ethiopia🇪🇹 and Eritrean 🇪🇷Orthodox our life is based on our faith🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I am Ortodix Christian. I am Serbian. I am proud of it.
Love to all Christians, Jesus is lord and don't be scared to say it out loud and proud.
If you promote ecumenism, than you are not a true Orthodox, or a true Serbian. Love to all people regardless of their religion.
@@mirkoslavko23 You are delusional if you think that I aim for promoting unity among the world's Christian Churches. There is nothing like that in my comment, I said ''Love to all Christians''. Love is not ecumenism. Educate yourself before accusing someone. Love to you aswell and hit the library asap.
@@LaudenSrb Then, "Love to all people regardless of their religion" suits you better.
@@mirkoslavko23 Just stop trying to pick up a fight, you ain't getting one with me. Insted of twisting what I wrote you should be taking my advice and educate yourself.
@@LaudenSrbsrbi - nebeski narod.
evo ko ne veruje, nek vidi kako srbin odgovara - kao legenda.
I became Orthodox after 40 years of protestantism. I would never return now - I'm home finally, but he's so right, it's been hard and each day I am struck by my weakness and inability, along with the enormity of Gods mercy. Like everything is exposed. We read about lives of saints rather than '5 steps to'. That is because theology is a relationship with God and theosis is the purpose of life.
After 20 years of Protestantism my orthodox wife made it possible for me to live in orthodoxy. I belong to oriental - orthodox church now and the treasure it provides is so amazing to experience. Reading the teachings and books of the Saints is a certain way of blessing. We got to keep in mind Protestantism has got 1500 years missing😅
@@carpentersson77Our God bless you!
You left one cult to join another. How about reading the Word of God, instead? How about believing in Christ alone for your salvation, not your good works?
@@seventhtrumpet7the fruits of the spirit can only be shown in a person's actions. Looking at what great and righteous men did is perfectly acceptable. And who is to say that they don't read the bible everyday alongside the writings and lives of the saints.
I hope this helps you as well as others, goodbye.
Syncretism has universal appeal.
Being orthodox is to have the most peace while suffering
I'm catholic but I really like to listen to orthodox priests. I often apply their teachings to my life. I think that the best thing about orthodoxy is probably that it focuses so much on spiritual warfare and that's something that can really helps you become a better man, especially in the modern world.
I was baptised as Presbyterian and all I can say with any certainty is that I fall somewhere under the protestant (little p) umbrella. I like to listen to the other groups. I have plenty of theological disagreements with many of them but I don't like to pretend that my own group knows everything.
Why not converting then? Really, that is a genuine question.
I was raised Catholic myself as well. But after digging deeper as an adult, I am drawn more to Orthodox Christianity. I have been trying to find a church that I believe is preaching the closest to the truth of Christ and not just what I want to hear. Not the one that is easiest for me. I don't know yet for sure if the Orthodox church is the right fit for me yet, but I am exploring it.
Do Orthodox religions practice the recognition of demonic possession and exorcism of it?
@@mikescollard6499 Catholics usually ask the Orthodox to help in exorcisms. They are usually not able to cast out the evil spirits… the demons are not afraid of their watered down truth. But bring in a faithful Orthodox… and they’re shaking in their boots! There is power in the pure, unaltered, Truth of Christ.
Orthodoxy is following the teaching unchanged. No modern adjustments! Greetings from Orthodox Bulgaria 🇧🇬🙏🏼☦️
Serbs suffered and still suffer a lot because of being orthodox , but it is a privilege and an honour to belong to orthodox Christianity 🙏☦️
... It is also a honor to be a Serb.
Apsolutno netacno. Mi patimo jer smo debili a ne zato sto smo pravoslavci. Najbitnije ti je da krivis druge za svoju nesrecu a sam si kriv.
@@bobbob6647 Teško da si u pravu.
@@bobbob6647 Pocenjujes neprijatelja.ili si medju njima?
@@bobbob6647 svako u svoje ime
Orthodox faith is pure heart ❤ feeling Jesus deeply, seeing him as alive and present. It is a beautiful faith
I disagree with some things, like Mary being an intercesor, do you guys do that?
Have you seen father Ounoufrio in pendeli he has the gift of clairvoyancy
@lost.please yes she is an intercessor and so are they saints , the bible mentions prayers of saints in biblical, it's not different to you prying for me
Yes yes love from greece 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
and Serbia...the dr.Jordan is deep minded and see the truth....
Dr Peterson will most probably become an orthodox christian.
Best regards from a Romanian orthodox! God bless you, Sir!
Dr. Peterson uses religion to prop him up on a pedastal. He is a zionist and being a zionist does not equate with being a christian.
@@tiahenry4743 We, as Christians have the power and the call to be the salt on the earth. But this is double sword, because we are called to represent the most Holy, while we are wrapped in the rags of our own sins. If I must call myself Christian by the deeds or my thoughts - I would never be able to. I bet he is unworthy, just like you and me, but trying he is, just like you and me.
@@LyubomirIko Peterson is not that person.
he spent a couple of years in Serbia
na he will become jewish
A journey I started almost 40 years ago has finally allowed me to accept my faith in Christ. I now find myself questioning my past so that I may continue to grow in Gods embrace. I have never experienced the peace and calm as I do now that I accept the Greek Orthodox message as a truth to base my life on.
Orthodox is the only true Christianity, it remained through the fall of the western Roman Empire and persisted and protected during Byzantine empire, it was truly left untouched
But it's Orthodox Christianity that fell in Constantinople while Rome and the Roman Catholic church are alive and kicking.
@@arsenioss7020 yeah but after the fall of the western Roman Empire, christianity had been affected by the Germanic barbarians, the eastern romans continued to practice the religion the same way since emperor Constantine the great
@@arsenioss7020 it’s not really Roman anymore after the west fell, the Roman Catholic Church just became a tool for power and legitimacy for the Latin rulers, for example the Holy Roman Empire is just rediculous since it’s not holy, Roman or an empire, the doctrines of the Roman Catholics church were changed again and again to make rulers lives easier and justify things. While the orthodox stick to the original blue print
if orthodox church is only the true Christianity, why Jesus bless other church? for example methodist church ?
@@arsenioss7020 Yes but for a while only. Orthodox Christianity will rise again and all over the world and it will happen after ww3. Read the prophecies of Holy Saints of Mount Athos and you will understand.
Orthodoxy. The church of the apostles. ☦️
Which church is the church of apostol St.Peter ?
@@pityu2002 , "Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" (I Cor 1:13)
@@andreicreacico6327 Whats your problem ? No one denies Jesus, but how can you explain that the most traditional church with continuity is the catholic church ?
@@pityu2002 , Catholic church's fundamental teachings, which differentiate it from Orthodoxy (no blood communion for laymen, Papal supremacy, Filioque, immaculate conception, papal infailibility etc.) have all historically appeared very late, after the 9th century. Also the most venerated saints in the Catholic church are those who lived after the great schism (Thomas Aquinas, Anton di Padova, Francisc d'Assisi, Ignacio de Loyola etc.) - and they formed the spiritual tradition in catholicism, which is pretty different compared to the orthodox spiritual tradition, which lays on the "old" saints like Basil the Great, John Chrysostom, Anthony the great etc.
@@andreicreacico6327 And ????
I had a blood communion in catholic church and i am an absolute laymen. Catholic church is practicali the same as the ortodox churches the diffrence is mostly in the rites and some theological differences but tht does not matter. If you want to seek the differences you will find them.
In Bulgaria we have a saying ‘everyone carries their own cross’. Greetings and thank you 🇧🇬
In Greece too, but I guess it is a saying all christians have, one way or another.
Original Christanity - and therefore the Orthodox Christians are the only keepers of real and complete faith. St Seraphim Rose is excellent example of a man who found the truth after studying every possible religion and philosophy on this planet...everyone from the West should listen to him and read his books to understand this...
prove it
@@donhaddix3770 prove it wrong?
@@user-mk9rt7eg6u The Orthodox Church did not exist in Jesus' day, nor during the lifetimes of the 12 Apostles. When the last Apostle died, we had the Bible texts written down. Sola Scriptura.
Very powerful Mr. Peterson. Thank you as a Greek Orthodox woman, you are speaking the truth of Orthodoxy
He doesn't care about Orthooxy. When you condoone the Palesinian Holocaust he is a fraud trrying to appeal to everyone. He doesn't give damn.
I totally agree with you, Dr.Peterson. As an Greek Othodox Christian I can say there's no other way of living a meaningful life
I am Greek Orthodox and what you said is so true! Thank you Mr Peterson ❤
Our orthodox Christianity brings along a note of stoicism. That's why daily trends in the world don't quite stick here, and traditional values are a bit better preserved. Greetings from Serbia. ❤
Tako je bato
long live for orthodoxy from Ethiopian orthodox ☦
Love Professor Jordan!! Orthodox Christianity is a religion thst remaines faithful to the teachings of Christ
Othodoxy the best way to God!! True and humble!! The first church created from the apostles and unchanged till today!!
100 %
Yeah, where does Peter or Johm instruct belivers to chant infront of painted pieces of wood, wear robes, grow beard and use incense in a "church" service?
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YES!!!.. Proud Syrian- Lebanese Orthodox Christian from Australia here ☦️ 🙏.
Orthodoxy is truly the fullness of Christianity. Everything else is partial and consists of half-truths. Glory to God for what He has given us…have mercy on us all.
Greetings from the origin of Orthodox Christianity 🇬🇷
That would be Jesus my Greek Friend.
The Apostolic Church reflecting the division of the Christian Roman Empire into Latin and Greek cultural spheres is manifested as Catholic and Orthodox broadly speaking in our times. We need to work together to make the Church breathe with two lungs again. I'm Nigerian and I know how much of a blessing the message of Christ can be for my society if it comes from a Church breathing with two lungs.
It is not the matter between Greeks and Latins. Orthodox nations are Russia Serbia Romania Georgia Bulgaria and so many others in Japan in Africa etc. the Roman Church fell in heresy considering the Pope as a person who can not make errors and is representing Christ on earth. Orthodoxy doesn't consider any man either he is bishop or simple person as someone who is protected from fall. They had Patriarchs who were heretics. Orthodoxy follow Jesus Christ not a person
I love this analogy brother... two lungs. Pax
its funny how we always undermine the need for leadership even after the numerous parables Christ told concerning Shepherd and flock and how Peter was supposed to feed His sheep. This leadership handed down generations is taught directly by God. The infallibility isnt attributed to the man as much as it is to the office he holds. The concept of infallibility stems from the Church's trust in Spirit of God to teach the Church ALL things.
In the old days, the dutch people used to say:
Niet klagen, (don't complain)
Maar dragen, (but bear it)
En vragen, om kracht (and ask for strength)
Nowadays this must sound foreign to most people here
What a wonderful comment! This is the mentality that brings one closer to the Truth.
I u Friziji se ljudi ljube 3 puta kao i Srbi pravoslavci.
Though I am the worst ever orthodox... I thank God leading me to the only true worship of our loving Creator! nThe orthodox faith!
Me too!
Jesus Christ when he was carrying the cross he fell so many times,but he stood up every time !
That's the Christian Orthodox way of life!
Oh ,you will fall many many times but you have to get up and keep going every single time!
That's why we say all the time Κύριε Ιησού Χριστέ ελέησον με which means Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me.
The only difference is that Jesus kept on going to "die".
We must keep on going to live!
Never surrender my fellow Christian brothers and sisters!
The fullness of the faith and the richness of orthodoxy is overwhelming!
I’m realizing that along with this fullness, also comes more responsibility.
“But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.”
Orthodoxy is not the shallow end of the pool.
It seems to call me out in to an ocean, with a strong current.
The “fullness of faith” cannot be partaken of lightly.
It requires and causes transformation.
There is one God and Orthodoxy is the revealed truth of Who that God is and how the God relates to us.
so we do not need the bible.
@@donhaddix3770we NEED Bible and we NEED Sacred traditions from the Fathers of the Church
@@donhaddix3770 No, we DO NOT NEED the bible. What we need is THE NEW TESTAMENT. The bible is a jewish story book and as we ARE NOT )ews, we refuse even the mentioning of that )ewish book. Greetings from an Orthodox Christian.....
@@nixx4401 bible yes but your traditions conflict with the bible.
@@donhaddix3770 where exactly?
At least it's not a protestant (how many branches are there?) nonsense like solo scriptura
Greetings from Bulgaria!God bless!
… I became a Catholic convert twenty years ago. However, the past five years I have been reading exclusively Orthodox monks. Were there an Orthodox Church in my small town, I would become Orthodox. Every time I am in my Catholic Church, I feel there is something missing. I actually feel sorry for everyone there. I believe it is that for the first 1000 years of the Christian Church, there was one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. Then one part of this Church separated, and became its own Church. There is no possibility that God would give an equal amount of Grace to an organization that divided the one Church. No possibility.
We'd welcome you with open arms, brother in Christ. Holy Trinity God bless you 🙏☦️
@@the.cracky Very appreciated!
@@IainGFoulds12In Orthodoxy we do pray for the world and the non Orthodox Christians daily. Anyways yeah the Great Schism of 1054 AD due to the heresy of the Filioque, the later development of the Roman Catholic Church and the eventual reaction to that which is the Protestant Reformation are definitely saddening events in history.
For the longest of time I couldn’t quite put my finger on why Catholicism bothered me as an Orthodox Christian (born, not really practicing).
When I decided to focus on my faith again one book made it very very clear as to what that missing piece was. It is so well written and simplifies such a complex topic.
I highly recommend it
Thinking Orthodox: Understanding and Acquiring the Orthodox Christian Mind
@@tgenov … Appreciate the recommendation!
As a Serbian orthodox,we don't have things as Catholic church doing "do 20 hail Mary and your sinns are forgiven"... completely opposite to that,if you sinn you have to deal with that yourself, literally man up and take and accept the punishment whatever it is
Greedings from an Orthodox Christian from Greece.
Mr. Peterson read Saint Paisios[Agios Paisios].
God bless you and your family.
Orthodox Christianity is ALL about the truth of Christ! 🙏🏼☦️♥️
We like you because you think orthodox. Greetings from Orthodox Romania!
Has a not very well hidden love for Russia.
Culorile catedralei din Piața Roșie i-au resetat felul de a vedea lumea. Abia ce ieșise de la dezintoxicarea făcută prin comă indusă. Nici el nu știe ce i-or fi șoptit doctorii și asistentele pe cit timp a fost legumă.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I’ve got mad respect for the Orthodox Church. They’re authentic.
Come join us!
One major thing that most people have forgotten and has waned away along with the empire (Byzantium) is 2 things: 1) Orthodox Church is the church of Konstantine unchanged 2) Orthodox Church ain’t a religion in a sense of we understand it today. It is a political + sets of moral laws combo , made directly by the ruling political authority with an effort to unify a large space of mess. Keep in mind that at those days, Roman Empires was so huge, that similar to today is like it expanded till Mars. It is also the most old , non stop organization of the west. Finally in its core it carries democrasy , as there is no absolute power priest like the Pope, but a Council of priests.
Very interesting, food for thought, thankyou Jordan.
respect Mr Peterson 👌
greetings from Macedonia 🇲🇰
Congratulations for the understanding! From Ortodox Bulgaria.
*Orthodoxy is the church of Jesus Christ Himself. The true church and the true Christian faith.*
❤ Κύριε Ιησού Χριστέ Ελέησον μας ✝️☦️
Well said Jordan.
The Orthodox doesn't like to bend the rules to accommodate modern needs.
The Orthodox is clean and not altered
I agree Pick up your Cross and follow Christ
Mr Peterson go to mount Athos if you have not yet. you will not regret it im sure
as an Orthodox i think this is the most beautiful clarification of the whole point of the religion and beliefs.
I am reminded of the Blessing for Lent: “Christ give you grace to grow in holiness, to deny yourselves, take up your cross, and follow him; and the blessing of God almighty, the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit, be among you and remain with you always. Amen.”🙏
growth in human doctrine, not God's
@@donhaddix3770 “deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me” are the words of God in Jesus. Therefore God’s “doctrine”, not man’s.
The purpose of life is to seek after the highest truth and to never divert from that road even when they force you to serve the purposes of the lowest form of truth by trampling upon the truth of Christ.
~ Saint Luke the Surgeon
Glad to be Orthodox. Glad to wear my cross every day, it is a constant struggle with the visible and the invisible. And in the end, the Ressuraction ❤! Maran ata.
I am also Catholic but since childhood I have learnt that I have to pick my cross, everytime I fall. And praying to Jesus for granting my repentance is the only way not to fall and to learn how not to fall. Jesus told us to pray in the tough times. Jesus is the only way. ✝️❤️✝️
Christ is Risen!
But again there is no such thing as Orthodox Christianity. It is just the Christianity it was in the beginning. In the first centuries when the titans of Christianity lived. Do you think that they called them Orthodox to compare to other branches of Christianity which didn't exist? Orthodox Christianity is the main branch and everything else are deviations.
well it wasnt called orthodox prior to the roman catholics schism in 1054ad, it was the catholic church , the undivided universal church.
the prefix name "orthodox" came to show which church was and is the original church which is apostolic and the most authentic going back to the apostles who established the 7 churches of the revelation in the greek cities of asia minor.
the official name is orthodox catholic church
The word orthodox in Christianity was in about 150s years to separate Christians from gnostics. They were not called Gnostics at the time, it's a much later term. But they need to have separation so word orthodoxy were invented for Christians
As an Orthodox christian I can say one does not negate the other, yes we do say everyone has their own cross to bare but we still see Christ as god not the Son of God but God the Son and his sacrifice to save his children is one of the foundations of Christianity.
every Orthodox Christian's body is His temple where we seek the resolution by Logos - wisdom and the Providence of God in whom all things are created to get up and go on whenever we fall. Blessings from Serbia.
I love your complete transparency,!
Orthodoxy is eros toward Christ. You can not be orthodox unless you love Christ so much that you are willing to die for Him every single day. Otherwise you will fail in one or other way. Still God is merciful He can find way to save man. Sometimes through earthquake or war or sickness. Thank You God for everything ❤❤❤
Not"eros", but love.
@@veniaminchira7740 that's called God's eros. St Symeon of Theologian writes about that
@@zaklinakovace6792 is it related to the word "erotas" which means love?
Sending blessings, love & peace to all my Irthodox brothers & sisters as well as everyone else, too 🙏🏽☦️💜
Come back home to our Holly Orthodox Church we will welcome you all with open hearts- only hope for the West🙏
Agreed. But… with that in mind we have to be extremely cautious not to conflate works with salvation. There’s a fine line there that only careful study of Scripture can resolve.
It’s certainly true that salvation is not just a trivial matter of saying you believe. It’s much deeper.
Technically, all you have to do is believe and god will know it even if you dont show it and thus you shall be saved. Even having commited horrible sins, as was proven when Jesus forgave one of the 2 people that were crucified with him and told him he is going to his kingdom with him, after the man professed his faith to him. On the contrary, even if all you do is "acts of faith", praying all day long without your heart being in it, and doing everything in general that you are "supposed" to do, god will again now that you meant none of it. So to come back to what you said, I dont think scripture has anything to do with it. Its mostly about your own intent.
@@100mexk to deny the Word of God is to deny God. You have made the humanistic argument that YOU are god, and YOU are responsible for your salvation and/or destiny.
That’s a really bad place to be.
@@DdD-pi8jw well I do not believe in god either way as I am an atheist, but I spent all of my life up to my 20s in church, sunday school and the like. What I wrote was what the whole thing boils down to. Also even if I were a christian how was what i wrote ""denying the word of god" ? Jesus' whole point was proving that sticking to the law of the 10 commandments like the pharisees wasnt actually believing. And of course each and evey one of us is responsible for our salvation and/or destiny, since its our choice if we live according to the will of jesus. Being a kind soul that does no evil isnt confined by rules of a book. Yes the Bible isnt "just a book", but its still a book. You need to open up your heart more and believe in the spirit of the bible and what it means for your life and how you should act, not blindly following it like a step by step guide. THAT is a really bad place to be.
@@100mexk with all due respect, you are wrong. I suspect you were raised in a very weak, theologically liberal church. Also , I don’t take instruction on spiritual matters from an atheist. I don’t even accept it from most Christians, unless they have proven themselves faithful to Christ and His Word.
Good luck.
That is an oversimplification indeed. And not a great one. But he doesn't state anything wrong. Yes we all have to carry our cross. Accepting Christ doesn't give you a free pass to sin. In contrast with devine knowledge, comes responsibility. But of course, God is a loving God and a forgiving God.
If that's so. Stop preaching and live like it.
@@haydencrawford8552 Im not preaching, yt comments is definitely not the platform to do that 😂.
And yes my brother Im trying to carry my cross every day. God wants us all to be saved. Jesus is King.
@@magicmike97m uttering the words "christ is king" is shallow and preaching.
Prayer is private, utter the words silently and to no one else.
As Matthew 6:5 says "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."
Preaching these words makes you a christcuck, not a true follower of the Divine.
A free pass to what?
As an Orthodox Christian, I find this formula rather accurate.
I cannot believe that.. I am 33 years old. I am an orthodox since for ever in my life. It is 1 of the handfull, yes only handful, times that i here some complete, so deep and so accurate description of my faith which at the same time is 100% simple. Simple enough for anybody to understand. even a kid can understand that.( not a 5 years old probably but you see the point hehehe).. Usually the study or speech for such things are full of difficult meanings, words, that even sentences need separate study to know for sure what the speaker saying. I am astonished by this man.
Drop the ego guys!... not the cross, love is the answer, and when is for the one who harms you, then you are there ♥️
Excellent choice Mr Peterson, I wish Neitszche could have discovered the narrow path but instead he chose the torment of the mind.
Peace love and health to all 🙏
To all who would like to understand pure sense of Orthodox faith I recommend you books of Father Seraphim Rose and Saint Bishop Nikolay Velimirovic.
Big greetings from Serbia.
Love from an Italian Orthdox ❤☦🇮🇹
In the holy sacrament of baptism, at some point the priest puts the cross on the baptised person. The priest then recites Mark 8:34: "Ὅστις θέλει ὀπίσω μου ἐλθεῖν, ἀπαρνησάσθω ἑαυτὸν, καὶ ἀράτω τὸν σταυρὸν αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἀκολουθείτω μοι." "Whoever wishes to come after me must renounce himself, take up his cross, and follow me". THAT is the eternal struggle of the Orthodox Christian. The continuous struggle towards salvation. This is what gives you courage to proceed with the struggles in life.
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I like Peterson a lot, I also can learn so much from him about my own faith, but I hope that believers who watch this understand that this “compliment” here to the Orthodox from Peterson is a very, very secular compliment and therefor lowkey a big disadvantage for the faithful.
how is this a "secular" compliment
@@johnbinford6706 - because it is upon us to choose to bear the cross indeed, but not to ascend the mountain. The weight is not for us to lift. It is upon us to surrender before Him and let Him carry and elevate us to His kingdom.
@@GrGal we need to do what is ours and when we cant go longer God will help us. We only get what we can deal with. In this fight to climb up we grow if we have right tools (fasting, forgiveness, repentance, confession, communion, deeds, prayer).
I think the real problem is that for him believing Jesus is the Son of God and accept Him has his redeemer is "dangerous". He sounds completly secular, you can see how he cannot comprehend how he is rejecting Christ, because he only wants to apply to his life the metaphorical aspect, but Jesus dying on the cross for our sins is not just metaphorical, is a fact (also for orthodox). He is trying to gain salvation through his own works, rejecting Jesus as Lord and putting himself as "the center of reality", making himself god.
That's what Peterson can't see, even tough he's brilliant... And he will not be able to see it until he confesses Jesus as Lord, as said in Romans 10:9
@@mark_marom I have seen no indication that JP believes (non-metaphorically) that Jesus rose from the dead. Lacking that is an incomplete profession of faith.
Reminds me of an old German saying. "Niemals sollst Du laut Leid klagen, sondern stets im Stillen sagen: Jesus hat noch mehr getragen!"
This translates to: "You should never complain loudly, but always say in silence: JESUS BORE EVEN MORE!"
"Everyone carries their cross alone" is a popular saying here in Romania. Seems from the comments that all the other eastern-europeean, orthodox countries have it. Jordan nailed it.
is that elden ring music?
are you also here to level up your faith stat?
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I recommend everyone to read Orthodox texts, specially from Russian monks. Ull feel love, wisdom and child like purity. Orthodoxy is all about love and very personal relationship with Lord. Our churches are not fancy, filled with gold and glitter, as the whole experience of faith is inner, the emphasis is on the inner, on spiritual, not material. The West, unfortunately, declared material as the only reality, the only important aspect of human existence. I hope the West will turn back to whats important and meaningful, and stop confusing terms like freedom for beings reckless or self destructive. Love from Serbia ❤️
Except for the fact that there are Catholics that are also picking up their cross and walking with Jesus daily as we are taught . See , there are valid sacraments in the Greek Orthodox Church which is why many Orthodox feel that they are in the correct denomination , however, the full truth is with the Catholic Church.
The orthodox Church is not a denomination. It's the trunk. We didn't choose the name orthodox in 1054. It was defined by saint pope of Rome Leo II in 810AD when the new emperor of the West, Charlemagne send him a delegation to request the addition of the filioque to the Nicene creed.
This was obviously a political move because such an unilateral change would end up in a schism between Rome and the rest of the Church, and will give Charlemagne a greater control over the West.
Fortunately we still have the minutes of the meeting. saint pope Leo told the delegation that he had not such power (no pontifical monarchy yet) . Then he nailed two silver shields on the doors of his basilica with the unaltered Nicene creed (without the filioque) engraved in Greek and in Latin and the following sentence : I LEO DID THIS FOR THE SAKE AND LOVE OF THE ORTHODOX FAITH.
The filioque dispute continued between the Carolingian dynasty and the orthodox popes of Rome until the 8th ecumenical council of 880 in Constantinople anathematized anyone who dares to add or remove anything to or from the Nicene creed.
This canon was validated by saint pope John VIII who was murdered shortly afterwards in 882 with a hammer. A warhammer. The kind of weapon the Germans used.
Rome fell in total chaos as Italian and German princes fought over the chair of Peter. Meanwhile the Carolingian dynasty went extinct. Finally the Germans took control of the papacy when pope Benedict VIII was expelled from Rome and asked the king of Bavarian Henry to help him. Henry marched on Rome and restored Benedict VIII.
On February 14 1014 Benedict celebrated in Rome the coronation of Henry II as "Holy Roman Germanic emperor" and for the first time in history added the filioque to the recitation of the creed by a pope of Rome. (1000 years later exactly, Benedict XVI resigned)
The Germans started to impose German popes, the second of which was the count Bruno von Egisheim-Dagsburg, who became pope Leo IX in 1050. Bruno was a descendant of Charlemagne and he claimed the imperial insignia for himself, constituted an official pontifical state, created a senate (assembly of cardinals) wearing the colors of the Senators of the Roman empire, and appointed a chancellor, the infamous Humbert de Mouyenmoutiers who will provoke the schism in 1054 after the death of Leo IX. But before that Leo IX invaded Sicily with his army to attack the Normans. Sicily was a byzantine province still. Leo ordered the local bishops to drop the Byzantine rite in favor of the Latin mass. The bishops asked the Patriarch of Constantinople Michel Cerularios what to do and Michel told them to ignore Leo's request. This infuriated Leo IX who wrote a letter to Michel claiming universal jurisdiction over the entirety of the Church based on the Donation of Constantin. This was a forged imperial decree by which Constantin the Great allegedly transferred the imperial insignia of Rome to pope Sylvester. A forgery created to justify the coronation of Charlemagne in 800AD. Leo IX was defeated by the Normans at the battle of Civitate and became their hostage until 1053 and died just after being released. Meanwhile Humbert, who was ruling the pontifical state alone was traveling to Constantinople in order to receive official recognition of the newborn pontifical state by the Eastern Emperor. The state meeting when smoothly but Humbert delivered also an insulting letter to Michel in which the (dead) pope Leo IX accused the Patriarch to be a woman in drag. A common accusation among the Frankish-Germanic culture was to consider the orthodox Christians as effeminate because they rejected brutality in the spiritual affairs. In 1075 Dictatus Papae gave the direction for the Gregorian reformation by proclaiming :
That the Roman pontiff alone is called universal by right. (= Donation of Constantine as confirmed in the following proclamations)
That he alone can use the imperial insignia.
That all princes are to kiss the feet of the pope alone.
That his sentence ought to be retracted by no one and that he alone can retract that of all.
That he himself must be judged by no one.
That the Roman church has never erred nor will ever err in perpetuity, as scripture testifies.(?)
Not that the universality is liked to the imperial religious title "Pontifex Maximus" inherited from Constantine by the forged donation and the universality of the Church is linked to her Romanity.
Roman Catholicism was born and all the orthodox aspects of the religion whill be removed. The sign of the cross changed, the rites changed, the dogma of salvation by submission to the Roman Pontiff added in 1302.
There was a last point though : The 8th ecumenical council anathematized the addition of the filioque. I will explain how it was nullified in another post.
As I explained the 8th ecumenical council hold in Constantinople in 879-880 anathematized anyone who dares to modify the creed. And this council was validated by saint pope John VIII who was afterwards murdered with a hammer. After the schism, the name of John VIII was removed from the list of the popes and his acts invalidated. Rome rejected the 8th ecumenical council and does not count it among the ecumeniacal councils till this day.
Why was John VII erased? Here is the official explanation given by the biography of the popes vritten by the prefect of the Vatican Library in 1479 :
_Pope John VIII: John, of English extraction, was born at Mentz (Mainz) and is said to have arrived at popedom by evil art; for disguising herself like a man, whereas she was a woman, she went when young with her paramour, a learned man, to Athens, and made such progress in learning under the professors there that, coming to Rome, she met with few that could equal, much less go beyond her, even in the knowledge of the scriptures; and by her learned and ingenious readings and disputations, she acquired so great respect and authority that upon the death of Pope Leo IV (as Martin says) by common consent she was chosen pope in his room. As she was going to the Lateran Church between the Colossean Theatre (so called from Nero's Colossus) and St. Clement's her travail came upon her, and she died upon the place, having sat two years, one month, and four days, and was buried there without any pomp._
So John VIII was a woman in drag, exactly the same defamation used by Humbert de Moyenmouthier in 1054 against the Patriarch of Constantinople Michel Cerularios.
After the Protestants weaponized the affair, Pope Clement VIII declared the legend of the female pope to be untrue in 1601. Nevertheless John VII was not canonized by Rome and is a saint martyr of the orthodox faith only in the eastern Church. The 8th ecumenical council of 880 was not recognised as valid despite re restoration of John VIII who validated its canons.
In 1995 John Paul II asked the publication of the following clarification concerning the filioque :
_The Catholic Church acknowledges the conciliar, ecumenical, normative and irrevocable value, as expression of the one common faith of the Church and of all Christians, of the Symbol professed in Greek at Constantinople in 381 by the Second Ecumenical Council. No profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition can contradict this expression of the faith taught and professed by the undivided Church._
The universal Church is the one professing the universal creed. That is the Orthodox Church.
"the full truth is with the Catholic Church": that statement is self-willed delusion. Neither Magisterium-faithful RC's nor Protestants offer a cure for the nous. Hope_Boat's command of history is also on display in Fr. John Romanides's Patristic Theology, along with an elucidation of this significant theological difference.
I have found Catholism teaches carrying your cross. All the things Mr. Peterson is saying about Orthodoxy is true also about The Catholic Church.
I agree many in Protestanism and cafeteria " catholics " do not.
Many modernists Catholic Priests are not teaching the True Faith.
Alot of error has occured in the
Catholic carismatic movement
Likened to Protestanism.
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I have listened Jordan on many topics and enjoyed it. I was nicely surprised to listen to him about an Orthodox Christianity bc im a Russian Orthodox. He aimed it!
Why is the icon AI generated?
It's not
@@Yeshua.Loves.You. Absolutely is
You can reach Jesus only through the 7 misteries of the Orthodox Apostolic church,it is not enough to be a good person
There is not such a thing like a "good" person. And where in the bible it says about your statement ??
Read the Bible
Same question to you? Where in my bible?:)
@@kondarus8545 nowhere.
@@kondarus8545Good person is seen in the figure of Jesus Christ. He is the perfect man, and the perfect God.
Dr. Peterson, please read about how we Bulgarians preserved our fight during the 500 years of Ottoman occupation. And all other Balkan nations. There is so much wisdom and strength in the Balkans !
One of the main differences is that in Orthodox Christianity you don't have to deny, or to put it in the other word, fight the human part of your being. We people are imperfect by any means, we have our needs and instincts, flaws and virtues that are part of us whether we want it or not. You can fight whole your life to be different than that and still you fail. No amount of worshipping, praying would change that. Only thing you need to do is to is to be better man than you've been yesterday to keep in mind that carrying your cross now, and making right joices would be ultimately rewarding for your soul.
Protestants emphasise faith, orthodox emphasise works, for me catholics are the sweet spot inbetween.
Orthodoxy predates both though.
Utterly wrong. Orthodox Christianity emphasizes what the Apostles and the church of the first millenium overall taught. Also catholics emphasize buying your way into heaven and forgeries.
@@FaithfulComforter no, non denominational came first.
@@one_step_sideways orthodox did not exist in the first century.
@@FaithfulComforter Saint Peter was the first Pope of the Catholic Church. It was the first and only church of Jesus Christ upon it's formation. However, over the years it has been corrupted by the imperfections of mankind and lost it's way. I was raised Catholic myself, but am seeking to find the truth in a different Christian church.
Greetings from Orthodox Romania, Mr. Peterson! Wishing you all the best!
As a Macedonian Orthodox myself, i must say that big part of religion is our connection with saints who were always inseparable of our religion. If u go to Macedonian church you will se many icons of saints and hear stories about them helping people. Something that catholic church dont have.
There is one beautiful image in the Bible that is rarely remembered - it is lost behind other images that are much more resonant and colorful. Elijah, the great prophet, in a difficult time for himself, when the Israelites persecuted him and worshiped idols, asked the Lord to appear to him. The answer he received was: “Go out and stand on the mountain before the Lord, and, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains and broke in pieces the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. And after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. And after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire, the breath of a quiet wind , and the Lord was there.”
It’s not just how we are the oldest and purest. Let me say this… through my work I deal with some Shiite muslims and this is how they see us Orthodox Christians, they admit we are the most understanding, most patient, most tolerant and we never start conflict. When world matters happen especially if there is a clash of religions they always ask me what do I think on this topic happening right now and they always say yeah you’re right ( my opinion) . They also say all orthodox Christians think the same. Their imans are modeled off our priests and bishops in regard to a facial appearance, clothing and approach the allow marriage. They also admit that the hijab was inspired by our Orthodox Christian nuns. Think about how far back we go and look at us now, we haven’t changed because why… we are true and devout to our beliefs and to our beloved God and saviour through the history of mankind. ☦️💟🇦🇺🇲🇰
So true...I'm an orthodox christian and love Dr Peterson 😊
Jordan needs to come home already. ☦️
Greetings from Orthodox Romania
Thank you🙏 Iam from Malankara Orthodox Kerala, India. God bless you