Making a Belt Guard for a South Bend 9" Lathe 308 Pt 3 tubalcain
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024
- This is part 3 of a 3 part video, I fabricate am OSHA approved belt Guard for a SOUTH BEND 9" Model A lathe.
I have many videos regarding SB lathes. Here are a few that are particularly applicable to this video.
Making a Belt Guard for a South Bend 9" Lathe 306 Pt 1 tubalcain
CLEANING THE APRON ON SOUTH BEND 9" Lathe 328 tubalcain
LUBRICATING THE SOUTH BEND LATHE 342 tubalcain oiling
DELIVERY OF A SOUTH BEND 9" model C LATHE 780 tubalcain
INSPECTING the SOUTH BEND MODEL C LATHE 781 tubalcain
TUTORIAL on SOUTH BEND LATHE APRON PARTS TUBALCAIN
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MR. PETE!! Please stop listening to the people that complain about your speaking style. You should never listen to people that complain about how long the video is, or how far you go to explain things. They All have fast forward and rewind controls. The people that complain are selfish. Please keep doing your videos however you see fit. Another thing you shouldn't worry about are the people that complain about every little thing you do.....or how you do it. Thank You for making great videos!!
Ken Wolfe I agree with you... MR Pete I am your big fan.
Your sidetracks are better than some people's main roads. Drive on!
Don't blame me anymore Lyle! I quit asking questions the last time you admonished me publicly a couple months ago! ;) Anyway, I've now watched all of your videos and don't need to ask as much now because you've covered it all. I hope the people in your life know how lucky they are to know you, I've never personally had such a person and I guess when I discovered your videos I was just too enthusiastic.
Mr. Pete, I just want to say that I really appreciate the tangets and over-explanations. I was raised by a single mother, and never knew my father, and my grandfather passed when I was little. My mother is a wonderful lady, but I never learned the first thing about tools, shop work, wiring, or any of the topics you cover in your videos. I learn so much from each one, I hope you never change your style. I really appreciate the time and effort it takes to make your videos.
@28:25
Wow - so few words simply spoken , yet deeply heavy with emotion. ( As a Father of 4 sons it brought tears to my eyes )
I've made lots of belt guards back in my much younger days and I always used wood templates and it worked out great. Your sidetracks and off-topic comments are much better then most other peoples content. Keep it up. Maybe the younger viewers will learn something.
Lyle, You are NOT overly verbose nor do you over-explain things. You are great and please don't change a thing or allow the communists to alter the way you do things. This has been a public service announcement.
Mr. Pete, you keep right on doing what you're doing. You've got more years of teaching experience than most of the whiners have been alive. You are both entertaining and informative. We may never build a belt guard for a South Bend lathe, but we can still learn from your thought processes, techniques, and experiences. You are a valuable resource and we appreciate everything you do.
From a home shop machinist that is just a bit older than you, "I could care less what OSHA says or thinks" or for that matter EPA, or any of the other Bureaucrats, that think it is their job to rule our lives. I truly appreciate your video's, Keep up the good work.
Gary from the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas.
Your voice has the same down-to-earth, friendly quality. I would have said I would have loved being in your shop class...but I HAVE been in your shop class for several years now :-)
Great video. The ones who ask you “why” you go through the pains that you do to explain things are the ones who need it explained the most and likely blessed with youth.
Your last comment is spot on, I have been a mechanic for 45 years ,repaired or fabricated more things than I care to remember so let me tell you,
I really enjoy your videos ,what your doing is real world repair and fabrication and
you dont over explain, your relating to viewers from many walks of life and levels of knowledge. Keep up the good work.
Oh yeah and to the safety Nazis and other people giving you advise on how you
should have done a job, You dont like it I suggest you crawl out of
moms basement and get yourself some real world experience and start
your own channel. There I feel much better.
thanks!
Mr. P.,
You speak sensibly. Please continue. Anything that reduces the amount of "Cranio/Rectal Syndrome" in the population is valuable.
As for the slightly exposed rotating hub, if it comes down to covering it, find a black plastic cup and epoxy cement (JB weld) its rim to the sheet metal.
Eli D.
I have built a lot of belt guards, back when osha first started requiring guards on everything. Nice job. Thanks for all your videos
great job Mr Peterson. You are a great machinist and teacher. Don't change your style one bit. Thank you.
It's not a hole with a shaft sticking out, it's a "Visual Rotation Indication Window"!
I appreciate that you read and consider the comments that your viewers make. I also a understand that you may feel you need to apologize for "side trips" and "too much detail," because of the comments that some viewers make. I would like to encourage you to continue to just be yourself! Many of us value how you express yourself as much as what we gain from the information that you pass on in your videos. "Cheap" or good old Swedish frugality?
I like the level of detail you supply, and I enjoy your thoughts of other matters. Please ignore the keyboard critics and don't change a thing. Thanks for your efforts.
Hi Mr. Pete,
I listen to your videos with a headset while I am working in my shop and can all ways slide over to the desk if I need to replay some video.
Your pleasant delivery is calming and makes an easier workday for me.
Thanks for all the great info.
Also thanks for firing back at the Nazis.
Jim
Thanks for watching
Thank you Lyle for the kind comments concerning our Veterans!
Nice video, Lyle. When I was a teenager working with my Dad as an electrician, we did not have a vice on the job. I would cut the Greenfield (that's what we called it) by standing on the roll side of the cut with my left foot and holding the measured piece in my right hand against my right knee and saw away with my left hand as I am left handed. Took some practice but so did tube bending. I got a lot of experience from that job. Helped pay for my education, too. Last thought, please stop apologizing to those ________!Thanks, Russell
this is way better than what's on the TV
In the days of my youth, back on the farm, I saw many a factory-made shield with holes in them for protruding shafts. Sometimes the shaft extended an inch or two, and sometimes even had a key in a keyway which could catch clothing and wind you into a ball. Yours is much neater and safer, and the hole is perfectly-centered, unlike those factory-made farm machines.
Hello from Brisbane, Australia Mr Pete. I second the comments of my fellow country man, Charlie Pace, the extra information you give us is great so keep on rambling on as I find your videos so interesting and I could listen to your Illinois accent all day long. You are right this stuff is far more interesting than a lot of the stuff on TV and even cable if you have it. Thankyou.
Thanks for watching down there!
Hi, Mr. Pete.
Another nice looking guard is about to enter service.
A pilot hole and a Greenlee punch would eliminate the need to remove the rivets.
My first thought to cover the hole was to make a shallow dish by metal spinning, but life's too short.
By heat forming a thin plastic (1/8" ?) disc over the dimpled wheel guard you showed, and leaving a 1/2" flange for fastening, Robert is your father's brother.
Keep 'em coming.
Tom
Pete that guard turned out great and by the way I too need to make a guard for my lathe pulleys and this video was perfect You certainly explain things extremely well. Pls don't let criticism put you off. Doing what you love. And teaching us newbies metal work. And all things with lathe's. It's not as if your going to have young children running around your workshop when your running machines. And also may I add don't apologise for going off the subject this is your channel and we who have subscribed totally enjoy your commentry the way you work and by teaching us your ideas and tricks. To get round difficult situations. I think your channel is absolutely perfect. It's a shame there's only a handful of channels like yours. And I will always be enjoying watching & learning from a great teacher called tubalcain 👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much!!!!!
Love your videos and your commentary. Don't change a thing!
Thanks--I won't
hello from Melton, Victoria, Australia. what makes your videos really good is the extra info you give us. Keep on rambling on I say it makes your videos nice to watch.
Thanks for watching
I've been watching all your videos I can and thoroughly enjoy them. I don't mind the back-ups at all and actually enjoy the added information.
Thanks
Piece of art. I am watching all your videos and have to say you are a very thoughtful man putting all your experience in every task you present. Greetings from Greece!
Another nice video: I'm the guy that mentioned to use the bearing cap from tractor supply in your previous video I noticed someone else mentioned it in these comments as well just wanted to say thanks for the shout out and mentioning my suggestion. I like the way you handled it in the end!
Yours was a good idea, thanks. Freeze plugs also
It's a bonus that you can see the shaft turning, and you could measure RPM off it.
You do have a soothing, pleasing voice, it does have a similar cadence but in a lower octave than Jimmy Stewart. There ain't nothing wrong with that. ;-)
His voice is like Jimmy Stewart meets County Agent Campbell on Green Acres. l think it's great, you can learn much by listening to his side tracks.
You mentioned it looks like a violin case, in the mine we actually called these guards "fiddle cases". They covered chains and sprocket reductions, were split across their length at the axle line and filled with oil to make a bath for the chain or bull gears. Fiddle Case.
anther great video Mr Pete the belt cover looks great my son and I are restoring my dad 9 a South Bend it's after setting for 22 years and thanks for the name of that movie I see it with my dad when I was a kid wanted to see it again thanks for sharing your knowledge
All the time you were positioning all of those make shift hub caps and spoons and such I kept saying "just cut a hole in it and let it be." I am glad you could hear me and resisted the temptation to add any Mickey Mouse hub caps. Keep on keeping on.
Thanks for the series. I always learn a lot from your videos. I glean the principles of what your doing so it doesn't matter that I might never do what you've done. I thoroughly enjoy all the back story you provide and if others complain give them no mind. I enjoyed my few years of shop in high school and envy your old students for the opportunity they had with you. I started out an arm chair machinists but I picked up a mint old Grizzly mill and am refurbishing a SB 10K. Little by little my hobby shop is coming together and I truly appreciate your desire to educate and entertain your viewers.
You are absolutely correct, the best entertainment video bar none! The flex you were using comes in aluminum and steel, both are easy to cut with a hack saw by cutting diagonally across one of the raised ribs which then releases it. Then a little trimming to take those sharp points off and it is ready to use. Of course you probably know that by now with 286 comments before me. I like your design and don't think the exposed hub is a problem.
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I think it's Sadistic packaging too!!!! They put chucks of steel in those impossible to open packages, and light bulbs in tissue thin paper packaging. There is a basic ineptitude there...
Always cut Greenfield on the angle. if you rotate your saw clockwise about 60 degrees, it'll zip thru it. Just imagine cutting thru only one wrap of the steeel / aluminum. I kinked it once, and my boss yelled at me.
Excellent work! Thanks for this!
I absolutely enjoy your videos, you make the mundane interesting. I have been trying for months to place your voice, which I find very soothing. Kind of a mix of Walter Cronkite and Lowell Thomas, of "High Adventure with Lowell Thomas" fame, which was one of my favorite early TV shows, was in black and white.
Much like the Discovery Channel we have today
Thanks again!
Mr Pete I'll bet the man who wired that motor had the nick name sparky . Great video thanks!
keep at it pete... ther are thousands of us watching your every move keep healthy laurence from england
Thanks
You're right, I don't own a lathe and have never done any machining (besides using a small set of taps & dies for cutting threads) but I absolutely love watching your videos because they're entertaining and I always learn something. You sound like Jimmy Stewart? Yes, a bit. Easy solution for the safety nazis = muffin pan cutout attached to the outside with double-sided tape?
Hey Mr. Pete, love watching your videos, and I don't mind at all you taking time to explain all the little nuances of how youre doing something - because I work the same exact way-lol - Im 57 and I love the process of home engineering something like this and so often I will spend hours or sometimes days looking for that perfect piece to re-purpose and obtain the result I have in mind. Its the challenge of getting the best possible result from your own original idea or design. You just never know where youre going to find that absolutely ideal item to make the whole thing come together -- and when you tell folks what you used theyre usually quite surprised -- (belt guard parts from the kitchen isle of the dollar store, really?) Small stainless pet food bowls are good for this too, much akin to the cup cake pans -- keep up the good work, teaching others in any capacity is a noble profession-!
Great series. We had to make a belt/chain guard in shop training at my work place. Just for practice with sheet metal, and thrown away after graded. My wife is also missing items from the kitchen ( some she is still looking for).
Looks great, needs a big ole South Bend decal on it.
I have really enjoyed your videos and find your discussion during the videos to be fantastic.
Keep it up.
Great Job! Sheer entertainment value for me! And I, as many others do, enjoy your humor and side tracks.
Thanks
Amen to your assertion that this is better than anything on cable or broadcast TV. Keep 'em coming.
(And I don't think that shaft end needs to be covered - sez the guy with no guard at all on his SB 9".)
My suggestion: paint the hub white, use a Sharpie to draw a spiral on it, then epoxy a clear perspex cover over the hole. That way you can say you meant to do it all along for safety reasons: to stop birds from flying into it! BTW, great video as usual, keep up the good work.
Yep, shows you what can be done. I need a cover for my floor-mounted horizontal-drive 9"-A. Good stuff!
Mrpete I for one think you never provide to much information!!! I enjoyed ever part of this video just like all your others. I recently bought a 1950 ish Delta Rockwell Floor drill press very cheap and need to rewire it, so the part on the wiring was very helpful you did show the before on the motor side ( which looks just like what I am dealing with) but not the after, I would have like to have seen how handled and cleaned up the connections. Like always another GREAT VIDEO! two thumbs up! Thank You P.S. I would not put the cover over the hole for the shaft. I like the way it look as is & I think its perfectly safe too!
I do like the jig you created for holding the curved parts together while welding. Very nice cover. Some of the old machines I can in oil field machaine shops around Houston had a LOT more exposed spinning parts that your lathe. :)
Thanks again for your time and your patience. Invaluable lessons . Its a pleasure watching.
First Jimmy Stewart is great, closely followed by Cary Grant. As far as the hole in the guard. It's your machine... Plus, if anybody thinks that's unsafe they've not worked in a machine shop. Rock on Mr. Pete
Yes I agree - much more interesting than TV!
Like no 4 Pete don't listen to them Pete keep on what you are doing it's brilliant lots of info just what people want loads of info an what and why you are doing it thanks for the videos
DG
Uk
Thank you greatly for the encouragement
It is kind of funny but what made me stay and watch the first video I found of you on You tube was the fact that your voice does remind me of Jimmy Stewart a bit (one of my favorites) and your videos provide a rather calming effect upon my stressful life for which I shall be eternally grateful to you. Regarding the crap on TV, no one said it better than Newton N. Minnow (once chairman of the FCC) who uttered in the early 1960's that "TV is a vast waistland" I would add with minor exceptions like my beloved Twilight Zone series.
Thank you for watching and I love Rod Serling myself. I just watched requiem for a heavyweight. And realize what a great writer he was. Many hundreds of people have said that I sound like Jimmy Stewart. Which I take as a great complimentOne of my favorite actors
My relationship with Rod Serling goes greater than just watching his classic TV show. In 1972 as a Freshman at Ithaca College I actually had the unspeakable privilege of having Rod as my professor for a writing course. If that was not enough I took Freshman Phys-Ed (A co-ed course) with Rod's super cute daughter, Jodi Serling and i was too shy and awestruck to even attempt to speak to her and get to know her. Ah the missed opportunities of life. Regarding the vast wasteland of TV my life long career right out of high school was a job at the now local Fox TV station in NY City where I am still working to this day. At least the TV industry put food on this man's families table for 45 years now.
Thanks for the video, nicely done. I can not believe the cost of the 4 prong plugs! Outrageous! Believe it or not there's a special tool to open those plastic packages, otherwise known as gawd-damit packages.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I sure do appreciate the depth that you go into things!!
Excellent series mrpete. Just keep on doing what you are doing. Thanks for sharing. regards from the UK
Ah yes; a need, some 12 ga material, and the desire to practice what you preach about safety 👍. As for “pop” rivets : Harbor Freight ( or other stores) have an air operated rivet gun thats easy to use and does a great job. Great choice of color too !
As always enjoyed the video. Lots safer than it was before.
Nice job on the guard.
The exposed end of the shaft is much safer than the old exposed pulley and belt was. If you want to make a lathe 100 % safe you need to remove the chuck, the motor, and any sharp cutting tools.
For the rattle check the play between the magnets and the plastic housing. Maybe a little silicone glue or epoxy on the magnets will remove the play and the rattle.
Thanks for pointing me at Carbine Williams. I never knew the story.
I was wondering about the lid rattling. It's usually the case that one solution creates it's own problems. That actually makes things more interesting.
Looks good, Mr Pete. I don't think the hole is a big safety issue, but one avenue to fix it would be to use some of that leftover sheet metal and just cut out a little disc to cover the hole. Mount it with those rivets for a nice consistent look. If it's not enough clearance make a washer out of the same material to use as a spacer.
You could make some latches with L brackets and neodymium magnets, gluing a bit of rubber or felt to the magnets to stop the rattling.
You do a very good job please don't change
I relay like your videos. Learnt a lot but it is also nice to (now and then) see that that we did some things the same way. For the rattle a thin strip of sponge glued on the lid, here and there, could also help. (as long as it does not "force" the magnetic catch open (obviously). Keep on going you are my shop "Wikipedia".
Thank you very much. Keep watching
Great Video! The longer the better.
I think you do a great job . great video .
Awesome job on the guard. Great video
fantastic, I've been looking forward to the latest video like a grumpy old man who hasn't had his coffee yet!
my favorite jimmy move as well
If you ever need "special" electrical supplies, find an an electrical supply house in your area, the kind of place that sells to electricians for professional work. They should be willing to sell to you privately, and they'll have everything you could think of. Also, your solution for the cut wire in this video was excellent, using the flex and connectors.
Thanks
Mr. Pete I have a south bend 9 just like yours, but my switch is wired in backwards and can you do a short video on rewiring the switch please.
Your videos have helped me learn so much on my little large thank you and keep them coming!!!
Forget about people complaining about your sidebars. There is a zillion channels out there in youtubeland. If they are not happy, let them go elsewhere. You have a great number of subscribers that just want to see and hear you talk shop! Me being one of them!
For the "hub cap": Try the pet department, there are small stainless steel bowls (well, more cup-sized) for cats. Thick enough to weld on. Maybe little high for that guard.
For low profile cap maybe a large, thick washer can be bored out to a ring may give enough clearance and then on that a sheet metal disk made from the offcut will suffice.
Mr. Pete, I will remind you that Tom from Ox Tool Co says "Nothing Too Strong Ever Broke." So with that said the door is made out of the right stuff.
Just a suggestion one way to stop the rattle would be to cut a small piece of rubber tubing slid it lengthwise and slip it over the strategic spot where the metal is touching. Thanks again for another good video.
Looks good! better than the alternatives that you were considering in my opinion. I don't see any safety issues with it the way it's currently done.
Thanks Pete great work
I like it just as it is. Great job. If someone is so picky as to the minimum protruding rotating shaft, they probably are not safe enough to operate the machine in the first place. Priming the shaft would finish it as a viewer mentioned.
I have watched a great many of Tubalcain's vids. This one breaks new ground, and it's amazing. Go To... 13:05 and by 13:10 there is the 1st laugh ever issued forth if I am not mistaken.
For the packaging, the easiest way is to use an electric can opener. My wife as rheumatoid arthritis & she heard this on one of the forums. It works.
One can never get an overload on information, just seeing someone else's way of doing something, might just show you a better way then your own, even if you have done the same thing many times over for years! I hate paying school money that someone else has already paid for. Just keep going Lyle I recon you are doing a great job! I feel the persons that do the complaining should realise how much time you put into what you doing, and they getting it for free. Go figure the attitude of some.I will say thank you for your time and effort you put into these videos. "There is more than one way of killing a cat" as the old saying goes. And let me add in hast, I'm not a cat hatter either!
I enjoy your videos. Anyone who says you talk too much should go somewhere else.
excellent job mr pete amateurish no way, great fabrication .
great video Mr Pete. thanks!
Very interesting series. Thank you
I wish you would quit apologizing for explaining things or going off on tangents. We love you and enjoy how you make your videos. That is why you have over 100,000 subscribers. With that kind of subscriber base come a lot of trolls. Your channel is actually not very bad at all as far as trolls. The thing to do is just delete the rude comments and move on. Don't change what you are doing or apologize for it.
You might be able to quite that rattle with some self-adhesive foam weather stripping applied to the inside of the cover right along the edge. But that cabinet latch might not have enough power so you could maybe mount a post in between the pulleys and glue a big disk magnet to it.
I do like the look of the cupcake tin that you used on the other guard. I think it has a nice proportion and shape to fit the look of the lathe.
Priceless!!!
From that old Bob
Thanks for bringing some new stuff, how it works an interesting series.
considering the last on your belt cover I would not agree to cover the end of the lathe spindle.
in every pro lathe it is open as the factory lathe covers all have open holes in case a longer piece needs the room to sticking out. I covered the cover has to be open which may not be so easy because of some shop congestion. I watch all your videos a joy their clearity. Thanks
theoldbob
Thank you Mr.Pete. I will beware for your problems If i ever have to make a machine guard. i will test fitting one more time before painting it.and use 2 or more magnet against ratteling.
thanks
I frankly like the rattle. Will keep you awake and alert so you don't get wrapped around the spinning chuck. lol
Nice build, nice video. Thanks!
As usual, another great video! I use a can opener to open those plastic packages. Works for me.
More info is better than less, so not to worry, as you say, fast forward is available. Thanks for something besides daytime TV. Awful stuff there! Also in fairness, I agree that it probably will be safe. A funny suggestion...Do like they did on the old propeller driven planes, and put something on it so people can readily see that it's rotating. Maybe a grand daughter's sticker. LOL! Might even satisfy OSHA!
Mr. Pete,
A "Cheesy" ending to an otherwise great build!! Finish it with the zinc casting or cup cake tray and repaint. Do it right!
The "Greenfield Solution" to the wiring is indeed better than the rubber electrical cord. Also, if the rotating lathe chuck alone does not constitute a rotational hazard the hole in the guard face with almost no protrusion surely is Not. Carry on Sir.
For the cap you could use a bearing cover off a a trailer...wheel...that covers the bearing...where the grease is...nice video...