Nikon ZF I'm Excited about the future of Nikon!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I'll talk about the new Nikon Zf, the Nikon Autofocus System, the Expeed 7 Processor, and my thoughts on the future of Nikon mirrorless Z system cameras. Spoiler alert, I'm excited!
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This ZF makes everyone happy.😊
It is an exciting announcement for sure!
@@PhilThach Yup,definitely.
Completely agree. Better than my Zfc, but at 3 times the price and two years younger that is no surprise. I don't want a bigger, heavier better Zfc I want a D500 replacement without having to drop 4K!
Thank you!
Very pleased to see Nikon being competitive in the mirrorless market.
Thank you!
You set the SS dial to the SS you want, then use the front or rear dial for 1/3rd adjustments. I did it on my Fuji xt2 all of the time.
Indeed. Many more steps than just adjusting one command dial especially if you need to make a major adjustment. If you like the two-dial method, I'm happy for you, but personally, I find it to be a pain, and more steps than are needed in a modern camera. As I mentioned in the video, there's a reason cameras evolved away from those awesome-looking dials. That reason in my opinion is efficiency.
I was very interested in this camera for its retro looks and functionality with a 24MP sensor but with xspd7. I love my Z8 and Z6iia but I miss my Z50. I was able to throw that camera in my bag and take it anywhere. If they can jam 10 bit record and xspeed7 I'll bite on a Z50ii.
I didn't even think about a Z50 II but I'd probably pull the trigger on that too but I'd rather have something that uses the ENEL-15 battery so it would need a slightly larger body than a z50. Z70 or Z90 is more of what I'm looking for. I hate the Z50/Zfc battery. It's just not good.
@@PhilThach that's was one of the down falls of the Z50 was that tiny battery but if XSP7 and 10-bit record are in the cards they will need to update that battery size.
I agree with your assessment. I'm excited they have brought down the Expeed 7 & autofocus. I'm hoping they will release the Nikon Z6iii/7iii with this soon! I'm always surprised at Nikon sometimes. I just don't see the market for these retro style cameras.
I sure do! When you do it right, you still can't get the x100v after over a year. M4/3 users are begging every live stream for a Pen F 2. The market is there if you do it right.
Thanks, Stephen! There are people who will want this camera and it might have been me if I hadn't already learned my lesson with the Zfc. :)
@@PhilThach It would have been me too. I really wanted the Df when it came out. After watching your videos and thinking about how i use my camera the dials wouldn’t be used. I’m holding out for the Z6iii replacement. In the meantime I’m happy with my z6ii.
Completely agree. I had an X-T3 and an and X-T4 and neither were comfortable to use even with grips added. I sold them and ended up with a Canon RP then R8 due to lightweight with a great grip. I feel that retro styled cameras like the Zf which look fantastic, but only work with small/pancake primes. Once you put a larger lens the concept falls apart.
I've been waiting for a flagship mirrorless DX, too, but doesn't the Zf make this less likely? A DX flagship would have about the same price as the Zf, which seems like bad market segmentation to me. Maybe it's finally time for stubborn D500/Z50 users like me to jump ship, unless NIkon sees comments like this and allays our fears with press leaks.
That's a good point. What is more likely than a DX flagship is a not quite flagship APSC camera like canon has done with the R7. Something around $1500
@@PhilThach That would be the right price, but then they might not offer the features I'm looking for, such as Z8-style autofocus and a silent shutter that lets me take photos of hummingbirds in flight, which is very difficult with the Z50. At $1,500, I imagine they could call it the Z50 II. We'll see. I think Nikon would sell a whole lot of these.
I have a z50.. which I love. Coming from full frame DSLRs (D3/D700). Nothing has made me desire for full frame yet until z9, z8…however both out of my budget. Z5 was nice but did not garner my attention as the z50 and Z24-70|2.8s gives me PRO results. The full frame Zf puts full frame with new af system in my budget. I’ve pre-ordered the 180600|6.3 but getting tired of waiting 😢. Maybe I should get the Zf (orange /green). As far as grip. Every Z camera outside Z 8,Z9 is small in my big hands (I can palm a basketball) easily. When I got z50 with its grip it was small also but comfortable with two fingers. Now when I mount the Z24-70|2.8s I picked up the camera and lens with left hand then brought up right hand to shoot. Many months later I have become so smooth and fast with this technique, I will never go back to gripping the camera first. But guess what I also noticed. The rubber grips on the camera is still intact after 3 years! In Bermuda 🇧🇲 with its high humidity this phenomena often happens after 2 years. I’m assuming with less contact with the camera the oils on my hands etc. have less of an impact. I also wrap the camera cord around my wrist thus when I do walk about it can dangle from 2 fingers. I say this also to say because I shoot with a Fuji xPro 3 and the 18|1.4 when doing street photography. This camera is like that of the Zf as far as grip is concerned. With smaller lenses I pick up the whole rig with one swoop of my hands. So I guess what I’m trying to say is that if you have larger hands you will be fine.
Well done ! I couldn't agree more. Love your honesty and command of the subject, when it comes to evaluating gear.
Thank you, Dan!
At an attempt to make a Camera for everybody Nikon implemented a thin camera for people with small hands, larger hands buy the grip. As far as a Shutter-Speed dial is concerned the whole idea of the Dials is to slow you down and also to teach the process of using, the speeds and aperture‘s to control your exposure and think about which ones you are using. But let’s face it the third step Shutter-Speed setting is much more useable at times. If you don’t need specific speeds, use the third step at least you have the option. It’s a very capable camera for what it looks like, although I’m looking at buying the Zfc because I already have a Z5 and I made my own grip. I want the crop sensor. With pixel shift it works well as a high res landscape camera as well. Something that no other Nikon has.Cheaper than a Z7. Good review though thanks for sharing.😊regards Gerry
As some others have said, this is probably a technology testbed with things like the improved IBIS and pixel shift. I'm equally excited that all that will come to what will probably be the Z6 III and Z7 III. I can't imagine that the Z6 II will get many sales right now. So I would expect a successor before long. The Z7 II still has a resolution advantage at a competitive price point, so its sales will probably not be as affected. But I would expect both to be replaced, hopefully sometime early next year. And yes, they could also do with more variation in the APS-C line.
Thank you!
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One of the reasons I bought the Fuji X-S20 was that large grip on a small camera. I like video too so I’m fine with the PASM which is more handy for custom settings. Those retro cameras are nice looking though
Thank you, I agree!
Great points on the new Nikon Phil. I saw that the shutter dial has a 1/3 step setting. I wonder if that would allow setting the shutter speeds between say, 1000 and 2000. Anyway I agree with you. It’s a beautiful retro camera and looks a lot like my FM2, but I would say using all the top dials for setting exposure would be much slower than the different dials I’m used to. Still a beautiful camera though.
Thank you I sure there is a contrived way to get to the in between speeds, but it would be easier to only have to use one command dial for shutter speed.
I really like the old school styling of the Zf and Fuji models. The lack of grip seems like it would add to the vintage feel. I was pleasantly surprised when I first saw Nikon release this, even though it's not something I would ever buy.
I was going to try to make a comment about Olympus changing dials on an EM 5 or 10 to complete the look. It occurred to me stickers or 3D printed dial caps on a used body would be cheaper😂
Enjoyed hearing your thoughts👍
Thank you! I like your sticker idea! :)
The B&W switch seems like a great idea, which would be welcome on all body styles in future.
It really is a good idea, I agree!
Me too excited for this switch when I shoot street I set a custom dial for this
The grip and the smaller SD card is a deal breaker for me. I do like the looks and if I was buying a dedicated street and travel camera, this would be it. That camera is not really made for long lenses that weigh around 4 + pounds. It's made more for pancake type lenses. That's why the 40mm it's in one of the bundles. It's not a pancake lens but it's close enough. I love that lens. It's a great street photography lens and will work at a portrait lens. I mostly shoot in manual mode and I use auto ISO in changing light conditions. I don't have time to change the ISO back and forth. I'm excited too about this camera because it gives me a glimpse of what might be in the z6/z7 III bodies. But I really want that z8.
Thanks for the nice comment! The microSD card doesn’t bother me. It wouldn’t even bother me if it only had one slot, but it is an exciting camera for the future of Nikon.
Hi Phil whatever happened to your wish list camera - an APSc Z 90 to replace the discontinued Nikon D 500? Agree, all of us would rather have the Z90 than a Zf to click our Bird photographs.....
I think they should come out with it in the next year or two, I just got word that my 180-600 has arrived so I will be ready when they finally make a Z 90 (or even Z70).
Your comments are very thoughtful. Not a fanboy, not a basher! Your outlook resonates with me because I too have been an APS-C shooter for some years (D7500), in multiple genres. I'm subscribing and I'm going to check out your previous posts.
Thank you! I really appreciate it.
I’m waiting for a FF rangefinder style from Lumix. I didn’t mind the top dials but I too found myself not using them as much.
Thank you, Hassan!
well thought out review.
Thank you, Jeff!
This one would look soooo good next to my Nikomat FTN and EL bodies. It's the first camera in years that I wanted to buy the moment I saw it. Just wish the current economy would allow it. 😅
It does look really great!
Love your videos Phill.
Thank you, Carlos!
Hi Phil. That Smallrig Zfc grip ypu held up. Has the grip one one end and the L shape bracket on the other end. I cant find these listed anywhere. Only Grip and base plate.
That smallrig grip with the L bracket and the wooden grip is for the Fujifilm XT3.
Nikon has to come out with new cameras, and I think that the most wanted is Nikon Z6 III. I'm sure that the new Z6 MIII will have this new focus system, new expeed 7 image processor. Will be interesting to see the price for it.
I could definitely see the Z6III coming out before the APSC camera I am excited about. It’s basically already completed. They just have to put the ZF in a Z6II body.
You are right about the grip but I think that Smallrig has solved the problem. The shutter speed dial is something I haven't used either. The other big con on the zfc and the zf is it's size. If you put a big lens on them, they get lost and look ridiculous! I wish Nikon would make smaller lenses in size. They would look amazing not only on the zfc and zf but on all their cameras. Nikon is pairing the zf with "the brick" the 24-70 f4. It looks horrible and feels like your doing weight lifting!
And that 24-70 f/4 is pretty small compared to many Z lenses. I think it looks great with the 40 f/2 lens.
It’s going to lay the ground work for future Z caneras now as you know I mentioned. Bring on that D500 mirrorless.
Maybe 2024 will be the year. 🤞
I really love it 👌👌👌👌👌
Thank you!
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always Phil 👍🤗
Thank you!
Please, explain how to set AUTO ISO on Nikon Zf.
It's in the photo shooting menu under ISO sensitivity settings.
@@PhilThach
thanks.
G’Day Phil
G'Day! :)
I get that some photographers love these retro style bodies but l think Nikon should have looked after the more serious photographer who buys in that price range, Z6iii for example.
I think the Z6II will probably be the next full frame camera from Nikon. Maybe they will announce it at the same time as the Z90 that I'm hoping for! :)
💯% Phil👍
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Great content as usual!
Thank you!
Very impressive camera with its retro style design borrowed from Nikon FM2 ! But sadly it is not provided by those old quality retro style Nikkor lenses! Those available or provided by Nikon (40mm & 28mm) are not quality lenses and are cheaply plastic lenes - no comparison to Nikkor old lenses ! After all, it is the lens that takes pictures and not the body . I rather go for Fujifilm with its fine & well made metal lenses .
Fuji-film's focus system and X-tran sensor ended my brief experiment with Fuji-film when I had an XT-3 a couple of years ago. I agree, the fuji-film lenses are nice.
FF = Nice , Expeed 7 Auto Focusing = Double Nice but Why only 24 M pixels >> Deal Breaker for me I need to be able to go DX when I want/Need to >> Biggest deal breaker however is SD cards >> I have never owneda Nikon SD Card Camera >> I only have expensive XQD and CF Express Cards >> Not going backwards now >> guess my last ever camera ever will be Z7 III when its announced >> but well done Nikon >> hitting it out the Park with Lovely Low End 180-600 (I m getting the 400 f4.5 though plus the 2 Convertors togo with my 70-200 S
Phil nothing would please me more is to see you back in the Big N Brand
I bet the Z7III will have this autofocus system and the Expeed 7 processor. You're going to love it! :)
This new Nikon has retro functionalities....so it should be a photographic tool only and not a mix with uncomplete videos functionalities. So I would have love this Nikon to have none of the video features and the appropriate photo tilt screen. Video and photo are two different craft that use different tools. The sensors should be different, the processing, the shutter etc.... These kind of Suisse knives do not satify photographers neither videographers.
That is why you see people constantly changing gear because they never get what they are looking for.
Thanks for watching and I appreciate you sharing your opinion!
I use my camera for entire days, and as long as i can buy retro style, i will always choose one over the awful modern styles they make today.
Sounds like this camera is perfect for you, I hope you enjoy it! :)
This looks pretty stupid. I don’t miss my FM that I sold in 99!