Boonedox Landing Gear Install on 2019 Hobie Outback
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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Step by step guide for installing the Boonedox landing gear on a 2019 Hobie Outback.
Great video! You thought your way through the install intelligently. Measure twice and cut once. Especially how you kept an even cut on the center bar and even deburring it before installation. Great attention to detail and without overly excessive commentary. Thank you for sharing this sir! 😀
Glad it helped!
Yeah man Southern Reels puts out quality informative content. A true inspiration
After watching a few install videos where people were struggling and flipping kayaks to install , I came across yours and after watching it and following what you did it was a breeze to install. Thank You Jessie!!
Glad I could help!
I was hesitant at first but I followed these steps and it went easy 🤓. The part about needing to run a tap through the 5/16 thread's on the backing bars was especially helpful. All 4 of mine needed it. I also had to cut the wheel mounting bars past the outside hole (3.5") so i could clear the hull on raising and lowering without the gear coming out of the base
Thanks for the video. Mine just arrived. They now have the option on their website to order the 2019 model. This will make it a lot easier to install mine. I was just going to roll with it an figure it out. You made it look easy.
Man I am glad to be able to help! You will love the gear it works great!
Hey, thanks for making these videos! I ordered the kit. Im now hearing that this can crack my kayak plastic, even if I don't over tighten when installing. I have a 2021 outback. Have you had any issues?
Now that you have had them on for a while has the hall shown and signs damage from the backing bar? The new groovey Bar looks like a better mount but I have no rear hatch to put the stiffener plate. Wondering whether to save up for both items.
No signs of damage at all, and I have mounted it on 3 different Hobies. The mounting can be done from the front hatch, just remove any foam support blocks to give you enough room to fish the plates into place. The same wire trick should work.
doing this to a hobie void the warranty ??? That's what I keep hearing I have a pro angler and really really need that set up but I dont wanna make holes on it if it would void the warranty?
No i dont think it would. The main item that you want the warranty to cover if there are any issues is the drive.
That wire trick was excellent
Thanks!
Thanks, I also have sand wheel from hobie, which kit did you buy from wheeleez, 1” axle bushing?
Not sure, i think that is right. I got it through Boonedox so it is whatever they recommend
Jesse, who did you order your Hobie through? I was in VA beach and visited Wild River, but they had no new hobies in Stock.
go to outdoor provision company off the boulevard
Have you had any issues with the plastic cracking issue? Where the back of the vantage seat touches plastic.
None yet
I noticed you mention you didn't need the rear hatch mod too install the backer bar. You mentioned something about foam? Is the foam accessible from the front hatch. Can it be removed and put back without damaging? Does it need to be removed to use the string trick? Thanks!
Yes the foam is just wedged in place to support the weight of the seat and standing areas. You can just pull it out to give you access to get the mounts into place. When your done just stuff the foam back into place.
Your grage is incredible
This the old Boonedox gear I've been researching there's a new one that install/bolts closer to the center with smaller brackets, I personally didn't like how it installed so close to the edge. Trying to find a video of the new style being installed
There may be will have to look, should be similar installation though
Jesse, The 2019 OB that I pick up on Sunday has this landing gear on it. I was just cautioned about it by an owner of a large yak accessory company. He advised that the weight of the yak can pull down on the mounting area and that over time, the backing plate/bolts have pulled through causing holes in the yak and voiding warranties. Stated hot days make it worse. Any signs of such wear on your yak yet? (this company sells a really nice cradle style cart, so he could be overly biased).
Over a years usage on 3 different Hobie kayaks and no issues period. Biggest thing I see on the new Outback that might cause a problem is whoever installed the mount might overtighten the bolts which would cause the hull to spread and possibly crack over time. It would be easy to see this because there would be a bulge in the hill right under the mount.
Do you have trouble with water coming over the bow with your 2019 compared to your 2017 Hobie?
Yes it definitely rides low in the front compared to the older Outback. I have never had it cause any major issues since my hatch seals good and most of the water just goes out of the foot well. But it is a wetter ride in rough conditions.
Any cracks yet? I've found two other videos about this landing gear cracking the hull after a while.
Nope. 4 years, 3 different kayaks and no cracks. People are either tightening the mounts too tight or are overloading the kayak from what I figure
After some use wouldn’t those holes where you mounted the bracket start splitting the kayak? I wouldn’t want to drill any holes in a pricey kayak.
I've had it on 3 different yaks and have never had a problem. trick is to just snug the bolts up, don't overtighten them.
Thanks for posting a very informative video here, one question AKC told me to purchase the one for a pro angler to install on my 2019 outback ? It’s more $ , can I get your opinion on this ? Thanks.
Yes call the manufacturer directly and buy from them. That way you get the right solution
Perfect timing!
A landing gear for my 2019 outback was just delivered and this video will be helpful!
1 question I have,
When you tightened the screws to the round backing rod do you just snug it up lightly or are you completely tightening it down?
I’m concerned the round backing rod will deform the hull after time?
I bass fish and usually bring 5-6 rods and lots of bass gear which adds quite a bit of weight to the outback. The added weight of my gear is sure to add extra stress to the mounting area.
After owning the landing gear on a few previous kayaks it’s now a must have for me!
Makes things so much easier!
I go hand tight only, and thats with a T handle not a ratchet.
@@SouthernReelsFishing Do you use thread locker?
Excellent video! You must be a teacher.
No I am definitely not a teacher, but thanks for the compliment
@@SouthernReelsFishing I just ordered two for my Hobie outbacks and waiting on delivery. Can't wait.
Why don’t you pull the bungee underneath the wheels over the axle to keep them from bouncing?
Will try that
Will the wheels and extension arms fit inside the front hatch of the 2019 outback?
Maybe a PA 14
how is the boonedox landing gear holding up is there any damage to the hull?
I have had it on 3 yaks now and never a single issue. I think the problem people have is they overtighten the mounts. I use sealant and loctite and tighten the mounting bolts to where they are just snug. definitely don't want to go so tight that it start deforming the hull around the mount.
@@SouthernReelsFishing how much does the setup weigh?
I like those wheels much better than the stock hard ones. My only complaint with boonedox is the wide bracket. Just the square bar designed with thru bolts through the bracket, a backplate and through center round bar would be much cleaner and just as strong or stronger.
It does seem way overkill, almost like it developed for something else much larger
Southern Reels Fishing I wouldn’t spend the money to try it, but I’m pretty sure you could mill those side brackets off completely and drill through the bracket then thru hull backing bar/plate.
Lol it was funny when you said time to drill some holes in your brand new kayak
How would you install it without the back hatch on the kayak? BTW great vid.
Just do it through the front hatch
Do they work? A nice touch,would have been showing the transition ,up to down. Just saying.
Yes they work great! Sorry didn't think of that
I looked at my 2020 outback and where the bolts go is extremely thin plastic and not wide. I am not sure I like the looks of it.
Almost 2 years now and no issues at all...
Got any vids of it In use.... Putting in and taking out of various surfaces?
Not just for that reason. random in some of my intros and outros
Does doing mods like this void the warranty? Thanks.
Yup
Can't wait to see this thing on the water
Had it out twice so far, want to get a few more trips in before I review it again.
Excellent video!! I really was amazed with that wire trick; you make it look too easy. Boone Dox should have given you that set just so that you could this video for them. I agree that the wheel arms look better set more internally. It will also decrease any obstruction the protruding arms have along docks or tree limbs. The only thing that I am uncomfortable with is the fact that you are wedging that round bar stock into a wedge cavity. I think you are only inviting a split in the upper gunnel. How about mounting the system to the inner gunnel just internal to the storage cavity. It has a nice flat area 1/2 inch lower to the outer edge that you are using. There should be no splitting forces to the kayak. Just a thought. Hope this holds up in the long term for you. Each rock and bump is like taking a hammer to the wheel leg. Looking forward to the next video
Great point about the mounting issue. I did not tighten the mounting bolts very much, and I used blue threadlocker to keep them from working loose. I tightened the bolt until I saw it just starting to spread the plastic slighty and then stopped. The hull is very thick there and I feel it will hold up just fine. I guess time will tell
I am hoping it works out well for you. If you get a fracture, I think that Hobie will not honor the warranty after mounting this wheel set-up. At least that's the last that I have heard. I am thinking about having a stainless steel plate cut out for the flat area just 3.5 inches inside of the current location, and having it tapped for threads. If you are into engineering, it's a bad combination with a round stock fitted to a wedge shaped cavity. You may have better luck with smooth asphalt driveways, but here at the ocean, the wheels have a tougher time on sand and smaller rocks. Exiting the surf also is tougher on the kayak because of the wave action. It wouldn't be so bad if the kayak were covered under warranty or if it were cheaper. Good luck.
Boonedox has an option to mount on the flat area as an alternative to the narrower gunnel install. By ordering the standard kit you’ll get the necessary hardware and reinforcement plate to do the install. I just order it for my 2019 outback.
What size bushing did you have to get to convert to the wheeleez tires?
Should be the 25.4 mm bushing set for the beach wheels. May have to call wheeleze to get the part #, I don't see it listed on their web page at this point.
Thanks!! Just purchased the landing gear and would like to use the beach wheels if I ever launch on the beach.
How did you remove the foam on the inside of the hull? I guess I’m asking what method did you use
Where is the demonstration after this installation ?!?
Just put it on my 2020 PA14.....It is wonderful !!!
Great video, have it on my pa 12, about to on my new compass
Cool man! And thanks!
Great job
I had the same issue with the backer rods not being correctly tapped. Ended up stripping a hex bolt on one side. Frustrated and pressed for time I left one side secured with only one bolt. Worked fine until I took the outback over a rocky terrain. Ended up bending the aluminum mount on the side that was poorly fastened. Boonedox doesn’t sell individual parts so had to order new landing gear without the tires. It’s a great product but a definite quality control issue with that specific part.
Yeah it caught me the first time. I was lucky to have the tools on site I needed to correct it, only because I was a mechanic in a former life lol
Awesome video. Will be my next investment
You won't be sorry
Never any deformation?
None so far, just have to be careful how far you tighten the moult bolts, don;t go all the way tight, just until you see it spreading slightly and stop. Also never store it on the wheels...
Great video..
No need to waste time drilling and installing, Hobie sells a set of wheels that go into the existing holes in the Outbacks or Pro Anglers
Yes I used them for years and they suck. Also they are notorious for causing stress cracks in the hull around the scupper holes where you insert them.
I agree with you Jesse the hobie scupper wheels suck because you have to roll your kayak over in order to get the wheels on. Now check around real good to make sure your gear isn’t floating away lol!
The product is good, although it's extremely difficult to install. The problem is that the people at this company are AWFUL to customers. I ordered a small box of bolts and knuckle hardware from them. The first problem was that they charged $43 to ship a small box from North Carolina to my house in CT. That's absurd. The next issue is that when I needed to return a couple of the parts, my email to customer service was ignored for a week. When they finally did reply, this is what I was told:
"To be honest I would try to sell what you do not need because I am going to explain our return policy. You send back the parts that you do not need and once they arrive we inspect them; upon inspection we issue a refund of the product price minus a $25.00 restocking fee"
So yeah - good product, but terrible to install, and the company doesn't seem to care about the customers. I'd buy something else if I could do it all again.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with them. Kind of surprises me because I have had great service from them. And it's not because my RUclips channel or anything because as far as they knew I was just a random customer. I don't know maybe something has changed on their end
First
Are the c tug wheels an option when purchasing?
Yes they are, or were when I purchased