as somebody who is best at writing fics from 1000-5000 words, i was blown away when the asker at the beginning said 20k was a shorter fic, haha. writing something that's hundreds of thousands of words is way out of reach for me
I generally judge fic lengths by what feels short to read than short to write. 20k fics can be over in 2-3 hours for me, shorter for others. Multi-six figure fics happen to be most of what I write because that's how much story my ideas need. I wish I my track record for finishing oneshots was as good as my track record for finishing longfics
As someone who's been trying (and failing. RIP my abandoned fics, I'll get back to them!) to commit to a longfic for awhile now, this video has been a great help! It made me think a lot about the premises and plots that I have come up with before, and what I could possibly change about them to help support a longfic... when I realised I already have a cannon divergence retelling sitting on my Ao3 profile! I wrote a oneshot a little bit ago back in March which got a lot of love and people asking for more, but I had no idea how to continue the story. Thank you so much for this video, (and the next one I'm gonna watch) I feel motivated to keep trying now!
Wow I'm really glad this video helped! It's always nice to know how my tips help people through their specific fanfic-related problems, so thanks for sharing 💖
Yeah good luck on all of that pal!! I am sure they are great and that you can do it! And for your oneshot, maybe write fown a few scenario ideas you've made up in your head in paralel to the oneshot? It's how I make mine in the first place, to be honest!
RPGs with multiple dialogue options and/or endings are easily THE best candidates for canon retellings. You can pretty much look at them as prompt generators for a more fleshed out story (one of my favorite examples is the first Dragon Age game, because it has multiple endings AND multiple beginnings, but the game itself isn't able to go into *too* much detail exploring the ramifications of each different path for obvious reasons)
Hello fellow fic-writers! Hope you enjoyed this video and found it helpful. Did it help you narrow down your premise, throughline, POVs, and character arcs? Tell me all about it! 💖
Yeah it helped me to actually narrow the important povs and maybe have desperate stories of different povs and how the ships develop but have one man ship that tells the whole story and the other seperate ones can just be just important relationship building scenes that show what the main pov missed but not everything so as to lead the reader maybe to read the main pov story to get all info o.o
@@KamillsWorld I'm really glad this video helped you narrow down your POVs! I know I had to fight the temptation to have more than three (though I later add a forth and try to use it as little as possible).
Yeah I think I've got it! I am already writing a long fic and am planning on starting another one in a few months! So it was very useful! So thank you!
Love the video! One struck-me-funny note: I wonder whether maybe retellings are a lot more popular in your fandoms specifically... I don't think I've ever even seen one, let alone read one. Unless I'm not getting what a retelling is, beyond the obvious.
Since my primary fandom is for a video game, there is a lot more room to get creative when adapting to fanfiction form. Each author has different interpretations of how the more video-game-like elements would play out in prose. Another favourite retelling of mine is of a cartoon show. It switches some things up, adds a ton of missing scenes, ties in bonus and non-canon official content, and does a good job capturing the characters' inner thoughts. If the source material of your fandom is a book or a manga, though, I can see retellings being less common. There's less distance between the mediums, and thus less to add in.
I’ve seen/read several retellings of series/tv-shows from a different character’s POV, those can be pretty interesting if it’s the villain who’s the mc instead and we get to follow their journey and how they view e.g. the original mc (who might turn out to be not such good person after all etc.).
cora: Don't tackle too many POVs! Six is already too much. me, a polyamorous wreck of a man juggling 20+ povs in several google doc note files: And I took that personally. (i'm already at 71k words and will probably reach ten times that number by the end. i feel no one was meant to read my fic and live and i am ok with that.)
Wow ... the promising premises were a list of all the fics I don't enjoy. Guess I won't get many readers for my new sequel longfic. But I will not change the plot, since writing it is more fun than anything I ever wrote. And I write fanfics since over 30 years - having started in 3rd grade. I will try to make it as good as possible, but I can't make it an au.
Sequel fics that mostly rehash the same kind of conflict as the canon of a completed still get a lot of reads, but I don't like them much because of the reasons outlined. I can see them work better if the protagonist has their pre-existing advantages taken away. Good on you for sticking with your idea, though! The last thing I want is for anyone to take my opinions as gospel.
@@CoraMaria Thank you for your kind feedback. At least it is a cancled/paused show and I didn't take the route the show's creators had hinted at in interviews, before the project was put on ice. So when a season 3 will ever be produced, my fanfic will still be its own thing.
@@acsaudiodramas If you're continuing an incomplete story, that's not the kind of sequel fic I dislike, because there's still room for character growth and power creep and the like 😊
And then of course you could just write one of those endless harem fics that seem to clutter the pairing tags all the time. Anyway, I really enjoyed the video. I think it will help me brainstorm on how to finish some of my longfics.
Hey! I was waiting for this video :) Thank you! In fact, your videos really help to understand not the most obvious things. This is cool! Thanks to your videos, writing fanfiction doesn't seem hard or complicated. And I was also motivated by the latest videos and finally finished writing a fanfic that I wrote for a year. Thank you so much for the positive in your videos, I will look forward to the second part this video and all the other videos ❤ All the best!
i'd like to say, as someone who cannot write a regular sized fic (10k+) and usually, if i come up with an idea worth making me like a fic i want to write, i end up coming up with too many ideas for that one fic and then it becomes a trilogy, it's very hard to stop because i took a year just planning and writing, i posted two versions, one from when it was just a regular fic, and another one, updated, which only has 5 9very short) chapters in a half year, so while i am still committed to finishing that story, it's grown so big because of the world i put them in, and how i have to subtly edit my world to fit the themes and context i originally wanted, and now the characters are more like unfortunate randos stuck in a not-so different from my og stories-world, with the same conflict from my og world what they have to over-come. btw, it's just a zombie apocalypse AU, then I decided to make it fantasy, because the characters can be hybrids in some versions of their media, but then i'd have to diversify the zombies a lot, so I worked around it to make the zombies their own species, then I realized I could create a fantasy-based reason for the apocalypse, so now evil goddess is behind stuff, and now I don't even know how to include the rest of the og source material, because the last 4 months of planning was just me figuring out ways to mutate the zombies similar to the 100!Day SCU video. and adding more and more fantasy elements until I fell out the fandom and got into HBIC fic AU's for MLB :/
I don't think there's such thing as a "regular-sized fic". Something I'm noticing about us fanfic writers is that we come up with these ideas of what the ideal/typical fic is and it's always something our own works are not. Really, your experiences with writing echo my own, so it sounds like a pretty normal process to me, but I also know it's not that normal to most people, and that's okay. If you want to edit your worldbuilding and concepts down though (so your fanfic is less daunting but still rich in concept), you might find this article helpful: mythcreants.com/blog/how-why-you-should-consolidate-your-story/
@@CoraMaria Interesting, I'll to check it out! On the topic of a 'regular-sized fic' I mostly meant the usual size that I would see in various works I've read, shortest is usually 10k or close, and long fics for me usually range from 200k and more. I get that everyone else has different 'normal sized-fic' ranges, so I understand the 'no such thing as regular-sized fics'. I've never actually thought of the whole 'ideal fic isn't what you actually write' thing and tbf, it's true. My ideal idea of a fic is massive fics I've spent weeks reading, written by experienced adults. All of these include re-worked world-building and sometimes an entirely new plot and goal compared to the Original source.
I've written 242 pages of SCP Foundation fanfiction in 16-point Square Peg font (which is smaller than you think) in a Google Doc over the course of around Dec 22 last year to now. It revolves around, basically, there being 7 amulets like Dr. Bright's (I don't support Duckman, just think Elias Shaw is a crap name) and when the 7th one is inhabited, it summons the Scarlet King. It's messy and cringey, but exponentially better than my first fic, where Bright and co. go to D&D world, and I'm proud of myself for writing it. This video really helped!
These vids are a joy to listen to thank you! Trying to decide if i should really do a longfic myself or maybe try to condense the premise i have and this really helps, onto part 2! =)
Either or is fine! I have been writing a script about oneshots that goes a little bit into what kind of premises work there, so maybe that second perspective might help you decide?
If you need some help picking apart a through line, it's a fic that's a little long but Diaries of the Anonymous Filly (yes it's an mlp fic) is probably my favorite example. The entire story ties together in a way that's honestly magical. I won't spoil too much, but the story ends as the main character begins to tell it. That's confusing, but essentially the main character ends the story off retelling their experience, and the first words they start with are the very first words of the book. For a story that's sometimes dark and more often than not sad, the way the beginning and end lines are conveyed in completely different emotions does a great job of showing the characters growth
Woaww!! Awesome advice!! Thank you for the wonderful quality vids and the super sweet and respectful her energetic attitude! You truly are a blessing to the fanfic writing community! So thank you!
No idea if you’ll see this. I want to write a long fic with a Sleeper Agent au. It’s basically a retelling of the canon story but with that. I have no idea if this even makes for a good fic or if people will even want to read it. I’m struggling on how to make the first chapter longer as its 700ish words. A flashback to when the POV character was a kid
I have a retelling of Cars 1 fic where Lightning falls on love with Mater instead of Sally [it's called Life in the Fast Lane on ao3 if anyone is curious enough]
Yes yes they're my fave! Usually the best way to get my slowburn Midlink content haha. Even though my own fic is more so canon-divergent, it does have a lot of similarities to retellings. I mean, it's pretty much "Twilight Princess AU where nearly everything is the same except my OC villain exists." He's the guy who rips the table cloth out from under the original plot of the game, causing everything to scatter and a different story to unfold.
@@CoraMaria Ooh that's great! I've been thinking about doing some more with a series I like, to be honest, when I'll gain the necessary audience with another fic I am thinking of writing. Yeah I get that lol! Haha I get that lmao! Mine in this case would have differenr narrative elements so my OC could even get in the story, but it is a narrative follow-up of one of the episodes (even if the last one is going to come out pretty soon!) Ohhh yeah I think I remember something like that??
I know I'm one year late on this but I'm just wondering : is it good maybe reading other people's Wattpad stories to get inspiration? Or is it like copying their work?
So long as you aren't legitimately copying entire chapters, read in order to write. All works are derivative, so it's not a bad idea to look at how someone tackles a plot you want to use
So I have a fanfic story about Sirius Black that I've been developing since I finished the Prisoner of Azkaban in the spring. The story was supposed to be a one time story where Sirius falls in love with a muggle woman he meets while he's a fugitive. However, it turned into me trying to rewrite the other Harry Potter books to include Sirius and his love interest. Sirius and my character Emily have great chemistry, and their characters are well fleshed out, but with the way their story goes it contradicts with the plot of the Goblet of Fire. In the Goblet of Fire, Sirius is supposed to be in a cave with Buckbeak outside of Hogsmeade. However, in my version of events he's still in England with the OC I wrote. How do I fix this so that everything falls into place?😅
Please tell me more about your OTP, Twilight Princess is pretty nostalgic to me and I can see their dynamic and I lobe to hear people ramble about that kind of stuff!!
I could go on forever and ever about all the reasons why I love them, but here's something I love about their early dynamic that I think a lot of fic writers (and even Akira Himekawa who did the manga) tend to misunderstand: In the game, it was an unwelcome but mutually beneficial partnership. They're using each other: kinda toxic but very much equal. He even shows some bite towards her so she knows he won't just take her teasing and ultimatums lying down. In that cutscene where they meet, he isn't shy about showing his initial displeasure of her, so it's in Midna's best interest to properly motivate Link. "I'll take you into the twilight but you need to steal a sword and shield for me first. Oh, there's a dark power I need that's hidden in the forest temple. I bet your kidnapped friends are there too, waiting for you to rescue them, and if they aren't there? At least I'll have what I need, and then I'll take you to the next twilight covered region." It starts out very transactional between them, which is why it's so satisfying when it slowly becomes something more, until Midna's Lament when it's finally unconditional. It's also why I hate whenever people, whether lovers or haters of this ship, flanderise that early dynamic into abuse, with Link as the victim and Midna as the perpetrator, and then Midna is still seen as worthy of forgiveness. The manga especially is guilty of this, with Midna electrocuting Link the moment he expresses hesitancy to work with her. Not only does it make her seem unlikeable and uncunning, but it was completely unnecessary. She already had all the leverage she needed: she was his only hope of getting out of that cell, finding out what was going on, repelling the twilight, and saving his friends. Anyone who writes Midna as using violence (or the threat of it) to get Link to do what she wants completely ignores the fact that she actually has to negotiate with him. She isn't a nice or polite negotiator, but she is an effective one. Hope that helps.
@@CoraMaria Don't worry, I could listen to that for hours on end! Yeah! And that sounds like a very unique and interesting dynamic especially playing around with such a fascinating, dark, but fantastical world that could play out and has a lot of potential to develop into so many fascinating ways! Heck, if I someday will play that game or re-watch a let's play of it (until the end, this time) then maybe I'll see it too! It really seems interesting and has a great dynamic I could totally dig!! So yeah I can totally see the great appeal!! Yeah that sucks when people missinterpret something as cool as that, espacially if they aren't willing to hear you out because of their own misbelief! Like, this seems super cool and I could see why they would think that but I think they just didn't look that hard into it or with some kind of bius. Even I, as a young kid free to roam on the Internet at the time and happily watching the first episodes of my favourite french let's plaus again and again saw how their dynamic was pretty cool, even if I was really to young to ship anything like I would today! And yeah it sucks when even some of the source material messes things up like that, which doesn't help with people not seeing it as that. And yeah I too don't like when a character or dynamic or even ship I am attached to are deformed like that, it sort of sucks but on the other hand it can motivate us to prove the world wrong with any kind of fanart or in this case a nice little fanfic! In the end, everyone has their own little versions of a certain media depending on what we know of said media, our past experiences in life along with other stuff like our own experience with said media. And that isn' t a bad thing, it gives us more ideas to work with! Let's just all try and ought to not deform it to greatly and call it canon, respect eachother's opinion for the most part and especially never romanticise anything unhealthy! And were good like that. And who knows, maybe this way we'll get to have more cool AUs? And yeah it does! Made me reflect on things and that's great! I love to talk about things to people like that.
I’m great at writing awesome summaries but translating those strangely detailed summary/outlines into actual chapters is very hard for me. Anyone want to adopt a Sofia the First outline?
So I can help you better, what specifically is hard about it? Also people post ideas and outlines of fics instead of full fics on Tumblr all the time, so that might be the place to go if you want to share that kind of thing.
@@CoraMaria honestly, I’m not entirely sure what’s holding me up. The outlines are helpful for if I picture a specific scene I then know exactly what chapter it goes in. It’s all the scenes that bridge scenes that can be tough. I know I don’t have to describe every action in painstaking detail but some transitions are necessary so that the reader isn’t just dropped into drama or action. Thanks for offering to help.
as somebody who is best at writing fics from 1000-5000 words, i was blown away when the asker at the beginning said 20k was a shorter fic, haha. writing something that's hundreds of thousands of words is way out of reach for me
I generally judge fic lengths by what feels short to read than short to write. 20k fics can be over in 2-3 hours for me, shorter for others. Multi-six figure fics happen to be most of what I write because that's how much story my ideas need. I wish I my track record for finishing oneshots was as good as my track record for finishing longfics
Don’t worry, everyone their ideal lenght!
As someone who's been trying (and failing. RIP my abandoned fics, I'll get back to them!) to commit to a longfic for awhile now, this video has been a great help! It made me think a lot about the premises and plots that I have come up with before, and what I could possibly change about them to help support a longfic... when I realised I already have a cannon divergence retelling sitting on my Ao3 profile! I wrote a oneshot a little bit ago back in March which got a lot of love and people asking for more, but I had no idea how to continue the story. Thank you so much for this video, (and the next one I'm gonna watch) I feel motivated to keep trying now!
Wow I'm really glad this video helped! It's always nice to know how my tips help people through their specific fanfic-related problems, so thanks for sharing 💖
Yeah good luck on all of that pal!! I am sure they are great and that you can do it!
And for your oneshot, maybe write fown a few scenario ideas you've made up in your head in paralel to the oneshot? It's how I make mine in the first place, to be honest!
Watching this ticking off things my current WIP has makes me so proud of myself lol
OK the sundae signage in the back of every video makes way much more sense now.
RPGs with multiple dialogue options and/or endings are easily THE best candidates for canon retellings. You can pretty much look at them as prompt generators for a more fleshed out story (one of my favorite examples is the first Dragon Age game, because it has multiple endings AND multiple beginnings, but the game itself isn't able to go into *too* much detail exploring the ramifications of each different path for obvious reasons)
Hello fellow fic-writers! Hope you enjoyed this video and found it helpful. Did it help you narrow down your premise, throughline, POVs, and character arcs? Tell me all about it! 💖
Yeah it helped me to actually narrow the important povs and maybe have desperate stories of different povs and how the ships develop but have one man ship that tells the whole story and the other seperate ones can just be just important relationship building scenes that show what the main pov missed but not everything so as to lead the reader maybe to read the main pov story to get all info o.o
@@KamillsWorld I'm really glad this video helped you narrow down your POVs! I know I had to fight the temptation to have more than three (though I later add a forth and try to use it as little as possible).
Yeah I think I've got it! I am already writing a long fic and am planning on starting another one in a few months! So it was very useful! So thank you!
@@KamillsWorld that's great!! :D gl with your writing! ^^
Love the video! One struck-me-funny note: I wonder whether maybe retellings are a lot more popular in your fandoms specifically... I don't think I've ever even seen one, let alone read one. Unless I'm not getting what a retelling is, beyond the obvious.
Since my primary fandom is for a video game, there is a lot more room to get creative when adapting to fanfiction form. Each author has different interpretations of how the more video-game-like elements would play out in prose.
Another favourite retelling of mine is of a cartoon show. It switches some things up, adds a ton of missing scenes, ties in bonus and non-canon official content, and does a good job capturing the characters' inner thoughts.
If the source material of your fandom is a book or a manga, though, I can see retellings being less common. There's less distance between the mediums, and thus less to add in.
I’ve seen/read several retellings of series/tv-shows from a different character’s POV, those can be pretty interesting if it’s the villain who’s the mc instead and we get to follow their journey and how they view e.g. the original mc (who might turn out to be not such good person after all etc.).
look at the fandoms who's creators are hated by the fandoms like supernatural
cora: Don't tackle too many POVs! Six is already too much.
me, a polyamorous wreck of a man juggling 20+ povs in several google doc note files: And I took that personally.
(i'm already at 71k words and will probably reach ten times that number by the end. i feel no one was meant to read my fic and live and i am ok with that.)
😂 Honestly I wasn't that great at following my own advice and added a fourth in Book 2 of my fic trilogy
Wow ... the promising premises were a list of all the fics I don't enjoy. Guess I won't get many readers for my new sequel longfic. But I will not change the plot, since writing it is more fun than anything I ever wrote. And I write fanfics since over 30 years - having started in 3rd grade. I will try to make it as good as possible, but I can't make it an au.
Sequel fics that mostly rehash the same kind of conflict as the canon of a completed still get a lot of reads, but I don't like them much because of the reasons outlined. I can see them work better if the protagonist has their pre-existing advantages taken away.
Good on you for sticking with your idea, though! The last thing I want is for anyone to take my opinions as gospel.
@@CoraMaria Thank you for your kind feedback. At least it is a cancled/paused show and I didn't take the route the show's creators had hinted at in interviews, before the project was put on ice. So when a season 3 will ever be produced, my fanfic will still be its own thing.
@@acsaudiodramas If you're continuing an incomplete story, that's not the kind of sequel fic I dislike, because there's still room for character growth and power creep and the like 😊
Do what you find fun! And OMG 30 years?! Soo cool!
And then of course you could just write one of those endless harem fics that seem to clutter the pairing tags all the time.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the video. I think it will help me brainstorm on how to finish some of my longfics.
Hey! I was waiting for this video :) Thank you! In fact, your videos really help to understand not the most obvious things. This is cool! Thanks to your videos, writing fanfiction doesn't seem hard or complicated. And I was also motivated by the latest videos and finally finished writing a fanfic that I wrote for a year. Thank you so much for the positive in your videos, I will look forward to the second part this video and all the other videos ❤ All the best!
Aww you're so welcome! I'm really glad my videos have helped you and I hope they continue to. Congrats on finishing your fic!
Loving your outfit, vibe, and attitude, as always!
Aww thanks again 💖
@@CoraMaria Well of course you deserve all the compliments💖💖
She looks like sunshine if it was a person
i'd like to say, as someone who cannot write a regular sized fic (10k+) and usually, if i come up with an idea worth making me like a fic i want to write, i end up coming up with too many ideas for that one fic and then it becomes a trilogy, it's very hard to stop because i took a year just planning and writing, i posted two versions, one from when it was just a regular fic, and another one, updated, which only has 5 9very short) chapters in a half year, so while i am still committed to finishing that story, it's grown so big because of the world i put them in, and how i have to subtly edit my world to fit the themes and context i originally wanted, and now the characters are more like unfortunate randos stuck in a not-so different from my og stories-world, with the same conflict from my og world what they have to over-come.
btw, it's just a zombie apocalypse AU, then I decided to make it fantasy, because the characters can be hybrids in some versions of their media, but then i'd have to diversify the zombies a lot, so I worked around it to make the zombies their own species, then I realized I could create a fantasy-based reason for the apocalypse, so now evil goddess is behind stuff, and now I don't even know how to include the rest of the og source material, because the last 4 months of planning was just me figuring out ways to mutate the zombies similar to the 100!Day SCU video. and adding more and more fantasy elements until I fell out the fandom and got into HBIC fic AU's for MLB :/
I don't think there's such thing as a "regular-sized fic". Something I'm noticing about us fanfic writers is that we come up with these ideas of what the ideal/typical fic is and it's always something our own works are not. Really, your experiences with writing echo my own, so it sounds like a pretty normal process to me, but I also know it's not that normal to most people, and that's okay.
If you want to edit your worldbuilding and concepts down though (so your fanfic is less daunting but still rich in concept), you might find this article helpful: mythcreants.com/blog/how-why-you-should-consolidate-your-story/
@@CoraMaria Interesting, I'll to check it out! On the topic of a 'regular-sized fic' I mostly meant the usual size that I would see in various works I've read, shortest is usually 10k or close, and long fics for me usually range from 200k and more. I get that everyone else has different 'normal sized-fic' ranges, so I understand the 'no such thing as regular-sized fics'.
I've never actually thought of the whole 'ideal fic isn't what you actually write' thing and tbf, it's true. My ideal idea of a fic is massive fics I've spent weeks reading, written by experienced adults. All of these include re-worked world-building and sometimes an entirely new plot and goal compared to the Original source.
Gl!
I'm so glad you are getting more fans!! You deserve much more!!
Your support is always appreciated~!
@@CoraMaria aww thank you! Your content is, too!
I've written 242 pages of SCP Foundation fanfiction in 16-point Square Peg font (which is smaller than you think) in a Google Doc over the course of around Dec 22 last year to now. It revolves around, basically, there being 7 amulets like Dr. Bright's (I don't support Duckman, just think Elias Shaw is a crap name) and when the 7th one is inhabited, it summons the Scarlet King. It's messy and cringey, but exponentially better than my first fic, where Bright and co. go to D&D world, and I'm proud of myself for writing it. This video really helped!
I wish you the very best in writing it~!
Sooo cool!
These vids are a joy to listen to thank you!
Trying to decide if i should really do a longfic myself or maybe try to condense the premise i have and this really helps, onto part 2! =)
Either or is fine! I have been writing a script about oneshots that goes a little bit into what kind of premises work there, so maybe that second perspective might help you decide?
@@CoraMaria Oooh yes very much would like to see, looking forward to that! 😁
Gold advice ❤✨
Thank-you!
If you need some help picking apart a through line, it's a fic that's a little long but Diaries of the Anonymous Filly (yes it's an mlp fic) is probably my favorite example. The entire story ties together in a way that's honestly magical. I won't spoil too much, but the story ends as the main character begins to tell it. That's confusing, but essentially the main character ends the story off retelling their experience, and the first words they start with are the very first words of the book. For a story that's sometimes dark and more often than not sad, the way the beginning and end lines are conveyed in completely different emotions does a great job of showing the characters growth
Woaww!! Awesome advice!! Thank you for the wonderful quality vids and the super sweet and respectful her energetic attitude! You truly are a blessing to the fanfic writing community! So thank you!
No idea if you’ll see this. I want to write a long fic with a Sleeper Agent au. It’s basically a retelling of the canon story but with that. I have no idea if this even makes for a good fic or if people will even want to read it.
I’m struggling on how to make the first chapter longer as its 700ish words. A flashback to when the POV character was a kid
I have a retelling of Cars 1 fic where Lightning falls on love with Mater instead of Sally [it's called Life in the Fast Lane on ao3 if anyone is curious enough]
Dang thank you for the advice they are super useful!! I'll try to keep them in mind ^^
Also you like retellings!? That's so cool!!
Yes yes they're my fave! Usually the best way to get my slowburn Midlink content haha. Even though my own fic is more so canon-divergent, it does have a lot of similarities to retellings. I mean, it's pretty much "Twilight Princess AU where nearly everything is the same except my OC villain exists." He's the guy who rips the table cloth out from under the original plot of the game, causing everything to scatter and a different story to unfold.
@@CoraMaria Ooh that's great! I've been thinking about doing some more with a series I like, to be honest, when I'll gain the necessary audience with another fic I am thinking of writing. Yeah I get that lol! Haha I get that lmao! Mine in this case would have differenr narrative elements so my OC could even get in the story, but it is a narrative follow-up of one of the episodes (even if the last one is going to come out pretty soon!) Ohhh yeah I think I remember something like that??
7:28 this sounds exactly like my fic
I know I'm one year late on this but I'm just wondering : is it good maybe reading other people's Wattpad stories to get inspiration? Or is it like copying their work?
So long as you aren't legitimately copying entire chapters, read in order to write. All works are derivative, so it's not a bad idea to look at how someone tackles a plot you want to use
So I have a fanfic story about Sirius Black that I've been developing since I finished the Prisoner of Azkaban in the spring. The story was supposed to be a one time story where Sirius falls in love with a muggle woman he meets while he's a fugitive. However, it turned into me trying to rewrite the other Harry Potter books to include Sirius and his love interest. Sirius and my character Emily have great chemistry, and their characters are well fleshed out, but with the way their story goes it contradicts with the plot of the Goblet of Fire. In the Goblet of Fire, Sirius is supposed to be in a cave with Buckbeak outside of Hogsmeade. However, in my version of events he's still in England with the OC I wrote.
How do I fix this so that everything falls into place?😅
You really don’t have to, ik I’m late, but an AU is cool as well!
Please tell me more about your OTP, Twilight Princess is pretty nostalgic to me and I can see their dynamic and I lobe to hear people ramble about that kind of stuff!!
I could go on forever and ever about all the reasons why I love them, but here's something I love about their early dynamic that I think a lot of fic writers (and even Akira Himekawa who did the manga) tend to misunderstand:
In the game, it was an unwelcome but mutually beneficial partnership. They're using each other: kinda toxic but very much equal. He even shows some bite towards her so she knows he won't just take her teasing and ultimatums lying down. In that cutscene where they meet, he isn't shy about showing his initial displeasure of her, so it's in Midna's best interest to properly motivate Link. "I'll take you into the twilight but you need to steal a sword and shield for me first. Oh, there's a dark power I need that's hidden in the forest temple. I bet your kidnapped friends are there too, waiting for you to rescue them, and if they aren't there? At least I'll have what I need, and then I'll take you to the next twilight covered region." It starts out very transactional between them, which is why it's so satisfying when it slowly becomes something more, until Midna's Lament when it's finally unconditional.
It's also why I hate whenever people, whether lovers or haters of this ship, flanderise that early dynamic into abuse, with Link as the victim and Midna as the perpetrator, and then Midna is still seen as worthy of forgiveness. The manga especially is guilty of this, with Midna electrocuting Link the moment he expresses hesitancy to work with her. Not only does it make her seem unlikeable and uncunning, but it was completely unnecessary. She already had all the leverage she needed: she was his only hope of getting out of that cell, finding out what was going on, repelling the twilight, and saving his friends. Anyone who writes Midna as using violence (or the threat of it) to get Link to do what she wants completely ignores the fact that she actually has to negotiate with him. She isn't a nice or polite negotiator, but she is an effective one.
Hope that helps.
@@CoraMaria Don't worry, I could listen to that for hours on end!
Yeah! And that sounds like a very unique and interesting dynamic especially playing around with such a fascinating, dark, but fantastical world that could play out and has a lot of potential to develop into so many fascinating ways! Heck, if I someday will play that game or re-watch a let's play of it (until the end, this time) then maybe I'll see it too! It really seems interesting and has a great dynamic I could totally dig!! So yeah I can totally see the great appeal!!
Yeah that sucks when people missinterpret something as cool as that, espacially if they aren't willing to hear you out because of their own misbelief! Like, this seems super cool and I could see why they would think that but I think they just didn't look that hard into it or with some kind of bius. Even I, as a young kid free to roam on the Internet at the time and happily watching the first episodes of my favourite french let's plaus again and again saw how their dynamic was pretty cool, even if I was really to young to ship anything like I would today! And yeah it sucks when even some of the source material messes things up like that, which doesn't help with people not seeing it as that. And yeah I too don't like when a character or dynamic or even ship I am attached to are deformed like that, it sort of sucks but on the other hand it can motivate us to prove the world wrong with any kind of fanart or in this case a nice little fanfic! In the end, everyone has their own little versions of a certain media depending on what we know of said media, our past experiences in life along with other stuff like our own experience with said media. And that isn' t a bad thing, it gives us more ideas to work with! Let's just all try and ought to not deform it to greatly and call it canon, respect eachother's opinion for the most part and especially never romanticise anything unhealthy! And were good like that. And who knows, maybe this way we'll get to have more cool AUs?
And yeah it does! Made me reflect on things and that's great! I love to talk about things to people like that.
I’m great at writing awesome summaries but translating those strangely detailed summary/outlines into actual chapters is very hard for me. Anyone want to adopt a Sofia the First outline?
So I can help you better, what specifically is hard about it? Also people post ideas and outlines of fics instead of full fics on Tumblr all the time, so that might be the place to go if you want to share that kind of thing.
@@CoraMaria honestly, I’m not entirely sure what’s holding me up. The outlines are helpful for if I picture a specific scene I then know exactly what chapter it goes in. It’s all the scenes that bridge scenes that can be tough. I know I don’t have to describe every action in painstaking detail but some transitions are necessary so that the reader isn’t just dropped into drama or action. Thanks for offering to help.