The Divisive Truth: Uncovering British Bias in F1
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As we dive into one of the controversial F1 topics of recent times and has been here since 90's. As most drivers and fans emerged from Britain F1 fans have mostly been from that part. This signals all media being dedicated towards British F1 drivers like Lewis Hamilton, Lando Norris, and George Russel.
Crazy news about driver lineups and much more they have always been critics of non-british drivers and this creates division between F1 fans which can be seen in recent times in social media.
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Max is not sarcastic, just honest. And Sky F1 also serves other English speaking countries other than the UK. We are so tired of the Mercedes/Hamilton bias and quite had enough of Kravitz and Brundle’s hero worship of them. I was so glad when Verstappen and Red Bull cut Kravitz off, we need more of that. They should now, after 3WDC have some respect for Verstappen. We shall see in 2024.
I am Australian and we get the british telecast. I get so frustrated with the bias. The only good thing is, if there is a great race happening behind the brits, the world feed shows it
Maybe even more telling about the heart of the matter is the fact that in the F1, a sport founded by the French for mostly Italian manufacturers, at the GP of Monza, a Sky presenter got the honour of doing the podium interviews in Italy, and started moaning about 'the queen'. Not a queeen, the queen, who had died at a respectable ages several days ago. That's something in British mentality we also see in other sports, a deep sitting sense of entitlement, an unawareness that there is nothing special about the British and all people have their national preferences and biases and the British have it too. The Dutch, the Germans, the Austrians, Spanish and even the Italians and the French understand it's the same for the others too, the Brits just don't.
On top of that, Hamilton was already crowned future 10fold WDC after a few F1 races, the frustration about the greatness of Schumacher, indeed not the easiest to love rival, was so huge that Hamilton was prepared from a young age to break his records. And then suddenly there was this other German guy Vettel, winning in basically a Minardi, and winning WDC beating Hamilton in a much more modest team, only adding to the frustration. Then Mercedes came to the rescue with the most supreme car in the history of F1 for by far the longest time, and he got beaten by Rosberg while Vettel drove much more impressively with Ferrari later on. Then it got really toxic, and the whole world, from the media to the race director, the technical regulation and the stewards turned against him.
And then Verstappen showed to be the better driver and with the Mercedes not being far superior, the purely statistical narrative of Hamilton being one of the greatest ever, had to be protected against a fair competitive fight. That's how Russell got bad press too. What's going on with Hamilton is very different from other British drivers and it got to another degree of toxic, Max was not only clearly the best driver but the Dutch fans were doing great too, so those had to be slandered as misogynist and racist, suddenly the famously monolingual British media knew the finer details of Portugues racial terms to slander Verstappen's father in law, the Dutch were terribly racist because British F1 driver no 163 happens to be black and the Dutch only had less than a dozen F1 drivers, all white. Silverstone was supposed to have the best atmosphere, with all the booing and cheering for sending a rival to the hospital. Nevermind it was England where Hamilton was bullied for a being a black kid. For me as a Dutchman getting told by the British we are racist, that is really too much.
That's why they reintroduce apartheid blacks can use the nagger and the rest has to shut up and isn't allowed to use the word.
Love the bias - the Torra Rosa is basically a Minardi but the BAR is a supreme Mercedes. lol
Grand Prix was founded by the French????
F1 was post WWII. Thank me later 😶
No the Brits fully understand they just don't like The Dutch, the Germans, the Austrians, the Spanish, the Italians and especially the French
@@ian6451 Mercedes came out of a WCC winning Brawn. The others were just steps along the way.
The British media is one of the most toxic things to have ever happened to F1. It's honestly very unfortunate that they're the most "influential" source of F1 media. One can only hope that outlets like Sky News F1 lose their F1 privileges in the near future. David Croft and Ted Kravitz are probably the worst of them all.
And the Lewis fans are also toxic
It's not only F1 it's everything in the British "press"!
NO YOU MEAN THE REDBULL FANS ARE TOXIC
Because Lulu Fans are. Being toxic you get toxic reactions@@philliptiestopl1511
@@daphneschuring5810
Wrong, very, very wrong, there isn't a single toxic F1 fan, no matter which team, or drive, he/she supports.
The blindly fanatic cult members are the problem.
I never understood all the hype around norris, he seems to be a lovely guy but I think they make him out to be more than he is.
If they only knew he's Belgian... LOL
@@aoife1122 I think Sky couldn't handel that
The hype will die down this season when Oscar wins his first race before lando does
Ted Kravitz is the only explicitly biased one at Sky F1 imo.
As for Verstappen, it blows my mind to see the hypocrisy from Team LH fans. According to them, 2023 was boring, and Max only won because of the car. Completely ignoring the performance of the other RB19 driver, Perez, and failing to mention that from 2014 to 2020 Mercedes had such a dominant car that they consistently scored 1 and 2 in qualifying and many races no matter who Hamilton's teammate was. They also spent $700 million a year on their car, compared to $200 to $300 million for other teams. These days, there's a cost cap, and Verstappen is performing at a spectacular level and destroying his teammate.
F1 endured eight long years of almost total Mercedes dominance, and now they're pissy because Max had one really good season? I'm an F1 fan, and this year showcased one of the most spectacular talents I've ever seen in the sport. It was magnificent stuff. I want to see other teams challenge Red Bull more, too, but it's not Verstappen's fault that no one can catch him right now. What's wrong with someone other than Hamilton having their moment to shine?
I have nothing against Hamilton. He's a superb driver, and I was particularly impressed by how gracious he was after the race in Abu Dhabi in 2021. But his fans are absolutely insane. They're either whining about Max, ranting about Abu Dhabi '21, or making death threats against George Russell.
As an aside, I think Lando Norris is an absolutely superb driver. He was closer to Max than anyone else last year. I think he'll get better and better.
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They should get rid of Ted. He doesn't provide much entertainment, just cuts up other drivers that are not British or drive British cars.
sure nothing to do with the fact we were told "the new regs means closer racing" and what we have got is red bull wining till the next new regs cause of the cost cap ......was boring when merc won and more so now with RB cause they No2. is ditched in the car development least with ham we had rosberg pushing him or Vettel.
@@atthesink huh, your reply makes no sense?
Look at how when people talk about quali in Hungary in 2007 and the British media have got everyone talking about alonso in the pit lane but they never mentioned how Lewis disobeyed team orders to key alonso through in quali
I am from the UK and support Max 100%
Truth always wins
Yeah you Dutch right ore hater of Lewis Hamilton correct me if I m rongh
You also attend riots and loot shoezone.
Verstappen is not talented he cheating and getting support from all the racist in FIA
Hammertime was't Lewis but just a button to turn up the engine.
So true! Don't get me started about engine party modes back in the Mercedes days. Every Q3, both Merc drivers would suddenly jump 3 tenths ahead of everyone else. Like clockwork. That's why it took Verstappen *4 years* to get his first pole.
OK, in Mclaren with Alonso equal machinery.. ok your right.
@@AirflowToTheTurbo
Lol you obviously believe that old crap then?.
There was no party mode don't you remember when Vettel said to Hamilton post Quali.
"It's easy With your party mode"
and Hamilton said "We don't have Party mode"
to which Vettel replies "well what were you doing before then?"
And Hamilton responds with the epic " Waiting to put in a good lap, to wipe the smile off your face"
Every team has a quali mode Mercedes just did it better. Same as Red bull are doing now. 2 Scenarios Exist with Red Bull they are either cheating and haven't yet been discovered how or they just made a really good race car!
@@AirflowToTheTurbo but not his first win. Verstappen did that in 1.5 years of racing, but in his first race for Red Bull.
Yep it was frustrating to watch the engine being turned up on the Mercedes, but one didn’t see that effect with Mercedes engine users. Does anyone remember if Mercedes sold the same spec engine to other teams, or was it different - like last year’s spec engine? I seem to remember something like this causing McLaren to move from Mercedes in 2015 to Honda engines????
Absolutely true!!! I 100% Agree!! British Fair play is greatly overrated nowadays!!! Specially in Sky Sports!
Sky Sports isnrt even British. Its Murdoch Australian , just like your Fox channel 🙄🤦♂
The media is one thing....most of them are there in a job, without any experience of the actual game itself, and maybe don't even love the sport all that much for all I know.....I see m as a bunch of dick-heads mostly (my character flaw).
What's more despicable in my opinion is how (in recent times) Lulu is portraying himself and the continues crying over and over again.......he could be a big guy in the sport with 7 titels....but he clearly isn't.
Same with the "fans"....yes we all prefer someone to win and we can get passionate about it...but the reactions are so over the top and hateful sometimes, I can't see those people as people who love the sport....
The media taps into this tribalism and feeds it in order to make themselves more money.... disgusting but most big corporations are....(I prefer it not to be the case...but I fear that needs a new animal all together)
Sky sports is toxic, it is really annoying and comes in very bad taste. The English drivers are always being protected, and the other drivers are being run down. Look at Hamilton/ Mercedes they always have an excuse for him, it’s always the other guy. We are sick of Sky Sports, please get someone else !!!!!!!!
Di Resta sacked from Sky British
Johnny Herbert sacked from Sky British
Both F1 drivers one a Le Mans driver and long time career driver
who both understand the sport.
What do we get, Danica, 'no trophy' no F1 experience, Patrick.
Vettel's pass on Bottas at Spain 2017 is a glaring example. Had Lewis done that, the move would be called the greatest pass in F1 history like the dummy pass at Silverstone 1987
Thank you so much for airing this video, it has been a long time coming! Bias towards British drivers and British teams, especially, Mercedes (which is odd since they are a German company!). However, when I was in Germany a few years ago, I watched an F1 race on the German RDL channel and the commentators were very biased to German drivers (Vettel and Rosberg), so I'm sure it's the same in every country that has a driver in F1. That doesn't make it right though. I often think how nice a world this would be without borders and countries that feel the need to be superior to each other. We are all one race, the human race, and we all came from the same source. Competitive sports can be fun to watch, but it breeds so much animosity amongst countries and their citizens, that seem to want to live their lives vicariously through there sports personas. Having said that, I still enjoy F1 and root for the driver I feel is talented, and fun to watch. That's what they are there for. They are just pawns for F1, the FIA, huge sponsors, and the fans. Therefore, each one of these parties feel it's OK to exploit them as if they were cattle. But, they are people, people with feelings like all of us, and should be treated equally by all concerned with the sport, especially F1 commentators and interviewers, as they greatly affect how we see these drivers personalities. Just my opinion - you're welcome to voice yours.
I don't think we are disputing that in various countries the media will support their drivers. However, with SkySports they are always supporting british drivers. For example at the Austrian Grand Prix - they made such a huff and puff about MV, and not admitting that LN was wrong and had been served a penalty after he retired. They spoke as friends, however the media kept pushing the agenda along with Zak Brown, Stella and Crofty... They see their drivers as doing no wrong. It will be a miracle. They can't congratulate RBR and MV for winning Barcelona, still claiming it is the car and not the driver, the Austrian sprint the fact MV took back P1 without DRS and giving him props they just stated that it was LN's fault.... it's problematic and yet we as fan bases can be toxic as well. As MV said he doesn't give a sh*t about the media, his life goes on, all he cares about is his friendships.
I get a kick out of all the ‘Verstappen’s going to leave Red Bull to join Mercedes, leaving a vacancy. I wonder who will fill it? Oooh Lewis Hamilton!’ Chatter
Like omg. You guys need to chill. It ain’t a birthright that a British driver wins the championship every year.
This video needs way more views, I agree with everything said here !! I have F1 TV and to see the difference in broadcast reaction about the same issue was a eye opener for me, team radio messages is a Prime example of this. The only two Sky sport Commentators I will listen to is Button & Brundle as there the only ones that knows what it means to be there. Hill is a ex driver but he has a ever loving hate for anyone that's not Hamilton. They might as well call Sky sport Broadcast "Brits in F1" that would be way more fitting.
Remember when they tried to coin George Russell’s nickname as ‘Mr. Saturday’
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Thank you!!! 👌🏼 Great video
Sky is just like UK sport.they always want to be the greatest.even if they got nothing to proof it.HL should take max on on the track.he should stop playing for th cameras.he take piwuet to court but then turn up in Brazil colours at Brazil f1
Great synopsis, spot on
SKY makes people with eyes and ears racist towards shamilton, ive never ever liked him and the guys been found out hes just a average driver lol Schumacher could win in a bad car and hes the GOAT lulu is am embarrassment, SKY will hopefully realise soon that their shitty staff are pure cringe and need a refresh!
I'm British and have no love for either Hamilton or Russell.
In the last few years certainly (longer for Hamilton in my opinion), both have shown to be incapable of taking ownership of their own mistakes, and are far to quick to pass blame onto others. Whether this be other drivers on the course, one another or their own engineers, everything they do is without approach and it's everyone else who screws them over.
Hamilton spent the longest stretch of time at the top, not because he was the greatest driver but because he was in part, a member of the most dominant team. This is not to try and diminish his talent, but given the same machinery, I don't believe he would have even half of the World Championships he gained.
Until Sky Sports understand that Hamilton and Russell have been just as, if not more dangerous than they claimed Verstappen to be, then this claim of bias will sadly remain (and rightfully so).
You are correct but as presented it's marketing - you cater to the largest audience. Is it not curious that MB brought in Lewis as opposed to Fernando. Is this similar or is it because of Fernando's behaviour.
I fully agree with you and i had time to dive into history. The British admiereing of German organisation dates back to the early 1600ds. At this point in time the British navy was beaten left right and center by the Dutch. England hadn't a standing army to speak of. English traders came across a little state called Pruissia it was the offspring of a cruisaidor outpost in nowadays north east Poland. The whole society was militarised. The writings of that experence are stunning. There lies the spark of the admiering of Pruissian and later German organisation and later engineering.
Leading up to the Great War the young German state build up their navy to match the British. The plans were made, a course was set and the funds neccecery were freed by gouverment decission for the whole project. In England the situation was very different. There the Admirality had to beg for funds every single year to keep their extensive fleet maintained let alone extended. The German fleet was eventualy scuttled at Scapa Flow by German act after the surender.
In the Interbellum GP racing started and after '33 the German brands of Mercedes and Auto-Union (current Audi) got state funding for their racing and engine developmental work. In the 6 years from '33 up and until '39 the German brands won almost everyting. After the war Auto-Union found itself behind the iron curtain and before the border was closed off completely the Audi division of Auto-Union escaped to West-Germany. In a few years racing resumed, Mercedes entered F1 in '53 and Porsche entered Le Mans in the same year to 'connect again frienly'. Both won, not instantly but still.
In my opinion there is the allmost divine admaration for German engineering by the British is coming from.
Hamilton is defenetly talented otherwise he was never picked up by Ron Dennis who payed for his whole karting and junior single seaters carreer. At the point Lewis was debuing for McLaren the last Champion from the British Isles was Nigel Mansell about 20 years ago. In his debute season he almost got it and even Alonso was done dirty by Dennis to give his protege the best chance. The whole of Britania was on the Hamilton Hype train and no means to stop it. After Hamilton won the 2008 season a little lucky he was regarded the best thing ever hapened since the invention of Beer.
In 2013 he joined Mercedes and hopes were up again. How could the best driver off all time in an overly engineered German build Mercedes and Mercedes power being stopped? 2013 wasn't great so panic struck and then 2014 arived and the rest is history.
Yet one makes rookie mistakes,(admitted through his own lips through tears) the other develops the car 'in season' in 2022 looking at the long game.
He will have his 8th WDC.
@@alimantado373
The other is just claiming so..... The opinions between the the two drivers differ about this topic. One claims all the glory and the other states the burden waa devided amongst the two of them.
@@henkormel5610 Huh, you don’t make any sense, and you can’t spell correctly. Where was the steam engine and the jet engine invented? Just 2 I could think of off hand.
I have absolutely no use for Ted Kravitz. His bias is over the top. If sky cant broadcast a non biased feed, maybe it should be restricted to the British islands and let the rest of the world decide for ourselves
The solution is simple actually:
1. F1's own media team should be an international journalists team. Plenty of excellent and available pundits from all over the globe out there that speak near-fluent English.
2. This team should take charge then of the international feed and Sky Sports should be kicked out it.
3. Under this condition it is perfectly fine for local F1 media, like Sky Sports UK, to cheer for their own heroes.
The Race are less biased in my opinion.
I listen to Motorsport Italia material, mainly because of Giorgio Piola. They seem less Ferrari biased and provide mostly professional objective reporting. They did the same back when Ferrari was briefly fighting for championships (17,18,22).
Im brittish and have been saying this for years, id gladly watch a different channel for f1 if i was able to do so. Get ted and crofty out!
Ofc its not the car when lewis wins, all skill, like they keep stating. Just find it hillarious that now sky F1 talks about merc being bad and car improvements non stop every race weekend for the past 2 years. Who knew a car that could pull a 2s gap in 1 lap after a sc could win championships...
Sky is absolutely ridiculous. Jolyon Palmer and Sam Collins are sadly bringing F1 TV into the same vein. What made Murry Walker so great is that we knew he had preferences for British drivers- he often admitted as such on live TV. But he would get so excited no matter who did something exciting. His passion was on the driving action, not the nationality of the one involved in the action.
In past times different drivers not in the best car, so in 'inferior' cars, have had multiple wins over the dominant car in a season but that doesn't mean Lewis is bad driver now.
Regarding recent times it just means, I think, RB and Max are an outstanding team.
And concerning the bias I think it's normal for people rooting for their fellow country men but this shouldn't be the case in reporting or journalism: should be inpartial how difficult that may be.
The same applies to Sky Germany and Sky Italy: more bias towards Mercedes, German drivers or Ferrari.
It is what it is.
tyvm for pointing this out
Naomi Schiff shouldn't be anywhere near F1, let alone part of a commentary team. A waste of space
That must be the biggest joke of the 2024 season when GR was rated better than Carlos Siantz & Checo Perez.
Max won plenty of races during the Mercedes domination. Won his first race at 17 years old. If Lewis is so great, why can't Lewis win during the Red Bull era? I would think the greatest of all time, would be able to win without having the fastest car on track. Toto is on the radio, apologising for a shit car to Lewis. But, George finished 4th in that same race, in the same car! Excuses and crying don't win races. Toto chose the zero pod crap. But, on the radio, Toto is heard with Lewis insulting the engineers who followed Toto's lead. Croft is a putz. He thinks it ok to insult someone, as long as you laugh a bit. It you laugh you are only joking. Lewis will never win another championship, unless Max quits. Lewis doesn't work as hard. Sim time matters Lewis.
Max is very good. The reason why Lewis hasn't won during the last 2 seasons is his car isn't fast enough at most tracks and Redbull have built an great car, which most teams cannot come close to on race pace. The car is very reliable and there is a definite hierarchy in the Redbull team. Perez is a good driver, but he isn't in Verstappen's league, and this is not helped by the way that the car is configured, which does not work to his strengths.
Mercedes were dominant, during the first 3 seasons after the change to hybrid engine cars (2014-2016). Verstappen won his first race in 2016, at the age of 18, this was due to Hamilton and Rosberg colliding on the first lap, and then some very good driving by Verstappen.
Reliability of most of the cars in F1 has dramatically improved. Yes, you do get the odd breakdown but for the top teams, these are rare events. Mercedes, are also looking for drivers, who can be at a close level to each other. You may point out that Valtteri Bottas wasn't, but if you look early in his career, Bottas was considered a very good driver, and on his day he could challenge and beat Hamilton, but he just wasn't good enough.
With George Russell is also considered a very good driver and he can challenge, and beat Hamilton at times. The issue with Russell is his reliability and the fact that currently, he is making too many mistake. Something which is not unusual in F1 drivers during a certain point in their career and I would say Hamilton and Verstappen, were both guilty of this as well.
Then we have the Mercedes car, which is very race specific in terms of capabilities, with the car not being competitive for the win at 95% of tracks during this season, and at those tracks the Red Bull was still just as good.
Then we get to the is Hamilton the best driver of his of all time? Personally, I would say it is very hard to judge who is the greatest of all time. Plenty will say it is Ayrton Senna, or Michael Schumacher. Personally, I think that Jim Clark is for me one of the greatest drivers of all time, but I wouldn't say that he was the best, and I wouldn't say that any other driver was the best, because you cannot easily compare drivers of different time periods.
What is certainly true is that really good drivers generally end up at the top teams, and earning huge amounts of money. Hamilton came into a top team, with McLaren in 2007 and he was very good during that first season coming close to winning the F1 championship, and equaling Fernando Alonso on points in the championship, and Alonso is an excellent driver. After, his 2008 Championship win, the McLaren wasn't the fastest car after, and he did make a lot of mistakes and was over aggressive after that, which is why he lost to Button in the 2011 season. But Hamilton did learn, from that and beat Button in 2012, before going to Mercedes in 2013 and with 2014 in a very dominant car, his only competition was his team mate.
We can see very similar things with Verstappen. He was seen like Hamilton as being a great talent and he was signed up with a very good team in Red Bull. He was very good, to begin with but during his first two seasons he was beaten by Daniel Ricciardo but from 2018 he was certainly the number 1 in Redbull, even though it was still arguable that he was a still over aggressive as a driver.
There are various arguments as to whom the best driver in 2023 and I would say that Verstappen probably is, though it is easier when you have a dominant car and not a huge amount of competition (and I would say the Mercedes 2019/20 cars show this).
My last point is this. The vast majority of performance comes from the car, with the driver topping it off. A great driver can make a bad car look much better than it actually is in certain conditions, but he is never going to beat a great driver in a great car, unless something goes wrong with that car. I would also say that it is rare that a great driver in a good car is going to beat a great driver in a great car, unless it is down to something track specific or something goes wrong with other car.
So I hope that explains some of the things that you seemed confused with. I have tried to be as unbiased as possible.
And remember the FIA did change the rules on Toto's request because they build a shitty car having the same rule book.. So all others had an illigal car the had to change. RB did disign the car for an psific ride hight wich they had to change.
Probably Checo must try taking out Max and himself than we can see Lewis win
@@MichaelLaing71 I'm not confused at all. Lewis can't win on his own efforts. He doesn't have the focus that Max has. He refuses to use the sim. Max is on his sim, inside his jet when he is flying home from a race. Max won races with a crap car compared to Mercedes back then. Excuses don't win races either.
@@theLonelyBandit6984Where was Lewis in Singapore? Max was not a factor at all. So, the "goat" could have shown he was the man. But, he can't, because he's not! When Lewis was racing up front, he deliberately put Max in the wall. That was his only chance at beating him.
Sky sports biggest problem is that they are incredibly boring I think most people will agree that they now flick through most of the BS and just get to the race. The pre-race analogy used to be interesting to watch now it's a load of personal interest stories from people who have never driven a formula 1 car and they're trying to make stories out of anything gossip mainly it's a shocking display from a previously great presentation
I checked out the Sky F1 channel during the sports summer break. I couldn't believe that they showed the 2024 British Grand Prix repeated all day long. It was only interrupted by Ted Kravitzs summary of the British Grand Prix. All day long!!! Had Verstappen won the race, I can guarantee, the 2024 race would never have seen the light of day ever again.
Any F1 fan can see that, since GR joined the Mercedes team, he has been holding LH & the Mercedes team back.
Totally true! Fantastic video! Fight back!!!
Sorry Lewis, another 2 years of humiliation by Max.
I'm not a Brit, but have lived a lot abroad and outside of Europe, Sky is often the only broadcaster available. And if there's another available it is biased as well if they have their own driver in. But not in the way I've seen Sky do it. In the Vettel RB days, I liked the new rebel team, I liked Vettel. But watching Sky, they made me feel bad for supporting him. I was supporting the bad guy and no matter what Vettel did, they always found an excuse or something to complain about, if it was only his finger at the podium ceremony. The only Vettel win ever that was cheered for on Sky was probably his first in a Torro Rosso. And that's the difference, in other biased media they cheer for their man, at Sky they talk bad about all others. Using F1 tv now, it's still heavily British biased, but not toxic, and that's normal, like Fernando said, the crews, presenters ect are mostly Brits and a bit of national pride there's nothing wrong with it.
british media did the same to Seb at red bull....
I'm a Lewis fan but i'll admit, the British bias is excessive
Most of the British Ex-drivers that are now pundits (except for Damon Hill) at SKY, do a pretty good job of giving credit to where credit is due, when it comes to the drivers. It's the bought and paid for commentators (Ted, Crofty, Lazenby), that are the worst, and probably need to be to keep their jobs.
The less people are educated the more they think they are right.
And if I look at there so called ( Eton)educated politicians I understand
why less educated people think the way they do!
4:45, has this fact been proven Max and Lewis can get the most of their cars, i think Alonso would be in there somewhere - is this the type of bias you are referring to?
Max does not have the teammate to race wheel to wheel, niether is the rest of the field able to keep up at 2 second plus deficit.
He has yet to be proved fairly in wheel to wheel racing IMO🙏🙏
@@alimantado373 you must be British
@@ongewerveldedieren
Why because he's talking sense?
Sky sports love Verstappen they are always singing his praises. Yes they are British, broadcasting primarily in english to a British audience. Of course they are going to mention Russel Hamilton and Norris and even if they finished 18th 19th and 20th they would still have driven well ! And that's because Brundle and Co aren't going to call them a Bunchof Cnuts are they?
As for Verstappen remind me of how many titles Max won before 2022
(2021 don't count because Masi gifted him that one ) Without the Car Max is just another pretty good driver ( actually without a car he's technically a pedestrian) Perez is Crap (it's why he got sacked at McLaren) Bottas was quick but inconsistent Hamilton was well, better than Alonso as rookie when Alonso s
was current 2x wdc ( Ouch that still has to smart doesn't it?). Hamilton also beat Rosberg who was good enough to make the Great MSC look average in the Merc. So Hamilton has Proved he can Race. Max has Managed at RBR to be as good as Ricciardo, and better than Gasley Perez and Albon
that's not in the way of evidence of him being able to beat all comers in the same car. llke Alonso and Hamilton have right through their careers.
@@Lamster66 yup definitely British, and just confirming everything. Thanks dude!
@@alimantado373 nice try lewis
I think they should have two separate races
One for the British and one for the rest of the world
I think that bias is inexcusable, especially when it is so bad that it is unwatchable/unlistenable tr you are British. I was a Schumacher fan while accepting he was a bad boy sometimes. Most of the time, I just find Max extremely funny and, of course, talented.
Mostly, the problem is with the fans rather than the drivers, I sometimes thing the fans are not true fans of the sport.
I hate the fact that the commentators and pundits all pile on to struggling drivers without considering the pressure this applies to the drivers.
And Christian Horner is always sh*t-stirring
nothing wrong with supporting drivers from your home country, all fans will be bias like how dutch fans will be bias and most likely support verstappen while spanish will probs support sainz and alonso etc, but i dont agree with the way fans argue like little children in a playground about why hamilton or max is better and ofc having bias in any media is defo an issue that needs to be fixed
That Hamilton even outside of uk is well known when you mention F1 as if hes the only driver that excisted
Correctly been said...
It's not just F1 - it's any sport. If England lose in football, the blame game starts as to who's fault it is. Never do you hear "England played well but unfortunately, the opposition were just better..." It's always the ref's fault, or it's the manager's fault or a player who let everyone down. If you try and watch the Olympics on the BBC, all you see it British people. They'll have everyone in the studio talking about British competitors and then over to the Javelin to see the Brit have a go and.... back to the studio. Then over to the high jump for one jump by a Brit and then off somewhere else...
True
I think that the sky sports should lose their contract there professionalism to have the contract anymore
When they're not British you hear Skysport talking bias about the other nationality 😂😂😂😂 I love to hear Crofty but they are not 100% partially enough towards the other driver. A bit Chauvinistic I think😅😅😅😅😅😅
Personally I hate it when people have double standards.
If people think that Hamilton won his titles because of his skills and not his cars dominance, then they can't suddenly be screaming that Verstappen is winning just because his car is fastest!
It's always a mixture of car, driver, team and sheer luck!
Hamilton had many years of having the best car and great luck on his side...........now it's Verstappens turn.........as for the Abu Dhabi GP in 2021, if the tables had been turned Hamilton would have done exactly the same thing if he had been behind and on the fresher tyres. I have heard people say he wouldn't because he's a sportsman, of course he would because he's a racer! To many people seem to think as Hamilton as some kind of saint who can't make mistakes.......well he's human and he does.
I'm British and personally have never liked his attitude, but that's a personal thing.
As a Dutchman, there are plenty of people here who think Hamilton only won WDCs because he had a fast car and not because of skill. He might not have been as dominant as Max has been last year, but he's certainly op there with the greats. We have toxic fans on both sides unfortunately.
Its been like this since 2007 on ITV when everything became focused on Hamilton on carried on through BBC and Sky! It annoys me but it won't go away.
The English bias commentary is so odd to me because In the nba we celebrate and boost euro players in f1 Lewis and max are the most popular not checco or Logan in football we watch epl and champions league not mls or mx. We just want to see the best compete no matter where they are
And the irony? There ain't no British F1 team left... Aston Martin is owned by a Canadian billionaire, it's only a matter of time until Williams becomes "Dorilton Racing" and McLaren is owned by the sovereign wealth fund for the Kingdom of Bahrain. Just let them bias, say I. 🤣🤣🤣
As a ferrari fan, I don't care for red bull or verstappen, but the english broadcast doesnt even try to hide their bias.
I'm glad my country has their own announcers, even if they aren't the best, it beats listening to sky.
100% The way they pile on Perez , even though he was 2nd. Red Bulls only ever one 2 in the championship ...
Tell me about it. When they said - "We know that he has problems in qualifying, he has fluctuations in form. He is South American and he is just not as completely focused in his head as Max is or as Sebastian" Outrageous pile on by the British media - what an absolutely appaling thing to say. As it is such a pile on by the media then nobody else would be critiquing Checo, as after all, he came 2nd I bet we can't find any examples of other people critcising Checo, just the British media with their pile on...
@@ian6451 Not 'they'. Only Helmut Marko said that.
You are wrong in one respect .... it is wholly Sky sports fault, they are like it with all sports they live on having an inherent bias. Saying it is the British audience is wrong as a majority of the British audience don't like Sky sports F1 coverage for the very reason it is sickly.
If Kravitz, not his real name, wasn’t Jewish, he wouldn’t get away with half he says.
But nobody can criticise him without being anti semetic.
Kravitz is as bad as Murray Walker was, talks crap but everyone thinks he is great.
I enjoy the F1 races the pit lane reporter can’t be bothered to attend.
Perez isn’t good enough to have a Red Bull car, he either has a good day or an appalling one,
Norris apparently is far better than Ricciardo, so how come Danny won a race in McLaren and Norris chasing Martin Brundle F1 record of never winning has yet to win after 106 races?
Max won at 17 yers old!
Hamilton won’t win any more titles and when he retires he won’t be missed. Has he tried any other series? Indycar like Mansell did as reigning F1 champ and then won that series too?
Has he run in sports cars? No!
He states he runs the day glow numbers because Rossi has retired. Erm….. thicko Lulu, Valentino has not retired he is now winning in spirts car racing with his own team and a team in Moto GP!
True.....since ww2 👎👎👎
Now look at their popularity in the world now...more declining society immerge
Unquestionably, the FIA's rules and regulations are resolute and unwavering. That being said, it's clear that the FIA handed Verstappen his first F1 championship on a golden platter, when the FIA, under instructions from the Liberty Media group, made two unprecedented moves at the end of the 2021 finale at Abu Dhabi.
To reset the stage: Lewis Hamilton was in the lead, with five cars between himself and Verstappen. The FIA's first controversial move came after Latifi hit the barrier, prompting the FIA to order the Safety car on track, rather than the typical "Virtual" Safety car... thus allowing Verstappen to enter the pits to take on new tires.
The FIA's next controversial move was to allow the five lapped cars that were between Hamilton and Verstappen to move back past Hamilton and take position at the back of the pack, which absolutely gave Verstappen the upper hand during the restart, having just received new tires for the final lap.
The FIA's decisions were both controversial and unprecedented, and both were made with the intention of delivering the 2021 championship to Red Bull and Verstappen!
The notable exception being Martin Brundle, who I think is by far the most balanced and objective commentator/pundit.
Nope, not even Brundle meets balanced and objective. It is Max’s 3rd WDC in a row, and only now are we beginning to get some praise for him from Brundle and Kravitz and the Sky F1 crew. It’s quite pathetic at times watching them squirm trying to say something good about Verstappen that they really want to use for Hamilton.
Talking out your behind, all media are biased, based on a narrative, Max is fawned mostly by all the Sky team under Liberties directions, half of them used to work for RB. Alonso also gets great praise, even when you consider Crashgate, bunging money to engineers etc, what does that tell you? The media are extremely fickle and simple hero worship the champion whoever that is.
I'm sure the Italian, Spanish, Dutch etc broadcasters are just as biased but their coverage isnt streamed around the world.
If you're not happy with with UK sky's coverage then learn a different language and watch that.
You're right.. As bigots you should show your prejudice to all , they SHOULD go somewhere else. You should be an American... They thrive on your kind of hate.
LOLOL For You Information, SKY Is An AUSTRALIAN COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOL
Cope
MAX GOOD GUY 🤤🤥🤤🤤🤤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂