Here comes dat flame boi. Music: Message for the Archvile by Bobby Prince Become the Hunted by James Paddock Always Watching by Lippeth Patreon: / decino
You also need the Archie to give you a boost to unlock the secret exit in TEETH. Good thing for the invulnerability sphere they give you in that section, since he's less of a gentleman.
Bobby Prince said: ”For his death sound, I recorded a young girl saying 'why,' pitch shifted it down and mixed it with other sounds. The Archvile just doesn't understand why anyone would want to kill him as he sees himself as only doing good for his fellow demon."
If all he did was resurrect demons like some sort of medic, I would understand this interpretation but he had to go all flame boi on us. That's why! I scream as I stomp his bloody corpse.
@@Vistico93 He thinks he's helping people get to his picnic via his firey attack & resurrection. He believes he's doing good & wrapping people in his warm love. Think Pyro from the TF2 character video series :-)
Really? And all this time I thought it did sound like a really garbled "why," and also assumed that in all seriousness I had to be wrong about that interpretation but whatever, it's my own little joke. And now it turns out... I was wrong about being wrong. Also, wow, the creators were really all over the place on that one. On one hand whoever named it and wrote the manual treated the arch-vile as extra evil, and on the other a sound designer saw it as the most relatively benevolent of all them all. That interpretation makes me wonder if there was a point in development where they only resurrected other demons and that's what he went with, since being perfectly happy to murder Doomguy on sight and any demon that so much as sneezes at them makes that view of the arch-vile's self-image a lot harder to justify. In light of not just resurrecting, but also attacking and being the most vengeful of all, it either makes no sense at all, or they have a truly warped interpretation of their own actions that sees both resurrection AND murder as equal acts of pure benevolence. ...Which would actually be kinda cool for how the evilest and most magically adept demon thinks, now that I think about it.
In DOOM Eternal there is explained that the Arch-Vile is feared because of it's ability to manipulate lower beings (such as other lesser-ranked Demons) to it's will. That way there are two extra explanations: 1. The Demon fears to attack the Arch-Vile back because that may anger it more. 2. Arch-Vile has manipulated the Demon to not fight back.
@@garrettk7166 Feels scary at first but next you feel some warm water around you you can easily put the flames out with. Wait, where did it come from, again? Fuuuuuuu!.....
And just like that, The Arch Vile became loved for its challenge instead of hated for its annoyance (I'm looking at you Pain Elemental! Ah, who am I kidding? I still love those goofy-lookin dudes)
Each version of the Arch-Vile brings something unique. The Doom 2 version had extreme hitscan damage output, the Doom 2016 version (Summoner) had high agility, the Doom Eternal version was a tank with a wide range of abilities, and the Doom 3 version had boxing gloves for hands.
@@dustyrust36 Yeah it’s a misconception cuz something said it was the Archvile of Doom 2016 but that doesn’t mean it is one, it just meant it acted similarly to one which it does which also confuses people so they think it’s apart of the same “Demon race”.
While I love (and to hate) the Arch-Vile in DOOM Eternal, I didn't really like how the demon often remained stationary during attacks. Sure, it'd annoyingly teleport itself somewhere at random in-between attacks but in a future game I'd love if they made it even more like the OG version; *very fast* on foot, and being able to resurrect dead demons in the map. If the Summoner from DOOM (2016) returns, leave the *summoning* and buffing to it, and have the Arch-Vile constantly reviving ones you destroy (and likely wrecking you lol) until you take his sorry behind out.
Sandy Petersen had some hand in the Arch-Vile's development, together with Adrian Carmack and Bobby Prince, conceptualizing it as an evil healer with a childlike mentality, not understanding why anyone would hurt it, hence the death scream is a highly distorted *"Why?!"* The Arch-Vile fits his idea of a Lovecraftian kind of monster, and in fact was suitable for when he recreated one of his personal recurring nightmares as a part of Map 27 : Monster Condo Quoting him here: *One of my recurring, and quite specific nightmares, also one of the most terrifying, is for me to be in an old house (often my grandfather’s or father’s), or an old library, and to discover that there is a small secret room there. This secret room is always small, and triangular, tucked into a corner of the building. It has a clouded window shedding a nasty yellow light over the interior. There are occult-looking papers and parchments scattered over an old desk, and on the floor, and old books laying everywhere. An overpowering musty smell is all around.* *As I look around this strange area, I become aware of movement in the corner. I turn, and a withered, hideous undead Thing rises up - the inhabitant of the secret room. Always mummified and awful, it reaches out a blackened claw towards me. I so far have always awakened before it touched me.* *This nightmare is so specific (it starts out general, can be in any building, and then becomes more and more specific towards the end), that my fear is sometime it might come true. Logically I know this is impossible. But nightmares aren’t about logic.*
I knew it was an Archvile all along due to its skeletal face. Instead I thought the Icon of Sin one (with the pentagram) was supposed to depict a Cyberdemon, as if the wall is depicting the top species of Hell (Hell Knights/Barons of Hell, Arch-Viles, and Cyberdemons).
Arch-Viles are perfectly fine enemies, in my opinion. They're incredibly powerful and super annoying to fight, but they're also important and have to be taken out first. It adds another level of strategy. Not their fault many map makers stuff them in their levels to increase the difficulty artificially.
Not all maps with Archviles have them simply to doom the player via enemy spam. I can’t remember the name of the mod, but a great example of smart Archvile use is the level’s second phase. The level’s full of Pinkys, but none of them can do damage. You’re given a rocket launcher, and the trick is to keep the Pinkys far away enough to keep the rockets from killing you. After enough die and you’re able to move about the level relatively freely, Archviles are released along the walls, reviving the harmless Pinkys and killing you in the process.
6:02 _oorrrr_ Use an arch-vile to resurrect shotgunners and chain gunners repeatedly to create infinite ammo. I usually get the attention of these guys and get them to follow me to a key door. Kill them all, then get an arch-vile to follow you. Hop through the key door, get the Archie to resurrect all the hit scanners, do the “peek-a-boo” with the key door and listen to the carnage! You can enjoy some coffee or tea while spamming the “open-close” of the key door until the hit scanners have killed the arch-vile. Mop up the survivors and now you have a huge pile of chain guns and shotguns. Hmm... imagine a DOOM map with no ammo, and you _have_ to do this in order to survive...
You're referring to the northern most room in _TNT: Evilution_ MAP17: Processing Area. It usually works, but I've encountered circumstances in which a monster manages to open the door before it's fully shut. My details are a bit fuzzy, as it's been a while since I played _Doom._
@@patcatzgames9792 i suspect he has the same viewpoint as Pyro. Warming people up with his love flame, and inviting (resurrecting) people to join his picnic crew :-)
One of the three most mechanically interesting demons in game just after the Icon of Sin. The Pain Elemental is annoying to fight but the way it functions makes it one of the cooler monsters in Doom.
I hope its similar. I got chills on the first trailer that revealed the Archvile. However, the first gameplay demo that culminates in the Archvile made it look like it would be a boss, which would be disappointing. I haven't watched any pre-release stuff past that though.
@@decino Coincident is a good youtuber Mr. Decino, he makes content like yours and posts stream highlights on his channel. Also like you he has a very nice accent.
Arch-vile is awesome. He the only enemy every doom player is STILL terrified of. Gotta give him credit for that. He does suffer from being used very poorly in many many many many slaughtermaps. But in well-designed maps Archies work wonderfully well.
DOOM 5's Marauder only manage to intimidate first timers and the mortally challenged. The tell-tale laugh of an Arch-Vile still strikes terror in all who know them.
@@expendableround6186 tbf marauders in a chaotic environment are still painful since they’re good at giving you tunnel vision, so they are good for making relatively tame encounters significantly harder rather than being scary on their own. That’s honestly not so different from Doom 2 Archviles come to think of it.
Normal folks do stuff like eat broken glass, climb buildings with no safety rope, jump into waterfalls, get deliberately stung by giant wasps... but noooo, that's way too soft for Decino. He wants to deal with freakin' Arch Viles :D
One time i used an archie to get through the final level of a wad, since if the boss dies the level will end even if you're dead, and the boss will never retaliate. It felt good
In combination with their startling sound file and speed, they always know where you are once aggroe'd, and will be next to the closest wall to you if they can't physically reach you. And you did mention how other demons wont attack them back, don't forget that means the Archvile will beat both Spider Mastermind and the Cyber Demon 1v1. The Archvile is the ultimate doom demon! Nice video :)
And imagine if the resurrected Arch-Vile were to be a ghost monster after being crushed. That would be a serious pain due to ammo going through them and luring them to the wall is more of a chore.
I remember reading up about what exactly a ghost monster was. Then one day, I was playing the No rest for the Living maps, and had one happen. One kf the more thrilling moments. An imp corpse got crushed by a door, left 'crushed guts' pile. Got resurrected by an archvile. Boom, ghost monster. I think a better way it was stated is the crushed remains have a height set at 1 or 2 units high. And it resets to be flagged as non solid. So the monster is resurrected as being 1 unit tall, but with regular monster sprite. Only way to kill it is with splash damage, or crushing ceiling. Great video again. Makes me want to play DooM over and over again
These videos are truly amazing. Thank you so much. Doom is forever one of my favourite gaming experiences and I've dabbled into all sorts of WADs and map creation but to see how it actually works is.. Truly wonderful. Thank you.
I actually never knew that that wall face was an Archvile's, let alone that he had anything resembling a face. Always saw it as parts of his face glued together with the side of his teeth barely visible.
I so do not regret subscribing to your channel. I've been playing DooM for over twenty years now and I still learn something with every video you put out. I thought I knew it all and every time I learn something new, it's pleasantly mind blowing and simultaneously humbling. Keep 'em coming, man! You continue to expand our knowledge and knowledge is the best weapon you can lend to your fellow marines! :P
With the Archvile being one of my favorite enemies in Doom. When I saw this in my notifications, I smiled to my ears. Thanks decino! Edit: “At least these suckers are rare.” *Laughs in Plutonia*
nah, that doesn't summarize the video at all, he explained so much more than just "they are bad", he explained really cool ways to dodge their attacks and how their attacks are calculated and so on. but I get that you were just trying to be funny
Ah, my favourite enemy! About the revive-radius, it never factors the y-position for distance? I have yet to see how they implement it in Doom Eternal, will be interesting to see.
@@decino I must admit, I was somewhat confused in Doom 2016; why they introduced a new type of enemy that was 50 percent Arch-vile and call it something different.
they probably didnt want to name it archvile because they didnt want to lock such an iconic name to a creature that just isnt a real archvile. Id also be a bit disappointed if it was just a summoner reskin... i mean, i dont expect a hitscan attack, since thatd interrupt the flow of the game, but at least resurrecting instead of summoning would be nice.
Thank's for all this videos! Always learn something new about the code, and thanks to you now I can encourage archviles taking less damage keep up te good job! You're good at this
It's amazing how little I know about Doom sometimes despite having played the games over and over since I was 4 years old, playing the game for over two decades at this point. Arch-Viles are assholes but I wouldn't have them any other way.
Yes, they definitely pixel edited the Arch-Vile after video recording it, same as the other monsters. That's how they get pixel-perfect eyes, dead-on gun barrels, etc. (Also how they enlarged the Spider-Demon's gun, especially obvious because they missed a few rotations so it shrinks to a ridiculous degree from the side.)
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i want more nicknames for all the doom enemies like how the cacodemon is a Tomato
Hey, not all Archviles are bad. The one in DOOM II MAP27 that lets you skip the whole level, opening the red door for you, is a true gentleman.
Barney is the MVP
@@n00f I love his name.
Unless he decides to bail and goes away into the teleporter pad like in King Dime's run. :)
You also need the Archie to give you a boost to unlock the secret exit in TEETH. Good thing for the invulnerability sphere they give you in that section, since he's less of a gentleman.
Barney is a bro
*Meanwhile, a swedish man is screaming in agony in the distance.*
“I said NO ARCHVILES! ZERO POINTS!”
*here comes flame boy*
Interesting fact: are all of the Doom monsters male? Please do a video about the topic in 2020 :)
Spoiler: The mancubus and mastermind are female. Iirc everyone else is male
@@_plg what about pain elementals?
Bobby Prince said: ”For his death sound, I recorded a young girl saying 'why,' pitch shifted it down and mixed it with other sounds. The Archvile just doesn't understand why anyone would want to kill him as he sees himself as only doing good for his fellow demon."
If all he did was resurrect demons like some sort of medic, I would understand this interpretation but he had to go all flame boi on us. That's why! I scream as I stomp his bloody corpse.
@@Vistico93 He thinks he's helping people get to his picnic via his firey attack & resurrection. He believes he's doing good & wrapping people in his warm love. Think Pyro from the TF2 character video series :-)
Still wont stop me from pissing on his corpse
Doesn't it petrify people too?
Really? And all this time I thought it did sound like a really garbled "why," and also assumed that in all seriousness I had to be wrong about that interpretation but whatever, it's my own little joke. And now it turns out... I was wrong about being wrong.
Also, wow, the creators were really all over the place on that one. On one hand whoever named it and wrote the manual treated the arch-vile as extra evil, and on the other a sound designer saw it as the most relatively benevolent of all them all. That interpretation makes me wonder if there was a point in development where they only resurrected other demons and that's what he went with, since being perfectly happy to murder Doomguy on sight and any demon that so much as sneezes at them makes that view of the arch-vile's self-image a lot harder to justify. In light of not just resurrecting, but also attacking and being the most vengeful of all, it either makes no sense at all, or they have a truly warped interpretation of their own actions that sees both resurrection AND murder as equal acts of pure benevolence. ...Which would actually be kinda cool for how the evilest and most magically adept demon thinks, now that I think about it.
Demons dont attack Archvile beacuse if they killed him there would be no one to ressurect him. This guy is probably the most respected demon in hell
Oh yeah. That's actually a pretty reasonable and plausible explanation right there.
In DOOM Eternal there is explained that the Arch-Vile is feared because of it's ability to manipulate lower beings (such as other lesser-ranked Demons) to it's will. That way there are two extra explanations:
1. The Demon fears to attack the Arch-Vile back because that may anger it more.
2. Arch-Vile has manipulated the Demon to not fight back.
@@asais1024 damn archviles are truly fucking vile man
ON YOUR KNEES KNOW!!
@@slightlyamusedblackkidfrom9153 they are vile arch enemies of the slayer throughout his crusade
I'm just grateful that Arch-Vile's can't resurrect each other.
That would be Hell on Earth...
Wait.
Dony give I'd software any more fucking ideas
**somewhere, a custom monster modder has read this comment...**
image if he can resurrect cibby and spiddy
what if they could resurrect the icon of sin
"At least these suckers are rare." Hell Revealed II would like to disagree.
HR2 only has like 1,000 of them.
@eggnogyg patreon
"Only" 1,000? I'm scared to see what a challenging amount of Arch-Viles might be.
Have no fear, modders are here >> "Replace All Enemies With Archviles" is a thing. :D
Plutonia experiment*
"There's a ghostly meatball no-clipping around" Is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while.
Imagine that on a 911 call
Video: “Arch-viles cannot revive other Arch-viles
Me: Ironic. They could save others from death, but not themselves.
but then if there were two you would kill one, the other would resurrect, kill that one and the first one resurrects it again
If they could they would just delay the inevitable
@@dmas7749 so they would be like Sith? Y’know, “Always two there are, no more, no less.”
@@dmas7749 This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them.
Kureiji daiyamondo
If you hear closely. You can hear the faint screams and cries of a Swedish man everytime an Archvile attacks
A HUNDRED POINTS OFF
"pretty solid. *opens door and sees an archvile* AAAAA-"
Vargskelethor demon bus.
what is this referencing?
@@luke4djojo Vinesauce Joel. Quite famous for hating Archviles.
"At least these suckers are rare" even the devs hate him
Lol at least now we can buy a talking parrot and teach one to make AV's death sounds for our pleasure )
@@TheBypasser What would be terrifying is to teach parrots the AV 'wake-up' sound. Imagine it 'singing' that sound in the middle of the night....
@@garrettk7166 Feels scary at first but next you feel some warm water around you you can easily put the flames out with. Wait, where did it come from, again? Fuuuuuuu!.....
@@garrettk7166 this post triggered me, please delete this
@@TheBypasser everybody gangsta til the parrot starts making AV sounds.
The arch vile is actually just a misunderstood soul, he's just trying to play patty cake with doomguy but accidentally keeps frying him.. :(
Arch-vile: *uses power on lost soul*
Lost Soul: *Yeet*
4:54
Love the faint “yeet.”
I heard it too
He just pulled a hadoken
@@DustGundam he pulled a sneaky on that lost soil (pun intended)
@@gooberuploadsinc even better
I didn't hear that.
There's an unused ability about an arch vile turning enemy giblets into lost souls.
Holy fuck. As if the Pain Elemental wasn't enough.
I’m really happy that was scrapped. Though that could make for an interesting Archvile variant in mods.
And just like that, The Arch Vile became loved for its challenge instead of hated for its annoyance (I'm looking at you Pain Elemental! Ah, who am I kidding? I still love those goofy-lookin dudes)
@@mollywantshugs5944 Yes, that SHOULD be done in a mod...
Wow awesome
"At least these suckers are rare"
_[Cries in Plutonia]_
I mean...compared to chaingunners and Revenants...
>Opens innocent door
>OOPS, All Archies.
Final DooM in cereal form.
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The Arch-Vile, AKA Joel's nightmare incarnate.
The arch vile is my nightmare made flesh
*here comes flame boy*
*screaming in meatballs and pepsi*
@@bindedisaac7922 boi*
@@plunger2726 *Bowie*
Each version of the Arch-Vile brings something unique. The Doom 2 version had extreme hitscan damage output, the Doom 2016 version (Summoner) had high agility, the Doom Eternal version was a tank with a wide range of abilities, and the Doom 3 version had boxing gloves for hands.
And now the new summoner in the Eternal DLC can apparently possess and buff enemies, to add to that pile.
For the last time. The Summoner is NOT an Arch Vile
@@dustyrust36 Yeah it’s a misconception cuz something said it was the Archvile of Doom 2016 but that doesn’t mean it is one, it just meant it acted similarly to one which it does which also confuses people so they think it’s apart of the same “Demon race”.
While it is not an archvile, it takes on the same role, that's close enough for me
While I love (and to hate) the Arch-Vile in DOOM Eternal, I didn't really like how the demon often remained stationary during attacks. Sure, it'd annoyingly teleport itself somewhere at random in-between attacks but in a future game I'd love if they made it even more like the OG version; *very fast* on foot, and being able to resurrect dead demons in the map. If the Summoner from DOOM (2016) returns, leave the *summoning* and buffing to it, and have the Arch-Vile constantly reviving ones you destroy (and likely wrecking you lol) until you take his sorry behind out.
"If you see an Arch-vile, kill it!"
I'm taking notes here.
I don’t even play doom and that intro still activated my fight or flight response
That is always the correct response to that sound. Find some cover asap.
Well which is it?
BrainlessBrian you should start playing doom
doom is nice game, and has many fun mods to make it to your liking.
@@KingLich451 the one thing no one likes though is the archviles
3:52 this view makes me uncomfortable
"This must be what Hell looks like!"
It's like when you hit a wasp nest and walk away, thinking it was vacant, and as you turn around you see about 50 wasps flying towards you.
Yeah there’s not nearly enough ammo
*_laughs in Russian overkill_*
The Archvile's alerted sound and Spider Mastermind's walking noise are two sound effects that scare the shit out of me more than horror movies could.
"Luckily, these suckers are rare."
*Terry trap PTSD intensifies*
*_N I C E A S S !_*
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"OH YEA YOU CAN'T ESCAPE NOW!"
'At least they're rare."
Plutonia Experiment: **Hellish laughing noises**
*freedoom painlord laugh intensifies*
"Hunted' maze level music playing in the distance
Plutonia 2's Map 11: Arch Violence
"Allow me to introduce myself."
@@SoldierOfFate " *prepare your anus boy!* "
@@naizamabao4681 What's the Painlord?
Inb4 "HERE COMES FLAME BOI"
Soi soi soi soi...
flameflameflameflameflameflameflame
DemoGorgonZola qaapppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
That mildly stings...
Ow that milledly stings
i wish there were more enemies like this in more games... enemies that make you shout "FUCK NO" as soon as you see them.
I always love how creative and sometimes funny you are with the doom analysis video thumbnails
Sandy Petersen had some hand in the Arch-Vile's development, together with Adrian Carmack and Bobby Prince, conceptualizing it as an evil healer with a childlike mentality, not understanding why anyone would hurt it, hence the death scream is a highly distorted *"Why?!"*
The Arch-Vile fits his idea of a Lovecraftian kind of monster, and in fact was suitable for when he recreated one of his personal recurring nightmares as a part of Map 27 : Monster Condo
Quoting him here:
*One of my recurring, and quite specific nightmares, also one of the most terrifying, is for me to be in an old house (often my grandfather’s or father’s), or an old library, and to discover that there is a small secret room there. This secret room is always small, and triangular, tucked into a corner of the building. It has a clouded window shedding a nasty yellow light over the interior. There are occult-looking papers and parchments scattered over an old desk, and on the floor, and old books laying everywhere. An overpowering musty smell is all around.*
*As I look around this strange area, I become aware of movement in the corner. I turn, and a withered, hideous undead Thing rises up - the inhabitant of the secret room. Always mummified and awful, it reaches out a blackened claw towards me. I so far have always awakened before it touched me.*
*This nightmare is so specific (it starts out general, can be in any building, and then becomes more and more specific towards the end), that my fear is sometime it might come true. Logically I know this is impossible. But nightmares aren’t about logic.*
Kinda like TF2 Pyro, who lives in a world of *their* own.
The shit a human mind can put itself through. Damn.
So they have conscience of a child(?),damn, im kinda feeling bad rn
Holy shit. That's crazy.
Idk how you can sleep at night lol
I always loved Arch-vile's wake-up sound. It's so different from the usual monster roar and it still freaks me out.
Definitely an attention-getter
It's like the cloaker noise
@@yoboikamil525 No don't make me imagine a cloaker that revives dozers please T-T
* Tormented cries of a Swedish guy in the background *
5:22
Praise the Almighty spider deamon!!
Decino: uploads a video about the archvile
Me: *Plutonia Experiment flashbacks*
And on 'Hunted' of all levels.
Civvie11 PTSD triggered
Hi. Do you know Plutonia 2? Map 11 Arch-violence is a reference to Plutonias Hunted but on steroids!😂
We do not speak of
It.......
Imagine being my mom during level 11 plutonia wad.
1:33 Mind blown! I always thought, ever since I was a kid, that marble texture was a depiction of a mancubus 😮
Me too, and i still think like that!
I always thought it was a leftover sprite from when they were planning making DOOM being about aliens
Me too!
I knew it was an Archvile all along due to its skeletal face. Instead I thought the Icon of Sin one (with the pentagram) was supposed to depict a Cyberdemon, as if the wall is depicting the top species of Hell (Hell Knights/Barons of Hell, Arch-Viles, and Cyberdemons).
I always thought it was Cthulhu.
0:01 vibe check
"Atleast, they are rare" *laughs in plutonia*
Arch-Viles are perfectly fine enemies, in my opinion. They're incredibly powerful and super annoying to fight, but they're also important and have to be taken out first. It adds another level of strategy.
Not their fault many map makers stuff them in their levels to increase the difficulty artificially.
Not all maps with Archviles have them simply to doom the player via enemy spam. I can’t remember the name of the mod, but a great example of smart Archvile use is the level’s second phase. The level’s full of Pinkys, but none of them can do damage. You’re given a rocket launcher, and the trick is to keep the Pinkys far away enough to keep the rockets from killing you. After enough die and you’re able to move about the level relatively freely, Archviles are released along the walls, reviving the harmless Pinkys and killing you in the process.
@@mintyfreshness4363 Ludicrium, I think.
I probably misspelled that.
Whenever you hear their sound, you instantly go: "HERE COMES DAT BOI"
1:23 this part made me smile
There's something intimidating that other demons dont retaliate against archviles
6:02 _oorrrr_
Use an arch-vile to resurrect shotgunners and chain gunners repeatedly to create infinite ammo.
I usually get the attention of these guys and get them to follow me to a key door. Kill them all, then get an arch-vile to follow you. Hop through the key door, get the Archie to resurrect all the hit scanners, do the “peek-a-boo” with the key door and listen to the carnage!
You can enjoy some coffee or tea while spamming the “open-close” of the key door until the hit scanners have killed the arch-vile. Mop up the survivors and now you have a huge pile of chain guns and shotguns.
Hmm... imagine a DOOM map with no ammo, and you _have_ to do this in order to survive...
This is the very tactic that is used on Go 2 It when completed UV Tyson style.
You're referring to the northern most room in _TNT: Evilution_ MAP17: Processing Area. It usually works, but I've encountered circumstances in which a monster manages to open the door before it's fully shut.
My details are a bit fuzzy, as it's been a while since I played _Doom._
wow you could totally go into the ammo selling business.
I love the YYEEEYY lost soul part
Y E E T*
"At least these suckers are rare."
Plutonia Experiment: *Laughs in Arch-vile Maze*
The flame blinds you for a moment, obscuring incoming fireballs you need to dodge, so there is that too.
"Why-hy-hy do you hate us?!"
That reminds me, Bobby Prince said somewhere that the arch-vile's signature scream is a very distorted "WHY?".
@@BSzili Yeah, he recorded a young girl saying "Why?" and pitch shifted it with other effects.
"I fear no man. But that THING... it scares me..."
- Heavy, TF2
Pretty much cuz ghis guy is a pyromancer, as much as the Pyro?
@@patcatzgames9792 i suspect he has the same viewpoint as Pyro. Warming people up with his love flame, and inviting (resurrecting) people to join his picnic crew :-)
@@garrettk7166 while in us humans, and even the Doomslayer, he is a big nightmare
"No I'm not talking about that FREAK aight? "
Aah... always nice to see Menn of culture...
1:22 Arch vile spin
I love that Decino plays "DOOM II - A Message for the Arch-Vile'' during the intro and outro
One of the three most mechanically interesting demons in game just after the Icon of Sin. The Pain Elemental is annoying to fight but the way it functions makes it one of the cooler monsters in Doom.
Same, they always seemed the most demonic and otherworldly
Oh why thank you
I'm really curious how the Arch-vile is going to work in Doom Eternal, I just can't imagine it working exactly the same.
Probably similar to the Summoner sans the teleporting.
I'll be incredibly disappointed if they don't keep true to the original in every way. It's my favorite demon.
I hope its similar. I got chills on the first trailer that revealed the Archvile. However, the first gameplay demo that culminates in the Archvile made it look like it would be a boss, which would be disappointing. I haven't watched any pre-release stuff past that though.
Inb4 It's just a buffed version of Doom 3 Archie
@@saigyo1 That sounds like something an Arch-vile would say.
these analysis videos are great - fun, to the point and very informative.
decino, thank you for making them!
0:18 "At least these suckers are rare"
Software, ID
Chris O' Neil of OneyNG/OneyPlays is a Patron of yours? Or is that name a coincidence?
Either way fantastic stuff man.
Coincidence.
@@decino Coincident is a good youtuber Mr. Decino, he makes content like yours and posts stream highlights on his channel. Also like you he has a very nice accent.
@@supershyguy1680 hes portuguese
Arch-vile is awesome. He the only enemy every doom player is STILL terrified of. Gotta give him credit for that. He does suffer from being used very poorly in many many many many slaughtermaps. But in well-designed maps Archies work wonderfully well.
DOOM 5's Marauder only manage to intimidate first timers and the mortally challenged. The tell-tale laugh of an Arch-Vile still strikes terror in all who know them.
"Remember back in Doom 2 when we had to fight two Archviles that _one_ time? Those were good days..."
@@expendableround6186 tbf marauders in a chaotic environment are still painful since they’re good at giving you tunnel vision, so they are good for making relatively tame encounters significantly harder rather than being scary on their own. That’s honestly not so different from Doom 2 Archviles come to think of it.
4:55 ARCH-VILE: YEET!
1:23 this is literally the funniest thing I've seen in months.
My sense humor isn't even broken, it's just gone
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Normal folks do stuff like eat broken glass, climb buildings with no safety rope, jump into waterfalls, get deliberately stung by giant wasps... but noooo, that's way too soft for Decino. He wants to deal with freakin' Arch Viles :D
very cool
4:53 "WHEEE!" lmao that's too funny
They're actually saying "yeet"
2:37
Id Software making Doom Eternal: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!!
I still like to think that Doomguy managed to trick one of these guys into resurrecting Daisy. Archviles have their uses.
4:19
"Holy mackerel"
Nice to see that reference when we're talking about the pissed-off martian.
One time i used an archie to get through the final level of a wad, since if the boss dies the level will end even if you're dead, and the boss will never retaliate. It felt good
Look! It’s a wild spycrab!
I'm starting to believe decino's thumbnails are a gift from God himself
In combination with their startling sound file and speed, they always know where you are once aggroe'd, and will be next to the closest wall to you if they can't physically reach you.
And you did mention how other demons wont attack them back, don't forget that means the Archvile will beat both Spider Mastermind and the Cyber Demon 1v1.
The Archvile is the ultimate doom demon! Nice video :)
You make the best technical DooM explanations ever on RUclips, highly enjoyed this one, thanks!
Can you imagine if arch-viles could resurrect other arch-viles? Pure hell!
And imagine if the resurrected Arch-Vile were to be a ghost monster after being crushed. That would be a serious pain due to ammo going through them and luring them to the wall is more of a chore.
*I kinda wanna see it*
I remember reading up about what exactly a ghost monster was. Then one day, I was playing the No rest for the Living maps, and had one happen. One kf the more thrilling moments. An imp corpse got crushed by a door, left 'crushed guts' pile. Got resurrected by an archvile. Boom, ghost monster. I think a better way it was stated is the crushed remains have a height set at 1 or 2 units high. And it resets to be flagged as non solid. So the monster is resurrected as being 1 unit tall, but with regular monster sprite. Only way to kill it is with splash damage, or crushing ceiling.
Great video again. Makes me want to play DooM over and over again
These videos are truly amazing. Thank you so much. Doom is forever one of my favourite gaming experiences and I've dabbled into all sorts of WADs and map creation but to see how it actually works is.. Truly wonderful. Thank you.
00:31 lol the foot race is too funny
I actually never knew that that wall face was an Archvile's, let alone that he had anything resembling a face. Always saw it as parts of his face glued together with the side of his teeth barely visible.
Yeah this blew my mind. Been playing Doom 2 since it came out and never made that connection at all.
They nailed it with this monster.
Also the noise he makes when wandering around, this growl... It is perfect!
I was almost afraid in Ultimate Doom when i saw the archvile door before i knew what it was
5:23All hail King Mastermind.
😂
*Queen Mastermind
@@librarianseraphim3934 *King Mastermind
I love Archviles. Their concept is just outstanding
I so do not regret subscribing to your channel. I've been playing DooM for over twenty years now and I still learn something with every video you put out. I thought I knew it all and every time I learn something new, it's pleasantly mind blowing and simultaneously humbling. Keep 'em coming, man! You continue to expand our knowledge and knowledge is the best weapon you can lend to your fellow marines! :P
4:55 HOIYL FUC! I'm dying from the comedy of this bit.
With the Archvile being one of my favorite enemies in Doom. When I saw this in my notifications, I smiled to my ears. Thanks decino!
Edit: “At least these suckers are rare.” *Laughs in Plutonia*
You beat me to it (in regards to Plutonia, then again it's right when the video begins)
*laughs in hell revealed*
TL;DW: "See an archvile? Kill it"
There, saved you 6 minutes... unless you want decino's soothing voice
you'll miss out on sick epic gamer arch-vile jumps tho
"i can implant this delicious cake directly into your stomach, there, saved you 3 minutes... unless you want to taste it." :P
Who doesn't?
nah, that doesn't summarize the video at all, he explained so much more than just "they are bad", he explained really cool ways to dodge their attacks and how their attacks are calculated and so on. but I get that you were just trying to be funny
if you keep them alive and only king shotgunner and zombie men and chaingunners infinite bullets
"Let's see how Archie resurrects dead stuff" sounds like it would be a Riverdale quote.
Dude I loved the speed comparison and health comparison chart and just everything keep this coming my guy
This is mesmerizing, I've been mapping and playing doom since I can remember but you make me realise that there are still things to be learnt.
Ah, my favourite enemy! About the revive-radius, it never factors the y-position for distance? I have yet to see how they implement it in Doom Eternal, will be interesting to see.
Vertical position is not checked for distance, no. Doom Eternal Archie will most likely be a Summoner clone.
No it doesn't. Not even in default GZDoom.
@@decino I must admit, I was somewhat confused in Doom 2016; why they introduced a new type of enemy that was 50 percent Arch-vile and call it something different.
they probably didnt want to name it archvile because they didnt want to lock such an iconic name to a creature that just isnt a real archvile.
Id also be a bit disappointed if it was just a summoner reskin... i mean, i dont expect a hitscan attack, since thatd interrupt the flow of the game, but at least resurrecting instead of summoning would be nice.
i love the fact that you used Hunted's song from the Plutonia Midi Pack for the video! Excellent work as always!
Thank's for all this videos! Always learn something new about the code, and thanks to you now I can encourage archviles taking less damage
keep up te good job! You're good at this
Ah, Joel’s favorite enemy.
4:20 HOLY MACKERAL
i see you are a fan of PRO DOOM STRATS too, Decino
So that thing is still relevant
wow
Love your videos man, keep em coming
You make chill videos bro, I love watching them.
It's amazing how little I know about Doom sometimes despite having played the games over and over since I was 4 years old, playing the game for over two decades at this point. Arch-Viles are assholes but I wouldn't have them any other way.
*[Sweet Little Dead Bunny intensifies]*
*Always Watching
Fix’d
Wow man your in-depth research is incredible. Keep it up 👍
love your videos!!! another excellent one here :)
You should mention this to Joel from vinesauce, his “favorite” monster
Thanks for the like.
Imagine how much less threatening the archvile would be if it had its irl model in game without the face
"...At least these suckers are rare."
Plutonia: Allow me to introduce myself.
6:11 this image is so sweet :3
Huh, i always figured those faces on the walls were chaingunner/heavy weapon dude faces
I thought they were mancubus's face. And i still think like that.
I felt my heart rate double when I heard the music from Sunder map05 and Plutonia 2 map11...two maps I'd rather forget.
Your videos are so interesting, because you analyse all the possibilities of the topic, for example the case of the pain elemental
Yes, they definitely pixel edited the Arch-Vile after video recording it, same as the other monsters. That's how they get pixel-perfect eyes, dead-on gun barrels, etc. (Also how they enlarged the Spider-Demon's gun, especially obvious because they missed a few rotations so it shrinks to a ridiculous degree from the side.)
That Spiderdemon chaingun always looked off, yeah.