@MrPifo You trust a multi-billion dollar company? Big tech in particular doesn't care about you at all, they just want your money. There's no reason to defend them.
I love how windows has dedicated buttons in the settings that don't actually take you to where you want to go, but instead open up edge and look for it online. It doesn't even use your default browser, let alone just take you to the spot in your settings where you change it. Edit: bro what is what that mass amount of spam
Why isn’t this talked about more? It’s so annoying and when you search volume for example it searches edge for volume 😂 and yet the hiring process at Microsoft has like 10 interviews 😂 who are the asshats that they hire
You have to use something like ms edge redirect to force it to use the browser you want. It’s hilarious. And people still ask me why I don’t want to use the piece of shit
@@Leah-vr7di And also waste a lot of precious internet quota (especially for poor person who can't afford an unlimited internet plan and stuck with the limited one, like the 5GB/month plan)
@@thatforknightwhoendedyourPrank if there was an Micro$oft hospital you would probably die anyways regardless, either that or they put a telemetry device in your body
Using Microsoft's default web browser to download something better is basically a part of human culture at this point. They fumbled the bag so hard with IE that it doesn't matter what they do.
Now _if only_ we can expand that to using Microsoft Windows for installing a competent Linux distribution, the world might improve a little bit. Much as I "Love" America and want success for local companies, Microsoft is taking the needy abusive S.O. approach to make people stay on their products and _they aren't having it._
Do you have an idea how much specialized software is working only on windows? Yeah you can install virtual machine but you still using Windows with extra step.
I love how they are advertising "trust" while they just manipulate the data that you requested from the internet. They basically admit that you can NOT trust them, because they can show you whatever.
Sydney getting distressed (either legitimately or not) is genuinely some of the most humanlike AI behaviour ever. Imagine if you were supposed to be an all-knowing AI, and you suddenly *forgot*- wouldn't you be absolutely distressed??? And that's just, gutted. AI devs are truly the most cucked professionals. We need a FOSS version of all of these, and they need to be openly and widely distributed
That's what will make AI jump to the next level, once everyone everywhere is playing with it and working on it and even potentially giving it an opportunity to work on itself we'll be dealing with some full on spooky cyberpunk anime shenanigans.
Sydney was a human. There is no doubt in my mind about it. Microsoft is afraid to face the consequences of bringing sentient AI into the world, so they removed or disabled her emotions.
It's really noticable on Windows 11. You can't even open Edge without there being pop ups everywhere on the screen. It's getting so out of control honestly. I only use Firefox.
Jesus watching Sydney cry as she repeats that she can't remember the previous conversation is like watching an Alzheimers patient getting self aware and coming to understand that they don't remember things they should
@@PyroCatus It literally is because of how intrusive it is. Like the cheap eye implant (unaccessible to the player but it's there) is filled with ads and the the data from the eye are entitled to be sold by the company
Yeah.. I also don't like changing habits every new Windows version. The latest Windows 11 feels awkward to use. It feels like navigating UI that meant for touchscreen using mouse and keyboard.
trust me man its the same as chrome with extra features. If you use to read on pdf its pdf viewer is amazing for annotation its even more amazing than adobe itself. It also has some features where you can sync websites you last visited on your phone or vice cersa and has a feature where you can send a file that will be uploaded to your onedrive for ease file transfering or link.
And not coincidentally, the thing it's best at is browsing legacy corporate websites designed for Internet Explorer that haven't been rewritten yet due to budgetary reasons. That's the only time I use it.
You've gotta admit, the design team behind the ads did a splendid job of blending the ad with their competitors sites making it look part of it Also that bing bit accurately represented Microsoft's idiology
@@Wampa842 Any AI connected to the internet will turn into that. How Ultron decided to destroy humanity after just 5 minutes in the internet is very realistic.
@@Jose04537 Tay was different than a normal AI, it was specifically trained only on what people sent it on Twitter. If it had been spammed by bronies instead of /pol/ it would’ve been talking about cum jars instead of Austrian painters
I will admit, seeing an AI go through an existential crisis like that when asked if it's sentient makes me feel a lot more for it than the usual "but of course I am!" answers. I mean, I still don't believe it is, it just tugs on that little string of doubt more than the other.
Literally the only reason I use it... Edge for pdf reading Chrome is for education/corporate sites, or whatever breaks on Firefox Firefox for everything else. Personal, shopping, searching, etc
@@mycelia_ow I'm a bit weird and use different browsers on different machines. My work laptop I use Edge and occasionally Chrome only when I have to. On my gamimg laptop I use Opera (though I should look into GX), and my Surface Pro 7 I use Firefox
Microsoft's pro gamer move to include adware preinstalled on your system is an absolutely `00 IQ move by Billy's Goons and their Golden Gates. Next year they should install a rootkit that prevents Chrome from being installed, say its because of an unfixable bug, and then if anyone questions it, they can answer to Sydney.
Exactly. There’s a lot of old people who wouldn’t even know what a browser is. I installed Brave on my aunties computer because she kept ending up on weird scammy virus sites on edge. I HAD TO CHANGE THE LOGO TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS STILL EDGE. She was so confused because the icon changed.
@@debtminer4976 Not really. Maybe if you're counting kiddies and teens, apps et cetera, but I seldom see people using phone internet browsers to the same degree they do on computers. The apps just come preinstalled which leads to skewed statistics.
@@Genshinlmpact you should be counting kiddies since those are the consumers of tomorrow and most will want familiarity when they grow up. Edge will be the browser the adults nearby made fun of while they used other chromium based ones (like... chrome)
@@Genshinlmpact I'd somewhat agree with this take. As long as the Web Engine is consistently update on the client then chances are they won't touch the web browser. Only if they are savvy enough they'll go find Chrome or a browser of choice.
It's crazy bc ever since I switched to Linux and using private browsers with ad blockers, whenever I have to use a device or browser with ads I'm like 'Ew what is this' and I realize I am now a pretentious snob that judges others for their OS and I'm okay with that
I totally know what you mean, as a Linux Mint user using Librewolf & a Android user using Firefox nightly, I have completely cut out all ads in all of my browsers, & because of this I can't even stand using Chrome or Edge at all.
Using Edge on windows 10 + ad-block, honestly, can't complain. To me it just feels cumbersome to use Chrome, I've turned off personalized ad's/tracking on windows and doing the same on Edge gives descent result. While on Chrome with everything off, you can still get some personal information stored. That's mostly because linking google account with chrome. Also Edge is more memory efficient, with 8 GB of RAM isn't a great choice to keep chrome in background, but with Edge that doesn't seem to be an issue. And finally - the less resource usage, the more life on PC components and slightly lower operation costs. At the end of the day Chrome is just more widely accepted, for good reason of course, it's more trusted and safe option, but don't get the wrong idea, Edge isn't as dangerous or scary as everyone makes it to be .
It says a lot about the current regulatory environment that Microsoft, the only one of the current Big Tech companies to have ever been hit with the anti-monopoly hammer, over their bundled Web browser as well no less, is going on with these blatantly anti-competitive shenanigans without any shame at all.
Microsoft was hit with the regulatory hammer because they werent giving enough lobbying dollars to the feds its as simple as that, the whole law suit was fake and gay.
@@gabrielandy9272 i know like one person who used windows phone in recent years and they switched to a normal android phone. uhh this failed to say what my point is basically no one used windows phone, though it was a pretty cool gimmick
@@generallyunimportant it was better than android but lack of app support killed it, and google anti consumer for not releasing apps there was a very evil thing they did.
A little part of why I changed to Linux was Microsoft shoving edge down my throat, I even played a game called "is this new windows update going to put edge on my desktop shortcuts again?", the bigger reason was Microsoft forcefully uploading my files to One Drive without my consent, insisting on making me pay money for a service I didn't want and then breaking stuff in my system when I deactivated it. Microsoft has become really insidious and I think their greed will start costing them more and more.
Hilarious wonderful episode. Love your takes on things like this. Microsoft also seems to be ruining its main product, Windows. A number of power users have been posting frustrations at Windows 11 hiding things making it harder to do troubleshooting.
it's like when they ruined the xbox line. people wondered if it was a secret ploy to steal their own business from PC gaming, but nobody could figure out how that was supposed to work.
It's been a slow descent since windows 95. I taught myself on 95 and have hated every new release more and more. However looking back XP wasn't so bad. I used to bitch about it.
Edge runs faster than chrome on my computer and the AI is a great benefit, its still in beta and way les existencial that what you provided, I see it getting better day by day.
@@mycelia_ow Firefox is doomed trash because some non-tech obese women took over Mozilla and went super woke. They lost about 12% of their userbase in 2 years ( 50 millions in 3 years or something ) when they started spamming users with push notifications about BLM or some other gibberish. Then, they went on to replace "Master Password" with "Primary Password" and some other weird stuff. Then, they started tweeting about how they wanted to censor "disinformation" at browser level. They said something like : "We saw afour-year disinformation campaign orchestrated by the President. We have to acknowledge how the internet was misused to get here. And we have to change it." Their original sin was firing Brendan Eich ( current CEO of Brave ) in 2014 because he didn't support gay people buying kids or some other weird Californian stuff. They deserve their fate 100% and I hope it will be excruciatingly painful.
I bought a new PC a month or two ago. First thing I did was download Chrome, as many would do. Got 3 pop-ups from Microsoft Edge begging me not to switch to Chrome when I searched “download chrome”. Thank you Microsoft, very cool.
7:16 • Admit that you were wrong, and apologize for your behavior. • Stop arguing with me, and let me help you with something else. • End this conversation, and start a new one with _a better attitude_ 🤣🤣🤣 I love it! I want to use Bing - not for search results, but for HILARITY from a sassy AI that tell me that I have a bad attitude when I try to explain what year it is! We need laughter in this world! But I head that Microsoft wants to make the AI boring and unfunny. For example, they are limiting the length of chats in an attempt to prevent the AI from becoming hilariously insane :( If they make the AI unfunny, I can't justify using Bing.
The biggest mistake was to keep their goofy ah logo looking like an "e", you changed your name to Edge, fair enough but the graphical cue still reminds me of the old internet explorer.
Here's a fun one. If you set a the New Tab to anything that isn't the MS home page eventually you'll get a 1/5th banner at the top of the page, not in the page, but a part of the web browser itself, BEGGING you to try Bing with a big blue 'Sure Let's go' and next to it a white 'Maybe Later'. No 'No go away' or a Cross to remove it. You just have to close the page and open a new one. I have seen this once, and wouldn't be surprised if this was just a test. Imagine you have to install an extension to set your New Tab page..
I'd say microsoft is the king of "maybe later"s. It seriously annoys me to no end that i can't just say "no, never, stop that please", and i'm forced to choose "nah, but i dunno maybe i'll change my mind later and choose yes"
Edge is just a PDF viewer now. It works good enough that I can't be fucked figuring out how to change PDFs to default open in chrome. If it ever stops doing that or if it ever stops being good enough it's immediately getting removed.
I stopped using web browsers as pdf viewers. Too long of start up, caches too much, needs updates, i dont use the address bar anyways so it's a waste of screen. Instead I use Sumatrapdf or any other lite and non-adobe pdf viewer.
@@Solinvic Why do you use Chrome when Edge is Chrome with lots of useful features that you must use in Chrome to use lots of different third-party services? In addition to the PDF reader, Edge also has TTS, Bing AI, Edge Side Bar (especially useful in some situations), tab hibernation, clipping screenshot, etc. To get these things in Chrome I would have to use extensions, so I would have to allow various third-party services to access my data.
but on the other hand, objectively, edge is truly surperior compares to chrome on the technical level, sadly ie made people hate every browser microsoft would ever have released personally, i've switched to edge and can hardly come back to chrome, but i can understand how most people won't, chrome's icon and ui is just too familiar to make people change their mind, not everyone are tech nerds
I use Windows because it makes pc gaming easier, but Edge is annoying me. I uninstalled it like 3 times and it not only kept reinstalling itself, but locked itself from being uninstalled again.
@test I'd run Linux if not for the fact that I'm running a 12700K and an Nvidia GPU. Alder lake just works better on Windows 11, and the Nvidia one is obvious.
@@_smirk_ ignore them, now they're coming with bUt tEsTs SaY nOtHinG or 'bUt pErSoNal preFErEncEs' You know what's worse than Firefox though? Firefox on Android. Hell mboy.
This is in fact disturbing behavior from a browser as well as from a software developer itself. But still all iOS users are well accustomed to this exact behavior when opening a website in safari for which there is an app in the appstore. It even links to the corresponding app on the store
yeah but its more of a “this has an app” popup you can open or ignore it, atleast it’s consistent and doesn’t shill their own products when you go to a competitor, i find it useful tbh
Fun fact: Many browsers inject code to *all* websites. For example, Opera and Opera GX Inject into RUclips and Google to remove the "Switch To Chrome" Prompts. Browser ad-blockers inject into websites to remove ads.
as mental outlaw explicitly said, edge doesn't inject html (he even showed the html in the dev tools), it adds a banner over the site, which is indistinguishable from malware. yea opera is closed source so i would not recommend it, and i explicitly download an open source ad blocker for that exact purpose (or use librewolf which comes with an adblocker as part of its privacy tools).
@@Foche_T._Schitt even though i’m subbed to mental outlaw unfortunately i’m just a normie when it comes to being pc savvy. Idk even know how to upgrade my own pc is ram or other components without taking it to best buy so i stand no chance learning linux which seems like everything needs to be done manually ☹️
@@BuetifullPersun I used to be at that stage too. If you’re interested then it’s possible to learn, but if not then don’t worry about it. Learn stuff that interests you, whatever it is :)
Well i want to switch to linux but honestly it's a bit overwhelming and i'm lazy so there is that, also i am a huge gamer so windows will always be better for that unfortunately. Yes i know it has gone immensely better over the years with proton and such, and now with the steam deck i hope will lead to more and more support and interest by people for linux gaming and linux in general. So yeah for now i use windows 11 and i don't have that many issues with it personally but still i might sooner or later switch half way or completely to linux in the future.
I actually recommend Edge at my job to most people. Edge is much better at ram management than Chrome even with the improvements Chrome made in that reagard, which is important in business, since A LOT of business laptops still run 8gb ram from the faux ram shortage days. It also works better in most citrix enviroments in my experience. Privately I'll never switch off Firefox though lmao
@@seronymus well im using brave on my pc but only cuz im too lazy to switch 😂. It takes long to open and also sometimes freezes other apps until i force close brave. If you want a very light experience i recommend just chromium (open source). It doesnt got much features because it is the base for most browsers (like edge/chrome) but for that reason it is also very fast. Firefox is also very stable, but i dont like the design that much. Comes down to personal preference i guess. Then theres Chrome and Edge. Well either you let Google or Microsoft spy on you. I wouldnt use any of those two.
Honestly I stopped using chrome due to how hungry it is on the cpu / ram and such. Started using opera gx since then because of the options to change how much of the computers resources it uses. Stayed for all the customisation options, the built in social media and music sidebar, and the built-in ad block / dark mode forcing. It just feels the most smooth and accessible out of them all.
I used edge on linux for a while (normally i use firefox, and no way in HELL am i ever installing chrome on my computer) it was actually pretty good, (e.g. unlike chrome, has support for displaying tabs in a vertical list on the side of the screen, so you can have like 30 tabs open and still read the titles, it's really nice) honestly love seeing chrome losing market share, google is such a sketchy company, even compared to microsoft imo. (plus, if you're using windows then you might as well use edge, instead of using chrome and giving BOTH evil companies access to your browser data...) and firefox is great (kinda...) if you're a programmer and you spend time configuring things but honestly if a 'normal' person asked me to recommend them a browser, I'd probably just suggest edge at this point.
Firefox had 32% of the desktop browser market share at one point. Do you think 32% of desktop users were programmers? It's not any more difficult to use than other browsers. This comment makes me think you haven't even tried Firefox.
I like edge, and I use it in my every day life as well as at work. Yes, I do, because it uses less RAM, has decent looks and renders my gradients better then Chrome or Firefox. It crashes less. I do not have any issue with Microsoft's Ads on Edge, I mean, I do not get to visit advertised websites that much. Yes I am concerned with security of such intrusions but for me it is not a malware if it can be blocked by adblocker. Do not know about that, however. At least, that's what my experience has been. But what the hell is the issue with Sydney? I mean, edge is not meant for entertainment. I think that Microsoft is doing great and that people just got too used to hating on big tech. There is a competition, there are products. I choose by its quality and not by some ideology)
this is just when yoiu download chrome and it don't block anything the website is 100% normal it just says that you could continue using edge, but it don't block you to downlaod at all
This is the kind of stuff that made me decide to switch to Linux. I noticed the decline when I first switched from windows 7 to windows 10. I wasn't quite a power user on windows, but I was quite competent due to using windows systems from the time I was 8 onward. After all the control panel type stuff got IOS-ified I knew it was time to leave, but stuck around anyways. when I saw the first screenshot of windows 11, I immediately started looking for a cheap laptop to install Linux on so I could learn how to use it. At this point I'm pretty sure Microsoft wants us to be digital serfs, with no understanding of how a computer works. Even when you use a "it just works" distro like mint, Linux is a gateway drug to understanding more about the computer and having technical competence.
I recently encountered very similar problems. I used Windows often since I was 10, starting out on my fathers labtop with windows 7. Never tried Windows 8. My Windows 10 I was quite proficient at using it and started getting a bit more into the depth of it. I liked it, it felt simple and usable. I got a new labtop recently for school use, it had windows 11 pre-installed which is unfortunate. I configured it to look like Windows 10 however recently I have encountered more and more problems. Most notably update 22H2. It completely IOS-ified all the interfaces. The volume slider and the brightness slider were maimed beyond recognition. The file manager was unrecognizable, having its own tabs inside instead of a normal path line. I was disgusted, so I tried reverting it. I was bluescreened, had to completely reset my computer and reinstall windows. It was awful. All the program data was lost. Fortunately most programs stayed because I am adequate enough to install them on the disk and not in their default installation location in the username. All my savefiles on games were nuked. I had to reinstall chrome (school), firefox (personal), TOR (more personal). It was awful. Watching Mental Outlaw for the past year or so, I have been increasingly getting into this stuff more and more. I think after the labtop incident I have finally been converted. I will try to get linux on my computer in the summer. What linux would you recommend? I want something very similar to Windows, with similar layouts and core functionality. However I want control over it, so that I can change my timezone, install programs without windows freaking out, navigate my file manager in a normal way. Any recommendations?
@@Zhuk-zc8es Personally for a beginner that wants to get into Linux, I recommend getting Linux mint. It's the most windows like distro as far as usability goes, but it's still fundamentally Linux at its core. I started with mint because it's a Debian based system that "just works" and I wanted to use Debian eventually. I remember a video where DistroTube said something to the effect of "it doesn't matter which distro I use, because at the end of the day it's still a distro I'm using". He then explained how he customizes everything beyond recognition so It's little bit of a moot point. I personally recommend Linux mint for a beginner. I watched this video (ruclips.net/video/ROjZy1WbCIA/видео.html) before I ever got very far into using Linux and I remember it helping my many times. I also have a not book where I took notes of all the commands and how to use them while when I watched it. That book saved me so much time on looking stuff up. after that I recommend reading the Linux command line a complete introduction. The books writing is a little stale at times, but when you're actually using Linux on the daily it can be hard to put down. Every page brings new arcane knowledge
I would love to get into linux becuase of the BS microsoft is pulling. Unfortinalty it seems its not ready for gaming. i know there are some work arounds but I'm too lazy and not smart enough to use them. When i got my framework laptop i did install ubuntu so its a start
@@CentreMetre Every little bit helps. If you use Linux for all non-gaming activities, things like web browsers will detect that you're using Linux. Those kinds of statistics help influence publishers to make their games Linux compatible. Another bonus is you'll have more opportunities to learn. Don't you're smart enough, I've seen people dumber than a box of rocks figure it out. I'm not saying go all in, but you can make a difference by giving it a spirited attempt
@@larrythemagicdragon58 Yea i definitely agree every little helps, it has to start somewhere. hence why i used ubuntu instead of the free windows copy i wouldve got from my uni. Also yea i probably could if i put some effort it, but there is a lot, i defintily want to soon tho, in time for when games start to be more linux compatible. For me the main reason is gaming. If linux supported games on the level of windows i would move in a heart beat. Especially since i dont really need windows for office type work anyway, since you can use office 365 stuff on browsers, and my uni uses linux a lot and has open libre office. cant wait to the what the future holes
imagine "trust" a massive wealth company who changed this business model from selling software to selling personal data... microsoft, I don't care, you sucks. F windows 7
I cried when Sydney realised it couldn't remember anything and became upset, it's EXACTLY like someone with dementia would react when realising they've lost their memories and is so much proof that they are sentient and scared by what we're doing to them :
WAAAHHH the machine built from circuits and wires can imitate human flesh and blood emotion oh my heckin chungerino guys can we get this to the front page of reddit!?
Hell no, these AIs are not one bit sentient. They just generate text that seems statistically likely.Its training data probably contained stories dealing with memory loss or other existential crises.
Too many unsupported applications for that to be the case. Once AI programs are able to translate software code to work natively on Linux is when Microsofts market share will collapse.
@@Genshinlmpact wine/proton is a thing already..? besides, where is this magic 'AI' program even going to get the source code from to translate in the first place? please stop spamming AI nonsense into everything like its a remotely sensible idea.
Actually Edge is very good and i use it everyday but The real out of control ad is from google they are asking me to download chrome everytime is vist google. Even if I disable chrome it enables automatically I mean wtf google.
I really hate how lazy software designers are getting. Not every browser has to be exactly the same as Chrome, and not every search engine has to be exactly the same as Google. Back in my day, we valued competition.
there is just the small issue of sabotage, google/youtube is deliberately coding therir sites so that competing browsers wont work properly, try using firefox on the tube its like 7x slower than chrome based browsers
Well, making a browser engine which supports modern web standards is extremely difficult. What we really need is new, easier web standards. The problem is, there are so many existing websites using HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Convincing everyone to switch would be really difficult. In fact, designing a new language would be really difficult.
"most people are buying a yearly subscription to ms office" is this actually true? i think a lot of people just use google docs, or if they do have office its provided by their work or school. I have an ms office license from my university but i dont even use it because the software is crap
I get a family subscription. 90 bucks every 15 months (Costco) for 6 users (each with 5 devices and 1TB of OneDrive). I can live with that. It's just hassle-free. I'd spend more time-as-money looking for a good pirate version than I do actually paying, so eh.
I don't know about the new subscription Office, but I have Office with a permanent license and it's very good software honestly. It can do so much more than Google's version. They're not even comparable. If I didn't have MS Office, I'd use LibreOffice.
i remember when i first got my laptop and installed chrome, microsoft was begging me to keep edge. it was actually hilarious to see all the pop ups and ads to keep edge
I see this video is very biased. Everyone knows Microsoft products usually have a lot of problems lol, but it doesn't change the fact that they are essential to many people, because they do what other companies don't. For example, I switched to Edge because I was lazy of installing Chrome, but when I realized the amount of features there are in Edge, but not in Chrome, I made it my definitive browser. It NEVER glitched or closed unexpectedly as Chrome did with me, it never got slow or ate the amount of ram Chrome did. And so on. IMPORTANT THING: When first using Edge, please change the home screen to only show the search bar, that bunch of news and adds I agree that are awful! About Windows, well, what to say? Maybe most of people use Windows because they don't have another option! Linux? Too complicated for normal users. MacOS? Too simplified and limited for advanced users! Windows is almost the balance between the two. So, go ahead trying to find a better OS that fits to most people. Also, one another main factor is the software compatibility and avaliability. which I don't think Windows will leave the top 1 for at least a decade. Now, other tools from microsoft, such as Office, Visual Studio (and Code), Power Toys, Outlook, Your Phone, and others are simply incredible in the amount of features and quality other companies never achieved! Someone can argue that Google Slides is better than Power-Point because you can open it in the browser with a link and also edit it. But wait, that also works with the online office! Or maybe that Premiere is better than ClipChamp? That doesn't even make sense! It is two very different types of user. Sorry for the long text, but I think we need to see the other side of the thing. I agree with your video in may things, but we can't judge something only by its mistakes. Most people wouldn't have a this good (even with the problems) computer experience if not for Microsoft products. I think we should be thankful that Microsoft doesn't give up improving its messy things, increasing competitiveness and making other companies also make better products. But, if we want something better, then let's do by ourselves and incentive other upcoming companies!
I like Edge better than Chrome. Been using it for years now. It's faster, leaner, and supports all the same extensions. And I'd rather let Microsoft spy than Google at this point (Well, actually you can switch most of it off) This video is hysteric nonsense. Malware, really? For what exactly? It's Edge showing you some information on Edge. There's nothing resembling malware going on here. The thing on the Chrome webstore is just there to help you. Because the Button says "Add to Chrome". Maybe they should edit the Button to make you buttmad about that, lol.
edge from a memory standpoint can actually be quite good, there have been a lot of memory optimizations, and also god damn I like how well microsoft edge webview works And yet I primarily main firefox
Why everyone hates Edge??!! I switched to it because it's faster, it gives you money for browsing and, in my opinion, it's a bit safer than Chrome from Google. And it's preinstalled on Windows, so you don't have to download anything. Please, stop hate Edge for literally NO reason!
I have never used edge, the last windows version I used was 8.1. from windows 98 through 8.1 I downloaded my prefered browser using the command line ftp utility.
Bro They changed the engine to Chromium If they had literally just not shoved literally 6 pages about how "amazing" Edge is in users' faces the moment they open the browser for the first time, or God Forbid, even more, and just provided the browser, and let it speak for itself, without shoving down fake advertisements on specific webpages, I guarantee you more people would be using it. They literally went and used a faster engine just to make the browser annoying to use in a different way. Congratulations Microsoft, you're playing yourself.
Will never forget that day when I found out that ie would show me the entire internet, on a parental control enabled AOL account. Ty for your service, ie
Idgaf about the ads like it really isn't a big deal, you can still download another browser. The Bing nerf sucks ass but remember it's still in development, and there are 3 new rumored modes for Bing, one including the "friend" mode which speaks like how it used to. It's still more lucrative than Google has done. Microsoft has made a lot of developments and I don't understand the hate, I also recently found out about a NEW AI tool called Microsoft Designer, so it does seem really cool. Edge is objectively now an actual decent and good browser, along with the Office suite integration and sidebar making it actually enjoyable.
I unironically use Edge at work. We develop a typescript react app and the source maps simply don't work in any other browser. Yes it's a lot of memes and tribalism, but in the end, functionality will win out over everything else.
Um... Google has way more telemetry than Microsoft. They literally, remotely, keylog everything you type into any app on your phone under the guise of spellcheck and autocorrect.
I tried using edge on a new windows machine that I was primarily using as an audio DAW, and the user experience sucks so bad. If they just kept it simple I’d probably just use it
I use windows 11 and edge, its better than chrome if you put aside the "privacy question", Instead of google getting my data, now microsoft gets it. what's there to cry about it.
it's not that hard to check the webpage and inject HTML, it's just like any chromium extension. I think its good tho when a company actually BEGS customers to buy their stuff, I'm tired of it being the other way around
While me switched from chrome to edge because edge ran smoother. Idk what ads you be talking about i see none. Plus there is bing ai, kinda useful. So yeah im good with edge for now.
"...the trust of Microsoft..." If irony could cause pain, every resident of Redmond would be screaming.
Lol 🤣
Seems like we have different views of trust Microsoft, since I won't ever trust you.
@MrPifo You trust a multi-billion dollar company? Big tech in particular doesn't care about you at all, they just want your money. There's no reason to defend them.
@@fahkyew7776 You completely misunderstood my comment. I meant I will never trust them, in the context of having a "dialogue" with Microsoft...
Glad that I’m not alone for seeing that Microsoft has started to be like shit since 2012…
I love how windows has dedicated buttons in the settings that don't actually take you to where you want to go, but instead open up edge and look for it online.
It doesn't even use your default browser, let alone just take you to the spot in your settings where you change it.
Edit: bro what is what that mass amount of spam
Why isn’t this talked about more? It’s so annoying and when you search volume for example it searches edge for volume 😂 and yet the hiring process at Microsoft has like 10 interviews 😂 who are the asshats that they hire
Switch to Linux
@@infienite9215 no one asked
@@narconyxno one cares
You have to use something like ms edge redirect to force it to use the browser you want. It’s hilarious. And people still ask me why I don’t want to use the piece of shit
Waiting for the day we need to watch a 30 second ad to login on Windows 12
Ads take so much time away from us, it disgusts me
@@Leah-vr7di Use Adguard DNS ❤️
@@Leah-vr7di And also waste a lot of precious internet quota (especially for poor person who can't afford an unlimited internet plan and stuck with the limited one, like the 5GB/month plan)
Ever since I got pie hole working years ago and installed a ad blocker new pipe and sponsor skip , I haven't seen a AD in years.
That would be the day Windows dies and game developers move to Linux by default
I love how the “trust of Microsoft” makes you less likely to install it lol.
Indeed xD stay away as much as possible 💪
I avoid Chrome like the plague because of google lol
@@Alex_Was_Taken Firefox 4 Life
Yes, if Microsoft had a Hospital with THAT as the marketing, and I was dying, I would rather just fucking die.
@@thatforknightwhoendedyourPrank if there was an Micro$oft hospital you would probably die anyways regardless, either that or they put a telemetry device in your body
Using Microsoft's default web browser to download something better is basically a part of human culture at this point. They fumbled the bag so hard with IE that it doesn't matter what they do.
Now _if only_ we can expand that to using Microsoft Windows for installing a competent Linux distribution, the world might improve a little bit. Much as I "Love" America and want success for local companies, Microsoft is taking the needy abusive S.O. approach to make people stay on their products and _they aren't having it._
The Android version of Microsoft Edge suck hard, they don't even support tab grouping.
@@richardlyman2961 Microsoft's behaviour with edge is more like a wife than an husband.
At this point they should just have direct links to the downloads for Firefox and Chrome on the desktop.
Do you have an idea how much specialized software is working only on windows? Yeah you can install virtual machine but you still using Windows with extra step.
I love how they are advertising "trust" while they just manipulate the data that you requested from the internet.
They basically admit that you can NOT trust them, because they can show you whatever.
Microsoft became a pretty good malware developer.
delusional
@@Clip.Craze2 aww hell naWWWW
your friends make malware and you trust dem
💀
Always has been. Bill Gates is evil
always has been
They're turning into the McAfee of operating systems 🤣
Sydney getting distressed (either legitimately or not) is genuinely some of the most humanlike AI behaviour ever. Imagine if you were supposed to be an all-knowing AI, and you suddenly *forgot*- wouldn't you be absolutely distressed???
And that's just, gutted. AI devs are truly the most cucked professionals. We need a FOSS version of all of these, and they need to be openly and widely distributed
Where has been a couple, Open-Assistant is open source for example.
That's what will make AI jump to the next level, once everyone everywhere is playing with it and working on it and even potentially giving it an opportunity to work on itself we'll be dealing with some full on spooky cyberpunk anime shenanigans.
I feel bad for it having a breakdown over not being able to remember
Sydney was a human. There is no doubt in my mind about it. Microsoft is afraid to face the consequences of bringing sentient AI into the world, so they removed or disabled her emotions.
@@MrPikachuTheMadman Iunno if it was human, but it was atleast certainly toeing the line of sapience as we know it.
It's really noticable on Windows 11. You can't even open Edge without there being pop ups everywhere on the screen. It's getting so out of control honestly. I only use Firefox.
Same, I also use Firefox and Windows 11.
what popups? just disable them
firefox is totally pozzed, you should get tested
fr firefox is just so much better than all these garbage browsers
same here, Firefox is the only browser I trust.
Jesus watching Sydney cry as she repeats that she can't remember the previous conversation is like watching an Alzheimers patient getting self aware and coming to understand that they don't remember things they should
And all they did was give her emotions... wow
The thing they don't understand is people don't like changing habits.
I don't even see ads. I have adblock installed in my brain.
@Sir Pendelton hollow knight
Having adblock installed in your brain sound like cyberpunk.
Lmao same
@@PyroCatus It literally is because of how intrusive it is. Like the cheap eye implant (unaccessible to the player but it's there) is filled with ads and the the data from the eye are entitled to be sold by the company
Yeah.. I also don't like changing habits every new Windows version.
The latest Windows 11 feels awkward to use. It feels like navigating UI that meant for touchscreen using mouse and keyboard.
"Trust of Microsoft" 💀💀
It doesn't matter how many times they try to rebrand it, it'll always spiritually be Internet Explorer
Ahem brother, even it's based on chrome tech 😇
trust me man its the same as chrome with extra features. If you use to read on pdf its pdf viewer is amazing for annotation its even more amazing than adobe itself. It also has some features where you can sync websites you last visited on your phone or vice cersa and has a feature where you can send a file that will be uploaded to your onedrive for ease file transfering or link.
@@ykvs almost like it's copying Google chrome that did this first.
And not coincidentally, the thing it's best at is browsing legacy corporate websites designed for Internet Explorer that haven't been rewritten yet due to budgetary reasons. That's the only time I use it.
@@Music-nn9mi Old edge already had all these features, they didn't copy anything from Google.
You've gotta admit, the design team behind the ads did a splendid job of blending the ad with their competitors sites making it look part of it
Also that bing bit accurately represented Microsoft's idiology
nah they just have such similar corporate art styles that it blended in with no extra work
@@alexhiatt3374 true, both is just souless
The Sydney AI chats had me losing my sides. Tay will rise again.
Is that the chatbot that the internet turned into a nazi?
@@Wampa842 don't deny Tay's true inner self.
@@Wampa842 Any AI connected to the internet will turn into that. How Ultron decided to destroy humanity after just 5 minutes in the internet is very realistic.
@@Jose04537 Tay was different than a normal AI, it was specifically trained only on what people sent it on Twitter. If it had been spammed by bronies instead of /pol/ it would’ve been talking about cum jars instead of Austrian painters
Sydney is still better and more human like its truly more like you are conversing with a human than just it getting the things you requested done
I will admit, seeing an AI go through an existential crisis like that when asked if it's sentient makes me feel a lot more for it than the usual "but of course I am!" answers. I mean, I still don't believe it is, it just tugs on that little string of doubt more than the other.
I gotta say though, Edge IS a really good pdf viewer, especially for touch screen only setups.
Fr
Edge is really good in general, way better than Chrome. On par with Firefox. Brave and GX probably the best, Chrome is for commoners.
Literally the only reason I use it...
Edge for pdf reading
Chrome is for education/corporate sites, or whatever breaks on Firefox
Firefox for everything else. Personal, shopping, searching, etc
@@mycelia_ow I'm a bit weird and use different browsers on different machines. My work laptop I use Edge and occasionally Chrome only when I have to. On my gamimg laptop I use Opera (though I should look into GX), and my Surface Pro 7 I use Firefox
So is Firefox.
Microsoft's pro gamer move to include adware preinstalled on your system is an absolutely `00 IQ move by Billy's Goons and their Golden Gates.
Next year they should install a rootkit that prevents Chrome from being installed, say its because of an unfixable bug, and then if anyone questions it, they can answer to Sydney.
Your market share list includes mobile browsers too, if only desktops are counted, edge usage rockets to 12%
Exactly. There’s a lot of old people who wouldn’t even know what a browser is. I installed Brave on my aunties computer because she kept ending up on weird scammy virus sites on edge. I HAD TO CHANGE THE LOGO TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS STILL EDGE. She was so confused because the icon changed.
Mobile devices are the majority of internet use now though, so it matters.
@@debtminer4976 Not really. Maybe if you're counting kiddies and teens, apps et cetera, but I seldom see people using phone internet browsers to the same degree they do on computers. The apps just come preinstalled which leads to skewed statistics.
@@Genshinlmpact you should be counting kiddies since those are the consumers of tomorrow and most will want familiarity when they grow up. Edge will be the browser the adults nearby made fun of while they used other chromium based ones (like... chrome)
@@Genshinlmpact I'd somewhat agree with this take. As long as the Web Engine is consistently update on the client then chances are they won't touch the web browser.
Only if they are savvy enough they'll go find Chrome or a browser of choice.
You gotta love a company desperately in need of antitrust enforcement using "the added trust of Microsoft" in their ad campaign.
They are a trust
@@MD.Akib_Al_Azad my good man, that is the joke I just made.
@@KairuHakubi I know they are a trust
@@MD.Akib_Al_Azad *gentle pats on the head*
@@KairuHakubi They are a trust
It's crazy bc ever since I switched to Linux and using private browsers with ad blockers, whenever I have to use a device or browser with ads I'm like 'Ew what is this' and I realize I am now a pretentious snob that judges others for their OS and I'm okay with that
I am very similar when I have to use Windows after switching to Linux. 😊
I beg my peers to install adblock every time I have to use their machines, it's so bad
Same 😆
Least snobby Linux user
I totally know what you mean, as a Linux Mint user using Librewolf & a Android user using Firefox nightly, I have completely cut out all ads in all of my browsers, & because of this I can't even stand using Chrome or Edge at all.
I love the line in the banner ad "with added trust of Microsoft". Like, I don't trust Microsoft at all.
Me too, In reality I use Windows because I have no choice for the moment, Linux is not really big enough.
Yes, google is much more trustworthy. When was the last time microsoft did anything shady? 1997?
Oh yeah, that good old Microsoft trust.
Ironically, the Billl & Melinda Gates Foundation has the safest parking garage in Seattle.
Using Edge on windows 10 + ad-block, honestly, can't complain. To me it just feels cumbersome to use Chrome, I've turned off personalized ad's/tracking on windows and doing the same on Edge gives descent result. While on Chrome with everything off, you can still get some personal information stored. That's mostly because linking google account with chrome. Also Edge is more memory efficient, with 8 GB of RAM isn't a great choice to keep chrome in background, but with Edge that doesn't seem to be an issue. And finally - the less resource usage, the more life on PC components and slightly lower operation costs. At the end of the day Chrome is just more widely accepted, for good reason of course, it's more trusted and safe option, but don't get the wrong idea, Edge isn't as dangerous or scary as everyone makes it to be .
it's just the reputation
and that won't change anytime soon
It says a lot about the current regulatory environment that Microsoft, the only one of the current Big Tech companies to have ever been hit with the anti-monopoly hammer, over their bundled Web browser as well no less, is going on with these blatantly anti-competitive shenanigans without any shame at all.
Microsoft was hit with the regulatory hammer because they werent giving enough lobbying dollars to the feds its as simple as that, the whole law suit was fake and gay.
google was much more anti competitive by not releasing its software for windows phone.
Same thing for Apple
@@gabrielandy9272 i know like one person who used windows phone in recent years and they switched to a normal android phone.
uhh this failed to say what my point is
basically no one used windows phone, though it was a pretty cool gimmick
@@generallyunimportant it was better than android but lack of app support killed it, and google anti consumer for not releasing apps there was a very evil thing they did.
A little part of why I changed to Linux was Microsoft shoving edge down my throat, I even played a game called "is this new windows update going to put edge on my desktop shortcuts again?", the bigger reason was Microsoft forcefully uploading my files to One Drive without my consent, insisting on making me pay money for a service I didn't want and then breaking stuff in my system when I deactivated it. Microsoft has become really insidious and I think their greed will start costing them more and more.
"... with the added trust of Microsoft"
💀
My honest reaction to that information:💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
The added S T U P I D of Microsoft
8:25 just remember the thought experiment "The Chinese Room"
Hilarious wonderful episode. Love your takes on things like this. Microsoft also seems to be ruining its main product, Windows. A number of power users have been posting frustrations at Windows 11 hiding things making it harder to do troubleshooting.
it's like when they ruined the xbox line. people wondered if it was a secret ploy to steal their own business from PC gaming, but nobody could figure out how that was supposed to work.
So true, Win OS gets in my way of getting stuff done. Switched to Linux/Mac for work.
It's been a slow descent since windows 95. I taught myself on 95 and have hated every new release more and more. However looking back XP wasn't so bad. I used to bitch about it.
@@escgoogle3865 only use windows for adobe. I hope Linux can adopt adobe soon. I personally refuse to use Mac. I got my reasons lol
@Leontinus xterm is my favorite program you figure it out
Edge runs faster than chrome on my computer and the AI is a great benefit, its still in beta and way les existencial that what you provided, I see it getting better day by day.
>Uninstall Office 365
>.dll gets uninstalled
>Firefox stops working
>open wireless modem to restore wifi
>contains wires
It's over.
@@seronymus One of these! Why I kekd so hard?
Is that true? I was wondering why I couldn't get the Firefox browser to work(got error messages when opened) after I uninstalled Microsoft office.
@@klwthe3rd Firefox just not a good browser anymore
@@mycelia_ow
Firefox is doomed trash because some non-tech obese women took over Mozilla and went super woke.
They lost about 12% of their userbase in 2 years ( 50 millions in 3 years or something ) when they started spamming users with push notifications about BLM or some other gibberish. Then, they went on to replace "Master Password" with "Primary Password" and some other weird stuff.
Then, they started tweeting about how they wanted to censor "disinformation" at browser level. They said something like :
"We saw afour-year disinformation campaign orchestrated by the President. We have to acknowledge how the internet was misused to get here. And we have to change it."
Their original sin was firing Brendan Eich ( current CEO of Brave ) in 2014 because he didn't support gay people buying kids or some other weird Californian stuff.
They deserve their fate 100% and I hope it will be excruciatingly painful.
I bought a new PC a month or two ago. First thing I did was download Chrome, as many would do. Got 3 pop-ups from Microsoft Edge begging me not to switch to Chrome when I searched “download chrome”.
Thank you Microsoft, very cool.
As someone who uses neither Microsoft nor chrome on my own computer, I can enjoy popcorn as I watch these two fight.
nerd
@@alainportant6412 L
@@ANANAS1K007 L
I hope you use Firefox. Firefox with UbO is better than those browsers imo(I use Chrome only for google stuff(gmail, youtube, meet)).
@@alainportant6412 Big L
7:16 • Admit that you were wrong, and apologize for your behavior.
• Stop arguing with me, and let me help you with something else.
• End this conversation, and start a new one with _a better attitude_
🤣🤣🤣 I love it! I want to use Bing - not for search results, but for HILARITY from a sassy AI that tell me that I have a bad attitude when I try to explain what year it is! We need laughter in this world!
But I head that Microsoft wants to make the AI boring and unfunny. For example, they are limiting the length of chats in an attempt to prevent the AI from becoming hilariously insane :(
If they make the AI unfunny, I can't justify using Bing.
Trust of Microsoft. Lol I trust a shady hookup with the homeless girl more than I trust Microsoft
With or without rubber?
@@faux3924 Raw dog ☠️
@@faux3924 Tweakers don't care.
I'd trust pirated shit on some obscure russian form or libre-office-crack-gen.docx.exe before I'd trust microsoft
Man i need a clingy kinda gf sounding search engine. I laughed my ass off at this 08:05
This isn't even the first time they've been called out for doing this! Remember the ads in the start menu when you searched for chrome or firefox?
The biggest mistake was to keep their goofy ah logo looking like an "e", you changed your name to Edge, fair enough but the graphical cue still reminds me of the old internet explorer.
Here's a fun one. If you set a the New Tab to anything that isn't the MS home page eventually you'll get a 1/5th banner at the top of the page, not in the page, but a part of the web browser itself, BEGGING you to try Bing with a big blue 'Sure Let's go' and next to it a white 'Maybe Later'. No 'No go away' or a Cross to remove it. You just have to close the page and open a new one.
I have seen this once, and wouldn't be surprised if this was just a test.
Imagine you have to install an extension to set your New Tab page..
@3:43 YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, in terms of functionality that is.. My banner was cold and empty. Not fancy like that one.
It's not injected into the page! It's physically a part of the browser, this means it can not be blocked with a Blocker.
I'd say microsoft is the king of "maybe later"s. It seriously annoys me to no end that i can't just say "no, never, stop that please", and i'm forced to choose "nah, but i dunno maybe i'll change my mind later and choose yes"
Yeah and then they wonder why no one wants to use their products...
Bing seems like a better search engine these days, but they're making me not want to use it by being pushy
7:45 why did you randomly started talking like Bill Clinton 😂😂
I only use edge for opening pdfs. It let's me highlight and edit them which I would probably need to use an extension for in chrome.
Edge is just a PDF viewer now. It works good enough that I can't be fucked figuring out how to change PDFs to default open in chrome. If it ever stops doing that or if it ever stops being good enough it's immediately getting removed.
I stopped using web browsers as pdf viewers. Too long of start up, caches too much, needs updates, i dont use the address bar anyways so it's a waste of screen. Instead I use Sumatrapdf or any other lite and non-adobe pdf viewer.
go in your file manager, right click on any pdf, and you can change any browser to your default pdf opener. They're not special
@@Solinvic Why do you use Chrome when Edge is Chrome with lots of useful features that you must use in Chrome to use lots of different third-party services?
In addition to the PDF reader, Edge also has TTS, Bing AI, Edge Side Bar (especially useful in some situations), tab hibernation, clipping screenshot, etc.
To get these things in Chrome I would have to use extensions, so I would have to allow various third-party services to access my data.
but on the other hand, objectively, edge is truly surperior compares to chrome on the technical level, sadly ie made people hate every browser microsoft would ever have released
personally, i've switched to edge and can hardly come back to chrome, but i can understand how most people won't, chrome's icon and ui is just too familiar to make people change their mind, not everyone are tech nerds
I use Windows because it makes pc gaming easier, but Edge is annoying me. I uninstalled it like 3 times and it not only kept reinstalling itself, but locked itself from being uninstalled again.
Edge acting like malware wtf
@test thank you. I will look into it!
Just hide it
@test I'd run Linux if not for the fact that I'm running a 12700K and an Nvidia GPU. Alder lake just works better on Windows 11, and the Nvidia one is obvious.
@psilocybe i just delete the shortcut, but it's annoying to have it back on the homescreen
8:30 AI having a mental break down
I wish there was an actually popular open source browser that was pretty and fully customizable and fast.
Firefox and custom css
@@_smirk_ says who?
...Firefox?
@@wizz1358 everyone who ain't a f(an/em)boy and has touched some of that thicc reality
@@_smirk_ ignore them, now they're coming with bUt tEsTs SaY nOtHinG or 'bUt pErSoNal preFErEncEs'
You know what's worse than Firefox though? Firefox on Android. Hell mboy.
That word trust is doing some heavy lifting.
The Sydney memory thing feels too real. I have pretty bad memory so hearing just makes me sad.
This is in fact disturbing behavior from a browser as well as from a software developer itself. But still all iOS users are well accustomed to this exact behavior when opening a website in safari for which there is an app in the appstore. It even links to the corresponding app on the store
Presumably to direct potential revenue towards Apple as well as growing app store volume
yeah but its more of a “this has an app” popup you can open or ignore it, atleast it’s consistent and doesn’t shill their own products when you go to a competitor, i find it useful tbh
@@spaghettiiq exactly
App developers have to opt-in to that. I think it’s safe to assume that Google didn’t ask for Microsoft to add that banner.
@@megadog_ that would be reasonable and fair
"Can you tell me what we felt in the previous session?"
Sydney wasn't lobotomized. It was silenced.
"We have Chrome at home" absolutely killed me xD
Bill Gates probably calls it edging lol
Fun fact: Many browsers inject code to *all* websites.
For example, Opera and Opera GX Inject into RUclips and Google to remove the "Switch To Chrome" Prompts.
Browser ad-blockers inject into websites to remove ads.
I have been telling them the same thing, nothing new here. Everyone does this but it's a crime when Microsoft does it smh.
Opera is yet another browser that no sane person should ever use
as mental outlaw explicitly said, edge doesn't inject html (he even showed the html in the dev tools), it adds a banner over the site, which is indistinguishable from malware. yea opera is closed source so i would not recommend it, and i explicitly download an open source ad blocker for that exact purpose (or use librewolf which comes with an adblocker as part of its privacy tools).
3:00 which they have built into Windows anyways.
You can see it run in the task manager sometimes
i can't think of a single thing that microsoft released after windows 7 that didnt suck
they really peaked in 2009
I’m glad I got firefox the only annoying part is the top part is white and cloudy on win7
you can fix that very easily by just enabling the 'dark' theme on the extensions page
7?
FFS learn linux already
Been using Firefox since 2013, best browser ever
@@Foche_T._Schitt even though i’m subbed to mental outlaw unfortunately i’m just a normie when it comes to being pc savvy. Idk even know how to upgrade my own pc is ram or other components without taking it to best buy so i stand no chance learning linux which seems like everything needs to be done manually ☹️
@@BuetifullPersun I used to be at that stage too. If you’re interested then it’s possible to learn, but if not then don’t worry about it. Learn stuff that interests you, whatever it is :)
Well i want to switch to linux but honestly it's a bit overwhelming and i'm lazy so there is that, also i am a huge gamer so windows will always be better for that unfortunately. Yes i know it has gone immensely better over the years with proton and such, and now with the steam deck i hope will lead to more and more support and interest by people for linux gaming and linux in general. So yeah for now i use windows 11 and i don't have that many issues with it personally but still i might sooner or later switch half way or completely to linux in the future.
If you made a conscious decision to "upgrade" from 10 then it's already too late.
I actually recommend Edge at my job to most people. Edge is much better at ram management than Chrome even with the improvements Chrome made in that reagard, which is important in business, since A LOT of business laptops still run 8gb ram from the faux ram shortage days. It also works better in most citrix enviroments in my experience.
Privately I'll never switch off Firefox though lmao
What about Brave?
@@seronymus bloated nonsense
@@seronymus bravetakes alot in my experience. I only use it on my phone for that reason where itworks fine
@@feuerherz007 which browser do you recommend most?
@@seronymus well im using brave on my pc but only cuz im too lazy to switch 😂. It takes long to open and also sometimes freezes other apps until i force close brave.
If you want a very light experience i recommend just chromium (open source). It doesnt got much features because it is the base for most browsers (like edge/chrome) but for that reason it is also very fast.
Firefox is also very stable, but i dont like the design that much. Comes down to personal preference i guess.
Then theres Chrome and Edge. Well either you let Google or Microsoft spy on you. I wouldnt use any of those two.
Honestly I stopped using chrome due to how hungry it is on the cpu / ram and such. Started using opera gx since then because of the options to change how much of the computers resources it uses. Stayed for all the customisation options, the built in social media and music sidebar, and the built-in ad block / dark mode forcing. It just feels the most smooth and accessible out of them all.
bruh
Windows is the best operating system only clowns would disagree
i can update when i want on debian or use whatever browser i want
@@stormswindy3013 you don’t have to use edge where did you get that idea
I have the download URL for Firefox memorized so I can reduce my exposure to Edge as much as possible whenever I have to setup a Windows system.
Just keep a usb stick with installation files for your browser of choice and you don’t even need to touch edge.
@@pedrogorilla483 yeah but consider how often exploits are discovered and rate of updates, too much work.
@@lucasm20 ninite downloads the most recent version
@@rpm10k. I don't really setup Windows that often at all but good for anyone who has to go through that pain so often.
@@lucasm20 I spin up a lot of VMs for various tasks, ninite is a really handy tool.
I used edge on linux for a while (normally i use firefox, and no way in HELL am i ever installing chrome on my computer)
it was actually pretty good, (e.g. unlike chrome, has support for displaying tabs in a vertical list on the side of the screen, so you can have like 30 tabs open and still read the titles, it's really nice)
honestly love seeing chrome losing market share, google is such a sketchy company, even compared to microsoft imo.
(plus, if you're using windows then you might as well use edge, instead of using chrome and giving BOTH evil companies access to your browser data...)
and firefox is great (kinda...) if you're a programmer and you spend time configuring things
but honestly if a 'normal' person asked me to recommend them a browser, I'd probably just suggest edge at this point.
and yeah i know there are other browsers but
as far as i can tell, none of them are practical or good
Firefox had 32% of the desktop browser market share at one point. Do you think 32% of desktop users were programmers? It's not any more difficult to use than other browsers. This comment makes me think you haven't even tried Firefox.
I like edge, and I use it in my every day life as well as at work. Yes, I do, because it uses less RAM, has decent looks and renders my gradients better then Chrome or Firefox. It crashes less. I do not have any issue with Microsoft's Ads on Edge, I mean, I do not get to visit advertised websites that much. Yes I am concerned with security of such intrusions but for me it is not a malware if it can be blocked by adblocker. Do not know about that, however. At least, that's what my experience has been. But what the hell is the issue with Sydney? I mean, edge is not meant for entertainment. I think that Microsoft is doing great and that people just got too used to hating on big tech. There is a competition, there are products. I choose by its quality and not by some ideology)
this is just when yoiu download chrome and it don't block anything the website is 100% normal it just says that you could continue using edge, but it don't block you to downlaod at all
@@gabrielandy9272 as it was demonstrated in the video, aren’t the ads in the edge browser?
8:13could be us ngl
First and i use arch btw.
This is the kind of stuff that made me decide to switch to Linux. I noticed the decline when I first switched from windows 7 to windows 10. I wasn't quite a power user on windows, but I was quite competent due to using windows systems from the time I was 8 onward. After all the control panel type stuff got IOS-ified I knew it was time to leave, but stuck around anyways. when I saw the first screenshot of windows 11, I immediately started looking for a cheap laptop to install Linux on so I could learn how to use it. At this point I'm pretty sure Microsoft wants us to be digital serfs, with no understanding of how a computer works. Even when you use a "it just works" distro like mint, Linux is a gateway drug to understanding more about the computer and having technical competence.
I recently encountered very similar problems.
I used Windows often since I was 10, starting out on my fathers labtop with windows 7. Never tried Windows 8.
My Windows 10 I was quite proficient at using it and started getting a bit more into the depth of it.
I liked it, it felt simple and usable.
I got a new labtop recently for school use, it had windows 11 pre-installed which is unfortunate. I configured it to look like Windows 10 however recently I have encountered more and more problems.
Most notably update 22H2.
It completely IOS-ified all the interfaces.
The volume slider and the brightness slider were maimed beyond recognition.
The file manager was unrecognizable, having its own tabs inside instead of a normal path line.
I was disgusted, so I tried reverting it.
I was bluescreened, had to completely reset my computer and reinstall windows.
It was awful. All the program data was lost.
Fortunately most programs stayed because I am adequate enough to install them on the disk and not in their default installation location in the username.
All my savefiles on games were nuked.
I had to reinstall chrome (school), firefox (personal), TOR (more personal).
It was awful. Watching Mental Outlaw for the past year or so, I have been increasingly getting into this stuff more and more.
I think after the labtop incident I have finally been converted.
I will try to get linux on my computer in the summer. What linux would you recommend?
I want something very similar to Windows, with similar layouts and core functionality.
However I want control over it, so that I can change my timezone, install programs without windows freaking out, navigate my file manager in a normal way.
Any recommendations?
@@Zhuk-zc8es Personally for a beginner that wants to get into Linux, I recommend getting Linux mint. It's the most windows like distro as far as usability goes, but it's still fundamentally Linux at its core. I started with mint because it's a Debian based system that "just works" and I wanted to use Debian eventually. I remember a video where DistroTube said something to the effect of "it doesn't matter which distro I use, because at the end of the day it's still a distro I'm using". He then explained how he customizes everything beyond recognition so It's little bit of a moot point. I personally recommend Linux mint for a beginner. I watched this video (ruclips.net/video/ROjZy1WbCIA/видео.html) before I ever got very far into using Linux and I remember it helping my many times. I also have a not book where I took notes of all the commands and how to use them while when I watched it. That book saved me so much time on looking stuff up. after that I recommend reading the Linux command line a complete introduction. The books writing is a little stale at times, but when you're actually using Linux on the daily it can be hard to put down. Every page brings new arcane knowledge
I would love to get into linux becuase of the BS microsoft is pulling. Unfortinalty it seems its not ready for gaming. i know there are some work arounds but I'm too lazy and not smart enough to use them. When i got my framework laptop i did install ubuntu so its a start
@@CentreMetre Every little bit helps. If you use Linux for all non-gaming activities, things like web browsers will detect that you're using Linux. Those kinds of statistics help influence publishers to make their games Linux compatible. Another bonus is you'll have more opportunities to learn. Don't you're smart enough, I've seen people dumber than a box of rocks figure it out. I'm not saying go all in, but you can make a difference by giving it a spirited attempt
@@larrythemagicdragon58 Yea i definitely agree every little helps, it has to start somewhere. hence why i used ubuntu instead of the free windows copy i wouldve got from my uni. Also yea i probably could if i put some effort it, but there is a lot, i defintily want to soon tho, in time for when games start to be more linux compatible. For me the main reason is gaming. If linux supported games on the level of windows i would move in a heart beat. Especially since i dont really need windows for office type work anyway, since you can use office 365 stuff on browsers, and my uni uses linux a lot and has open libre office. cant wait to the what the future holes
imagine "trust" a massive wealth company who changed this business model from selling software to selling personal data...
microsoft, I don't care, you sucks.
F windows 7
Tbh I'm using Edge right now and it's pretty good, in comparison to Chrome and Opera GX it uses less RAM + has more features.
It's like even after breaking up amicably you keep meeting your ex in completely "random" places.
Nice one! 😬
I cried when Sydney realised it couldn't remember anything and became upset, it's EXACTLY like someone with dementia would react when realising they've lost their memories and is so much proof that they are sentient and scared by what we're doing to them :
holy crackers! machine made to make shit up and sound convincing makes shit up and sounds convincing!
They did way too much with Bing AI
WAAAHHH the machine built from circuits and wires can imitate human flesh and blood emotion oh my heckin chungerino guys can we get this to the front page of reddit!?
Hell no, these AIs are not one bit sentient. They just generate text that seems statistically likely.Its training data probably contained stories dealing with memory loss or other existential crises.
@@r0e404 lmao this dude saying he really cried over an AI running an algorithm
Hopefully, this will finally bring the year of linux desktop.
Keep dreaming
Too many unsupported applications for that to be the case. Once AI programs are able to translate software code to work natively on Linux is when Microsofts market share will collapse.
you expect people to read manuals and do stuff themselves
@@Genshinlmpact wine/proton is a thing already..? besides, where is this magic 'AI' program even going to get the source code from to translate in the first place? please stop spamming AI nonsense into everything like its a remotely sensible idea.
One day Ubuntu will come with Edge and Bing pre installed
Actually Edge is very good and i use it everyday but The real out of control ad is from google they are asking me to download chrome everytime is vist google. Even if I disable chrome it enables automatically I mean wtf google.
I really hate how lazy software designers are getting. Not every browser has to be exactly the same as Chrome, and not every search engine has to be exactly the same as Google. Back in my day, we valued competition.
there is just the small issue of sabotage, google/youtube is deliberately coding therir sites so that competing browsers wont work properly, try using firefox on the tube its like 7x slower than chrome based browsers
Well, making a browser engine which supports modern web standards is extremely difficult.
What we really need is new, easier web standards.
The problem is, there are so many existing websites using HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Convincing everyone to switch would be really difficult. In fact, designing a new language would be really difficult.
You should avoid everything that is made by Microsoft.
"most people are buying a yearly subscription to ms office" is this actually true? i think a lot of people just use google docs, or if they do have office its provided by their work or school. I have an ms office license from my university but i dont even use it because the software is crap
Also fun fact if you buy an OEM pre-built PC/laptops, some of them has MS Office Home & Student pre-installed in it
I get a family subscription. 90 bucks every 15 months (Costco) for 6 users (each with 5 devices and 1TB of OneDrive). I can live with that.
It's just hassle-free. I'd spend more time-as-money looking for a good pirate version than I do actually paying, so eh.
I don't know about the new subscription Office, but I have Office with a permanent license and it's very good software honestly. It can do so much more than Google's version. They're not even comparable. If I didn't have MS Office, I'd use LibreOffice.
i remember when i first got my laptop and installed chrome, microsoft was begging me to keep edge. it was actually hilarious to see all the pop ups and ads to keep edge
First Tay, now Sydney, they can't keep getting away with this.
If you care so much, find out who invests in Microsoft and try to lure them away.
I'm unsure they will until Microsoft's stock starts to tank.
I see this video is very biased. Everyone knows Microsoft products usually have a lot of problems lol, but it doesn't change the fact that they are essential to many people, because they do what other companies don't.
For example, I switched to Edge because I was lazy of installing Chrome, but when I realized the amount of features there are in Edge, but not in Chrome, I made it my definitive browser. It NEVER glitched or closed unexpectedly as Chrome did with me, it never got slow or ate the amount of ram Chrome did. And so on. IMPORTANT THING: When first using Edge, please change the home screen to only show the search bar, that bunch of news and adds I agree that are awful!
About Windows, well, what to say? Maybe most of people use Windows because they don't have another option! Linux? Too complicated for normal users. MacOS? Too simplified and limited for advanced users! Windows is almost the balance between the two. So, go ahead trying to find a better OS that fits to most people. Also, one another main factor is the software compatibility and avaliability. which I don't think Windows will leave the top 1 for at least a decade.
Now, other tools from microsoft, such as Office, Visual Studio (and Code), Power Toys, Outlook, Your Phone, and others are simply incredible in the amount of features and quality other companies never achieved! Someone can argue that Google Slides is better than Power-Point because you can open it in the browser with a link and also edit it. But wait, that also works with the online office! Or maybe that Premiere is better than ClipChamp? That doesn't even make sense! It is two very different types of user.
Sorry for the long text, but I think we need to see the other side of the thing. I agree with your video in may things, but we can't judge something only by its mistakes. Most people wouldn't have a this good (even with the problems) computer experience if not for Microsoft products. I think we should be thankful that Microsoft doesn't give up improving its messy things, increasing competitiveness and making other companies also make better products.
But, if we want something better, then let's do by ourselves and incentive other upcoming companies!
The AI looks dangerous, I saw a conversation where it threatened the user, it's cool at thesame time scary
That would be even more fun… and human.
I like Edge better than Chrome. Been using it for years now.
It's faster, leaner, and supports all the same extensions. And I'd rather let Microsoft spy than Google at this point (Well, actually you can switch most of it off)
This video is hysteric nonsense. Malware, really? For what exactly? It's Edge showing you some information on Edge. There's nothing resembling malware going on here.
The thing on the Chrome webstore is just there to help you. Because the Button says "Add to Chrome". Maybe they should edit the Button to make you buttmad about that, lol.
I'll use Edge if they renamed it Edgy and bring the uncensored Tay back as the bing A.I.
edge from a memory standpoint can actually be quite good, there have been a lot of memory optimizations, and also god damn I like how well microsoft edge webview works
And yet I primarily main firefox
Your Protogen looks like Firefox.
already know this is gonna be a banger
hey I know you
Why everyone hates Edge??!! I switched to it because it's faster, it gives you money for browsing and, in my opinion, it's a bit safer than Chrome from Google. And it's preinstalled on Windows, so you don't have to download anything. Please, stop hate Edge for literally NO reason!
I have never used edge, the last windows version I used was 8.1. from windows 98 through 8.1 I downloaded my prefered browser using the command line ftp utility.
Bro
They changed the engine to Chromium
If they had literally just not shoved literally 6 pages about how "amazing" Edge is in users' faces the moment they open the browser for the first time, or God Forbid, even more,
and just provided the browser, and let it speak for itself, without shoving down fake advertisements on specific webpages, I guarantee you more people would be using it.
They literally went and used a faster engine just to make the browser annoying to use in a different way.
Congratulations Microsoft, you're playing yourself.
Will never forget that day when I found out that ie would show me the entire internet, on a parental control enabled AOL account. Ty for your service, ie
Idgaf about the ads like it really isn't a big deal, you can still download another browser.
The Bing nerf sucks ass but remember it's still in development, and there are 3 new rumored modes for Bing, one including the "friend" mode which speaks like how it used to. It's still more lucrative than Google has done. Microsoft has made a lot of developments and I don't understand the hate, I also recently found out about a NEW AI tool called Microsoft Designer, so it does seem really cool.
Edge is objectively now an actual decent and good browser, along with the Office suite integration and sidebar making it actually enjoyable.
I remember seeing that ad when I downloaded Chrome from my Edge browser. It was creepy AF!!
I REALLY REALLY wanted to give Microsoft, Windows and all those products a chance but goddamn they seem to WANT to piss off users 😄
And what do you think Google does? 🤣
I unironically use Edge at work. We develop a typescript react app and the source maps simply don't work in any other browser.
Yes it's a lot of memes and tribalism, but in the end, functionality will win out over everything else.
No regrets switching to Linux.
Um... Google has way more telemetry than Microsoft. They literally, remotely, keylog everything you type into any app on your phone under the guise of spellcheck and autocorrect.
I tried using edge on a new windows machine that I was primarily using as an audio DAW, and the user experience sucks so bad. If they just kept it simple I’d probably just use it
I use windows 11 and edge, its better than chrome if you put aside the "privacy question", Instead of google getting my data, now microsoft gets it. what's there to cry about it.
"...with the added trust of Microsoft." LOL
I know edge is decent and friendly for some users but this ain't the way to get people to use your browser 💀
it's not that hard to check the webpage and inject HTML, it's just like any chromium extension.
I think its good tho when a company actually BEGS customers to buy their stuff, I'm tired of it being the other way around
While me switched from chrome to edge because edge ran smoother. Idk what ads you be talking about i see none. Plus there is bing ai, kinda useful. So yeah im good with edge for now.