SimpleX Chat - Next Level Private Messaging
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In this video I explain the features of SimpleX Chat and how it provides better communication privacy than most other available products.
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I don't have this problem because I have no friends. Checkmate feds.
preach
wrong, now I'm your friend, whether you like it or not!
If you are not influential you can think whatever you want
$100,000 mission from the CIA incoming
based
I'll just keep using my carrier pigeons
Nsa has carrier pigeons capture and return centers
I have been saying this for years.. Birds are obviously glowie spy drones, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
They’ve been compromised
hangin outside your window with a peregrine falcon:
They are government drones.
Bro, just use pagers, what can go wrong?
Mossad? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hold on let me ask diddy
just make sure to check for explosives after every purchased pager.
@@loukas3108 Don't be a terrie and you won't have to worry. They only intercepted Pagers purchased by the terries in bulk, but I do believe some of those might have made it into innocent hands I blame the terries not the bad as spies who pulled off an amazing logistical operation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 explosion 💥
welcome back to todays episode of "Is it a honeypot"!!!
i’d think this if it wasn’t open source
@@elijahjflowers it doesnt matter if its open source? ur acting as if they cant put the honeypot just because they open sourced it lol
@@elijahjflowers open source only means something if you can effectively read/understand the source code and compile your own binary from it yourself.
@@ValipPowa “ur acting as if they cant put the honeypot”
what?
put it in github repo?; that can be cloned and personally used amongst private companies/circles/and networks?
@@ValipPowa no they literally cant
How long until the app starts glowing?
2 years tops..
Glowing haha, its as soon as it moved to production 😂
Lol, ain't that the truth 😂
Probably glowing already
@@ashishpatel350 Bro do you have a group on simplex chat
It's already supernove.
nice try fed, but communication with my buddies is already maximum encrypted by being inside of my head
Have you heard of rubber hose cryptanalysis before?
@@Spessman Rubbe hsoe cryptanalysis was my slave name.
They're literally developing ways to tap into that too. Brain imaging to produce actual scans of what people are thinking, and it's not totally ineffective. Of course, for now, no one is going to do it without your knowledge, because you have to be hooked up to a machine
@@J31neuralink
They already monitor inside my head, nothing is private anymore
I self host my own Matrix server to chat with myself on desktop and mobile, since I have no friends.
Nobody does don't feel bad. XD Most people that think they have a bunch of friends have a bunch of narcs around them that are just waiting under the wing for them to fu** up...
@@xbabu142x I do this with one other fren. No outside connectivity. He blocks it
@@VioFax We get you're a looser, no need to be so loud about it
Me and the homies use astral projection to communicate through the spirit realm
Don't worry they are working on a glow-stick for that too.
No the feds started experimenting with astral projection in the cold war, bit late to it guys
@@VioFaxThey already have remote viewing
They have shamans for evesdropping
@@Kawka1122 gateway process moment
Least obvious fed honey pot
Its FOSS
3:15 jokes on them. My sleep schedule is so chaotic that I don't think anyone could link it to a timezone
Nah I’ll just keep using my plants as friends I guess
😂
Plants can wither tho
I’ll keep using food
Based and druidpilled
Theyll start putting chips in the clay-pots soon, mark my words.
if its on the app store on a smartphone I have a feeling there's gotta be a catch lol
don't worry, when big tech would notice it they find a reason to remove it
anything on the app stores has a backdoor for apple/google/microsoft
@@mike4402That’s BS, especially if the app communicates with a 3rd party server. Also, define “backdoor”, they can see https requests leaving the app? That’s a trust issue with the OS then.
dont get it there
@@mike4402source?
is it just me or has the govermnet stopped complaining about Whatsapp being encrypted?Almost like it's been backed doored
Fr
Now it's the EU that wants a backdoor to check for child porn. I think only Germany and Italy block a new law at this point.
yeah,most messaging apps have been backdoored by the feds
It’s owned by Facebook take a guess
They store your messages on the cloud so yes it's 100% backdoored, now they give the illusion of privacy.
At this point just use HAM radio, don’t rely on your ISP.
Reticulum.
@@TheOisannNetworkthis.
HAM can be triangulated! The laws of physics are gonna dox you!
meshtastic
@@TheOisannNetworkthis
Also ham radio coms is not encrypted,
I hope privacy goes mainstream
the more governments encroach on it the more it will
You have no idea how unbelievably bad it is.
Let me word it differently: I hope privacy gets important for more and more people.
Agreed, especially with client side scanning being pushed more and more. Mass adoption for regular people is a big hurdle, though.
never. Its impossible bro
Please keep us updated in case this is a honeypot, if not it looks dope!
I'd take any claims of any privacy on any app with any device with a grain of salt... None of this stuff is private. If it ever was? It never STAYS that way.
its not a honeypot bro wtf u can literally check out the source code + they are decentralized and do not actually store the msgs on a remote server
To anyone reading this, yes they are inside of your walls
what's the name of the messaging app comparison site?
Wanna know too!
messenger-matrix by kuketz
he should really publish sources of what he shows in video description but rarely does
@@Luclecool123 yeah that pisses me off as well, I looked for the site and could not find it. I am checking the comments again but most of them are useless comments.
The unspoken rule: If Mental Outlaw made a video about it, it's already over.
real
obscurity ≠ security
@@professoropsec fr
Next week: pdf files and crypto criminals are using to do crimes.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
They already are
who cares.
This is the dumbest reason to prevent people from using private apps.
Inb4 😂
They tell you that they love children, then they drop bombs on them. In fact, they only love power and control.
that ONE THING i am jealous of with the americans, is the burner phones. Here in mf europe, every single phone number must be registered officially
Burner phones don't exist.
Quit being delulu
@@notafbihoneypot8487Yeah which is why most slang was invented to prevent self snitching over the phone.
oh, burner phones do exist, buy a phone with removable battery, used or new with cash, get a free Lyca Mobile SIM or somesuch, put it in, pay a kid to get you a xx minutes/hours code from a shop with cash. put battery in, activate SIM, enter code, use phone outside of your dwellings/usual area of business, remove battery, do that for a week, burn phone but keep battery. you have, iirc, 15 or 30 days to send the MVMO the paperwork along with your id. that's how many _enterprising youngsters_ do it in France at least. 😅
lots of other ways to do it too, including in prison... 😏👆
Not in Holland. They probably wont need registration there , they already know who you are 🤣🤣🤣
Bro how do gypsies get them then 🤔
Glows in the dark
Can you explain to an ignorant person what this means. I tried searching for the reference but found nothing helpful.
@@utubepunkglowies
@@utubepunk People call FBI, CIA, or NSA agents "glowies" because it’s a joke about how obvious or out-of-place they seem in certain online communities. The idea is that they’re so easy to spot, it’s like they "glow in the dark" when they try to blend in. It's mostly used in a mocking way to point out when someone seems like they're trying too hard to be undercover or manipulate a conversation. When people say the app "glows in the dark" they mean they think the app is government controlled or backdoored.
@@utubepunkTerry Davis once said: “The CIA n*****s glow in the dark”. Basically meaning they stand out from the norm, so when they say it glows in the dark they mean it seems like it’s a honeypot or it’s related to the feds in some type of way. Hope this helped. 👍
@@user-se5xg3vz8p I found it when something mentioned Terry Davis. It's a very soy, distasteful term.
Surely this one will be different riiiight? Come on man get used to it. The game was rigged from the start, and we haven't been playing, we've been played
bro thinks hes a criminal mastermind
@@xx_pcgamer_xx6866 I'm actually a master at baiting, some call me a master baiter
What's the link to that chart at 13:21 ?
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other reply got blocked, just google for: messenger matrix
i found it by googling the row titles in quotes, remember that for next time
Carrier pigeon gang where we at???
Loved the sexy FBI agent part
Citizen-kun. 😂
real bro😂 anyone know the sauce?
Anyone who randomly sends me a friend request xD
Simple-X
or
Sim-Plex (get it... a play on unidirectional communications)
Or simplex because this shit is more of a virus than herpes
Written in Haskell. Yea I’m thinking honeypot. Good luck finding that back door. Edit: can’t confirm claims of him being Israeli.
100% unit 8200 hunnypot
I found nothing about israel in relation to the main guy... though a lot of long reddit posts
@@ADVscout I looked into the claim. Should’ve done my own research. I can’t find anything to confirm other than him being Russian.
@@saymehnamethis is half the problem. You all think everything is glow so we get no progress (that said, is this glow? Probably)
sometimes i think i should never left the irc
It's not to late to go back, I think. I still keep seeing IRC stuff around.
Hey, can we get a deep dive review of the source code to see if anything is fishy? I'm kinda curious.
Love SimpleX. Would use it over signal on my phone but it uses an extreme amount of battery on grapheneOS (>50%)
Used it for a while but I didn't want to sacrifice all my battery.
Alice going down the tech rabbit hole and catfishing FBI-chan.
~ 12:30 Mass adoption is the biggest hurdle to more private messaging apps and is the elephant in the room. Besides funding, of course.
If the weakest link is (normies who use social media with minimal protection), then the chance of them using such as SimpleX chat, is slim to none, practically speaking.
Niche solutions are difficult to scale hence why risk triage is going to be on the privacy minded.
I have SimpleX and Session, and Signal. No one I know uses the first two and very few the last.
Can you kindly share the website mentioned in 13:30..
messenger-matrix by Kuketz-Blog
"Rise up gaymers must."
-Yoda
If the group chats had more features similar to Discord this would probably take off.
A lot of Alice profiles appeared since you dropped this video
it sounds like a fantastic service but you just kinda know its gonna fail...
I have tried her for about 7 months. It's a very promising app, but it still needs a lot of improvements and additions. Also notifications don't work properly on android if the app is minimized
Was having similar problems on android. Even with a tab open it wouldn't update notifications, messages wouldn't appear until I sent one , then I started getting 2 day old messages randomly. All in the last 2-3 months.
@@jamesbridges7750 Yes indeed, the same has happened to me. I don't use it as my main messaging app because it crashes all the time. I use Threema as my main app and Session for some other things.
My carrier pigeon's carrier pigeon buys his burner phone with cash
Notification gang here
Recommendations are crazy good
Once again hoping you will take a peek at veilid chat. Those guys are doing great work. Eventually you will I believe.
Mental Outlaw what's your opinion on Better Call Saul?
Waltah. Remember OPSEC Waltah
Hey, I just use a burner phone and....OOOW!! The darned thing burned me!
But OK, let's see...
Homemade pharmaceuticals? Chats on high energy materials? PDFs on hacking the NSA?
Nothing of interest in my online activity....
A big problem with a lot of these privacy focused chat apps is cross-platform syncing capability. Unfortunately. SimpleX doesn't do too well in that regard. It's usual to expect a sacrifice in usability with most privacy focused apps and until that changes, I don't think any of these apps will gain significant usage.
8 FBI agents left dislikes on this video 😂
feds cant get me if I have no friends
Everybody that I see with "friends" have a lot of problems and drama that goes with...
I was wondering when you'd make a vid on SimpleX. Awesome
me and the boys using a minecraft server that has a plugin enters an ai agent to different minecraft servers and recieve messages encrypted. So they have a minecraft plugin that converts their current chunk into message real time. Good luck feds. We can also add extra layers by adding roblox, embedding message into discord hentai generator bot and some obscure games to the pipeline :V
This hurts because I don't have any friends/someone to talk online.
Also, how does this app make money to run servers?
Probably user hosted ones like other services
> Also, how does this app make money to run servers?
Donations, VC funding.
@@haquire and user hosted servers
The fact you can choose the server you want is odd... if it was random I think would be better.
2:50 oof, dude punched holes into the leather underneath
I downloaded the app and gave it a go. I found that the disappearing message has a design flaw.
When someone replies to a disappearing message with a long standing message, the deleted one will still appear as the "replied to". The same thing applied to the directly deleted message.
This happens in Signal when you delete a message someone has replied to, atleast for me in the standard chat option, haven’t tried to see if it happens in the “disappearing messages” option….
Disappearing messages really are not a private feature, especially on a product like SimpleX where the data is stored locally, not on the server. You could simply modify the program to stop the disappearing.
Lets not forget a critical detail here. Keyboards use auto prediction and send "diagnostic data" and other data for learning your behavior over to other servers. So anything you type in most keyboard apps are likely just collecting and storing everything you type.
The problem: the feds won't leave us alone
Solution: use pagers, an idea with the best of intentions what could possibly go wrong.
It will blow up into pieces 💀
Signal requiring phone number was a dealbreaker to me
Edit: reading thier site it seems you need to a number to sigh up, then you can hide it from people and optionally make searching for you by phone number not possible. Nothing about removing phone number from account or registering without one so still a no
I never understood how it can be privacy or anon based and yet need ur phone number lol
same
@@phantomtr1 Because they don't retain any other significant data, so the only info you're potentially exposing is that you've used the app and the most recent time you sent a message.
@@robertwright8844 which is already a potential problem, considering that your position is more or less always known through phone cells. Knowing my location, it becomes CRUCIAL to be able to hide the time of my messages.
@@robertwright8844 thats more than enough to link you 3 times over with our current legal systems
Yeah, don't compare the privacy to Briar, a real serverless solution.
Love the vid thanks for sharing ☺️
Mental Outlaw showing us his glow.
I would say about sharing the same identity across multiple devices and it's limitations
15:19 where can i find this list?
SESSION is a good compromise. Signal is definitely a gov op. Another thing, when they say "open source", so it is safe, all that means is the code that has been audited is safe and all that. But you don't know what code is running on the server.
Some messaging apps are also open source on the server side.
You can host your own server with simplex
Finally! My daily dose of anti glowy Mental Outlaw stuff.
0,0 this channel and comment section is honey pot, i feel like some fed-chan checking my backyard.
btw you can verify profiles of your chats by QR code and even add note under their profile, for example if your mom cant remember all of the fake profiles of her contacts, she can just write a simple note like agent 1 agent 2 etc...
A web version is a must
Mr outlaw! Could you please do a video on the latest stuff that came out about the Godot engine? And the fork of it called REDOT? It would be awesome to give them some traction for their fork of the open source engine.
I don't really need a "private" one. I just want a good one. And whats out there is not good sadly.
simplex and session its good
I think there's a contradiction between wanting normal topics of conversation on the service and good opsec, so you'd have to convince normies to start using the service too. HTTPS had obvious utility for innocent-but-private communications like online banking, and torrenting saw some legitimate use for cheaply distributing large files like freeware ISOs, but I think the average person is willing to accept less secure services with larger preinstalled networks for something like chat or instant messaging.
Which is why I'm happy the IETF keeps improving HTTPS, even if it's extremely slow.
Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜
no shot this isnt a honeypot
I believe this is open source
Im pretty excited for this@
The boss posted again
This is a cool find I'm looking to make an app like this I have some ideas for security in this checked off almost all the boxes so pretty cool fine thanks for doing what you do here
2:20 you have a DIFFERENT session id in groups that people can not add you on unless you enable it and the group your in enables it.
but i like simplex more. way more stable.
Surveillance Clips (AKA Techlore)- SimpleX: Privacy-Focused Messenger Evolves
Nah I will just stick with session app
why?
Yeah uuh... I'll just keep using my smoke signals 💨
are those encrypted?
@@jlco oh shit 💀
Last
Just set up your own chat server on a Synology with cloud tunneling, encrypt the chat channel and use a VPN. Problem solved
You should talk about how Google shoehorned Gemini into Android's messaging app. It's dumb and no one even asked for it, not to mention that it will store your data for THREE whole years.
I bet Elon will try to buy this
@@Doran_Krotan Google wouldn't sell this cash cow if God descended from the Heavens and ordered them to. They'd sooner raise the Antichrist than sell RUclips to the Muskito.
definitely a honeypot
You lost me at leatherworking. Shit's beautiful.
Why is this 16min?
Could have been under 5min
it's bout 8 mins at 2x speed
Glowies seething.
While I do welcome a new, potentially safer alternative, I'll be sticking to already in use solutions like Matrix and Session. More and more it seems like inventing the cool new solution isn't the answer. Tor, nym, i2p, encryption will be broken and weaknesses will be found. It is impossible to avoid the botnet if someone's looking for you.
Sorry glowies, I'm not awake at the same time functional members of society are in my time zone
The thing is, how do you get knitting groups when nobody who is into knitting cares if someone knows that they like knitting? You can't get people to act as camouflage unless the app makes itself more marketable to the average privacy indifferent/ignorant user than the competition.
Unfortunate name! That's the medical term for Herpes in the UK
I dont understand how on eart an app that claims to be privacy orientated would even think of requiring a phone number for registration (I am looking at you Telegram and Signal)
No realy please tell me
To help prevent spam
I don't think Signal does anymore
I think the reason is simple: to prevent spam and because we didn't yet know how to build these things properly.
Signal's open source libraries really helped create a better E2E experience that newer apps learned from.
I swear to god you sound like JAMARI im coming from a video of his and literally almost the same voice
Thanks for the information.
the biggest tale-tale is... how are they making their money with this?
Signal hasn't required a phone number since like July
*Themselves, "themself" isn't a real word or you could say "him/herself" for the singular version.
Just find a rando forum board .. sign up with your fav email. Then send each other gpg encrypted messages via the forums internal message boards. Almost think this is the best defense is to hide in plain site at this point. since anything broadcasting security is gonna get eyes on it.. or should I say 5 eyes.
This makes sense
SKY ECC VIBES!!!!!!!!!
Any idea of a 100% private message that is also in a MMO or a multiplayer game? Lol just asking.
Any MMO besides WoW because they are all dead and no one looks into them.
dont we have enough private messaging apps 💀
Whats your thoughts on Teleguard?