2022-2024 Civic 2.0 Manual Acceleration [Sport Hatchback]
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- 2023 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport. K20C2 Engine with 6 Speed Manual Transmission. This video is just to document the acceleration of this car in stock form and my thoughts on how the power level is for daily driving.
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The 2.0L NA is adequate enough to get up to speed in my opinion. I have no issues getting up to highway speed and passing people. Having a manual transmission definitely makes a big difference compared to the CVT. It’s much more enjoyable to drive. Excited for the future videos!
Agreed, I love mine! Got a ktuner in the mail though, about to have some fun.
I want this car so badly, with the NA 2.0 and 6MT
@@SLOK20C2I have a 2.0 CVT Sport and mine has been tuned for the past 4 months. I freaking love it!!! Feel so sporty and the throttle response is so much better too! Only downside is that we only have Base Tune from KTuner to play with, but it’s still very much worth it, I promise.
@@ufork To get a Sport HB 6MT, I had to find a dealer that was willing to look into what was be made at the factory, and snag it. Couldn't find any on the lot at any dealership.
Always love seeing reviews of the manual 2.0, rarely any content on the platform so im always grateful when there is some! Thanks!
Appreciate that comment man thank you!
Great video! Keep up the rare content for this manual trim.
Will do thank you my friend !
Glad I found this channel. Picking up my manual 24 civic hatchback sport on Monday and I can’t wait. I’ve owned a couple 8th gens too (Si and 1.8) so it’s cool to see those in comparison
Your reviews of this generation and model Civic was one of the main reasons I just bought this car for 2024. Your attention to detail with the presentation of your car was exactly the details in a review I was looking for. The motor and 6 speed are so good. Thanks Naus.
Awesome to hear my friend! Enjoy your new car !
My first car was manual but its been years since I've had it, and I've been eyeing the new civic hatchback for a while, but i think your channel is convincing me to pull the trigger on the manual version
Great videos. I have the same 6mt with AEM CAI in red. Can’t wait to watch your next mods!
Thanks man!!! Stay tuned !😁
I also live in upstate NY and have the exact same car as you down to the paint. I hope to also eventually tune the car to achieve a downshift more similar to the older Toyota 5 speeds I grew up driving. Thanks for sharing your experiences with this model!
Coming from a used 2011 nissan altima, I bought the 2.0 24 civic hatch sport manual as my very first brand new car. Just hit 1000 miles, and so far, I love it! I'm looking forward to seeing the mods you were talking about !
Congrats ! Best of luck with your new car!
Just tuned my ‘24 6MT Sport hatch.
VTEC Lowered to 4500, Rev limit at 7500 with it kicking back to 7490 at cutoff. Throttle response set to level 2. Other than that it’s stock rn, other than 18’ RPF1’s and 245 width Falken FK510’s. Many mods to come, but it already feels like a different car. Should have a video of a 1st-2nd run tomorrow.
Can’t wait to see it man! Are you just running the base map it comes with ?
Yes!!! The ktuner is a great first mod if you wanna get more out of your newer Honda. I have one in my 8th gen accord and it really wakes up k24 under the hood with the 91oct base map, makes for a fantastic daily driver.
Can't wait to hear your feedback on these mods. Especially the tuning. Would live to be able to raise the redline by 250-500 or so to give a little more range in the twisties. The cutoff hits hard right when the engine seems to be really making good power.
well done brother
you make great videos. I have a 24 Sport w/cvt..
I have the cvt sport model of this car the sedan I know how to drive stick but I got tired of it specially for a daily driving the auto was the choice for me great car love it k20 is sweet to love to hear vtec cross over cvt does a good job in sport mode but doesn’t compare to 6spd
Thanks for telling us why you went with the auto
Been keeping track of inventory and these 6MTs aren’t staying on dealer lots for long. When ‘25s arrive, hoping I can get a decent deal…
Thanks for the video, I’m hoping that trim refresh we’re seeing on the ‘25 hybrid makes its way to a NA manual.
I really hope they keep it around, but with the hybrid coming next year, that would make 4 powertrain options for the civic platform 👀 will one of them be dropped??? We shall see
I got a 2024 in "blaze blue" a few weeks ago, just like yours. I dig it, good fun. Your videos helped me decide on trying one out. I think you said something about the wipers being annoying to put "up" for snow- did you figure out the "wiper maintainance" mode? Shut your car off and hold the wiper stalk up for 2 seconds and it'll pop the wipers in full up position.
Yes I mentioned the maintenance mode in my dislikes video and demonstrated it, it’s still awful, because if you get a surprise snow storm over night (which happens here in NY all the time) and you didn’t remember to do the maintence mode thing the night before, the next morning your screwed lol
@@NAUS2K Wisconsin here, rest assured I can relate
Nice video and the overlay ! You go thru the first gear sooo fast on left frame. It's at 7k when the right one is only at 6k. Granted the left frame starts out near 4k when the right frame is at 3.5k. And you can definitely see the downside of a digital speed readout. In a sprint it updates way too slowly to know the instant speed and that's probably done on purpose so one can read a stable number... If we had analog speed, we could check the gear ratios out but those are probably also documented.
Actually in a sprint, a CVT will keep the revs at the limiter the whole time so the engine is at peak torque. But you're not necessarily extracting that out since the CVT needs to upshift fast enough (and it'll be geared to gradual shifts). So in one, you accelerate as fast as transmission upshifts but in the other (geared), it's as fast as the engine accelerates the load.
thanks, thinking about getting one, might have to splurge on an si
I just got Ktuner for mine. Didn't plan on getting it for this car, but I saw it for an absolute steal as an open box special on the Walmart website, took a risk and ordered it for $318 shipped. Came unlocked and in great condition. No issues. The Ktuner flash tune along with upgraded exhaust + intake make it feel so much better. The throttle response is about as close to instant as you can get on these cars. I have VTEC kicking in at 5,000 and redline at 7,000. Not gonna be fast by any means, but really wakes the engine up and makes the power delivery feel so much better. Great daily either way, whether it's stock or not.
Awesome to hear! I will begin the tuning process in April after I get the yearly inspection done first 🙌
great videos. almost ended up with civic sport 6mt because of this channel
I’ve got a 24 6MT Sport, love it. Coming from from a focus st that I had tuned and modded to nearly 400hp, and got tired of it breaking. First car was a 05’ RSX-S and I’m going to attempt to recreate it as best as possible in this civic 2.0L. Have a ktuner in the mail to kick the rpm limit higher and lower vtec, after that it’ll be a catted rv6 downpipe, function werk front pipe and possibly a remark exhaust. Keep us updated with yours, love seeing it!
Do you have any socials? I would love to follow this build! Someone needs to start a group page for 2.0L NA civics with a manual transmission.
That’s awesome man , very cool to hear your perspective. I drove a 07 civic si 4 door from 2010-2019. Went from daily to garage queen and supercharged. That car was a blast, if I could buy a brand new one in stock form today, I would in a heartbeat
@@NAUS2Kagreed! Something about the 11th 2.0 6MT is fun man, so little rev hang, and once it’s tuned, man, I’m excited. Ktuner should be in this Tuesday! It’s got 18x8.5 RPF1’s on it rn, with 245/40/18 Falken fk510’s, being a 300TW tire, it handles great. Soon I’m putting 18x9.5 NT03s on it and eibach pro kit springs, looking to do a similar wheel setup to Axion Industries Sport Touring if you’ve seen it. And I love the 8th gen Si, it’s a great car, I had a 9th gen Si coupe for a while, a 13 Si, it was fun but not as practical as the RSX with the hatch. I wish I could find a new RSX-S but unfortunately that time has passed, and the ones that you can find are typically trashed. Looking forward to seeing your build!
@@adaml4652I’m on the CIVIC XI forum under the same name SLOK20C2, but I haven’t really posted anything yet. That being said, the tuner is in today, once I’m off work at 4, the fun begins haha
@@SLOK20C2any updates on how the car handles with ktuner?
I want to own one of these some day, especially in manual
I Have the same car with a CVT. Unfortunately, I could not find a manual when I was buying it. That CVT is the only letdown, in my opinion. It's my first Honda, and I've been really happy with it.
Hi, How many Honda cars do you have? Thanks
I found the best way to improve throttle response without modding... Drive in Eco mode for a week and then switch back! Hahaha! I really tried to get used to Eco but omg it's so terrible! I wish there was a mode to only use eco when the cruise is set! That said, I did a work week in eco and very much focused on fuel savings and managed 43 mpg. Also installed IdleStopper to disable that Auto stop start bs.
Very excited to see what the difference is after the intake in terms of noise. Maybe it will defeat the Passport for best sounding current honda lol!
We shall see, but it’s highly doubtful ! That j35 vtec is sooo good
Does your clutch pedal vibrate a little bit at high rpm? AKA, feel the engine through your left foot upon clutch disengagement?
Nope, I wish I felt more of the engine!
Do you think the refreshed 2025 civic will have the manual 2.0l as an option?
I’m skeptical, I sure hope so, but if they do, the civic will have 4 powertrain options
It would be nice if the throttle body closed all the way with my foot off the gas, and maybe if the vtec engaged at lower rpms since I almost never go past 4 even in normal hard acceleration (instead of what, 6100 rpms?), but even so it's a very fun car to drive, and significantly faster than the 2003 Civic LX I was using before (with over 230k miles). Although something to be said for that 03, the 1.7L ate the number 4 cylinder on my way home from a long trip, and it still managed to make it back over 900 miles on just 3 cylinders after I had a shop disable the fuel injector. I'm not sure these newer engines would let that happen.
Something to say about those older Hondas. They were just simple and built to a higher standard
I am wondering how notchy is your shifter? I got a 24 2.0 manual with the 6 speed, have 900 miles on it now but i feel like all gears are pretty notchy for all gears especially when cold (below 40F). It's like i am shifting through rocks or like 2 to 3 notches sometimes. When it warms up it does get a lot better. And do you get feel like sometimes 1st gear doesn't wanna come out especially when turning even with clutch all the way in? im just kinda disappointed bout the shifting feel it feels like as if there is something wrong with synchros
Honestly the effort to move the shifter between gears has gone down significantly over time. I’m at almost 6k miles now and the shift feel has definitely got smoother. Give it some more time to break in my friend!
@@NAUS2KI have to agree! I'm only at 1,200 miles and it's gotten much smoother already! When I first picked it up from the dealership it really didn't want to go into 6th. After seeing the inner workings then I installed the IdleStopper, I noticed it's all a bunch of plastic at the bottom of the shifter, like a big plastic ball with some grease on it... I think the grease just needs time to spread around or something. Probably the same with the linkage under the car, just needs time and use to get everything lubed up properly.
@@jpierce1987 I guess you do a lot of non highway miles? I got it to around 1200 miles today too but 800 miles of mine or so so far are highway 70mph 6th gear cruise. My shifter is still pretty notchy especially when it's like 35 degrees here
@@kint3300 We haven't really had any cold weather in Texas this winter. It's 89° today, so I can't speak for the temps. That may be the difference. Since I got the car we've only had like two cold days and they were very early on, less than 200 miles in.
@@jpierce1987 Pretty sure that makes a lot of difference. We had a few 70 degree days last week and the car feels so much more butter and happy
How much is it? I’m looking at a Jetta 1.5T and wonder how it compares with a 2L na.
Most people would say the Jetta would probably be more fun, but the Honda will be more reliable. So, if you're looking to own for a few years and then trade, have fun and get the Jetta. If you want to own it for many years, get the Honda. I've been loving mine. It won't win any races, but it's honestly a lot of fun and handles really well. In the short term, you'll be happy with either one. Long term, go Honda.
This is the only new Honda I'd buy. I'm going to keep my 2016 Accord Sport 6MT until it's not worth repairing. Bought brand new and it just turned 90k.
You can use paddle shifters on the cvt to keep revs high.
It don’t work like a manual , still overrides your decisions if it doesn’t like what you are doing
@@NAUS2K I totally agree! I have a CVT and it always shifts up earlier than when I want it.
@@NAUS2K I only tried it once. It didn’t override for me either. But I thought it will work like it did for me when I did try it. I think of you go over 6.8k it fake shifts for you. But I didn’t notice it besides that
Regardless , it’s much slower because the CVT has more power loss than a simple manual transmission, so it’s much slower than if it was with the manual
@@NAUS2K I know. I wish I had the manual. I’m not saying it’s good or anything but you can somewhat mimic it
Looking at getting a '24 6-speed Sport.
Does the 6-speed tranny feel good?
I'm hoping it feels similar to the older K20A/Z 6-speeds which were pretty slick shifting.
Transmission is very good, though I don’t think it’s as good of a feel as Honda MTs from a decade ago+
@@NAUS2K thanks for the reply
@@NAUS2KEnded up getting a '24 boost blue sport HB. Definitely like the 6-speed trans. I have noticed that gears 1, 2 and 3 shift a little hard sometimes with a little bit of grind. Have you experienced this at all?
@@MacCready_ I’ve never had a grind, but it was notchy when new. I’m at 8400 miles now and the shift feel has done nothing but improve with time
@@NAUS2K Cool thanks. I kinda figured it might wear in. Doesn't even have 300 mi on the OD yet so I'll give it time.
How does this compare against a stock 8th gen Si?
Nothing but disappointment 🤣 less rev hang though, my FA5 did have quite a bit of rev hang on the stock ecu, but the FA5 was a much better car than this
im so sad i didnt wait a little more for the manual 😭
Get in line now!!! It’s worth it
0:29 so how can you compare this civic with the R18 engine? Thats not right
What do you mean it’s not right ? It’s literally the most fair comparison there is. The 2023 civic sport trim is second from bottom, the 2010 civic LX Sport trim with 5 speed manual I had was second from bottom. The 2010 was about 18k brand new in 2010. With inflation that’s 26k today, which is exactly what the 2023 sport costs. Both cars have nearly identical power to weight numbers as shown in the video.
what’s the average 0-60? Don’t care about performance on stock, just out of curiosity
No idea, never launched it hard from a stop to do a 0-60. That’s about the least exciting thing i can do with this car. I just plan to make it a fun and responsive daily
@@NAUS2K nice! for me I planned to wait for aftermarket parts, some are out now but more internal motor upgrades are scarce asf but I can wait till da warranty goes bye bye .
11 gen sedan with CVT will do high 8 and low 9 seconds, and this hatchback is heavier, and CVT will do faster 0-60 compared to manual, so 9 ish seconds would be my guess.
Yea, the cvt is faster but not by much, and the manual is more fun. But regardless, you probably won't even notice a difference in times in real world.
Disagree, the cvt with this low HP NA power plant looses more HP to the wheels. With a good driver the 6MT would 100% put down a better 0-60.
Did you see leak? No manual for 2025 civic other than type R
Sure did. I knew it was coming !
It's clear that Honda has tested throttle hang to be more efficient on gas mileage. Even though you may want the car to slow down, Honda has chosen the amount of deceleration that makes the best MPG.
I agree it's pretty stupid.
I’ve been wondering why nobody is tuning this one especially
I will be here soon, stay tuned !
I have been looking for this civic model for months, talking about scarce to almost nonexistent, especially any place on the West Coast but I'm going to keep looking.
You mentioned that you were going to install a aftermarket intake. i'd sure like to talk you out of that. They don't do anything for the performance of the car especially in your use except the intake is noisy, but some people like that. The only time an intake would be of any value or gain any kind of horsepower is if you were drag racing it, or it was constantly being used in full power at high rpm where the intake might be useful. Maybe you have seen "the lemon factor" here is just one of the links... ruclips.net/video/wQ-1DEia5pQ/видео.html . It's understood that he's not bolting these intakes on your particular engine, but it just goes to show how money is wasted buying aftermarket air intakes, and I haven't even mentioned how bad the filtration system is compared to the stock Honda filter with its cold air intake. Just my two Cents.
If you check out my channel you’ll know I’ve been in the Honda game for quite a while. I know the whole deal with intakes. My goal is not HP. Goal is to have a fun, responsive, and somewhat good sounding daily driver. I won’t be using the prl oiled filter as well, stay tuned for the video, got some good info to release!
@@NAUS2K aem dry filter?
They are very hard to find. At the time I purchased mine, it was the only one in Texas. The next closest I could find was in Kansas, and I was ready to make the drive if I had to! Good luck! I hope you find one soon!
@@jpierce1987 finally my dealership found three or four that are in preproduction right now, so I may be an owner in about 45 days. I hope this works out.
Once you “ tune it” your warranty is gonr
Can always flash back to oem ecu. Plus, the engine in this car is literally the last thing I’m worried about for this cars warranty . Big reason I went with the k20 trim
@@NAUS2K nope . Dealers scam tool will show that it is tuned. If you have it flashed, that also shows. It’s not just the engine portion of the warranty they will be canceled, it will be the entire warranty. Zero coverage no coverage for the blower motor. No coverage for a key fob. No coverage for nothing. Read your owners manual. Entire warranty goes away, you are 100% on your own and responsible for all failures the minute you modify the tuning.
Sounds like you don’t like to party 🎉
You are hunting something that doesn't exist. I'm here to tell you that the lack of engine braking has nothing to do with the throttle body. It has everything to do with the ultra low friction engine internals and drivetrain, super thin oil, and valve timing.
Go watch my other video on pedal commander where I show the throttle body tuning in detail, the throttle body stays open quite a bit when you are off the throttle. It’s RPM based so it maintains a low level of vacuum through the engine and manifold. If it closed all the way it would absolutely help out with engine braking
Turbo it
No
I wouldn't get Pedal Commander if I was you...
My man, I already got it, did a full in depth review ( linked in the video description ) and returned it within their 30 day window.
For the same amount of money you can get an older fast car
Older car on NY = rust. Goal behind buying new was to get 10+ years out of a reliably daily and not deal with rust issues