After 40 years of playing all forms of video games and after retiring EQ around 17 years ago, my Barbarian Shaman is still the only character I'm nostalgic about.
Same. I can still remember so much about him, all the various pieces of gear I got and where/when. So many more memories than any - or even all other games combined.
Same! Half Elf Bard here, and I really MISS playing him almost 20-ish years later. But I used to play with my family. My wife, both sisters, both their husbands, my MOM!!!, and a couple of IRL friends. We always had a group (or 2 if we were all on) we'd grind XP together in The Overthere and other places. I never played D&D ever in my life, until a year ago I started for my kids... I want to get my family EQ greoup together and DM an adventure for them.
Warrior: Portable wall. Often paid in booze or cookies. Frequent members of alcoholics anonymous. The good ones remember to wash their armor. Paladin: Sparkly Stunboi. Palatability depends on religion; some come with Pegasus, others with White Vans. Good touch can make you tingle. Shadowknight: Orginal Edgelord. But often amusing. Comes with extra bone shards for the necro. Has uncle festers bad touch. Does NOT make you tingle. Mage: Diet Coke Wizard. Can summon you crackers and flat tea. Elemental pokemon trainers. Must be Gnomes by default. Ranger: Shootyboi. All the pew pews. Often gets lost. Easily distracted. Still don’t have translocate. Beserker: Angryboi. Speaks loudly and carries big axe. Often throws axes and party members. Halitosis optional. Intoxication is not. Cleric: Healer’s healer. Often AFK. Often record keepers of /gem scores. Must wear plate mail made out of cardboard. Druid: Natureboi. SoW dispenser. Never lost but often pretends to be. Some come with fleas. Has the only DOT in the game with a HP bar. Shaman: Slowboi. Frequent wingman of melees. Most often the designated driver. Comes with wolf pupper. Questionable diet practices. Wizard: Big Kaboom. Sometimes forgets to Med. Never forgets to Evac. Might be AFK and you would never know. Current record holders of most bodies in zone. Necromancer: Spookybois. Always first to FD. Always last to show up at the raid. Doesn’t always have pet discipline. Often summoned. Sometimes throws coffins over bridges. Enchanter: Prettybois. Big of mouth but slow of foot. Blue juice to spare. Comes with big timeout spells. Comes with resurrection punchcard. Beastlord: Beastybois. Is often a pet with their own pet. Sometimes housetrained. Has nice blue sparkle juice. Pets often the smarter of the pair. Bard: Singsongboi. Quick runner. Some are very good. Some are also very bad. Always first to call for Evac. Prone to panic before your mercs. Rogue: Stabbybois. Good at buttstabbing. Also good at face planting and dirt eating. Racially indecisive. Rarely brings snacks. Will steal everything. Even your girlfriend. Monk: Kungfubois. Can kick high. But has small pockets. Are not bulletproof despite claims. Expert body draggers. Especially their own.
I've never seen a better description of the classes than this. I played almost all of these classes to mid-high levels (40's-70) back in EQ's heyday, and I can't disagree with most of it. Laughably true. My mage put all the wizards to shame, though. Hundreds of AA's FTW. Back when elemental pets could flurry, rampage, and everything else.
Thank you to everyone who came by to the stream and to Midnight Rations who helped make this video. If you disagree with what I put down, please make a case for it. I can be persuaded 😄 Some of the information in the video is lacking. Thanks to everyone in the comments section.
Hey man I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now. Just wanted to thank you for putting this video together. I come back to it a lot! I recently started playing EQ again from not playing since 2005 haha! Your videos are very helpful
I played a troll warrior back in the day, had top end gear on server up through PoP. In groups (when I wasn't boxing) I would often fight berzerk (had a huge hp pool and with a bunch of stacked regen small heals were enough because the mobs didn't last long), using some crazy 2 hander usually (fewer ripostes when fighting berzerk = good)... My favorite (and there were many), was at the start of the SoL expansion when I got my Dathor Great Hammer and killed an entire guild with it, in one swing... Nobody lived. 25 or so were all sitting tightly together in the arena going over some raid planning. I ran out of town to let a mob get me berzerk, ran in, jumped in the middle of them all and said "Sup", popped my crit damage disc, hit rampage, and landed instant max damage crits on it all of them because they were sitting... think they were hits for 3,500 or so (87,000dps isnt bad, my best log was 250k dps but that is another story). I then camped their corpses... for like 15 minutes... and when they finally got organized, dawned summoned mage armor, and finally killed me, I was their raid lol How I miss those old days.
Great summary. I played an Enchanter and my GF at the time was a Shaman. We never had problems finding groups and we could play just the two of us without issue. Fear and DoT with crowd control was unbeatable.
Indeed, best partners for enchanters : - sham (slow, malo, heals on ench / must switch pet when low hp) - cleric (stun, complete heals on charmed mob) - druid (snare, heals on ench / must switch pet when low hp)
Special Talents of a Rogue is basically having no responsibility and just showing up and pressing a single macro. Compared to playing a Cleric, Tank, Healer, Puller, pet class, hybrid etc.. it's extremely chill and I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to play, but doesn't want to apply themselves at all.
My rogue was top damage on Quarm the first time he dropped on Fireona Vie...Temeilion Chameleon Shout out to FireNFury....it was an easy class to wipe a raid with if you didn't pay attention to agro and a worthless class if you didn't press the limit....but if you walked a fine line you were 30+% of total dps a 50+ man raid and you didn't require individual heals. Kill shot on Quarm btw.
I'd like to add that Necro soloing might not be the absolute best for just XP, but no one else can kill raid old bosses quite like a Necro. I solo'd Trak with PoP gear on my Necro.
Good video. You have some finger waggers on here, but I find for the greater most part your breakdowns are good for preparing any new player on what to expect as a new hero
Nice video! I’ve done most of those (other than the chardok ones) - the crusader (sk) quests end up with the Greenmist sword. When I got mine it was still Iksar only. I still remember the shock after they changed it to all races at seeing a human SK in Cabilis 😁
I remember the shock of seeing a human SK talking to the SK guild master, but I figured if they were willing to do the faction work, they deserved a Greenmist.
Rogues might not be the best of soloers, but it can be done if you get good at solo backstabbing. But that entirely depends on your own talents. Some people just can't seem to do it. Also, they can be pretty desirable in The Hole, cause if you make a Halfling Rogue and worship Brell Serilis, some of the mobs con Dubious to you, so you can retrieve people's corpses for ressing, in case they can't make it there. Not to mention just general information gathering from not being KoS
Started playing just before Velious was added. Loved the game took me a few weeks of rerolling classes till I latched onto the bard. Made it to 63 just as Planes of discord launched and I fell off. Amazing memories, play time bordering obsession. So many raids, so many good pieces of gear I earned, a guild that appreciated my efforts. Getting the epic holy hell that was a prideful moment. The comaraderie with randos in dangerous areas. The community was good. People willing to help with corpse retrieval at least I did as a bard with good invisibility. Revives. Porters for cash pre-luclin
It's interesting how the devs of EQOA chose to make some minor differences to some classes comparatively to EQ1, but some MAJOR ones compared to others. Druid on the other hand seems 100% the same in EQ1 as EQOA, Mage is also very close, in fact most classes are. We never got Beastlord, and Berserker was part of our Master Class (Alternate Advancement) tree. I think it was a Warrior Master Class.
It's funny finding your comments scattered around. I kinda consider myself an old game archeologist. I jump from old game to old game to let these worlds live again and try to maybe experience some of the feelings they gave players back in the day. Your account brought awareness of eqoa to me. Is it playable yet? I would like to check it out after I try EQ1
Classic pop and before, it was rare to find a chanter running solo. Necros of course were a dime a dozen. Every class is gear dependent. it is a core part of the game.
Ranger. God I miss playing Ranger in PoP. Back in the live PoP days, I was leveling in PoJ and the WAR was having problems keeping aggro from me, so I kept nerfing myself weapon-wise (eventually going to my 2H blunt training weapon). After the party broke, he asked for me to stay and was gonna get on his SK and wanted to compete with me for aggro. Suffice to say, I went ham with spell triggers, spell shields, damage shields, and, oh yea, Earthcaller's slow proc. Even with a 6-7 level advantage, he lost aggro every time. Gave me a ton of plat for impressing him, so I'll take that win.
Hehe, I've had the same ranger as my main since 2001. He was level 89 last time I quit playing 🤣I would describe a ranger as puller/dps/peeler, because we can 'peel' a MOB off of the Enchanters so fast. No class can out agro a Ranger who is spamming Dew spells and dual-wielding low delay weapons. In fact you can steal agro from the tank and give it back with jolt any time you want 😉
@@Duskwind_ Quit around Omens of War. My raid group pretty much knew me as the 'suicide puller' cause I had the attitude that ranger had a 'feign death' except remove the feign. It was funny with all of our damage proc's, the slow proc from Earthcaller, and ranger's ridiculous attack speed how quick it took for a mob to smack the ranger around. Nevermind that one of the best bows, at the time, had a movement and attack speed slow so that aggro'd once you proc'd. Always fun playing archery ranger and watch a mob get mad and SLOWLY move your direction while everyone could dps it down with no care.
As a necro Main, I despise being treated as a Mana Battery. I was literally told, in some raids, to just load all 3 Twitch spells and not to DPS. I DPSed anyway, and nobody noticed, since Necro mana regen is through the roof. Also, the Cons for Bard should have included: 11223344112233441122334411223344, and Anti-social. :B
Bards have Melody so can use that, i think it is cheating so i do it the old way, nope not a class to play if you like to chat away for sure, but they are insanely cool, and complex, but a well played bard can do wonders.
Bard main here! Before auto twisting melody came along, I would script the song as commands and only needed to do 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4. But yeah, still very anti-social.
My first class on P99 Green when it opened was a Wizard, but it became depressing when I realized literally no one wanted to play with him. I even found out that no one would have wanted his ports either because I can't send them on their way with a SoW like Druids can. It was a pity because I genuinely liked the classical magic fantasy (robes and wizard hats and all that) and it just happened to not be well represented in EQ. I did end up rerolling to Magician simply to be more desired, but I wish that didn't have to be necessary, hehe.
I got to 60 and got my epic on wizzy. After 29 you never need a group. And wizzy ports on p99 are desirable as you are the only one with ports to the planes and you can TL to every location. And you can TL a new toon to veliois to get there tooth without having to do the run and click through. And once you hit 60 every single raiding guild out there will jump for you.
@@CrowsRevenge1 Despite what I said earlier in the post I actually did decide to try Wizard again very recently. Rolled him about a day or two after I wrote that. xD I wanted to try the class again in earnest. I know it struggles in certain areas and I will certainly miss certain things about the magician, but I just feel it better fits the theme of what I want in a character. I want to be the guy that utterly roasts his foes into ash, not have some big stone blob do it for me. My biggest concern for the most part is the ability to get groups and do dungeons. I know Wizard is a great solo artist, but to be honest I've played the game for a couple of decades and still know little of it on the higher end, particularly when it comes to dungeons. I can tell you a lot about the game's factions and the lore but I can't tell you where the Efreeti camp in SolB is or how to get there, because I've never been invited to a dungeon group beyond Crushbone or Blackburrow. And being able to explore a dungeon would have probably been easier on a magician than a wizard. But despite that I'm going to try my best and hopefully see these places one day. But on the plus side I've never seen a raid either and I'm told wizards can be pretty useful in those, so maybe it won't be as hard to see them. I appreciate the comment there. By chance is your Wizard on P99 Green? I'd love to add you and chat with you about the class some more.
@@KayossSZ I'm on blue. And tbh, if your a wizard, and your not part of a prebuilt static. Then dungeons will not be for you. It's a fact. Wizard has so many trash spells that most people dont take the time to do the math on. Spells that seem better cause they hit harder than what you were using but are less effecient and cause you to have a dps loss and more time sitting. So many players have bad tastes of basically having a dead weight player in the group. But wizards excel in quadding. Youll need to get your agro stick, jboots/sow pots and get to level 29. Then you will just rapidly quad your way to 60. A lot faster than leveling with a group. But you won't get gear etc. Tbh, a Wizard should be a second or 3rd toon on Green or blue. They are also focused on porting or raiding once you hit 60.
@@CrowsRevenge1 Ah damn, well thank you for the honesty. I do have all this caster gear on the wizard...would a necro be a better choice for what I mentioned? Or maybe back to the mage?
@@KayossSZ Necro's excel in solo and group content. Raiding your just a mana battery for a cleric or wizard. They can get groups and if there are undead, they can charm solo a lot of dungeons. If your wanting a casting class that gets groups like crazy, then I'd suggest an Enchanter. They arnt as OP as Shamans once you hit 60 but they arnt far off and can even solo in places like Plane of Fear if played correctly. And if a group has an open slot and there isnt an enchanter, then the second you say lfg, youll probably have an invite. You will need to reroll and focus on CHA though. CHA is much harder to get than INT and should be your focus. Mages solo well but they usually arnt the highest priority for groups. And if you even want to do a EPIC. your looking at like 500 to 1million pp to purchase the hate staff or get super super super super luck with a hate group in a larger guild.
Loved my shaman and my shadow knight back in the day shadow knights actually where really good at taking damage since there life taps could self heal them really well
Important note, Ogre shamans can tank and heal themselves quite well before torpor and even better after. They just need a corner to allow mobs to push against them and they clear cast. If you need aggro just disempower. By spamming it you make shadowknights look like warriors trying to take aggro from wizard who nukes before they get there.
I agree that named should have a much higher percentage of dropping normal loot table (like your exemple of DE mask) and a small percentage of dropping random stuff. Its gonna be super hard to get specific items that I really want Im afraid. Well see I guess ! its gonna be a great server, im jumping back in the game !
The only disagreement I have is the rogue's low group desirability. I would say that's actually quite high because of their high DPS. Backstab helps take down mobs quickly. I've only played EQ classic though so I'm not sure if the expansions made them worse.
Theres just nothing for magic daggers in classic. Once Kunark drops and especially when they get their epic they ramp up in desire. Monks are just broken and no dps really competes with them
Monks had incredible dps and could tank and in single group battles and short encounters they always out dps'd my rogue....but on raid bosses....it was a completely different story ... monks damage ability and inability to drop agro quickly (sure they could lay down but that did zero damage and took forever to drop the agro)....my rogue could out dps any monk on a boss fight lasting more than 20 minutes and never once take agro or require special healing other than aoe heals to counter boss aoe damage.
Back in the day, my main group of players consisted of a monk for tank, shaman, cleric, rogue and myself as Necro. The 5 of us would take on stuff even 2 groups were having hard time clearing. Great combo if everyone knows their class. I know the group pains as Necro, but few ppl realize how much utility they bring to a group. I used to joke, as solo I would fear kite with just my pet hitting the mob. But in a group, I would fear kite with more pet 'friends' haha
Although druids were not particularly good at anything, I enjoyed the travelling and exploration, solo, and grouping with friends who appreciate a skilled druid who supports healing, DPS, crowd control, teleport, travel support, and occasional evac. Miss my EQ days
I earned my 1.5 epic on my Rogue and initially started in 1999 to 2004. It may not be much, but I raided my ass off with my guild on E'ci and helped with progression. We went far! It was an awesome 5 years of every day play till the early morning hours. Long live Misty Thicket.
I recently started playing EQ, I played EQOA on ps2 for years and this is very similar especially when you learn how to play lol ..i am sad to see the only way to easily get a group is to be a puller lol ..back in my day tanks pulled :p. I tried enchanter and it was really hard ..I used a heroic boost for one and that was clearly a mistake..
Ah yeah. Anybody can be a puller in later EQ. I've seen amazing enchanter pullers in classic actually. There's just some classes that are better a kin but it's more of a mindset.
So ive been looking at rolling a zerker on mangler when they unlock on july 7th, ive been trying to find any info on if ther is other people leveling or will i be alone? id love to raid and see content passed when i quit in pop.
Oh man I'm so so glad to see people finally making stuff like this for good ol EQ! I feel like between P99 green and newer TLP's, especially this one coming out with the unique ruleset, the interest in the game is the highest it's been in a long time. I think this all seems pretty accurate though I'd say Rogues are at least moderately wanted in groups if they're not woefully undergeared and are, in my experience, very closely-regarded to MNK and MAG as a good DPS class, and enhanter being the only thing you'd 'want more than 1 of' in a group being a bit of an odd assessment as I can think of all kinds of situations where multiples of various classes could range from acceptable to even especially efficient (i.e. fighting undead w/ clerics, fighting outside w/ rangers/druids, 2 WARs to bounce enemies back and forth and do decent DPS etc)
Very spot on ayo, one thing tho zerkers tanking is actually realitively high... chain armor that gets a bunch of AA's in defensive traits, also snare and stun throwing are not AA's they are 15 second reusable discs that they get. Zerkers crit chance matches a warrior when the warrior goes into berserk which is why they are highly valuable when it comes to dps. As AA's later they get some pretty gnarly stuff to buff the raid and put out ALOT of damage. Zerkers do not get taunt, but their raw damage they put out essentially lets them tank in dungeons. So far thats all i know of a general basic thought about zerker, wish you woulda reached out to me first coulda gave u some more info :D Much love ayo, great video
And berzerker can solo good as long as they can pull only one mop at a time because of snare and high throwing dps. I soloed around 50 levels and i am now level 65 with my zerk, started playing again then's this monday. Was astonished that they have still bought dlcs out and the level cap is 125 crazy.
Shaman are arguably the best DOT caster in the game. Poison and Disease stacked with the proper equipment and you never run out of mana and can finish in the top 10% of DPS on boss mobs that are weak against Dis/Pois in raids all while playing the healer for a group and maintaining raid responsibilities.
this is a great video and as a EQ player from 2000-2004 as a Paladin main i kinda have to disagree with you saying low solo ability. I'd argue that because I remember people begging to join me as I just destroyed zones with undead. People in my guild used to ask me how I had so much AA points. At least I think that's what they were called, it's been so long. And it was cuz I would everyday be soloing like crazy. I even remember when Planes of power was out. There was a couple undead plane where I would be in all by myself killing undead, I would get messages asking me if what I was doing in a plane zone (which were mainly raid zones) without anybody else... well I was soloing random enemies for XP lol.
He mentioned tbat because compared to the other classes in the game. Paladin is a bit less efficient and even in order to have a chance at competing, you need to follow the undead route, which isn't always present or easy to get to
As someone who used to main a necromancer, I can tell you while they may not be the most powerful solo class, they are far and away the easiest class to solo high-end content with. Shamans and enchanters require you to be on the ball 100% of the time. But necros? Click, click, and watch the pet slice through mobs like butter.
Berzerker are changing from wich expansion is out because at some point they got a nerf before they got dps has high as a wizard but constant, but a zerk is like warrior and rogue very very gear dependent and it sucks that you only can play them only when gates of discord is out later!!!
Now a days on eq I would have to say monks are less likely to get groups if you do newer side of things but I have to say I miss the days of LDoN I use to get groups all the time until the bards killed our pulling game and tried to out do us in everyway...
Oh I almost forgot about "LDoN" until you mentioned! I was a Bard main and I was ranked near the top (or was at the top at some point?) on LDoN hard mode leader board. Sorry we took the pulling game : ) Monks were still a DPS machine thought!
No joke. Me and my friend started warriors when we first started playing in 99'. He was always soloing the craziest mods and i was gett slaughtered all, the , fucking time. Xegony server, wood elf warriors.. lol miss those days sooo much
@@IonBlaze1 Not sure what AA Hans is referring to and I've never played a Beastlord but the AA list for the class on Allakhazam shows that they got the AA Playing Possum in Underfoot. As an aside shadowknights (my main) get a resourceless feign death in Omens of War with the Death Peace line of AAs. Handy in a pinch! I had a good chuckle about us SKs having low soloing ability. Like everything in EQ it is true depending on context. I can solo as long as I'm able to keep myself alive long enough for the "death by a thousand papercuts" method to work (no fear kiting for me as I have zero trust in the game's pathing code).
I’d disagree with the Druid portion though especially from SoF/SoD onward, druids are probably more favorable for groups while clerics are for favorable for raids
I'd put the wizard as the least desirable class over the rouge for groups. Rouges have good sustain damage and wizards don't. Wizards tend to cast one spell take off a good chunk of damage and sit back down for the rest of the fight in groups of that era. Most live raid forces only seem to run one, if any that I've seen. They have needed to revamp wizards for as long as I can remember playing. Their spells just cost way too much mana and their port ability they get just isn't worth what the sacrifice to the druid(healing, buff and porting), the mage (better sustain, buffs and pet) and the necro( mana regen, pet and dead man floating).
Wizard offers group hands down best burst dps in game. They are meant for killing clerics and dangerous wizard mobs or bursting down/rooting multiple mobs when puller pulls a few too many.. Wizard isn't a terrible puller with jboots/levitate/flux staff. Wizard also offers evac, but that's pretty situational. In places like Kedge, I would say its mandatory... Overall, situational for best use of wizard for groups. Most of the bad rep is because wizard has the easiest time afking without being noticed than any other class.
Wizards also have great dps that is wayyyy more sustainable than it was in p99/original. Their tears line of AOE spell is incredibly efficient and high dps, with today's potions and especially if you have an enchanter buff, they are very underestimated.
Wizard Mana burn was sooooo OP when it first came out, were able to get 2 fg's of wizzys and just mana burn raid mobs lol Now I believe there is a timer or a Timer was put in place to circumvent this. Should def do a update vid if you haven't since mentioning luclin should mention bards dont have to manually twist anymore.
Would monk and beastlord be a good duo? I read that beastlord is basically a monk shaman hybrid that can tank a little and buff/haste/slow/heal almost as good as a shaman. I’d buff both up and melee with both and a pet. Pull w slow, dps race. As an alternative to monk/shaman.
Haha seriously ? You must have player with afk enchs only buffing and slowing late. Ench do charm mob and the group works around that. On raid only you are mainly buffer and low dps unless you work with charming on some events (rare).
I think you miss spoke when you said Paladins are a good off take because of the hammer. You cant "OFF" tank with the hammer you can rampage tank which is a different thing and is the point of the hammer for paladins. Paladins are for those that want to feel important but arnt really important. You can get by with one in a raid force through pretty much all raid content.
So I played some 20 years ago (got to mid 20's),and I've got the itch to go play on p99. What should I play as a filthy casual who finds spending time with my wife and kids more important than playing 8+ hours a day?
Yeah you can just go with what you got or get a good class combo for duoing. This video is good to check for those classes ruclips.net/video/9MuaIDqgi1Q/видео.html
I would say druid is quite nice for that, with root/snare + dots you can solo stuff fairly easily, maybe not the fastest but still, add to that run speed, damage shields and teleports and the druid is quite solid choice in my book, now i have all the classes and my first guy is from 2001 so been playing a bit :) my highest level is 87 so yeah call me casual if you like, i played a lot of hours during the years with many brakes along the way, still a great game that beats stuff like WoW in my book, the instant gratification of WoW does not lend it self to longevity.
If you're going to play on P99, Enchanters are the most OP class in the game. Id recommend playing Chanter since you can instantly get/form groups anywhere you want and its really easy to play an Enchanter on a raid. If you box it with a Druid, Cleric or Shaman then you'll be able to take on pretty much any group content in the game by yourself, or just plug in randos from /LFG to fill out your group
I loved my Enchanter until they nerfed the AA skill point to weaken its durability spent month saving up PP to buy the 64 charm spell off a guild who had copy for sale spent 3 weeks trying to solo with said spell spent 18 AA to max out the duration to have it become a 30 second death trap. Roled a Rogue and never looked back became one of top 5 on Fennin Ro loved how I was able to Tank in exp groups with my GF as Cleric and shaman friend for slows. Played so many Games but none will hold up to the memories of Everquest for challenge and comradery. Core of Legends guild was so Militant in execution of Planes of Power boss fights to this day dont recall seeing anyone else clear so many zone boss's or plane of Time so quickly. Sacred Frye became my new home and progression into new expansions up till I left.
interesting vid, shaman and monk, the most fun to play by far. Ya, you can not be a lazy sod and play a shaman, if you do, you would never get a group.
Wizards are good at soloing? The only explanation is I must've sucked as a wizard. I tried so hard to solo as a wizard and could not. Rolled a magician and never looked back.
I agree, it's just so damn risky. I came back recently after years away and tried a heroic wizard into the 90s. NuEQ is HARD. It seems like almost everything resists you and, worse, SUMMONS you for a 1-hit instakill. I ended up just casting root and stuns over and over while my wizard merc (who was set to Burn) nuked the hell out of targets. It didn't always work - they still close fast if not outright summon but it was the best strategy I could figure out. I love the concept of a wizard, but in EQ they lose mana too fast, cast times are too long and you have zero room for error with the resists and summons. Add in that traveling doesn't mean much anymore and they are just lackluster. Group evacs? Maybe it would be useful if you could get a damn group - another observation in modern EQ - nobody groups anymore ! It's just people solo/moloing or boxing. Bleh.
I've found that groups w/o chanters like my necromancer when fighting a swarm of blues and yellows at once; the fight lasts long enough I can dot all of the mobs at varying levels and have my pet threat asses. I play with aggro like I play with my life.
Yeah, you didn’t mention assassination. I can take my rogue into the deepest darkest part of a dungeon, in a room full of mobs, kill only the mob I’m interested in, and sneak out the front door with nothing else agroing. I soloed the Guise of the Hunter this way. No crowd control. No heals. Just a rogue stabbin’ a snake SON!
Well like rogue evasion, it’s not really an aa. In the case of the Shissar Assassin, Shroud of Stealth, pick lock, disarm trap, sneak into assassin’s room, get behind assassin just outside the agro radius of all of the other adds. Burn him down. Re-shroud, and slip away. My alt is an enchanter, and would have a very hard time doing that.
@1:55 first person I've ever heard besides myself/friends that pronounce luclin like this and it's def wrong but also the way it should be pronounced. cheers
To do well? Any crowd control class... Enchanter. You have to deal with RNG every 6 seconds with charm and think about your positioning. Bard for similar reasons and completely different reasons.. like being good at swarm kiting + knowing how to crowd control. Both can be very powerful.
WTF I thought there was a tinkerer class!!!! My uncle played this game when I was a kid, and I have a distinct memory of seeing his characters and one of them was a gnome tinkerer and it really intrigued me. Is this the Mandela effect or what?
I hope I am not the only one out there that is extremely disappointed that more epics were not added to the game after the Omens expansion. They really made the game a lot of fun for a lot of players and helped them as a class. A lot of other class epics were total garbage after 1 expac. I think the Cleric, SK, Paladin, Shaman (maybe?), Rogue(?), Wizard (?), and a couple of other classes actually still gain a slight benefit from their epic weapons. I would like to point out that Paladin and Shadow Knight can actually handle themselves solo fairly easily as far as melee classes are concerned. Less so as a Paladin because they cannot drop aggro via Feign Death but, if the player has mana it will last until the mana runs out! The two classes can stand toe-to-toe with opponents since a few recent changes making them a lot more tanky. Even Magicians pets are overpowered these days due to whatever decision the devs deemed to make them better tanks than some players. The notes about Necromancers is really nice because so many people play Necro's like crap. Bard: /melody # # # # # can aid in less carpal tunnel syndrome. Thank the gods! Monks: armor class loss/ soft weight limit is gone now. Become a pack mule and kick ass! Monks FD skill is based on number of uses (skill ups) makes it much much faster to use and more successful later on.
If we say wiz are needed for AE groups what about ench lol ? Specially since chain AE stun is nerfed (2021) you need 4 enchs to be safe doing it. In the deep doing it with 2 ench is mathematically impossible, with 3 it will break often. 4 ench 1 wiz 1 puller (cleric or pal, and this player MUST know how to play it and how to park mobs) Before the AE stun nerf 2 ench were often enough (i prefered 3) then we had more pullers.
Everyone who watched this knew this but couldn’t resist.
Right on! I watched it for nostalgic
So true
Nope
Maybe a year ago. No clue what you're talking about. Only recently installed everquest for the first time. Not sure how much I'll play tho
I'm actually downloading the game for the first time rn, so no, I didn't know this stuff before watching.
After 40 years of playing all forms of video games and after retiring EQ around 17 years ago, my Barbarian Shaman is still the only character I'm nostalgic about.
Same. I can still remember so much about him, all the various pieces of gear I got and where/when. So many more memories than any - or even all other games combined.
Same! Half Elf Bard here, and I really MISS playing him almost 20-ish years later. But I used to play with my family. My wife, both sisters, both their husbands, my MOM!!!, and a couple of IRL friends. We always had a group (or 2 if we were all on) we'd grind XP together in The Overthere and other places.
I never played D&D ever in my life, until a year ago I started for my kids... I want to get my family EQ greoup together and DM an adventure for them.
Eww. Barbarian.
Same.
My grandfather and I both played a Barb Shammy
i fell the same on my vah beastlord it level 115
Warrior: Portable wall. Often paid in booze or cookies. Frequent members of alcoholics anonymous. The good ones remember to wash their armor.
Paladin: Sparkly Stunboi. Palatability depends on religion; some come with Pegasus, others with White Vans. Good touch can make you tingle.
Shadowknight: Orginal Edgelord. But often amusing. Comes with extra bone shards for the necro. Has uncle festers bad touch. Does NOT make you tingle.
Mage: Diet Coke Wizard. Can summon you crackers and flat tea. Elemental pokemon trainers. Must be Gnomes by default.
Ranger: Shootyboi. All the pew pews. Often gets lost. Easily distracted. Still don’t have translocate.
Beserker: Angryboi. Speaks loudly and carries big axe. Often throws axes and party members. Halitosis optional. Intoxication is not.
Cleric: Healer’s healer. Often AFK. Often record keepers of /gem scores. Must wear plate mail made out of cardboard.
Druid: Natureboi. SoW dispenser. Never lost but often pretends to be. Some come with fleas. Has the only DOT in the game with a HP bar.
Shaman: Slowboi. Frequent wingman of melees. Most often the designated driver. Comes with wolf pupper. Questionable diet practices.
Wizard: Big Kaboom. Sometimes forgets to Med. Never forgets to Evac. Might be AFK and you would never know. Current record holders of most bodies in zone.
Necromancer: Spookybois. Always first to FD. Always last to show up at the raid. Doesn’t always have pet discipline. Often summoned. Sometimes throws coffins over bridges.
Enchanter: Prettybois. Big of mouth but slow of foot. Blue juice to spare. Comes with big timeout spells. Comes with resurrection punchcard.
Beastlord: Beastybois. Is often a pet with their own pet. Sometimes housetrained. Has nice blue sparkle juice. Pets often the smarter of the pair.
Bard: Singsongboi. Quick runner. Some are very good. Some are also very bad. Always first to call for Evac. Prone to panic before your mercs.
Rogue: Stabbybois. Good at buttstabbing. Also good at face planting and dirt eating. Racially indecisive. Rarely brings snacks. Will steal everything. Even your girlfriend.
Monk: Kungfubois. Can kick high. But has small pockets. Are not bulletproof despite claims. Expert body draggers. Especially their own.
This was very amusing to read, lol. xD
I've never seen a better description of the classes than this. I played almost all of these classes to mid-high levels (40's-70) back in EQ's heyday, and I can't disagree with most of it. Laughably true. My mage put all the wizards to shame, though. Hundreds of AA's FTW. Back when elemental pets could flurry, rampage, and everything else.
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Thank you to everyone who came by to the stream and to Midnight Rations who helped make this video. If you disagree with what I put down, please make a case for it. I can be persuaded 😄 Some of the information in the video is lacking. Thanks to everyone in the comments section.
I like the categories you setup to explain and compare the classes. Well done. You keep making really great content!
Thanks Random :)
A necro can solo to 60 naked.
Group: Low for wizard is insane. I wouldn't even know what to do if I couldn't zap around at insane speeds with ports and burn things down fast.
Hey man I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now. Just wanted to thank you for putting this video together. I come back to it a lot! I recently started playing EQ again from not playing since 2005 haha! Your videos are very helpful
I like your EQ2 starting zone music while talking about EQ1.
I played a troll warrior back in the day, had top end gear on server up through PoP. In groups (when I wasn't boxing) I would often fight berzerk (had a huge hp pool and with a bunch of stacked regen small heals were enough because the mobs didn't last long), using some crazy 2 hander usually (fewer ripostes when fighting berzerk = good)... My favorite (and there were many), was at the start of the SoL expansion when I got my Dathor Great Hammer and killed an entire guild with it, in one swing... Nobody lived.
25 or so were all sitting tightly together in the arena going over some raid planning. I ran out of town to let a mob get me berzerk, ran in, jumped in the middle of them all and said "Sup", popped my crit damage disc, hit rampage, and landed instant max damage crits on it all of them because they were sitting... think they were hits for 3,500 or so (87,000dps isnt bad, my best log was 250k dps but that is another story). I then camped their corpses... for like 15 minutes... and when they finally got organized, dawned summoned mage armor, and finally killed me, I was their raid lol
How I miss those old days.
That cheesy classic EQ intro music... hits me everytime!
Great summary. I played an Enchanter and my GF at the time was a Shaman. We never had problems finding groups and we could play just the two of us without issue. Fear and DoT with crowd control was unbeatable.
Indeed, best partners for enchanters :
- sham (slow, malo, heals on ench / must switch pet when low hp)
- cleric (stun, complete heals on charmed mob)
- druid (snare, heals on ench / must switch pet when low hp)
I was a Bard main, so much fun!
Rogues are highly sought after for Groups and Raids. Monk DPS starts to match and surpass the Rogue around Velious
lol, dps classes don't matter so long as you have charm available
@@mashadarii until charm breaks and kills the chanter
@@woahhbro2906 lol, never happens
Dude you have it completely backwards. It’s Monks who are top melee dps and the rogues don’t start to catch up until velious.
@@drewc3350 Nah, Monks get Triple Attack in Velious which allows them to catch up to Rogues.
I miss playing this game.
Make an account. Aradune tlp is on classic
just play p99 get the titanium files
New tlp this month best yet
@@russellruby1293 I think I’m going to do it.
Special Talents of a Rogue is basically having no responsibility and just showing up and pressing a single macro. Compared to playing a Cleric, Tank, Healer, Puller, pet class, hybrid etc.. it's extremely chill and I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to play, but doesn't want to apply themselves at all.
Lol. Yes.
How do you level up if you can't find a group? Asking cuz I'm a noob but love the idea of rogue.
Wiz are even better : you dont even move your character :D
My rogue was top damage on Quarm the first time he dropped on Fireona Vie...Temeilion Chameleon Shout out to FireNFury....it was an easy class to wipe a raid with if you didn't pay attention to agro and a worthless class if you didn't press the limit....but if you walked a fine line you were 30+% of total dps a 50+ man raid and you didn't require individual heals. Kill shot on Quarm btw.
Terrific video. Will share. Thanks for posting.
Thanks Alexander
I'd like to add that Necro soloing might not be the absolute best for just XP, but no one else can kill raid old bosses quite like a Necro. I solo'd Trak with PoP gear on my Necro.
Great job man, cool to watch even for a vet.
Thanks for watching & commenting :)
The struggle was real, you invested hours in your toon ! Death penalty was brutal ! A classic game that will forever make me smile.
Good video. You have some finger waggers on here, but I find for the greater most part your breakdowns are good for preparing any new player on what to expect as a new hero
Nice video! I’ve done most of those (other than the chardok ones) - the crusader (sk) quests end up with the Greenmist sword. When I got mine it was still Iksar only. I still remember the shock after they changed it to all races at seeing a human SK in Cabilis 😁
I remember the shock of seeing a human SK talking to the SK guild master, but I figured if they were willing to do the faction work, they deserved a Greenmist.
Rogues might not be the best of soloers, but it can be done if you get good at solo backstabbing. But that entirely depends on your own talents. Some people just can't seem to do it. Also, they can be pretty desirable in The Hole, cause if you make a Halfling Rogue and worship Brell Serilis, some of the mobs con Dubious to you, so you can retrieve people's corpses for ressing, in case they can't make it there. Not to mention just general information gathering from not being KoS
Started playing just before Velious was added. Loved the game took me a few weeks of rerolling classes till I latched onto the bard. Made it to 63 just as Planes of discord launched and I fell off.
Amazing memories, play time bordering obsession. So many raids, so many good pieces of gear I earned, a guild that appreciated my efforts. Getting the epic holy hell that was a prideful moment.
The comaraderie with randos in dangerous areas. The community was good. People willing to help with corpse retrieval at least I did as a bard with good invisibility. Revives. Porters for cash pre-luclin
It's interesting how the devs of EQOA chose to make some minor differences to some classes comparatively to EQ1, but some MAJOR ones compared to others. Druid on the other hand seems 100% the same in EQ1 as EQOA, Mage is also very close, in fact most classes are.
We never got Beastlord, and Berserker was part of our Master Class (Alternate Advancement) tree. I think it was a Warrior Master Class.
It's funny finding your comments scattered around. I kinda consider myself an old game archeologist. I jump from old game to old game to let these worlds live again and try to maybe experience some of the feelings they gave players back in the day.
Your account brought awareness of eqoa to me. Is it playable yet? I would like to check it out after I try EQ1
Classic pop and before, it was rare to find a chanter running solo. Necros of course were a dime a dozen. Every class is gear dependent. it is a core part of the game.
I played my first enchanter, from classic to pop, was mostly solo. I got her to 51 before I retired from the game for many years.
Ranger. God I miss playing Ranger in PoP. Back in the live PoP days, I was leveling in PoJ and the WAR was having problems keeping aggro from me, so I kept nerfing myself weapon-wise (eventually going to my 2H blunt training weapon). After the party broke, he asked for me to stay and was gonna get on his SK and wanted to compete with me for aggro. Suffice to say, I went ham with spell triggers, spell shields, damage shields, and, oh yea, Earthcaller's slow proc. Even with a 6-7 level advantage, he lost aggro every time. Gave me a ton of plat for impressing him, so I'll take that win.
Hehe, I've had the same ranger as my main since 2001. He was level 89 last time I quit playing 🤣I would describe a ranger as puller/dps/peeler, because we can 'peel' a MOB off of the Enchanters so fast. No class can out agro a Ranger who is spamming Dew spells and dual-wielding low delay weapons. In fact you can steal agro from the tank and give it back with jolt any time you want 😉
@@Duskwind_ Quit around Omens of War. My raid group pretty much knew me as the 'suicide puller' cause I had the attitude that ranger had a 'feign death' except remove the feign.
It was funny with all of our damage proc's, the slow proc from Earthcaller, and ranger's ridiculous attack speed how quick it took for a mob to smack the ranger around.
Nevermind that one of the best bows, at the time, had a movement and attack speed slow so that aggro'd once you proc'd. Always fun playing archery ranger and watch a mob get mad and SLOWLY move your direction while everyone could dps it down with no care.
Every class in classic CON: mana regen
Actually got back into the game because of his videos just a month ago lol
As a necro Main, I despise being treated as a Mana Battery. I was literally told, in some raids, to just load all 3 Twitch spells and not to DPS. I DPSed anyway, and nobody noticed, since Necro mana regen is through the roof.
Also, the Cons for Bard should have included: 11223344112233441122334411223344, and Anti-social. :B
It's nice how the twitch spells get phased out. It's a suckage role to be a DPS class that can't dps.
Ive never been told so.. ofc i twitch, but at my discretion
Bards have Melody so can use that, i think it is cheating so i do it the old way, nope not a class to play if you like to chat away for sure, but they are insanely cool, and complex, but a well played bard can do wonders.
Bard main here! Before auto twisting melody came along, I would script the song as commands and only needed to do 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4. But yeah, still very anti-social.
My first class on P99 Green when it opened was a Wizard, but it became depressing when I realized literally no one wanted to play with him. I even found out that no one would have wanted his ports either because I can't send them on their way with a SoW like Druids can. It was a pity because I genuinely liked the classical magic fantasy (robes and wizard hats and all that) and it just happened to not be well represented in EQ.
I did end up rerolling to Magician simply to be more desired, but I wish that didn't have to be necessary, hehe.
I got to 60 and got my epic on wizzy. After 29 you never need a group. And wizzy ports on p99 are desirable as you are the only one with ports to the planes and you can TL to every location. And you can TL a new toon to veliois to get there tooth without having to do the run and click through. And once you hit 60 every single raiding guild out there will jump for you.
@@CrowsRevenge1 Despite what I said earlier in the post I actually did decide to try Wizard again very recently. Rolled him about a day or two after I wrote that. xD
I wanted to try the class again in earnest. I know it struggles in certain areas and I will certainly miss certain things about the magician, but I just feel it better fits the theme of what I want in a character. I want to be the guy that utterly roasts his foes into ash, not have some big stone blob do it for me.
My biggest concern for the most part is the ability to get groups and do dungeons. I know Wizard is a great solo artist, but to be honest I've played the game for a couple of decades and still know little of it on the higher end, particularly when it comes to dungeons. I can tell you a lot about the game's factions and the lore but I can't tell you where the Efreeti camp in SolB is or how to get there, because I've never been invited to a dungeon group beyond Crushbone or Blackburrow. And being able to explore a dungeon would have probably been easier on a magician than a wizard. But despite that I'm going to try my best and hopefully see these places one day. But on the plus side I've never seen a raid either and I'm told wizards can be pretty useful in those, so maybe it won't be as hard to see them.
I appreciate the comment there. By chance is your Wizard on P99 Green? I'd love to add you and chat with you about the class some more.
@@KayossSZ I'm on blue. And tbh, if your a wizard, and your not part of a prebuilt static. Then dungeons will not be for you. It's a fact. Wizard has so many trash spells that most people dont take the time to do the math on. Spells that seem better cause they hit harder than what you were using but are less effecient and cause you to have a dps loss and more time sitting. So many players have bad tastes of basically having a dead weight player in the group.
But wizards excel in quadding. Youll need to get your agro stick, jboots/sow pots and get to level 29. Then you will just rapidly quad your way to 60. A lot faster than leveling with a group. But you won't get gear etc. Tbh, a Wizard should be a second or 3rd toon on Green or blue. They are also focused on porting or raiding once you hit 60.
@@CrowsRevenge1 Ah damn, well thank you for the honesty. I do have all this caster gear on the wizard...would a necro be a better choice for what I mentioned? Or maybe back to the mage?
@@KayossSZ Necro's excel in solo and group content. Raiding your just a mana battery for a cleric or wizard. They can get groups and if there are undead, they can charm solo a lot of dungeons. If your wanting a casting class that gets groups like crazy, then I'd suggest an Enchanter. They arnt as OP as Shamans once you hit 60 but they arnt far off and can even solo in places like Plane of Fear if played correctly. And if a group has an open slot and there isnt an enchanter, then the second you say lfg, youll probably have an invite. You will need to reroll and focus on CHA though. CHA is much harder to get than INT and should be your focus. Mages solo well but they usually arnt the highest priority for groups. And if you even want to do a EPIC. your looking at like 500 to 1million pp to purchase the hate staff or get super super super super luck with a hate group in a larger guild.
Group Tank Ranking: Ranger > SK > Pally > Warrior
Nice video. Bards can link songs now so no more sore hands and you can talk too.
Loved my shaman and my shadow knight back in the day shadow knights actually where really good at taking damage since there life taps could self heal them really well
Important note, Ogre shamans can tank and heal themselves quite well before torpor and even better after. They just need a corner to allow mobs to push against them and they clear cast. If you need aggro just disempower. By spamming it you make shadowknights look like warriors trying to take aggro from wizard who nukes before they get there.
I love being support classes especially healing ones
Where are you dude, just started watching your Chan a couple weeks ago and playing p99. Love the content….give us an update of some sort
I agree that named should have a much higher percentage of dropping normal loot table (like your exemple of DE mask) and a small percentage of dropping random stuff. Its gonna be super hard to get specific items that I really want Im afraid. Well see I guess ! its gonna be a great server, im jumping back in the game !
The only disagreement I have is the rogue's low group desirability. I would say that's actually quite high because of their high DPS. Backstab helps take down mobs quickly. I've only played EQ classic though so I'm not sure if the expansions made them worse.
Oh they get a lot better later on. AA's make their dps a lot better. Gear just was really weak for the original expansion.
Theres just nothing for magic daggers in classic. Once Kunark drops and especially when they get their epic they ramp up in desire. Monks are just broken and no dps really competes with them
Monks had incredible dps and could tank and in single group battles and short encounters they always out dps'd my rogue....but on raid bosses....it was a completely different story ... monks damage ability and inability to drop agro quickly (sure they could lay down but that did zero damage and took forever to drop the agro)....my rogue could out dps any monk on a boss fight lasting more than 20 minutes and never once take agro or require special healing other than aoe heals to counter boss aoe damage.
Back in the day, my main group of players consisted of a monk for tank, shaman, cleric, rogue and myself as Necro. The 5 of us would take on stuff even 2 groups were having hard time clearing. Great combo if everyone knows their class. I know the group pains as Necro, but few ppl realize how much utility they bring to a group. I used to joke, as solo I would fear kite with just my pet hitting the mob. But in a group, I would fear kite with more pet 'friends' haha
The video is about EQ, but the music is the EQ2 newbie zone music.
Although druids were not particularly good at anything, I enjoyed the travelling and exploration, solo, and grouping with friends who appreciate a skilled druid who supports healing, DPS, crowd control, teleport, travel support, and occasional evac. Miss my EQ days
I earned my 1.5 epic on my Rogue and initially started in 1999 to 2004. It may not be much, but I raided my ass off with my guild on E'ci and helped with progression. We went far! It was an awesome 5 years of every day play till the early morning hours. Long live Misty Thicket.
They can shield others as well. Which I don’t see happening much in groups. In fact I haven’t seen them do this for years
Warrior
I recently started playing EQ, I played EQOA on ps2 for years and this is very similar especially when you learn how to play lol ..i am sad to see the only way to easily get a group is to be a puller lol ..back in my day tanks pulled :p. I tried enchanter and it was really hard ..I used a heroic boost for one and that was clearly a mistake..
Ah yeah. Anybody can be a puller in later EQ. I've seen amazing enchanter pullers in classic actually. There's just some classes that are better a kin but it's more of a mindset.
A well played Enchanter can surely save the day, and the haste and small ds they have is nice to, not to mention the mana regen buff :)
So ive been looking at rolling a zerker on mangler when they unlock on july 7th, ive been trying to find any info on if ther is other people leveling or will i be alone? id love to raid and see content passed when i quit in pop.
Oh man I'm so so glad to see people finally making stuff like this for good ol EQ! I feel like between P99 green and newer TLP's, especially this one coming out with the unique ruleset, the interest in the game is the highest it's been in a long time.
I think this all seems pretty accurate though I'd say Rogues are at least moderately wanted in groups if they're not woefully undergeared and are, in my experience, very closely-regarded to MNK and MAG as a good DPS class, and enhanter being the only thing you'd 'want more than 1 of' in a group being a bit of an odd assessment as I can think of all kinds of situations where multiples of various classes could range from acceptable to even especially efficient (i.e. fighting undead w/ clerics, fighting outside w/ rangers/druids, 2 WARs to bounce enemies back and forth and do decent DPS etc)
People make jokes about Ranger just because they're jealous when they see us out in the wilds headshotting mobs for easy exp and pp 🤣
Very spot on ayo, one thing tho zerkers tanking is actually realitively high... chain armor that gets a bunch of AA's in defensive traits, also snare and stun throwing are not AA's they are 15 second reusable discs that they get. Zerkers crit chance matches a warrior when the warrior goes into berserk which is why they are highly valuable when it comes to dps. As AA's later they get some pretty gnarly stuff to buff the raid and put out ALOT of damage. Zerkers do not get taunt, but their raw damage they put out essentially lets them tank in dungeons. So far thats all i know of a general basic thought about zerker, wish you woulda reached out to me first coulda gave u some more info :D
Much love ayo, great video
Bro thank you so much for the info. Yeah I should have reached out to you. Thanks for the zerker stuff.
And berzerker can solo good as long as they can pull only one mop at a time because of snare and high throwing dps. I soloed around 50 levels and i am now level 65 with my zerk, started playing again then's this monday. Was astonished that they have still bought dlcs out and the level cap is 125 crazy.
Shaman are arguably the best DOT caster in the game. Poison and Disease stacked with the proper equipment and you never run out of mana and can finish in the top 10% of DPS on boss mobs that are weak against Dis/Pois in raids all while playing the healer for a group and maintaining raid responsibilities.
this is a great video and as a EQ player from 2000-2004 as a Paladin main i kinda have to disagree with you saying low solo ability. I'd argue that because I remember people begging to join me as I just destroyed zones with undead. People in my guild used to ask me how I had so much AA points. At least I think that's what they were called, it's been so long. And it was cuz I would everyday be soloing like crazy. I even remember when Planes of power was out. There was a couple undead plane where I would be in all by myself killing undead, I would get messages asking me if what I was doing in a plane zone (which were mainly raid zones) without anybody else... well I was soloing random enemies for XP lol.
He mentioned tbat because compared to the other classes in the game. Paladin is a bit less efficient and even in order to have a chance at competing, you need to follow the undead route, which isn't always present or easy to get to
I never had issues finding groups as a druid. People value your utilities alot and clerics like having you around for a little bit of a break.
Crazy to think that I played that game 25 years ago and I remember so much from that time.
As someone who used to main a necromancer, I can tell you while they may not be the most powerful solo class, they are far and away the easiest class to solo high-end content with.
Shamans and enchanters require you to be on the ball 100% of the time. But necros? Click, click, and watch the pet slice through mobs like butter.
great vid dude, could we get a copy of your UI.ini? lol
If not sure if it's possible :(
I still have my UI from each class from years ago on a backup folder somewhere lol
Berzerker are changing from wich expansion is out because at some point they got a nerf before they got dps has high as a wizard but constant, but a zerk is like warrior and rogue very very gear dependent and it sucks that you only can play them only when gates of discord is out later!!!
Thank you for that info. Really don't know much about them.
I feel like a necro can do a bunch of things. I dont play one, but when they feed mana and slow plus dps it is cool.
I miss my Wood Elf Druid, saved so many asses on Raids with that dude.
Now a days on eq I would have to say monks are less likely to get groups if you do newer side of things but I have to say I miss the days of LDoN I use to get groups all the time until the bards killed our pulling game and tried to out do us in everyway...
Thank you for that. Yeah not sure about monks past this era of game.
Oh I almost forgot about "LDoN" until you mentioned! I was a Bard main and I was ranked near the top (or was at the top at some point?) on LDoN hard mode leader board. Sorry we took the pulling game : ) Monks were still a DPS machine thought!
No joke. Me and my friend started warriors when we first started playing in 99'. He was always soloing the craziest mods and i was gett slaughtered all, the , fucking time. Xegony server, wood elf warriors.. lol miss those days sooo much
And necro gets later a aa feign death that cost no mana and is instant, necro is my main class and you can do so much with them.
Beastlords Can Feign Death to. You forgot that. Its an AA.
When do they get that? I thought it wasn't until after LDoN/PoP.
@@IonBlaze1 Not sure what AA Hans is referring to and I've never played a Beastlord but the AA list for the class on Allakhazam shows that they got the AA Playing Possum in Underfoot.
As an aside shadowknights (my main) get a resourceless feign death in Omens of War with the Death Peace line of AAs. Handy in a pinch!
I had a good chuckle about us SKs having low soloing ability. Like everything in EQ it is true depending on context. I can solo as long as I'm able to keep myself alive long enough for the "death by a thousand papercuts" method to work (no fear kiting for me as I have zero trust in the game's pathing code).
I’d disagree with the Druid portion though especially from SoF/SoD onward, druids are probably more favorable for groups while clerics are for favorable for raids
Moderate soloing ability on the sk? Only in classic.
I've soloed zones. Not a mob or two at a time, whole zones that still give xp.
I'd put the wizard as the least desirable class over the rouge for groups. Rouges have good sustain damage and wizards don't. Wizards tend to cast one spell take off a good chunk of damage and sit back down for the rest of the fight in groups of that era. Most live raid forces only seem to run one, if any that I've seen. They have needed to revamp wizards for as long as I can remember playing. Their spells just cost way too much mana and their port ability they get just isn't worth what the sacrifice to the druid(healing, buff and porting), the mage (better sustain, buffs and pet) and the necro( mana regen, pet and dead man floating).
Wizard offers group hands down best burst dps in game. They are meant for killing clerics and dangerous wizard mobs or bursting down/rooting multiple mobs when puller pulls a few too many.. Wizard isn't a terrible puller with jboots/levitate/flux staff. Wizard also offers evac, but that's pretty situational. In places like Kedge, I would say its mandatory... Overall, situational for best use of wizard for groups. Most of the bad rep is because wizard has the easiest time afking without being noticed than any other class.
Wizards also have great dps that is wayyyy more sustainable than it was in p99/original. Their tears line of AOE spell is incredibly efficient and high dps, with today's potions and especially if you have an enchanter buff, they are very underestimated.
Quon the Cleric's explanation of the classes was best.
Wizard Mana burn was sooooo OP when it first came out, were able to get 2 fg's of wizzys and just mana burn raid mobs lol Now I believe there is a timer or a Timer was put in place to circumvent this. Should def do a update vid if you haven't since mentioning luclin should mention bards dont have to manually twist anymore.
Enchanter have to be up there in most deaths by far. So strong but a charmed hasted pet with weapons will kill you in seconds.
I played a wood elf ranger from 1999 launch to around 2007. My life was hard lol.
Would monk and beastlord be a good duo? I read that beastlord is basically a monk shaman hybrid that can tank a little and buff/haste/slow/heal almost as good as a shaman. I’d buff both up and melee with both and a pet. Pull w slow, dps race. As an alternative to monk/shaman.
Good duo on easy mobs, so relatively low exp.
If I want to use crossbow, am I best off choosing a ranger? Can I be a tank class and use a crossbow for playing solo?
Such a great video. It's so useful for anyone wanting to learn about the game.
Bards till the end!!
Rogue4Life.
Only reason to look for an Enchanter is for KEI. Worthless otherwise with their shortbus pets.
Haha seriously ?
You must have player with afk enchs only buffing and slowing late.
Ench do charm mob and the group works around that.
On raid only you are mainly buffer and low dps unless you work with charming on some events (rare).
I think you miss spoke when you said Paladins are a good off take because of the hammer. You cant "OFF" tank with the hammer you can rampage tank which is a different thing and is the point of the hammer for paladins. Paladins are for those that want to feel important but arnt really important. You can get by with one in a raid force through pretty much all raid content.
Just made a Wizard on the p99 green server, i hear its a bad class to use, but im having fun nuking things
So I played some 20 years ago (got to mid 20's),and I've got the itch to go play on p99. What should I play as a filthy casual who finds spending time with my wife and kids more important than playing 8+ hours a day?
your characters are still there. start where you left off. good luck to you
Yeah you can just go with what you got or get a good class combo for duoing. This video is good to check for those classes ruclips.net/video/9MuaIDqgi1Q/видео.html
I would say druid is quite nice for that, with root/snare + dots you can solo stuff fairly easily, maybe not the fastest but still, add to that run speed, damage shields and teleports and the druid is quite solid choice in my book, now i have all the classes and my first guy is from 2001 so been playing a bit :) my highest level is 87 so yeah call me casual if you like, i played a lot of hours during the years with many brakes along the way, still a great game that beats stuff like WoW in my book, the instant gratification of WoW does not lend it self to longevity.
If you're going to play on P99, Enchanters are the most OP class in the game. Id recommend playing Chanter since you can instantly get/form groups anywhere you want and its really easy to play an Enchanter on a raid. If you box it with a Druid, Cleric or Shaman then you'll be able to take on pretty much any group content in the game by yourself, or just plug in randos from /LFG to fill out your group
I loved my Enchanter until they nerfed the AA skill point to weaken its durability spent month saving up PP to buy the 64 charm spell off a guild who had copy for sale spent 3 weeks trying to solo with said spell spent 18 AA to max out the duration to have it become a 30 second death trap. Roled a Rogue and never looked back became one of top 5 on Fennin Ro loved how I was able to Tank in exp groups with my GF as Cleric and shaman friend for slows. Played so many Games but none will hold up to the memories of Everquest for challenge and comradery. Core of Legends guild was so Militant in execution of Planes of Power boss fights to this day dont recall seeing anyone else clear so many zone boss's or plane of Time so quickly. Sacred Frye became my new home and progression into new expansions up till I left.
interesting vid, shaman and monk, the most fun to play by far. Ya, you can not be a lazy sod and play a shaman, if you do, you would never get a group.
Which Server would you suggest a new player to join?
FV server. free market
Wizards are good at soloing? The only explanation is I must've sucked as a wizard. I tried so hard to solo as a wizard and could not. Rolled a magician and never looked back.
I agree, it's just so damn risky. I came back recently after years away and tried a heroic wizard into the 90s. NuEQ is HARD. It seems like almost everything resists you and, worse, SUMMONS you for a 1-hit instakill. I ended up just casting root and stuns over and over while my wizard merc (who was set to Burn) nuked the hell out of targets. It didn't always work - they still close fast if not outright summon but it was the best strategy I could figure out. I love the concept of a wizard, but in EQ they lose mana too fast, cast times are too long and you have zero room for error with the resists and summons. Add in that traveling doesn't mean much anymore and they are just lackluster. Group evacs? Maybe it would be useful if you could get a damn group - another observation in modern EQ - nobody groups anymore ! It's just people solo/moloing or boxing. Bleh.
Everyone forgets grow. Yeah shrink is practical but grow is amazing. Giant gnomes. I'm done I'm getting myself worked up
I've found that groups w/o chanters like my necromancer when fighting a swarm of blues and yellows at once; the fight lasts long enough I can dot all of the mobs at varying levels and have my pet threat asses. I play with aggro like I play with my life.
Lmao why did you do the rogue like that haha.
Yeah, you didn’t mention assassination. I can take my rogue into the deepest darkest part of a dungeon, in a room full of mobs, kill only the mob I’m interested in, and sneak out the front door with nothing else agroing. I soloed the Guise of the Hunter this way. No crowd control. No heals. Just a rogue stabbin’ a snake SON!
When do they get that AA? That sounds amazing.
Well like rogue evasion, it’s not really an aa. In the case of the Shissar Assassin, Shroud of Stealth, pick lock, disarm trap, sneak into assassin’s room, get behind assassin just outside the agro radius of all of the other adds. Burn him down. Re-shroud, and slip away. My alt is an enchanter, and would have a very hard time doing that.
Very useful resource
@1:55 first person I've ever heard besides myself/friends that pronounce luclin like this and it's def wrong but also the way it should be pronounced. cheers
My people!! FINALLY! I've pronounced it that way since 2001 and never thought I'd meet someone else who also did haha.
Whats the hardest roll to play? Enchanter? Cleric?
To do well? Any crowd control class... Enchanter. You have to deal with RNG every 6 seconds with charm and think about your positioning. Bard for similar reasons and completely different reasons.. like being good at swarm kiting + knowing how to crowd control. Both can be very powerful.
I’d love to go back and play EQ again but sadly I have a Mac
pump up a ogre to 150 strength with an sk
WTF I thought there was a tinkerer class!!!! My uncle played this game when I was a kid, and I have a distinct memory of seeing his characters and one of them was a gnome tinkerer and it really intrigued me. Is this the Mandela effect or what?
It's not a class, it's a race. The Tinkering tradeskill is exclusive to the Gnome race (doesn't matter what class - they all get access to it).
Enchanter Major DPS? Ubless they have specific charm pets situationally I doubt they have any good DPS.
Great game if have a good guild, played it all though high school. I found wow more fun, more solo friendly.
I play a MEAN enchanter
Forgot about the best thing about shaman best spell in game Grow. makes there /beastlord pets the size of a truck. shrink worst spell.
I hope I am not the only one out there that is extremely disappointed that more epics were not added to the game after the Omens expansion. They really made the game a lot of fun for a lot of players and helped them as a class. A lot of other class epics were total garbage after 1 expac. I think the Cleric, SK, Paladin, Shaman (maybe?), Rogue(?), Wizard (?), and a couple of other classes actually still gain a slight benefit from their epic weapons.
I would like to point out that Paladin and Shadow Knight can actually handle themselves solo fairly easily as far as melee classes are concerned. Less so as a Paladin because they cannot drop aggro via Feign Death but, if the player has mana it will last until the mana runs out! The two classes can stand toe-to-toe with opponents since a few recent changes making them a lot more tanky.
Even Magicians pets are overpowered these days due to whatever decision the devs deemed to make them better tanks than some players.
The notes about Necromancers is really nice because so many people play Necro's like crap.
Bard: /melody # # # # # can aid in less carpal tunnel syndrome. Thank the gods!
Monks: armor class loss/ soft weight limit is gone now. Become a pack mule and kick ass! Monks FD skill is based on number of uses (skill ups) makes it much much faster to use and more successful later on.
I appear to be the only one bitchy about epics :P
id like to compare them to wow classes. See how it evolved.
you just need 2 monk and shamy
Man that EverQuest ll music.
If we say wiz are needed for AE groups what about ench lol ? Specially since chain AE stun is nerfed (2021) you need 4 enchs to be safe doing it. In the deep doing it with 2 ench is mathematically impossible, with 3 it will break often.
4 ench
1 wiz
1 puller (cleric or pal, and this player MUST know how to play it and how to park mobs)
Before the AE stun nerf 2 ench were often enough (i prefered 3) then we had more pullers.