the jacks will blow the seals inside before they ever pop metal or castings on them . just make sure you get things well centered when really putting the pressure on them. I made a couple of delrin spacers for the sides of the press/jackplate so it kept the pusher better centered on mine. as cheap as they are they will do good work with a little modification. love the video. Getting a press is a gamechanger for doing some things.
M. TTT. The ones that are breaking were installed new less than 10 years ago... also I have seen water pipes still working older than 75 years ago. This is the new age of shoddy.
My dad would alway say..."Stand back ,Stand back, im going to give it a smack". when he came across a bolt or nut that did not want to move , while we where under a Tractor or some machine we where fixing...great memories from the 70s and 80s in my life
Great tool to have, you'll be surprised at how much use it gets. I put a light chain curtain around mine and it's saved my bacon a couple times when things have decided to go sideways.
@@rocketdogticker Also, if you look back at Marty's videos, you'll find one on a used tractor that had a hydraulic cylinder that was bent. He straightened it, but using this would have been MUCH easier.
"Vilcome to Beyond the Press. Here you can see ve have every hydraulic related object from a Kiwi RUclipsr, inclooding the bits from his tractors. He started making hydraulic press videos, so now we must deal with it" *Huge explosion goes off*
Looks just like my harbor freight special I've had for 15 years. They are a bit of a rattle fit but I haven't been able to break mine yet even when I maxed the cylinder out.
That will come in handy doing bearings and pulleys. One thing I would do though is put some cables through those springs so if they broke they wouldn't fly around.
I recommend ... 1. A shelf next to the press for all of the assorted sizes of pushing pieces you're going to collect. 2. A knob for those dang valves !! 3. If that's a two piece hand ... weld it. They hurt when the two pieces come apart smack your head. At least that's what I've heard. I don't remember after the thing hit me.
Pretty rad. The bottle jack is the only thing you are likely to have problems with eventually. Thankfully they are pretty standard in that size, making it easy to put a jack you trust more in place.
Keep an eye out for a knob that fits on the valve. Something with a set screw works nice. That way you don't have to go back and forth with the handle to release pressure.
That's so reassuring that our sisters and brothers from over the ditch also use the safety squint ,and by reading the comments ,it seems to be a global acceptable standard as well .More videos please mr Marty and thank you.
Handy piece of kit for bearings and things . Keep up the excellent work and content Marty . Top man . . Found any other abandoned or cheap old machines to fix up yet ! ! ! . Stay safe everyone .
Marty I subscribe to your channel and am always impressed at your skills. Thank you for your videos. As a kiwi stuck in Oz due to covid ii really appreciate your videos!!
Hope you make it from this Hell Hole soon.😋 and remember, its out of an abundance of caution that your stuck, my sons american girlfriend has been stuck in new York for 11 months.
I bought a similar one and it works well. The money l saved pushing out suspension bushes paid for itself the first time l used It. I made up a couple of plastic bushes to remove the slop.
Marty when you're using a press like that you really need to make sure that the bottom plate is equal on both sides cuz when you're matching that can the second time you only had a little bit on one side and the rest of it on the far side you need to pay attention to that because I seen one of those explode when a guy was pushing out a bearing and fortunately for him they had a cover over the front to protect people and it embedded itself into mesh to steel plate did so you really need to pay attention to that just a word of warning
They are handy to have. Good for the obvious of pressing bearings and bushings but good for shaft straightening too. More you look the more uses you'll find for it.
Having owned a very similar shop press for 20 years , I CAN ONLY MAKE THIS OBSERVATION: my previous did exactly as you are finding except for 2 thins. : have change the colour, or possible, the brand of jack and turned the jack from upside down to it’s normal position with the base down. Over years I turned the jack to the position your has been delivered and as I have my jack and stand have been spray painted to match the jack you now have. Mine was originally blue. Secondly because of the slight misalignment you ave identified in the first user, or so, I realigned the rails flowing watch a piece under extreme pressure and shoot across my shop.luckily I was standing to the side, as always, when that happened. If you attend to these already identified concerns, you will very likely either realign the pressure and shim the side rails, or continue to ensure your stand the side whenever it is under pressure. I always reach in and relive or pressure before I reset the pins if the jack tops out or if it a complete job that may be brought back saver reviewing the initial results to be pressed again. Good luck.
I too thought of buying one of those Chinesium presses, I think I will still keep on precision pressing my bearings on & in with a lump hammer & bearing drivers or old bearing shells.
I have the same design of 20T press purchased from Harbor Freight since I am in the US. My press has the same design flaws with the top beam gap being wider than the side C channels so I also had to use washers on one side. The beam for the press blocks also rocks. Some of this is the beam, some the hole alignment. I glued pieces of mouse pad on the end of this beam so it does not bang into the C channel sides. The boss under the jack on my press was welded at an angle. I machined this flat. I replaced the crappy jack valve with the small "T" with a hex bolt machined to the same taper. I also machined the surfaces of my press blocks which are different style than the ones in the video, but the surfaces were very uneven at first. The jack is screwed to a plate which was also welded askew, so I cut off the plate, machined the bottom of the jack and now have the jack resting directly on the beam. Some tweaks make my press function better. It has been useful, so glad to have a press in the shop. Dave.
Weld the frame joints. I did that on mine. Much less shaky now. I still need to tweak a couple things so the ram assembly tracks true instead of wobbling when I trying to line up the ram to press out a bearing. Thanks, John
If you have a good bit of thick steel tubing and some more very thick steel plates then you should be able to do just about any type of work that requires a press. Good video! Thanks again for your time.
Marty, I have a suggestion for you. I received a similar press from my cousin and I noticed the holes where the pins go are oval due to lots of use. I’ve noticed that on other presses as well. I suggest you weld a piece of 1“ x 1“ x 1/4“ plate with the pin size hole drilled in it and weld it over the holes to reinforce the metal. I’m going to do that to mine to realign that adjustable table and strengthen the holes. You only have to do it to a few holes where the pins are used most.
You gotcha a press In ScoutCrafter red. Your caution in testing Is using your head. Looks like a neat outfit. Thanks for the fun. :-) I would love to see a walk around of your new truck.
My dad has this exact unit, if it's anything like his you will need seals on that jack in a years time regardless of use, other then that works a treat.
I suspect the instructions for your one would have cautioned you to bolt it to the floor. I didn't. Pressing the impeller out of a water pump (wearing jandals) when the pump released the impeller - must have been pretty close to about 20 ton when it let go with an almighty bang and the whole press lifted about 6 inches off the floor. Mad backward shuffle to protect the toes... If you go to Super Cheap Auto sometime, see it they stock PLU346931 (Shop Press Accessory Kit) over there - very handy.
i got 1 2 years ago set it up with a spirit level welder up all the sides where the bolts are and put shims on the beam that the jack sits on it's never let me down .
Nice addition to your tool assortment. My neighbors do something similar to what you did when they smash beer cans on their foreheads. I guess I can rightly call them tools now.
A good alternative to the safety squint is a pair of safety googles or face shield. When you have a 'station' like this, it'll increase the chances of using such devices if the ppe lives within arms reach
I've had one of these for years. They are only about US$200 in the US - they work well, but the supports bend eventually. Nothing angle iron & a welder can't fix. I've made some adapters for bending heavy gauge metal, very useful. You can also use it to make pressed parts.
One of the most handy OneHungLow bits of gear albeit shockingly bad quality i bought over 15yrs ago. Used mine on some diverse projects even a rebuild of the automatic trans in an early 80's Audi 100.....
So thanks to brexit I can’t have a 20T posted to me in Scotland, thanks for rubbing it in Matry! Literally just bought a bloody 12t and a 20t jack to compensate!
I’ve got one very similar in a 12t version from Harbor Freight (local chinesium dealer). I regret not getting the 20t version. It’s pure chinesium, but I’ve used it a lot. It works ok. Creeks, pops, bangs under heavy load. I’ve pressed many bearings, bushings, etc with it. A must for any shop in my opinion.
Nice one Marty my son has a press in his shop so I haven’t had to buy one but the grief they save you pressing in and our bearings is worth every penny spent. You need to start collecting carbon steel Dies to use with the press my son keeps bits of steel that he finds and just puts them on a shelf next to the press. Tom 🇬🇧
I've had one of these cheap presses in my shop for a while. Had the same problems you mentioned. Pretty much fed up with it and will be looking for an older properly made one.
I have a very similar press, its better than nothing but not the best for sure. The looseness in the ram and table cause a lot of problems and when you have a lot of pressure on it, they tend to deflect at the worst possible time. I've thought about adding some plastic shims to take up the space but haven't got around to it yet.
usually welding those contraptions solid helps a lot to cope with flexing, but with a day to spare, you can pretty easily build a better design from scrap steel.
First stage of owning a new press: what can I squish with this?
It's comforting to know that a professional handyman like Marty also utilizes safety squints👍
I wonder if AvE is watching
Matthew, keep your stick on the ice.
@@samuelspade889 Focus you Fack!
No goggles, Just blink faster 😁
Wonder if he had his mother on speed dial?
the jacks will blow the seals inside before they ever pop metal or castings on them . just make sure you get things well centered when really putting the pressure on them. I made a couple of delrin spacers for the sides of the press/jackplate so it kept the pusher better centered on mine. as cheap as they are they will do good work with a little modification. love the video. Getting a press is a gamechanger for doing some things.
“Goes up & down.. thats a good sign” 😂😂
Not sure if Marty was expecting it go up & down :):)
Geez, Marty’s speaking Ave-speak and squashing things with a press. I feel like everything’s converging...
Important safety tip, those black steel plates for pressing against will fall off when you least expect it. They can detect bare feet.
Ouch!
That thing's built out of solid Chinesium, just like all my own tools. lol
same
Where I live we are having an abnormally high water main failures... Chinesium water pipes were a great buy a few years ago... not so much now.
@@samuelspade889 same for my area it seems, or they're all just old
M. TTT. The ones that are breaking were installed new less than 10 years ago... also I have seen water pipes still working older than 75 years ago. This is the new age of shoddy.
@@samuelspade889 Ohh wow, that is terrible. Then they raise the water bills and taxes and such! Crazy
My dad would alway say..."Stand back ,Stand back, im going to give it a smack". when he came across a bolt or nut that did not want to move , while we where under a Tractor or some machine we where fixing...great memories from the 70s and 80s in my life
Great tool to have, you'll be surprised at how much use it gets. I put a light chain curtain around mine and it's saved my bacon a couple times when things have decided to go sideways.
What do you use this tool for? I really have no idea
@@rocketdogticker Seals, shafts, bearings, anything that you would need to apply a lot of pressure to more precisely than a hammer
@@SmallMartingale ty. I could not imagine it's primary use is wood hole punching lol
@@rocketdogticker Also, if you look back at Marty's videos, you'll find one on a used tractor that had a hydraulic cylinder that was bent. He straightened it, but using this would have been MUCH easier.
@@rocketdogticker Pressing bearings and races on and off of shafts and housings. And anything that is a Press Fit.
its portable too ,,if you notice theres a carrying handle on the jack lmao
You'll be giving those Finns at the Hydraulic Press Channel a run for their money in no time! :D
"Ve must deal witt it."
@@Eisen_Jaeger yes we mustafa
"And Here we Go"
"Vilcome to Beyond the Press. Here you can see ve have every hydraulic related object from a Kiwi RUclipsr, inclooding the bits from his tractors. He started making hydraulic press videos, so now we must deal with it"
*Huge explosion goes off*
Those Finns are really smart, although they do a good job of pretending to be just messing about with BIG toys.
The rain sounds so relaxing lol
Looks just like my harbor freight special I've had for 15 years. They are a bit of a rattle fit but I haven't been able to break mine yet even when I maxed the cylinder out.
I purchased the exact same press about 4 years ago and it has performed beautifully for me. A great buy.
That will come in handy doing bearings and pulleys. One thing I would do though is put some cables through those springs so if they broke they wouldn't fly around.
She'll be right. 'Press" her right in to service.
"Its not fancy but it does the job." Frankly Marty, we need this version of this on a t-shirt: "I'm not fancy but I do the job."
I recommend ...
1. A shelf next to the press for all of the assorted sizes of pushing pieces you're going to collect.
2. A knob for those dang valves !!
3. If that's a two piece hand ... weld it. They hurt when the two pieces come apart smack your head. At least that's what I've heard. I don't remember after the thing hit me.
Pretty rad. The bottle jack is the only thing you are likely to have problems with eventually. Thankfully they are pretty standard in that size, making it easy to put a jack you trust more in place.
Keep an eye out for a knob that fits on the valve. Something with a set screw works nice. That way you don't have to go back and forth with the handle to release pressure.
Thats a good idea, cheers
I took valve out an welded a bolt to it made it easy
I turned one for mine out of nylon when I was broaching a 14 spline hub for my pellet mill and it was defiantly worth the effort.
@@MartyT You can modify one of those round wheel handles off a gate valve.
That's so reassuring that our sisters and brothers from over the ditch also use the safety squint ,and by reading the comments ,it seems to be a global acceptable standard as well .More videos please mr Marty and thank you.
20 Ton press, my 1st instinct check the metric bolt number or simply swap them out, especially if its from CH or the recent change to PRC. 😄
What a great find!! Needed that for the bent hyd ram on the tractor. But you used what you had and got the job done.
Handy piece of kit for bearings and things . Keep up the excellent work and content Marty . Top man . . Found any other abandoned or cheap old machines to fix up yet ! ! ! . Stay safe everyone .
O Marty i love you hahaha “Time to engage Safety squints” its the best thing i have heard all week
Marty I subscribe to your channel and am always impressed at your skills. Thank you for your videos. As a kiwi stuck in Oz due to covid ii really appreciate your videos!!
Hope you make it from this Hell Hole soon.😋 and remember, its out of an abundance of caution that your stuck, my sons american girlfriend has been stuck in new York for 11 months.
I put a bolster chisel on the end of my press to cut block paving, it works a treat.
Safety squints 🤣🤣🤣 mine were already activated before you had said that. I like it, never heard that before
What every man needs, a 20 ton beer can press. Great way to save space when recycling.
i built my own press, it moves anything i need it to. part of my workshop now. cheers mate.
You'll be upgrading that in no time, Air assist jack, reinforcements, tubing bender kit.. Great fun :D
The only thing to worry about on those are the press plates, a lot come with cast iron ones which can shatter under pressure.
You will enjoy it, a traveling cheap tool guy came thru most 35 years ago, still working good, basicly same thing. Used the jack everywhere also.
Nice.. Yes the removable jack is an added bonus
You are making yourself a very nice shop setup to do most anything you need 👌
I bought a similar one and it works well. The money l saved pushing out suspension bushes paid for itself the first time l used It.
I made up a couple of plastic bushes to remove the slop.
I used my air tool removed bushings fast..no set up no pumping blasted right out..
Marty when you're using a press like that you really need to make sure that the bottom plate is equal on both sides cuz when you're matching that can the second time you only had a little bit on one side and the rest of it on the far side you need to pay attention to that because I seen one of those explode when a guy was pushing out a bearing and fortunately for him they had a cover over the front to protect people and it embedded itself into mesh to steel plate did so you really need to pay attention to that just a word of warning
Nice acquisition Marty good low cost tool easy to fix and easy to modify. Great video, thumbs up.
They are handy to have. Good for the obvious of pressing bearings and bushings but good for shaft straightening too. More you look the more uses you'll find for it.
I have one of these presses, good value for money. Jack has not let me down.
I got same one too. For what I have press in. Plus it is fun to crush random things.
350 New Zealand Dollars! That's like 2 and a half Marty T. Vehicles. He must have really wanted it.
This whole video including the $350NZ was just so that you could fart on camera at 5:32?
I’m The Talent and I approve of this message.
Safety release valve
@@MartyT haha
That was a New Zealand mouse!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one to have noticed that hahahaha 🤣
I noticed it that too and laughed my ass off 🤣
A mate of mine has one of those in a professional garage, has had it in almost daily use for over ten years with no problems or breakages 👍🏻
Wish I had seen this before I lashed out and bought the cheapest floor standing drill press. Those holes in the wood were furniture quality. :)
Very useful for bending thick bar. Make some V-blocks and sharpen some bits of tubing of various diameters in the lathe to use as hole punches.
Having owned a very similar shop press for 20 years , I CAN ONLY MAKE THIS OBSERVATION: my previous did
exactly as you are finding except for 2 thins. : have change the colour, or possible, the brand of jack and turned the jack from upside down to it’s normal position with the base down. Over years I turned the jack to the position your has been delivered and as I have my jack and stand have been spray painted to match the jack you now have. Mine was originally blue.
Secondly because of the slight misalignment you ave identified in the first user, or so, I realigned the rails flowing watch a piece under extreme pressure and shoot across my shop.luckily I was standing to the side, as always, when that happened. If you attend to these already identified concerns, you will very likely either realign the pressure and shim the side rails, or continue to ensure your stand the side whenever it is under pressure. I always reach in and relive or pressure before I reset the pins if the jack tops out or if it a complete job that may be brought back saver reviewing the initial results to be pressed again. Good luck.
Wise words
I too thought of buying one of those Chinesium presses, I think I will still keep on precision pressing my bearings on & in with a lump hammer & bearing drivers or old bearing shells.
I am thinking of making my own using a bottle jack. Useful to know how they did it.
loving how many vids you are uploading lately
i have much respect for presses, it seems i destroy things with them. i never have the right circles and cylinder sizes. great channel man!
I have the same design of 20T press purchased from Harbor Freight since I am in the US. My press has the same design flaws with the top beam gap being wider than the side C channels so I also had to use washers on one side.
The beam for the press blocks also rocks. Some of this is the beam, some the hole alignment.
I glued pieces of mouse pad on the end of this beam so it does not bang into the C channel sides.
The boss under the jack on my press was welded at an angle. I machined this flat.
I replaced the crappy jack valve with the small "T" with a hex bolt machined to the same taper.
I also machined the surfaces of my press blocks which are different style than the ones in the video, but the surfaces were very uneven at first.
The jack is screwed to a plate which was also welded askew, so I cut off the plate, machined the bottom of the jack and now have the jack resting directly on the beam.
Some tweaks make my press function better. It has been useful, so glad to have a press in the shop.
Dave.
Ah, you bought one, though a bit bigger than my 6 ton one, cool... 👍👏😻
Thank God you drank the beer before you squashed the can. Thanks for sharing
Weld the frame joints. I did that on mine. Much less shaky now.
I still need to tweak a couple things so the ram assembly tracks true instead of wobbling when I trying to line up the ram to press out a bearing.
Thanks,
John
Good to be able to by a cheap gadget without any pressing issues bro. Safe travels.
If you have a good bit of thick steel tubing and some more very thick steel plates then you should be able to do just about any type of work that requires a press. Good video! Thanks again for your time.
Marty, I have a suggestion for you. I received a similar press from my cousin and I noticed the holes where the pins go are oval due to lots of use. I’ve noticed that on other presses as well. I suggest you weld a piece of 1“ x 1“ x 1/4“ plate with the pin size hole drilled in it and weld it over the holes to reinforce the metal. I’m going to do that to mine to realign that adjustable table and strengthen the holes. You only have to do it to a few holes where the pins are used most.
Good thinking, cheers
Can't wait to see you put this thing to work on some massively neglected heavy equipment bushings, pins, etc.
There’s a frog in the new shed mate
You gotcha a press
In ScoutCrafter red.
Your caution in testing
Is using your head.
Looks like a neat outfit. Thanks for the fun. :-)
I would love to see a walk around of your new truck.
"That's pretty impressive really"
Yup, it sure made an impression.
New dad joke for Marty.
Excellent work👍👍👍 . Thanks for sharing' Now Marty will apply his talents to the press and get rid of the lousy engineering.
Your videos make my entire day please make more
My dad has this exact unit, if it's anything like his you will need seals on that jack in a years time regardless of use, other then that works a treat.
You are right, I checked and it the plunger seal is already weeping haha
Nice tool to have Marty, you may want to invest in some inexpensive "LED Lighting" directly over the press as its pretty dark in there :)
I suspect the instructions for your one would have cautioned you to bolt it to the floor. I didn't. Pressing the impeller out of a water pump (wearing jandals) when the pump released the impeller - must have been pretty close to about 20 ton when it let go with an almighty bang and the whole press lifted about 6 inches off the floor. Mad backward shuffle to protect the toes... If you go to Super Cheap Auto sometime, see it they stock PLU346931 (Shop Press Accessory Kit) over there - very handy.
Now the can is only 2 mm thick, you could use it to make a washer for the top and get the spacing perfect :)
i got 1 2 years ago set it up with a spirit level welder up all the sides where the bolts are and put shims on the beam that the jack sits on it's never let me down .
Marty is the king of making things happy !
Nice addition to your tool assortment.
My neighbors do something similar to what you did when they smash beer cans on their foreheads. I guess I can rightly call them tools now.
Lol love the vids. I’ve had to use the safety squints a couple of times myself
s/b a great addition to your shop
Buy? BUY!?
Not found in the forest, or floating on a lake near a stabbin' Cabin.
This is not the Marty T content I subscribed for!
Same as mine bar for the colour, works a treat done a few jobs with it.
I got a 12-ton cheapo one from Harbor Freight in the US. Same poor tolerances but it does what I need it to do.
You've needed one of these for longer than I have and I built mine 5 years ago.😀👍 PS, 1000th like, yay
A good alternative to the safety squint is a pair of safety googles or face shield. When you have a 'station' like this, it'll increase the chances of using such devices if the ppe lives within arms reach
I've had one of these for years. They are only about US$200 in the US - they work well, but the supports bend eventually. Nothing angle iron & a welder can't fix. I've made some adapters for bending heavy gauge metal, very useful. You can also use it to make pressed parts.
I'm taking all my cans to Marty's.
He will squeeze all the remaining🍺 drops from those 😁
One of the most handy OneHungLow bits of gear albeit shockingly bad quality i bought over 15yrs ago. Used mine on some diverse projects even a rebuild of the automatic trans in an early 80's Audi 100.....
Awesome vid"press on' with them and Keep'em coming!
So thanks to brexit I can’t have a 20T posted to me in Scotland, thanks for rubbing it in Matry! Literally just bought a bloody 12t and a 20t jack to compensate!
If it works, it works ;) A very useful piece of equipment to have around :)
I bought the 6 ton one and have managed to bend the frame. The 20 ton one is probably in the same boat.
I’ve got one very similar in a 12t version from Harbor Freight (local chinesium dealer). I regret not getting the 20t version. It’s pure chinesium, but I’ve used it a lot. It works ok. Creeks, pops, bangs under heavy load. I’ve pressed many bearings, bushings, etc with it. A must for any shop in my opinion.
Nice one Marty my son has a press in his shop so I haven’t had to buy one but the grief they save you pressing in and our bearings is worth every penny spent. You need to start collecting carbon steel Dies to use with the press my son keeps bits of steel that he finds and just puts them on a shelf next to the press. Tom 🇬🇧
Now you can drink twice as much beer without the Misses knowing...LOL
I've got the same press had for a few years now and haven't had any problems with it work well
nice and red, very handy to have around!!!!!
REPLACE WIMPY EYE BOLTS WITH A MANLY SET, RUN SAFETY WIRE THROUGH THE TWO SPRINGS. THESE CAN KILL WHEN THEY BREAK AND HIT THE HEAD.
It’s like watching flight of the conchords but educational and no musical interludes. 👍
Sounded like a double release 😂
Almost like Colin Furze's homemade hydraulicpress... Nice
Nau mai hoki mai ki Te Hydraulic Press Channel. Can't wait to see what kind of high pressure situations you get into. 👍
I've had one of these cheap presses in my shop for a while. Had the same problems you mentioned. Pretty much fed up with it and will be looking for an older properly made one.
I can see where you're coming from, it does have issues. I'll persevere with mine for now
@@MartyT Don't get me wrong. I've done a lot of work with the one I have. Just ready for an upgrade that's all.
..good buy, nice find....stay safe...
You get all the cools toys mate! LOL
I have a very similar press, its better than nothing but not the best for sure. The looseness in the ram and table cause a lot of problems and when you have a lot of pressure on it, they tend to deflect at the worst possible time. I've thought about adding some plastic shims to take up the space but haven't got around to it yet.
You can make modifications to it and make it better than what the factory does
Safety squints, always keep those handy.
usually welding those contraptions solid helps a lot to cope with flexing, but with a day to spare, you can pretty easily build a better design from scrap steel.