As soon as I see the return address as Darlington, and mine are addressed to THE LEGAL OCCUPIER even though we've been here for 20 years I don't even open it - just blot out the address and write RETURN TO SENDER on the front with an arrow pointing to the return address.
@Ryanjoned163 I got one the day I moved at my old address,😂 good luck with coming round to my old house, it was demolished a few weeks later, got one for here , the house had been empty 5 months, they were supposed to come out on a designated day in October. They didn't show up, no surprise there, I wish they had I could have told them to foxtrot off. Still waiting. It's just harassment. 😂
I’m a postie and I spread the word as much as I can the sad thing is most people are brainwashed and so many think if you have a tv then you need a licence especially the older folk
As a postman myself, another top tip for the viewers here as Christmas is fast approaching. USE SECOND HAND POSTAGE STAMPS FOR ANY CARDS YOU SEND. Will save you money.
@jfdomega7938 When you buy stamps, you either get first or second class. I mean just purchase second class stamps for all your Christmas cards and at any other time. People assume that putting a first class stamp on a card or letter will arrive faster. It doesn't. All mail received is treated the same. I should know, I work at Royal Mail.
Stopped paying for the tv licence 6 wks ago, thanks to your channel. Already had two letters and a goon visit. Ignored the goon and letters went in the bin.
Just got my Christmas letter yesterday in its red envelope. Its so nice to be remembered at Christmas, binned it as usual without opening. Happy New year TVL.
@ oh I know, but they have been after me to buy a licence for 11 years now. I would rather have the money to actually buy a tv though I would rather spend the money on heating my humble home.
It took the bbc 3 months to change my monthly letter from my name to legal occupier. The last one was red and had a window saying they would be visiting me on 13th Dec but nobody came. I'm glad you open them as I don't, they just get filled to eventually go on the log burner unopened.
I gave up my tv licence 4 years ago now every time these letters come through my letter box I don’t even bother opening the letters I just put them in my shedder and just totally ignore them if they knock at my door I just don’t answer it and go about my business and really that’s all you need to do just ignore the letters and ignore the knocks at the door what you do within your own property is your business and not that of anyone else’s
When will it end? Who cares? I don't watch any live TV, rarely if ever get a visit since the divoc, don't speak to them if they do, and bin the letters. Costing them more than it's costing me. Job done
What gets me is why does the BBC have a database of all properties in the UK. It's a media company! Do Netflix have this data, no only for their subscribers. ITV? Nope and yet the BBC have the address of every domestic property in the UK. It's outrageous. By the way I don't have a licence and use the letters to help light my woodburner.
In the ten years my wife and I have lived in our house (from new) we've had these various letters monthly. Three were already there when we moved into our newly built house. The wording and various tricks they play is pathetic. Especially that weird code they use on some of them.
Oh, I got that first one a couple of months ago. Really ticks me off that they make the claim that I am breaking the Communications Act 2003. I AM NOT AND I NEVER HAVE DONE. Not for over 40 years.
I have a pile, about 1 inch thick of unopened letters from TV licensing. I have no desire to use the service of a corporation prepared to send me threatening letters.
It won’t be long before you get a red one. But….you only get them every so often. So don’t get too excited. I suppose you could frame it. Here’s a thing, if you live in Wales you get two letters in one envelope. One in Welsh and one in English. So shreddie gets main course and dessert. 😅
I received a letter posted by a goon it said 'Don't ignore this letter'. So Ignored it and binned it. They have no legal meaning whatsoever. And you are not in a legal process. It's all meaningless and BS.
*Another great and informative video Jon. As someone born and living in Wales I know exactly what you were thinking when you said that you dispute what CAN be watched on BBC iPlayer WITHOUT a licence! Perhaps you could do a video on that subject, as I'm confused and TV licencing won't or can't give me an answer. Keep up the good work.*
Received my 7th monthly letter last week.....in a brown envelope with will you be in on the 4th of December printed on the outside. In the letter it states "you will be visited on or around the 4th of December"! 😮😊
TV Licensing were slow to refund me on 2 licenses on former holiday homes so I issued a CC claim. They failed to file a defence and I obtained judgment for the licence fees, costs and interest. They tried to BS me to begin with in response but, I said the Bailiffs would call to collect. They paid up. Always sue, easy online. RACK UP THEIR COSTS !
I’ve had a few of them letters. I’ve had a few saying that they’re gonna come round on a certain day and never do. I’ve got one now saying they’re coming round on the 27th of this month but I doubt that very much.
What makes me angry is that they STILL try to tell me that I need a licence for Sky and Amazon Prime... I do not watch BBC, anything live, or any sport at all whether live or not.. This time I did not get a letter, they bloody EMAILED me to ask if i had started to watch live TV....NOPE!
Knock at the door: "Hello sir, TV Licencing......Oh Hello mate! Long time!" It was my old school friend. We'd been in a band together, wrote songs together, made a record, eventually parted ways. Had a lovely half an hour, drinking tea and biscuits, chillaxing, catching up. Finally, after the last biscuit and jazz woodbine was finished, he ends the reunion: "I am going to have to report you for operating a colour tv receiver without a licence" etc etc etc Same with the workers at the Dole: once a choice for people who wanted to help those in need (1970s) now, they prefer people with one eye on the balance sheet. My second interaction with TV licencing was at a time when I had sworn to NEVER WATCH TV EVER AGAIN. (It was fabulous. Four years, no telly, no cultural references....very interesting. So much of 'Culture' is just telly.) An Italian flatmate had refused to get a licence: when a "Post Man" turned up at the door, I explained that the TV belonged to a flatmate. "Can you turn it on to confirm it is colour not black and white?" "OK" "I"m reporting you for operating a television without a licence." That one' went to court....cost hundreds. Naive, maybe, but wot a bunch of fekin c&nts.
I'm expecting a letter from TV Licensing in December as according to an email I received, my no licence needed declaration "expired" - sarcastic yay! 👎
Hello You Tube occupier. We have information that you have been using this channel without a licence. As such we will be starting an investigation into this. And we are now in the last stages of our investigation.
I keep getting these letters but as I abide by the TV Licencing rules and not watch live TV I am not doing anything illegal. As for I-player I made sure that it was disabled when I bought my smart TV so they're not going to catch me with that lie!
Wouldn't it be funny if the whole debacle of TV letters was due to a messed up piece of database software and everybody was acting with good intentions. Laugh? I'd piss myself.
My latest letter informs me that I can expect a visit from one of their "Officers". As they are actually salespersons can they be prosecuted under the Trades Description Act?
I used to get all the usual letters from TVL, then several years ago I sent a form back (with my name, as for decades I was also 'Legal Occupier') to say "no thanks I don't need one". I don't even have an aerial up on the chimney! Since then I've had no 'visits', and I only get one letter every 2 years asking me to go online and confirm 'no change', which I do, and that's it!
Got another a couple of days ago, it averages one per month. Why do they insist on knowing the name of the occupier, when it's the property that's licenced and not the individual.
My last letter said that as there was no tv licence registered at my address an operative could pop round and help me sort out the matter, you know the licence I don’t have and more importantly don’t need. Needless to say I don’t want their help and recycled the letter.
My previous neighbour told me she(what a surprise) was fined around £900. She was expecting her next one to be free, that was a mistake. I can’t forget nor forgive the hassle and expense to return my payments, that they lost. How could they loose them when a computer issues the receipts? It can’t have just been mine. TBH i can hardly abide their radio offerings. RUclips is marvellous in comparison, no need to pay for dumbed down propaganda.
I stopped paying a month ago, I've had two letters already, I did do a don't need deceleration but that was just to keep the letters down, but I don't think it will tbh lmao 🤣. I don't care if they come round nobody in this house will speak to the goons. 🛑
I signed something when I was younger. I didn't know the tvl expired was living with my mum. I opened the door, spoke to the man and signed something. I remember crying in court and told by the judge to gather myself. Judge ask me how much I was earning. I was doing part time work and going college. I was not older than 19. Use to pay it know I don't. Second visit was a few days ago. Yes I opened the door and heard tvl and said have good day then I closed the door. Don't answer any questions.
I recieved one of these letters, after many addressed to "the Legal Occupier", with my name on instead of "the legal Occupier". The next one again had my name on it. I put "return to sender, unwanted junk mail, harrassmemt". Since then, they have reverted back to "the Legal Occupier"
After seeing your channel I stopped paying the TV license- I have Netflix/prime/Disney plus and tend to watch Kdramas mostly (don’t judge) when I actually do watch the TV. I have had a few notices to “the Legal Occupier” and a visit. I asked who the guy was, he answered and I just said no thanks and closed the door. I have just received a notification of an impending visit - again. No worries I’m not paying the fee.
"Are you home on Nov. 27th?" demanded the latest notice from the TV licencing bods, "We may be calling on you" it continued. Well, give it your best guys, I think I am ready to tell you where to go. Oh, and they don't know my name either!
Hi Jon, I got another one this week as well. If I don't respond to them, I can expect a visit from the "law" 😮. I don't know how many times I have to tell them that I DO NOT WATCH TELEVISION. I do NOT record anything EVER. But apparently, if I watch Amazon Prime & Netflix, I am obliged to buy a license. I've lived at this address for over 10 years!!!
Chilli,, i received a letter from TVL yesterday, addressed to "the legal occupier", informing me that the investigation has been suspended for 10 days.. and then in red bold.. to give me the "opportunity to get correctly licensed".. as i hadnt contacted them at their demand.. because.. according to them.. not needing a license.. is 'incorrectly licensed'..
It will never end until the system changes...I've been getting letters regularly for years and years and I haven't had a television for over 25 years....I think they've started about 100 investigations into my activities...I did have a visit once but he just dropped a visit card through the letterbox without even bothering to knock on the door.....The reason I get the letters can only be because this address doesn't show as being a licensed address which automatically makes me a suspect....
Im at the 'we will come to your house' point - months ago when I phoned them to say why I haven't watched BBC for years I said - I HOPE THIS IS RECORDED - then I listed ALL the reasons why I don't trust them - still getting threatening letters though
I actually had someone from tv licencing come to my flat today, thankfully they just fuqqed off after I said no thank you but they sure didnt seem very "polite" especially as I am disabled and wheelchair bound, living in a known area for either the elderly or disabled.
What would happen if you posted the letter back marked 'Return to sender'. Do they have to pay the postage again. I am fed up with the litter and the wasted postage paid for by license payers......
For some reason the BBC/TV Licencing/Crapita get a special dispensation from Royal Mail and don't have to pay for returned letters. They get sent to a clearing address where they are pulped for recycling or burnt.
When i read mine i got as far as reading what was int he red box and nowhere in it did it say in this box that i HAD to tell them i don't need a licence. So i did nothing and threw it away. I'm soooooo scared.
My latest letter informs me that I can expect a visit from one of their "Officers" .As they are actually salespersons can they be prosecuted under the Trades Description Act.
, if you call the bbc, or write to them demanding an apology for trespass because they ignore your letter refuting their implied right of access,they have the police visit you because you are harrowing them, so my question is can you charge them with harassment.
Hi Jon, The law seems to contradict itself, regarding BBC iPlayer: 'You need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device as they're broadcast, and to watch on-demand BBC programmes on iPlayer' and then it says: 'You need a TV Licence if you: o watch or record live TV on any channel or service o use BBC iPlayer' Nothing about S4C anymore.
Everyone who receives these letters on say... more than 3 occasions should send them to the Police. Declaring they are causing alarm and distress. Imagine the amount of post the Police would receive!
I thought I'd gotten a christmas card. Red envelope. Half opened it and saw the words, 'how to avoid.....' I ripped it up and put it where it was begging to go, in the bin.
I haven't had a red letter yet but had one threatening they are coming to the house and checking one me. Let them waste their time I say. I'm thinking of sending it back with a pop-up middle finger.
I got the exact same letter about two weeks ago, I wasn't going to bother opening it until I just watched the video. I get a letter every month and I assume they are just going around in circle as most of the ones I have bothered to open I've had before but this one is a little different. They can keep sending them and I'll keep ignoring them apart from writing the month and year on the front, I'd hate to miss one incase there's a prize for getting the full set. 🤣🤣🤣
I think it's very generous of the BBC/TVL to send me an A4 sheet of free emergency toilet paper every month. The only downside is the print can rub off and end up staining one's underpants...
I've been receiving letters from Licensing (about 8 to date) the latest asks if I'll be in on a certain date., next they'll be giving me a questionnaire asking me to tick the boxes of favourite current BBC output :)
I would love you too make some stickers with your channel logo on so we can stick them up next to our doorbells . I would definitely be interested in buying one. Great videoe keep up the good work :)
According to Article 21 of the General Data Protection Regulation, individuals have an absolute right to stop their data being used for direct marketing. Because "The Legal Occupier" is in fact you, regardless of the fact that they don't know the legal occupier's name. This combined with your address IS your personal information. And they are using this information to send you direct marketing material. They are therefore legally obliged to stop sending you direct marketing material if you write to them from "The legal occupier" at your address, telling them to stop sending "The legal occupier" stuff! The fact that they are still sending direct marketing to a uniquely identifiable person, ie.. The legal occupier specifically at your address, should make no difference, because that person is still you!
We could always send the letters to the BBC directly with no postage paid, that will really get on their nerves. Address them to Tim Davie personally, he might think they are Christmas Cards, Seasons Greetings Tim.😂
They can't use the name on your doorbell because you've not given consent for them to store that data In their system. There are other justifications for using data but they would not fly in this situation. This raises an interesting point. Can we use our right to erasure to get ourselves off this list? Maybe one for BBB.
Sadly, despite having a letter mentioning 24th November as a day of special - albeit vague - significance, nothing at all connected to TV Licensing happened to me on that day. The letter's only purpose would seem to be harassment.
I cancelled my TV licence direct debit February 2023, after about 6 weeks I had a guy knock on my door & hand delivered this letter, my wife being a bit panicky told me I had to set the DD back up, early this year my brother told me about cancelling the TV Licence on line, so I did it online, cancelled the license properly, cancelled my my DD again, approx 2 weeks of the form completion I received an email confirmation that the license was now cancelled & I received an £88 refund, so since March 2024 I'm happy to say, no TV licence 😁👍
Got one of these yesterday. As soon as I read "Please read carefully" I ripped it up and threw it in the bin. Harresment, that's what it is.
@@briankearney1619 I keep all mine as evidence for harassment . That’s if I ever decide to give them some grief . 🤣
Send all the TV licence letters to the police as harassment. Easy.
As soon as I see the return address as Darlington, and mine are addressed to THE LEGAL OCCUPIER even though we've been here for 20 years I don't even open it - just blot out the address and write RETURN TO SENDER on the front with an arrow pointing to the return address.
@@Mog435 same here
Day 15 for me of not paying for my tv licence anymore thanks to you john and you're information regarding the tv licence...F THE BBC ❤
Over 10 years for me. Trust me, nothing happens. The 'next stage of the investigation' is just another gibberish letter. It's hilarious.
I'm moving soon anyway 😂😂😂
@Ryanjoned163 I got one the day I moved at my old address,😂 good luck with coming round to my old house, it was demolished a few weeks later, got one for here , the house had been empty 5 months, they were supposed to come out on a designated day in October. They didn't show up, no surprise there, I wish they had I could have told them to foxtrot off. Still waiting. It's just harassment. 😂
Five years for me 🎉
Stopping watching the BBC, is like giving up smoking. Soon just being near someone's tv, when they're watching the BBC, will make you feel sick.
Why on earth are people still paying for this shit
I’m a postie and I spread the word as much as I can the sad thing is most people are brainwashed and so many think if you have a tv then you need a licence especially the older folk
As a postman myself, another top tip for the viewers here as Christmas is fast approaching. USE SECOND HAND POSTAGE STAMPS FOR ANY CARDS YOU SEND. Will save you money.
Good work. I'm old, but fortunately when I was born I inherited my father's brain. Thanks Dad❤
@@stuartbrown8259 what do you mean second hand postage stamps, used? TIA.
@jfdomega7938 When you buy stamps, you either get first or second class. I mean just purchase second class stamps for all your Christmas cards and at any other time. People assume that putting a first class stamp on a card or letter will arrive faster. It doesn't. All mail received is treated the same. I should know, I work at Royal Mail.
Stopped paying for the tv licence 6 wks ago, thanks to your channel. Already had two letters and a goon visit. Ignored the goon and letters went in the bin.
Nice
Just got my Christmas letter yesterday in its red envelope. Its so nice to be remembered at Christmas, binned it as usual without opening. Happy New year TVL.
You are so lucky to get a red one. I'm colour blind so I don't know if I have had one or not.
@ oh I know, but they have been after me to buy a licence for 11 years now. I would rather have the money to actually buy a tv though I would rather spend the money on heating my humble home.
That’s not fair. I’m jealous, my envelope was a boring white one. Hurumph. 😢🤣😂
Don't BIN them, they make EXCELLENT firelighters !
I had a red one again this month, this is because I'm special see. It makes me feel so wanted. Sort of a love letter really. Just feel the love guys.
Makes me feel so wanted. Pmsl!
I usually get a red one around St Valentines day!
Can you watch sky if it’s only on catch up
Thought I'd received a christmas card. So disappointed!
keep up the good fight 👋
They go straight into the shredder as soon as I get them these days.
I’m saving mine as a source of hilarity for future gatherings
I’m saving them too. If i put them into the recycling it’ll only make it cheaper for them.
It NEVER ends. I wish they'd turn up so I could let them know I don't need one........
Noooo, dont speak to them at all, zero, nada , nothing...dont even open the door to them.
It took the bbc 3 months to change my monthly letter from my name to legal occupier.
The last one was red and had a window saying they would be visiting me on 13th Dec but nobody came.
I'm glad you open them as I don't, they just get filled to eventually go on the log burner unopened.
I gave up my tv licence 4 years ago now every time these letters come through my letter box I don’t even bother opening the letters I just put them in my shedder and just totally ignore them if they knock at my door I just don’t answer it and go about my business and really that’s all you need to do just ignore the letters and ignore the knocks at the door what you do within your own property is your business and not that of anyone else’s
When will it end? Who cares? I don't watch any live TV, rarely if ever get a visit since the divoc, don't speak to them if they do, and bin the letters. Costing them more than it's costing me. Job done
What gets me is why does the BBC have a database of all properties in the UK. It's a media company! Do Netflix have this data, no only for their subscribers. ITV? Nope and yet the BBC have the address of every domestic property in the UK. It's outrageous. By the way I don't have a licence and use the letters to help light my woodburner.
Because they are part of the BIG corruption and ENEMY to the people.
I got the red envelope letter this morning but like every other one those muppets send it went straight in the fire😁😂
In the ten years my wife and I have lived in our house (from new) we've had these various letters monthly. Three were already there when we moved into our newly built house.
The wording and various tricks they play is pathetic. Especially that weird code they use on some of them.
Oh, I got that first one a couple of months ago.
Really ticks me off that they make the claim that I am breaking the Communications Act 2003.
I AM NOT AND I NEVER HAVE DONE. Not for over 40 years.
I have a pile, about 1 inch thick of unopened letters from TV licensing.
I have no desire to use the service of a corporation prepared to send me threatening letters.
Ive got a stack of letters like the yellow pages🤣🤣still collecting them, not sure what to do with them yet🤔 ive got some good ideas though🤣👍🏻
Think you can get some ointment for the first line 😂.....😊
I'm quite jealous...haven't had my red letter yet...must be a touch of favouritism!...😂😂....
You must be hard core to get the red letter treatment. You are still an apprentice, but, with time you will be part of the club massive. Kind regards.
@kevinthegerbil2708 Yep...I'm only a year in so far...No going back now either...All the best.....
It won’t be long before you get a red one. But….you only get them every so often. So don’t get too excited. I suppose you could frame it. Here’s a thing, if you live in Wales you get two letters in one envelope. One in Welsh and one in English. So shreddie gets main course and dessert. 😅
@@beccabbea2511 👍🤣🤣...
Jon doing the lords work as usual!
I received a letter posted by a goon it said 'Don't ignore this letter'. So Ignored it and binned it. They have no legal meaning whatsoever. And you are not in a legal process. It's all meaningless and BS.
The ‘No Licence Needed’ declaration now lasts a year, in my experience when I renewed mine. Your mileage may vary though.
I had quite a lot of letters and even a visit earlier this year, but over last 3-4 months just 1 letter. I'm feeling ignored!😥
I know how you feel. One month we didn’t get one and I felt so left out and unwanted. 🥺 It was so unfair shreddie had to go hungry that month. Sigh.
*Another great and informative video Jon. As someone born and living in Wales I know exactly what you were thinking when you said that you dispute what CAN be watched on BBC iPlayer WITHOUT a licence! Perhaps you could do a video on that subject, as I'm confused and TV licencing won't or can't give me an answer. Keep up the good work.*
Received my 7th monthly letter last week.....in a brown envelope with will you be in on the 4th of December printed on the outside. In the letter it states "you will be visited on or around the 4th of December"! 😮😊
TV Licensing were slow to refund me on 2 licenses on former holiday homes so I issued a CC claim. They failed to file a defence and I obtained judgment for the licence fees, costs and interest. They tried to BS me to begin with in response but, I said the Bailiffs would call to collect. They paid up. Always sue, easy online. RACK UP THEIR COSTS !
I’ve had a few of them letters. I’ve had a few saying that they’re gonna come round on a certain day and never do. I’ve got one now saying they’re coming round on the 27th of this month but I doubt that very much.
I'm the same joanne, I can't wait for them to show up, I've been waiting to meet them for years.😂
Letter box to bin in one move .not opened one in a long time .
Just send back, occupier not known at the address !
What makes me angry is that they STILL try to tell me that I need a licence for Sky and Amazon Prime...
I do not watch BBC, anything live, or any sport at all whether live or not..
This time I did not get a letter, they bloody EMAILED me to ask if i had started to watch live TV....NOPE!
Knock at the door:
"Hello sir, TV Licencing......Oh Hello mate! Long time!"
It was my old school friend.
We'd been in a band together, wrote songs together, made a record, eventually parted ways.
Had a lovely half an hour, drinking tea and biscuits, chillaxing, catching up.
Finally, after the last biscuit and jazz woodbine was finished, he ends the reunion:
"I am going to have to report you for operating a colour tv receiver without a licence" etc etc etc
Same with the workers at the Dole: once a choice for people who wanted to help those in need (1970s) now, they prefer people with one eye on the balance sheet.
My second interaction with TV licencing was at a time when I had sworn to NEVER WATCH TV EVER AGAIN.
(It was fabulous. Four years, no telly, no cultural references....very interesting. So much of 'Culture' is just telly.)
An Italian flatmate had refused to get a licence: when a "Post Man" turned up at the door, I explained that the TV belonged to a flatmate.
"Can you turn it on to confirm it is colour not black and white?"
"OK"
"I"m reporting you for operating a television without a licence."
That one' went to court....cost hundreds.
Naive, maybe, but wot a bunch of fekin c&nts.
Sometimes I sit in the freezer in asda and pretend to be a lost penguin 🐧 in the north pole 😊
Does it soothe the farmers?
😂😂😂😂 Does it help?
I'm expecting a letter from TV Licensing in December as according to an email I received, my no licence needed declaration "expired" - sarcastic yay! 👎
What about your firearm's licence status? 🤣
Can you not collect a few of these letters then take them to court for harassment. And get a restraining order.
Hello You Tube occupier. We have information that you have been using this channel without a licence. As such we will be starting an investigation into this. And we are now in the last stages of our investigation.
I keep getting these letters but as I abide by the TV Licencing rules and not watch live TV I am not doing anything illegal. As for I-player I made sure that it was disabled when I bought my smart TV so they're not going to catch me with that lie!
My last letter was giving me a ten day window to get licensed . 😂
Wouldn't it be funny if the whole debacle of TV letters was due to a messed up piece of database software and everybody was acting with good intentions. Laugh? I'd piss myself.
Had 17 nasty letters now what a joke
over 120 for me and counting
What a waste of paper 😂😂😂@@MikeEves
I have had two now!🤬
My latest letter informs me that I can expect a visit from one of their "Officers". As they are actually salespersons can they be prosecuted under the Trades Description Act?
I used to get all the usual letters from TVL, then several years ago I sent a form back (with my name, as for decades I was also 'Legal Occupier') to say "no thanks I don't need one". I don't even have an aerial up on the chimney! Since then I've had no 'visits', and I only get one letter every 2 years asking me to go online and confirm 'no change', which I do, and that's it!
The Communication Act 2003 doesn’t mention BBC iPlayer so the letter is factually inaccurate. Best to send it to BBC FactCheck.
It doesn't mention it by name, but it does mention it.
Got another a couple of days ago, it averages one per month. Why do they insist on knowing the name of the occupier, when it's the property that's licenced and not the individual.
I have saved all my letters to remind me what a lot it's costing bbc.
And to show their enforcement officer the harassment they are causing me
My last letter said that as there was no tv licence registered at my address an operative could pop round and help me sort out the matter, you know the licence I don’t have and more importantly don’t need.
Needless to say I don’t want their help and recycled the letter.
Thanks to your sound advice, I stopped paying for the licence 8 months ago. No letters or visits from goons.
Yes Monday was red letter day again.
My previous neighbour told me she(what a surprise) was fined around £900. She was expecting her next one to be free, that was a mistake.
I can’t forget nor forgive the hassle and expense to return my payments, that they lost. How could they loose them when a computer issues the receipts? It can’t have just been mine.
TBH i can hardly abide their radio offerings. RUclips is marvellous in comparison, no need to pay for dumbed down propaganda.
I stopped paying a month ago, I've had two letters already, I did do a don't need deceleration but that was just to keep the letters down, but I don't think it will tbh lmao 🤣. I don't care if they come round nobody in this house will speak to the goons. 🛑
I signed something when I was younger. I didn't know the tvl expired was living with my mum. I opened the door, spoke to the man and signed something. I remember crying in court and told by the judge to gather myself. Judge ask me how much I was earning. I was doing part time work and going college. I was not older than 19. Use to pay it know I don't. Second visit was a few days ago. Yes I opened the door and heard tvl and said have good day then I closed the door. Don't answer any questions.
I'd be curious to know what their postage costs are - do they get reduced rates ?
I'd mine last week ..... I'm glad to know my status as Legal Occupier is "Under Investigation".
I recieved one of these letters, after many addressed to "the Legal Occupier", with my name on instead of "the legal Occupier". The next one again had my name on it. I put "return to sender, unwanted junk mail, harrassmemt". Since then, they have reverted back to "the Legal Occupier"
After seeing your channel I stopped paying the TV license- I have Netflix/prime/Disney plus and tend to watch Kdramas mostly (don’t judge) when I actually do watch the TV. I have had a few notices to “the Legal Occupier” and a visit. I asked who the guy was, he answered and I just said no thanks and closed the door. I have just received a notification of an impending visit - again. No worries I’m not paying the fee.
"Are you home on Nov. 27th?" demanded the latest notice from the TV licencing bods, "We may be calling on you" it continued. Well, give it your best guys, I think I am ready to tell you where to go. Oh, and they don't know my name either!
Hi Jon, I got another one this week as well. If I don't respond to them, I can expect a visit from the "law" 😮. I don't know how many times I have to tell them that I DO NOT WATCH TELEVISION. I do NOT record anything EVER. But apparently, if I watch Amazon Prime & Netflix, I am obliged to buy a license. I've lived at this address for over 10 years!!!
Would those letters stop if you signed up for the no junk mail register?
No!
Chilli,,
i received a letter from TVL yesterday, addressed to "the legal occupier", informing me that the investigation has been suspended for 10 days..
and then in red bold.. to give me the "opportunity to get correctly licensed".. as i hadnt contacted them at their demand..
because.. according to them.. not needing a license.. is 'incorrectly licensed'..
ive advised i dont require a license for around 4 years and have not once received a visit to my knowledge
It will never end until the system changes...I've been getting letters regularly for years and years and I haven't had a television for over 25 years....I think they've started about 100 investigations into my activities...I did have a visit once but he just dropped a visit card through the letterbox without even bothering to knock on the door.....The reason I get the letters can only be because this address doesn't show as being a licensed address which automatically makes me a suspect....
Im at the 'we will come to your house' point - months ago when I phoned them to say why I haven't watched BBC for years I said - I HOPE THIS IS RECORDED - then I listed ALL the reasons why I don't trust them - still getting threatening letters though
I actually had someone from tv licencing come to my flat today, thankfully they just fuqqed off after I said no thank you but they sure didnt seem very "polite" especially as I am disabled and wheelchair bound, living in a known area for either the elderly or disabled.
I had a " ten day window" letter on Saturday, so I'm now under some investigation, " again". Been tv licence free for nearly 1 year now,.
What would happen if you posted the letter back marked 'Return to sender'. Do they have to pay the postage again. I am fed up with the litter and the wasted postage paid for by license payers......
For some reason the BBC/TV Licencing/Crapita get a special dispensation from Royal Mail and don't have to pay for returned letters. They get sent to a clearing address where they are pulped for recycling or burnt.
mine go in the bin thanks too you several years ago thankyou so much for info
I'm under the 'final investigation' stage apparently.
Plonkers don't even know my name though 🙄
Haha! The net is closing in! Good luck 👍
You must be on the same mailing list as me, I get the same letter as you within a days of you getting your one.
When i read mine i got as far as reading what was int he red box and nowhere in it did it say in this box that i HAD to tell them i don't need a licence. So i did nothing and threw it away. I'm soooooo scared.
Dear me I’m so glad I don’t get all these
My latest letter informs me that I can expect a visit from one of their "Officers" .As they are actually salespersons can they be prosecuted under the Trades Description Act.
Oddly enough, I've not had any of these for quite a while. I've been ignoring them for years.
{:o:O:}
, if you call the bbc, or write to them demanding an apology for trespass because they ignore your letter refuting their implied right of access,they have the police visit you because you are harrowing them, so my question is can you charge them with harassment.
Thank you
Hi Jon,
The law seems to contradict itself, regarding BBC iPlayer:
'You need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device as they're broadcast, and to watch on-demand BBC programmes on iPlayer'
and then it says:
'You need a TV Licence if you:
o watch or record live TV on any channel or service
o use BBC iPlayer'
Nothing about S4C anymore.
I get one every month. They get binned unopened.
Everyone who receives these letters on say... more than 3 occasions should send them to the Police. Declaring they are causing alarm and distress. Imagine the amount of post the Police would receive!
"When will it end?"
"It ends when we've won!" (Noah Vosen)
Great work yes same bull ship they say back letter till you get Red one which got now
I thought I'd gotten a christmas card. Red envelope. Half opened it and saw the words, 'how to avoid.....' I ripped it up and put it where it was begging to go, in the bin.
I haven't had a red letter yet but had one threatening they are coming to the house and checking one me. Let them waste their time I say. I'm thinking of sending it back with a pop-up middle finger.
got one yesterday ...put it with the rest.. i don't bother to open them any more 👍
Omg we must be on the same cycle I got this last week. I moved here January 2023 think this is the 1st one of these I had
I got the exact same letter about two weeks ago, I wasn't going to bother opening it until I just watched the video. I get a letter every month and I assume they are just going around in circle as most of the ones I have bothered to open I've had before but this one is a little different. They can keep sending them and I'll keep ignoring them apart from writing the month and year on the front, I'd hate to miss one incase there's a prize for getting the full set. 🤣🤣🤣
I think it's very generous of the BBC/TVL to send me an A4 sheet of free emergency toilet paper every month.
The only downside is the print can rub off and end up staining one's underpants...
Why don't Amazon Netflix Itv channel 5 sue the BBC
I wonder how much all these letters cost 😂
I was just thinking about that myself.
I've been receiving letters from Licensing (about 8 to date) the latest asks if I'll be in on a certain date., next they'll be giving me a questionnaire asking me to tick the boxes of favourite current BBC output :)
I've not paid the TV tax for 8 years. I don't have a TV and I don't watch live TV or use iplayer so there's no need to pay it. RUclips is my go to.
you like the ads
I would love you too make some stickers with your channel logo on so we can stick them up next to our doorbells . I would definitely be interested in buying one. Great videoe keep up the good work :)
Great idea!👍
According to Article 21 of the General Data Protection Regulation, individuals have an absolute right to stop their data being used for direct marketing. Because "The Legal Occupier" is in fact you, regardless of the fact that they don't know the legal occupier's name. This combined with your address IS your personal information. And they are using this information to send you direct marketing material. They are therefore legally obliged to stop sending you direct marketing material if you write to them from "The legal occupier" at your address, telling them to stop sending "The legal occupier" stuff! The fact that they are still sending direct marketing to a uniquely identifiable person, ie.. The legal occupier specifically at your address, should make no difference, because that person is still you!
We could always send the letters to the BBC directly with no postage paid, that will really get on their nerves.
Address them to Tim Davie personally, he might think they are Christmas Cards,
Seasons Greetings Tim.😂
I reckon you haven't had a visit because the "Cambridge Enforcement Team" simply can't find you with their 20 year old A-Z's they are using 😂
I just send my letters back saying not at this address even though it says the occupier.
They can't use the name on your doorbell because you've not given consent for them to store that data In their system. There are other justifications for using data but they would not fly in this situation. This raises an interesting point. Can we use our right to erasure to get ourselves off this list? Maybe one for BBB.
One of these days one of the you tube auditors will do an audit on capita
Looking forward to seeing that
Sadly, despite having a letter mentioning 24th November as a day of special - albeit vague - significance, nothing at all connected to TV Licensing happened to me on that day. The letter's only purpose would seem to be harassment.
I’ve requested that they cease transmitting their signal onto my private property but am yet to receive a response .
I have one like that
I cancelled my TV licence direct debit February 2023, after about 6 weeks I had a guy knock on my door & hand delivered this letter, my wife being a bit panicky told me I had to set the DD back up, early this year my brother told me about cancelling the TV Licence on line, so I did it online, cancelled the license properly, cancelled my my DD again, approx 2 weeks of the form completion I received an email confirmation that the license was now cancelled & I received an £88 refund, so since March 2024 I'm happy to say, no TV licence 😁👍
Happily licence-free for nearly four years😊.