Let’s have a chat about these two idiotic girls who were caught smuggling substances in to a music festival. Should they have gone to prion for it? Source - www.thesun.co....
The judiciary in this country are a joke. Love to see their search history and hard drive on their PCs and laptops. No "noncery" to be found there! This shite and those who sentenced the "mean tweets" posts, and the filth who found Tomy Robinson guilty of "libel" even though he had evidence tht the Arab kid who tormented teachers and beat iup other kids.
@@tonybrett5209very long sentences too - not forgetting the awful crime of printing stickers - while those released early for serious crimes are whisked away in a mate's fast car.
*And yet, back in August of this year a man was jailed for 20 months for playing a "prominent role in trying to goad police, and had aggressively shouted at a police dog". The law really is an ass.*
Yes, lucky for them they weren't guilty of a mean tweet. Their case would have come up much quicker and they'd still be in prison now. Not only is the law an ass. Many of our judges are puddled.
@@XENUGOLFCLUB I think they were charged pretty quickly, BUT it took 18 months to appear in court. If they were held on remand for that 18 months its equivalent to a 3 year sentence so maybe the judge was just taking time served into consideration. If they got Bail then YES that was a very lenient sentence.🤔🤔🤔🤔😢😢
No, they should not. You are a product of conditioning who can only regurgitate what you have been forcefed by the hierarchical structure of Subordination that you are dependent on.
Yes, I'm really sure that ad hoc, a load of strangers on a bus travelling to the festival all clamoured together, arranged to have them as their chosen mule. All while getting identical plastic bags all conveniently portioned up with the same drugs nicely. Yes, I'm SURE that's exactly what happened.
What’s the problem anyway? What would have been so bad if they hadn’t been caught? Some people at a music festival would have got high, which is what happens anyway
In my own experience, that ignorance is too often nowhere so troubling as from the Bench. Magistrates have a responsible job to do - but it isn't helped by delusions of grandeur. Though I was entertained some years ago by a tired magistrate who looked earnestly at his clerk, and asked "Are you absolutely positive I'm not allowed to have then tortured???"
They weren't held in custody. So there was no time served. Also there was no verdict. They pleaded guilty and indeed admitted the offence when first challenged.
I'm at 2 and a half years now! Received a letter last week, on the envelope it stated 'will you be home on the 4th of December? The letter stated that they would be sending a stasi ON or AROUND the 4th of December????? I'll be in! 😂
i got one yesterday.. saying that the investigation into my house has been suspended for 10 days so that (and this bit was in bold red text) i could "get correctly licensed".. you know.. coz.. apparently.. not needing a license is incorrectly licensed..
Smuggle as many drugs as you can and stay out of jail but say the wrong thing on social media and get put inside . Justice is ridiculous and judges are out of touch with reality.
So who were the dishonest, controlling thugs who pressured and convinced them to carry these wretched substances that any person with common sense would KNOW is wrong?
@glynnepritchard2526 I got 2 yrs Borstal just for getting a lift in a car that I didn't know was stolen. That was nearly 60 years ago and I was told by the duty solicitor that if I pleaded guilty I wouldn't have to go to crown courts and could be dealt with straight away. At that time the max sentence a magistrate could give was 6 months. What he didn't tell me was as a juvenile he COULD send me to Borstal. The really annoying thing was, the guys that actually did steal the car(and broke into a supermarket) got 6 months(out in 4 months) and I was in the same prison as them waiting to be allocated a Borstal when they were released.
Lucky for them they weren't guilty of a mean tweet. Their case would have come up much quicker and they'd still be in prison now. The law is an ass and many of our judges are puddled.
one of my daughters friends, was given something at a party she was at, thinking he could fly jumped off a bridge on the way home. one of my own school friends, took something and died both of them were 19. i have known others that have taken things and died or been hospitalized, not a smart move. the risks of bags breaking inside is very serious.
@@colinsmith7385 She drunk 7 litres of water after seeing an advisory for ravers to drink plenty of water if you're continuously dancing. Even though she was at home with her friends, and not doing any sort of excercise. The official cause of death was water intoxication. The tablet might have stopped her being able to expel any of that water though.
They were lucky to have got away with it. Guess it's the over-crowded prison excuse that the judge would have had in mind. I can understand some leniency, although would they have got away with it if they were men? Hmm.
At least they didn't send a bad taste meme, a much more serious crime in the eyes of the law. Class A drug pushing is minor to that it seems.
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Did I detect a certain tone of bigoted disdain in his voice, when mentioning that those in question were from Scotland, as opposed to their city or town, as he did when referencing Essex, punctuated by the implication that all Scottish girls in their twenties, who attend festivals, are stupid, given that he described the subjects as "particularly" stupid!?
One factor against Jail time now in the UK is, the fact of the Prisons are over crowded and there is no new Prisons being built. So where there was say a 2 person prison cell before they have now got another 3 persons in that space due to the lack of cells. A few newer prisons been built but those mainly for Terrorists only as the rules state they can't use a normal prison for terrorists. Belmarsh in Woolwich is one such Terrorist only prison. The trouble is, the Governments over the last 20 years do not wish to spend millions building new prisons so the old ones are just overfilled now! The reason so many nasty people whom should be in prison and are not or are put in and then released early is because of the overcrowding in the prisons most of which are very old and not built to house 4 or 5 times the original amount of inmates but do because of non building of new prisons.
so.. basicly.. they've done to prisons what they have done to the NHS.. they've taken 3 man cells.. and turned them into 1 man cells.. and now shouting "above capacity".. in the early 90's.. 2 or 3 man cells were common place
Absolutely agree! These two should be in prison!! It's a symptom of the two tier justice system which means women can't be sent to prison! It's so wrong!😡
Drugs need to be legalized and controlled, how much tax payer money is the country spending stopping people making their own decisions in life, not to mention the fuelling of gangs and knife/gun crime as a result, we've become a totally ludicrous nanny state? Was never like this in the past, or the last 300 000 years for that mater, just the costs of this little trial would have supported a few hard working students from deprived areas though University and given them a real change in life or given a homeless vet a place to live again totally life changing. Live and let live, support and help those who deserve it, to whom it will make a real difference with what little finances this country can afford I say.
They are 21 and 23 now, but one of them was 18 at the time, but the judge said they had to wait 18 months to get charged? I mean I guess they had a birthday the day after Creamfields 2022? 18 at the festival, 19 shortly after, if they 21 now, that's 2 years to get charged surely?
I don't understand why it took so long for the girls to be charged unless they grassed more then the chap on the coach who never got charged who. perhaps, grassed someone higher up the trafficking chain. All very odd or perhaps the judge got free stuff in exchange for the light sentences. Even stuff is subject to inflationary pressures that special offers are just too tempting.
Those Poor Sniffer 🐶 Dogs 🐶 " ere ! Stop Sniffing My Foo🐱 Foo 🐱 ! NOT Exactly The Highlight of The Dog's Day 😨 I Bet They Are Still in Trauma Therapy 😭
And yet people are being locked up for Facebook comments
For inciting racial hatred, riots and violence.
But don't let that spoil your thinking. Oh wait, 'thinking' 😂
Lol, Labour supporter then. Oh wait , your thinking 🤔 you're ashamed to admit 😮
@@tonybrett5209I suggest that you read the case data.
The judiciary in this country are a joke. Love to see their search history and hard drive on their PCs and laptops. No "noncery" to be found there! This shite and those who sentenced the "mean tweets" posts, and the filth who found Tomy Robinson guilty of "libel" even though he had evidence tht the Arab kid who tormented teachers and beat iup other kids.
@@tonybrett5209very long sentences too - not forgetting the awful crime of printing stickers - while those released early for serious crimes are whisked away in a mate's fast car.
Drug trafficking in Singapore carries a mandatory death sentence. I believe the reoffending rate is zero.
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AND cheaper for the tax payers.
For that reason, the returns are great 🤣
Bring it on here
@@alanfrost4661why?
*And yet, back in August of this year a man was jailed for 20 months for playing a "prominent role in trying to goad police, and had aggressively shouted at a police dog". The law really is an ass.*
Always has been.
Dont wanna offend the poluce dogs feelings
At least he wasn't shouting at a policemen's ass or who knows how may years he would've got.
Yes, lucky for them they weren't guilty of a mean tweet. Their case would have come up much quicker and they'd still be in prison now. Not only is the law an ass. Many of our judges are puddled.
This is what you get for surrendering your sovereignty to Government, Religion (God), and Money in exchange for lies.
Yet you can get 3 years for hurty words on social media.
As a single white man, if I'd had half the amount and bawled my eyes out in court, I'd still have gone to prison for years.
You’d have been charged within 18 hours, not 18 months
On point observation...
Prison now reserved for people who disagree with the government...
@@XENUGOLFCLUB I think they were charged pretty quickly, BUT it took 18 months to appear in court. If they were held on remand for that 18 months its equivalent to a 3 year sentence so maybe the judge was just taking time served into consideration. If they got Bail then YES that was a very lenient sentence.🤔🤔🤔🤔😢😢
so would a single black man go to prison...
...probably faster than you would.
If it had of been males the same age as the girls, the judge would have sent them down,girl always bring on the water works when they're guilty.
Yes. That form of 2 tier justice is deeply ingrained in judges heads.
Judges need to be held accountable...
The judge needs investigating PERIOD.
What were those girls selling other than bouncy powder? And was the judge buying?
Just asking.
Perhaps he was on his Period !
@@johncummins3860 don't be ignorant and silly please.
@@dianewaller5836just English humor as we don't say "period" I can assure you no offence was intended!
Yes, they should be jailed. But the prisons are too full of people who spoke their opinion. Or not got TV licences.
No, they should not. You are a product of conditioning who can only regurgitate what you have been forcefed by the hierarchical structure of Subordination that you are dependent on.
They were treated leniently because the court heard that both girls had valid TV licences. Oh, and they were cute too.
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Might have been related to them you never know🤷♀️
😂😂😂 👏👏
They knew it was wrong, hence hiding them in her growler.
The girls aren’t naive, the judge is.
Yes, I'm really sure that ad hoc, a load of strangers on a bus travelling to the festival all clamoured together, arranged to have them as their chosen mule. All while getting identical plastic bags all conveniently portioned up with the same drugs nicely.
Yes, I'm SURE that's exactly what happened.
I believe those nice sweet girls, how can you doubt it was toxic masculinity forcing their wicked ways on those innocents.
What’s the problem anyway? What would have been so bad if they hadn’t been caught? Some people at a music festival would have got high, which is what happens anyway
No fella in similar circumstances, would get away without a custodial.
Depends on the pronouns they used
What a joke!
I guess if they wrote an internet post they would be inside somewhere.
Ignorance of the law is not a excuse,well apparently it is now
In my own experience, that ignorance is too often nowhere so troubling as from the Bench. Magistrates have a responsible job to do - but it isn't helped by delusions of grandeur.
Though I was entertained some years ago by a tired magistrate who looked earnestly at his clerk, and asked "Are you absolutely positive I'm not allowed to have then tortured???"
There are all kinda of factors that get considered when determining a person’s culpability
Even better. The suspended 18 month sentence was over before the judges verdict. Time served and all.
They weren't held in custody. So there was no time served. Also there was no verdict. They pleaded guilty and indeed admitted the offence when first challenged.
If she had called the dog gay she would have got 3 years for a hate crime
'just carrying them for a friend your honour'.
Should they? They should never have seen the light of day again for years.
Yes they should be in prison, but women always get off easier in the courts and the better looking they are the softer the sentencing.
Katie Price is the epitome of that kind of justice!
@@mikehipperson Katie Price better looking you say? Better looking than what? I think your argument just collapsed!
Day 12 of not paying for my tv licence anymore thsnks you John for your information on the matter of paying the tv licence.....# F the bbc 👍
I'm at 2 and a half years now!
Received a letter last week, on the envelope it stated 'will you be home on the 4th of December?
The letter stated that they would be sending a stasi ON or AROUND the 4th of December?????
I'll be in! 😂
😂😂😂😂 turn the telly up loud so you can't hear them knocking 😂@@MarkPearce-u7m
I’ve just got a letter saying that ‘their investigation is likely to result in a fine’.
@@MarkPearce-u7m They rarely turn up so I'd go out for the day!
i got one yesterday.. saying that the investigation into my house has been suspended for 10 days so that (and this bit was in bold red text)
i could "get correctly licensed"..
you know.. coz.. apparently.. not needing a license is incorrectly licensed..
I smell something, and it's not fish off of those tablets.
Ah!!! I know!
I smell BS.
Smuggle as many drugs as you can and stay out of jail but say the wrong thing on social media and get put inside . Justice is ridiculous and judges are out of touch with reality.
i suspect the judge was under orders not to jail anyone for anything less than hurty words
Another bloody useless judge.
Probably wanted to know if they could get him some.....
Show me 1 that isn't
@@nickbutler7935 like so many of them, useless and out of touch with reality.
All judges are bent😊
Others get jailed for 2 to 3 years locked in the hoosgow for hurty words on social media.
So who were the dishonest, controlling thugs who pressured and convinced them to carry these wretched substances that any person with common sense would KNOW is wrong?
The law is an ass in this country
*What on earth has gone wrong with our Judicial System* ❓
Pathetic.. A mate of mine got 2 1/2 years for driving a car that unknown to him had drugs in it.
Surely when the chemists advertised the delivery driver job, he should have realised...?
@@MrCSutton😂😂😂😂
@glynnepritchard2526 I got 2 yrs Borstal just for getting a lift in a car that I didn't know was stolen. That was nearly 60 years ago and I was told by the duty solicitor that if I pleaded guilty I wouldn't have to go to crown courts and could be dealt with straight away. At that time the max sentence a magistrate could give was 6 months. What he didn't tell me was as a juvenile he COULD send me to Borstal. The really annoying thing was, the guys that actually did steal the car(and broke into a supermarket) got 6 months(out in 4 months) and I was in the same prison as them waiting to be allocated a Borstal when they were released.
It must of been a jolly persons outing🤣🤣🤣🤣more corrupt judges as per.
That poor dog must have chucked it's guts up after detecting THAT!
They were "beauticians" which indicates a certain protected community.
I wonder if the judge is now dating these ladies
Probably has been for 8 years
Sometimes I stand in the shed and pretend im a lawn mower
😂😂😂😂 brilliant 👍.
Mowing and brave
That was too funny 🤣🤣🤣
Or should I say that was too fanny 🤣🤣🤣
Thought so. I could tell it by the way that you walked.
Time the polotical prisoners were released .courts becoming a sick joke
Next time I get stopped for anything, I'm going to say "it was the bigger boys and then they ran away"
Good job they weren't watching a riot they'd be in jail already!
Maybe the judge had a quiet word with the defense, “ tell them to see me in chambers later”. Like my response ,its laughable
Judges son was probably the supplier
Maybe they are completing a job interview for the BBC?
Lucky for them they weren't guilty of a mean tweet. Their case would have come up much quicker and they'd still be in prison now. The law is an ass and many of our judges are puddled.
Making them take all the drugs they were carrying in one go might not make them think twice before doing it again. It would stop them doing it again.
one of my daughters friends, was given something at a party she was at, thinking he could fly jumped off a bridge on the way home. one of my own school friends, took something and died both of them were 19. i have known others that have taken things and died or been hospitalized, not a smart move.
the risks of bags breaking inside is very serious.
Free Lucy Connolly.
The judge was on the bus🙄
The wheels on this bus (country) have really come off....🤬
Leah Betts is the Essex girl you're thinking of.
Remember her picture like it was yesterday
@ indeed, a horrendous case. And never really out of the spotlight since with the interest/films about ‘The Essex Boys’ murders.
@@colinsmith7385 She drunk 7 litres of water after seeing an advisory for ravers to drink plenty of water if you're continuously dancing. Even though she was at home with her friends, and not doing any sort of excercise. The official cause of death was water intoxication. The tablet might have stopped her being able to expel any of that water though.
Rettendon murders 1995.
And justice isn't tiered! A man found with these would be jailed for a few years no excuses. Sexism is plain view
If they'd have been 2 men they'd be in priso.
The problem here is the double standard, if they were male, they would have gone to prison.
Huw Edwards will be laughing along with them tonight.
Heavier sentences for ANY drug offenses !!!! But we get more jail time for 'hurty words' 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Yet if you post 'that' in social media, and it's clearly not a criminal infraction, it's off to do your porridge, me boy/girl.
and yet people are getting done for free speech its not right this aint it just flabbergasts me im almost speechless
Bet Mommy & Daddy had big bank accounts
He called them into the chambers afterwards for a stern....spanking....errr talking too😂
And people are going to prison for speech?
They were lucky to have got away with it. Guess it's the over-crowded prison excuse that the judge would have had in mind. I can understand some leniency, although would they have got away with it if they were men? Hmm.
Could this be a sign that the legalisation of drugs is coming in the near future? Very lenient considering the were class A drugs.
Complexion for the protection.
Yep jail !
That's a slow Saturday night for me🤫
[8:30] It is clear. UK justice is based on who you are, not what you do.
If you are pressurised you need to go directly to a police station and provide the evidence to clear your name
At least they didn't send a bad taste meme, a much more serious crime in the eyes of the law. Class A drug pushing is minor to that it seems.
Did I detect a certain tone of bigoted disdain in his voice, when mentioning that those in question were from Scotland, as opposed to their city or town, as he did when referencing Essex, punctuated by the implication that all Scottish girls in their twenties, who attend festivals, are stupid, given that he described the subjects as "particularly" stupid!?
She was paid 'gash in hand'....
Back in the 90's if this was just after the Leah betts (RIP) outcry they would be guaranteed a sentence and a heavy 1 at that ... wtf.
The judge maybe getting a discount. .... favour 😍 or. Two. .. luckily not in the Philippines 😮😊
To think people fought and died for this country and this is what that sacrifice has yielded.
One factor against Jail time now in the UK is, the fact of the Prisons are over crowded and there is no new Prisons being built.
So where there was say a 2 person prison cell before they have now got another 3 persons in that space due to the lack of cells.
A few newer prisons been built but those mainly for Terrorists only as the rules state they can't use a normal prison for terrorists.
Belmarsh in Woolwich is one such Terrorist only prison.
The trouble is, the Governments over the last 20 years do not wish to spend millions building new prisons so the old ones are just overfilled now!
The reason so many nasty people whom should be in prison and are not or are put in and then released early is because of the overcrowding in the prisons most of which are very old and not built to house 4 or 5 times the original amount of inmates but do because of non building of new prisons.
so.. basicly.. they've done to prisons what they have done to the NHS..
they've taken 3 man cells.. and turned them into 1 man cells.. and now shouting "above capacity"..
in the early 90's.. 2 or 3 man cells were common place
Oh that poor sniffer dog!
Absolutely agree!
These two should be in prison!!
It's a symptom of the two tier justice system which means women can't be sent to prison!
It's so wrong!😡
Also protecting the lad who paid them to take them in who if English would be in jail.
Leah betts 1995
Had to laugh at your comment about what girls usually have stashed in there at the weekend 🤣🤣🤣
2.43g of MDMA for £400!? 😂😂
They snitched! Otherwise they'd never have slipped like this.
Drugs need to be legalized and controlled, how much tax payer money is the country spending stopping people making their own decisions in life, not to mention the fuelling of gangs and knife/gun crime as a result, we've become a totally ludicrous nanny state? Was never like this in the past, or the last 300 000 years for that mater, just the costs of this little trial would have supported a few hard working students from deprived areas though University and given them a real change in life or given a homeless vet a place to live again totally life changing. Live and let live, support and help those who deserve it, to whom it will make a real difference with what little finances this country can afford I say.
And never mind the impact of the sh*t they cut the drugs with, eh?
I honestly thought that the punchline was some of the group were H of Edds x assistants or related to a big wig 😂
I guessing that’s where the saying comes from .drawing a line from the crack.
It's a good job didn't get charged with TV license evasion, now that is a crime😅😅
Well it's a good job they did not put anything up on social media, they would have got years
Leah Betts was her name
Bad call by the judge. Very bad. No consequences. They won't be able to travel to too many country's with that conviction.
Good. At least there will be some form of long-lasting consequence.
Leah Betts, mate
The judge made a right hash of that sentenceing.
Leah Betts from Latchingdon. Can't remember the year her favourite song was Wonderwall by Oasis so it must have been between 25-30 years ago.
They grassed the occupance of the coach. Pull them all in
I wish you wouldn't make me laugh!! LoL
They are 21 and 23 now, but one of them was 18 at the time, but the judge said they had to wait 18 months to get charged? I mean I guess they had a birthday the day after Creamfields 2022? 18 at the festival, 19 shortly after, if they 21 now, that's 2 years to get charged surely?
I don't understand why it took so long for the girls to be charged unless they grassed more then the chap on the coach who never got charged who. perhaps, grassed someone higher up the trafficking chain. All very odd or perhaps the judge got free stuff in exchange for the light sentences. Even stuff is subject to inflationary pressures that special offers are just too tempting.
Yeah but they didn’t say anything hurty
What was the judge smoking,shocking
'By _the rest of_ the coach party'
Sounds a bit excessive to me.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding... all the passengers, , or just the group they were with?
Brendan was the dealer
Not really sorry Brendan.
Good job they didn’t write anything on twitter ??? What a joke
Those Poor Sniffer 🐶 Dogs 🐶
" ere ! Stop Sniffing My Foo🐱 Foo 🐱 !
NOT Exactly The Highlight of The Dog's Day 😨
I Bet They Are Still in Trauma Therapy 😭
Just saying, but if you indulge, you know you don't give your drugs away to anyone, especially all of it in two places, apparently. 👀
Neivity is a death sentence in Thailand and Singapore
Who wants to be on that coach