Tell me you are a scientist retired without telling me you’re a scientist retired … 😂 The time comparaison using mili seconds made me smile ! Hehe That was awesome btw..
Perhaps I'm too old school, as my parents taught me how to tape off, and when spray painting I use wax paper sheets cut smaller than the size of the glass pane and the I put my top line of tape and slip the wax paper under the painters tape and make sure it's even and than smooth it down and do the bottom then the sides. I was told to use the paint on masking tape by someone and I decided to look it up on line. Glad I did. It's far easier to measure, fold and cut wax paper with a very sharp blade when doing a door with that many lites. Once I decide to remove it I get clean lines, almost never any touch up, unless I went drinking the night before, and no mess. I even use aluminum foil with painters tape to wrap around pipes or other protrusions that I don't want to get paint on. Tenants always leave stuff behind and considering how much cleaning I have to do in their units I am not using their foil near my food so I found an alternate use for that as well.
Great video presentation for this product- we're using it now blacking out storefronts and our whole crew watched your work here beforehand- good job sir, thank you
Thank you so much for pointing out that this isn't comparable with certain Sherwin Williams paints, which is exactly what I was about to paint with. The SW store confirmed that my paint, an even harder drying type, would not work with this! Even though it's in red on the Jasco label, I hadn't read it, so you saved me a huge mistake on a new front door.
Great. Make sure to read the instructions! I had a comment on a person who didn't and things didn't go well. The paint on that project is still holding strong. Thank you for watching and good luck on your project.
I used this on an exterior with 80 wood windows. We put it on with a mini roller and it was pretty easy but it seemed like you had to wait till the next day or atleast later in the afternoon for it to dry properly. Also we noticed that if it got damp out or very humid it would re wet and you had to wait it out again. Another time we used inside on French doors and had a hard time getting the film to peal off
Yeah they said on the can to wait 24hrs I believe before painting. I too found that it will re-wet and you have to let it dry again. I had no issues with it peeling off but I haven't used it inside, not yet anyway. Thanks for watching.
For the "nothing" panes it would only take a few minutes to cut paper mask rectangles about half an inch smaller than the pane on all sides. Put a piece of looped or double side tape to hold them down and in place while spraying. That'll substantially reduce the amount of paint that needs scored/scraped off.
If your spraying 2 coats Latex Paint It should peel off the Glass without any masking just as easy as the brush on sealer You should wet the surface to be peeled with a wet rag This will cause it to peel off without effort
I appreciate the video and the proper thinking/research you did to compare methods. I may give this a try. Do you have any idea how the liquid masking would do with wood staining?
What kind of primer did you use? I've tried with BIN (shellac base) and it didn't go well. Even with a thick coat of liquid masking, the bin primer got really good in the glasses and it was a nightmare to clean.
It says on the can I got not to use with primers with solvents in it and that may be why it didn't work for you. I used a sherwin williams water based primer. Thanks for watching.
@@OakleysDIYHomeRenovation101 When the list on a container of what not to use it on or with is that long I go back to my what I'm comfortable with. I don't want a product that I have to stop and think will it damage this or that or will it take me twice or three times as long and require more touch ups if the product I'm using doesn't "work" with the new product I don't use the new product until the work out the kinks.
If once the liquid mask has dried, if you run around with your blade and peel off any residue on the wood/plastic before painting then repeat after painting, just wondering if this would provide a cleaner finish
I worried about that also especially since I had "plastic/PVC" frame around the windows. That is why I painted it on and tried to not get much on the plastic/PVC. So far I have had no issues with that and it has been 7mo since I did it. Thanks for watching.
Watching this made me literally go paint windows with Elmer's glue. Ill let you know if it does anything similar.. I was going to give this product a shot but 30 bucks for a small can is insane to me, compared to using a scraping knife.
I appreciate your effort to show different techniques. Your results look good, spray job is nice and even. I can see where a DIY homeowner may be drawn to liquid masking. These removable mastic masking products have a place, but as a professional painter/restorer- I don't think this is a great idea for exterior painting. I wouldn't use it on my own place, at least not outside. I understand you are working on a covered patio with probably little exposure, and you may never have issues. However, any amount, even if tiny, of an easily peelable film that makes it onto the painted surface is prohibiting paint from bonding, especially at the pane bottoms where water collects, is asking to fail. Paint bond failure = blistering, UV/water exposure, rot if wood. In all honesty, a professional would never use this because- if it was a quick job, just hand brushing would be quicker; someone who does this for a living can probably mask half the panes for the time it takes to brush film on one or two panes. For my level of craftsmanship, I ONLY mask because you need a little paint on the glass to fully seal the edge (I actually caulk for glazing on many projects)... I run tape 1/16" or less off the edge of the muntins, remove masking while paint is wet if possible or the use tape edge straight line to guide a sharp knife. Perfect lines. Paint straight to window/scrape-off technique works too, but glass scratches fairly easily so a sharp blade and steady hand helps, it's also hard to get that nice little overpaint edge on the glass like this though. A tip for quick masking is (1- get a masker!), First line is with paper/tape from masker, tear width to about 1" more narrow than the pane, and lay down taped paper just a hair away from edge, fold under or cut excess paper. Tape the other 3 sides of the pane one line at a time (taping down the paper as you go, again a hair off the edge) by running tape too long over the muntins, place a straight scraper on tape/glass at a miter angle at the corner and tear off extra. Same for other 2 sides, meeting miters carefully at the corner as you tear off tape with the scraper pressed down. A pro can do 12 panes in 10 minutes, I'm sure a HO could pull off 15-20 with a couple of practice panes. Time well spent is money for us pros, DIY isn't eating labor cost. As I tell my clients, why I spend so much more time than other contractors: Most exterior paint jobs look the same new. It's what happens a few years later that shows the problems. Keep up your educating. I just wanted to give a perfectionist contractor insight. For the record, I've debated this very issue on contractor forums, only to decide I'm not arguing the side of long term value with cost-effective economy painting contractors that are getting paid for the work they do. Good luck!
I tried liquid mask for the first time today and only did 1 coat which was apparently too thin… biggest mistake ever. More is better from my experience
@@teresa6775 …. You are wrong there. I’ve been a paint contractor for over 30 years. As a woman trying to make equal pay to a mans wadges… I’ve learned to be neater, faster, attention to detail, and dependable. No tape ever! All skill! Tape, plastic… a waste of money and time.
@@melaniecarroll2538 your need to deminish his efforts and just trying to help others learn a new product is really sad. Go paint something then and leave people trying to help others alone
This was a great demonstration. I love that you showed the difference in time for each method. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, glad you like it. Thanks for watching.
Clear & precise demonstration...10 out of 10..👏
Thanks so much. Thank you for watching.
Tell me you are a scientist retired without telling me you’re a scientist retired … 😂
The time comparaison using mili seconds made me smile !
Hehe
That was awesome btw..
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
@@OakleysDIYHomeRenovation101 sir, may i ask you what was your profession before internet era ?
Perhaps I'm too old school, as my parents taught me how to tape off, and when spray painting I use wax paper sheets cut smaller than the size of the glass pane and the I put my top line of tape and slip the wax paper under the painters tape and make sure it's even and than smooth it down and do the bottom then the sides. I was told to use the paint on masking tape by someone and I decided to look it up on line. Glad I did. It's far easier to measure, fold and cut wax paper with a very sharp blade when doing a door with that many lites. Once I decide to remove it I get clean lines, almost never any touch up, unless I went drinking the night before, and no mess. I even use aluminum foil with painters tape to wrap around pipes or other protrusions that I don't want to get paint on. Tenants always leave stuff behind and considering how much cleaning I have to do in their units I am not using their foil near my food so I found an alternate use for that as well.
Very thorough and well demonstrated, thanks all the way from North Wales UK.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Great video presentation for this product- we're using it now blacking out storefronts and our whole crew watched your work here beforehand- good job sir, thank you
Wow, that's great, glad the video helped. Thanks to all of you for watching.
I used it didn't read the part about tinted windows and it was a disaster it's so important to read the instructions hard lesson learned
LOL, who new reading the instructions would pay off! LOL Sorry for your issue. Thank you for watching.
Thank you so much for pointing out that this isn't comparable with certain Sherwin Williams paints, which is exactly what I was about to paint with. The SW store confirmed that my paint, an even harder drying type, would not work with this! Even though it's in red on the Jasco label, I hadn't read it, so you saved me a huge mistake on a new front door.
You are so welcome! Glad you got the mistake before you started to paint. Hope you project goes well. Thanks for watching.
Good presentation many thanks
Your welcome, glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for sharing this! You have helped me tremendously on my decision to use liquid masking. I am going to give it a shot.
Great. Make sure to read the instructions! I had a comment on a person who didn't and things didn't go well. The paint on that project is still holding strong. Thank you for watching and good luck on your project.
I used this on an exterior with 80 wood windows. We put it on with a mini roller and it was pretty easy but it seemed like you had to wait till the next day or atleast later in the afternoon for it to dry properly. Also we noticed that if it got damp out or very humid it would re wet and you had to wait it out again. Another time we used inside on French doors and had a hard time getting the film to peal off
Yeah they said on the can to wait 24hrs I believe before painting. I too found that it will re-wet and you have to let it dry again. I had no issues with it peeling off but I haven't used it inside, not yet anyway. Thanks for watching.
For the "nothing" panes it would only take a few minutes to cut paper mask rectangles about half an inch smaller than the pane on all sides. Put a piece of looped or double side tape to hold them down and in place while spraying. That'll substantially reduce the amount of paint that needs scored/scraped off.
Thankyou for a fabulous comparison 😊
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.
I'd LOVE to see you try the Elmer's glue and water - I HOPE it works - it could save some $$ ? Maybe?
Will this work on glued pine if sanded before starting and sand sealer before as well? Could use shellac beforehand also.
Definitely would like to see you test Elmer's glue!
Might be a spring project thanks for watching.
If your spraying 2 coats Latex Paint It should peel off the Glass without any masking just as easy as the brush on sealer
You should wet the surface to be peeled with a wet rag This will cause it to peel off without effort
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Great demo, did you try the watered down glue to see if it worked the same? Also as I’m in the UK and have never heard of Elmer’s glue is it like pva?
I appreciate the video and the proper thinking/research you did to compare methods. I may give this a try. Do you have any idea how the liquid masking would do with wood staining?
Not sure if will work with staining. Thanks for watching
What is the name of the paint color and maker you used on the doors?
sherwin-williams duration paint, charcoal blue satin. Thanks for watching
Will the timber frame fragments painted with the masking liquid peel off with the paint while washing windows?
it hasn't washed off my plastic frame around the glass and I have washed the door and it has been rained on. Thank you for watching.
What kind of primer did you use? I've tried with BIN (shellac base) and it didn't go well. Even with a thick coat of liquid masking, the bin primer got really good in the glasses and it was a nightmare to clean.
It says on the can I got not to use with primers with solvents in it and that may be why it didn't work for you. I used a sherwin williams water based primer. Thanks for watching.
@@OakleysDIYHomeRenovation101 When the list on a container of what not to use it on or with is that long I go back to my what I'm comfortable with. I don't want a product that I have to stop and think will it damage this or that or will it take me twice or three times as long and require more touch ups if the product I'm using doesn't "work" with the new product I don't use the new product until the work out the kinks.
Thanks!
Your welcome, thanks for watching.
If once the liquid mask has dried, if you run around with your blade and peel off any residue on the wood/plastic before painting then repeat after painting, just wondering if this would provide a cleaner finish
You really can't see the material on the wood. If you cut the masking material before you paint the paint is gong to show up in that cut line.
Great video. All info provided was relevant and delivered in a conscise matter. No useless babbling like many RUclipsrs tend to do.
Thank you and glad you liked it. Thank you for watching
Seems like a game changer. But I'm concerned about how it actually holds up on the actual wood and trim. The parts you want to keep paint on.
So far doing well on the door I painted, no peeling. Thanks for watching.
Thank you
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
What worries me is that it might not adhere well to the surface you’re painting and/or the paint, causing the paint to prematurely flake off
I worried about that also especially since I had "plastic/PVC" frame around the windows. That is why I painted it on and tried to not get much on the plastic/PVC. So far I have had no issues with that and it has been 7mo since I did it. Thanks for watching.
Watching this made me literally go paint windows with Elmer's glue. Ill let you know if it does anything similar.. I was going to give this product a shot but 30 bucks for a small can is insane to me, compared to using a scraping knife.
Did the glue method work?
I appreciate your effort to show different techniques. Your results look good, spray job is nice and even.
I can see where a DIY homeowner may be drawn to liquid masking. These removable mastic masking products have a place, but as a professional painter/restorer- I don't think this is a great idea for exterior painting. I wouldn't use it on my own place, at least not outside. I understand you are working on a covered patio with probably little exposure, and you may never have issues. However, any amount, even if tiny, of an easily peelable film that makes it onto the painted surface is prohibiting paint from bonding, especially at the pane bottoms where water collects, is asking to fail. Paint bond failure = blistering, UV/water exposure, rot if wood. In all honesty, a professional would never use this because- if it was a quick job, just hand brushing would be quicker; someone who does this for a living can probably mask half the panes for the time it takes to brush film on one or two panes. For my level of craftsmanship, I ONLY mask because you need a little paint on the glass to fully seal the edge (I actually caulk for glazing on many projects)... I run tape 1/16" or less off the edge of the muntins, remove masking while paint is wet if possible or the use tape edge straight line to guide a sharp knife. Perfect lines. Paint straight to window/scrape-off technique works too, but glass scratches fairly easily so a sharp blade and steady hand helps, it's also hard to get that nice little overpaint edge on the glass like this though.
A tip for quick masking is (1- get a masker!), First line is with paper/tape from masker, tear width to about 1" more narrow than the pane, and lay down taped paper just a hair away from edge, fold under or cut excess paper. Tape the other 3 sides of the pane one line at a time (taping down the paper as you go, again a hair off the edge) by running tape too long over the muntins, place a straight scraper on tape/glass at a miter angle at the corner and tear off extra. Same for other 2 sides, meeting miters carefully at the corner as you tear off tape with the scraper pressed down. A pro can do 12 panes in 10 minutes, I'm sure a HO could pull off 15-20 with a couple of practice panes. Time well spent is money for us pros, DIY isn't eating labor cost.
As I tell my clients, why I spend so much more time than other contractors: Most exterior paint jobs look the same new. It's what happens a few years later that shows the problems. Keep up your educating. I just wanted to give a perfectionist contractor insight. For the record, I've debated this very issue on contractor forums, only to decide I'm not arguing the side of long term value with cost-effective economy painting contractors that are getting paid for the work they do. Good luck!
Thank you, and hadn't thought about the bonding issue. Thanks for watching.
Im a painting contractor Waiting 4 hours for it to dry is a no go.
you can spray it on too, even faster results
I chose Frog tape and masked all the 10 panes in our front door, then gave the door 4 coats of poly. Very pleased with my choice.
Do you think wood glue would do the same job as masking Liquid
probably would not peel off very easily
Still have to hand paint
That glass is scratched to hell 🤭
I tried liquid mask for the first time today and only did 1 coat which was apparently too thin… biggest mistake ever. More is better from my experience
yes, needs a "thick" coat to work well. thanks for watching
It looks nice. That piece usually comes off. 😢
Why don’t you just paint the door with a brush? You took a brush and painted the glass 🤣🤣 to keep from getting paint on the glass 🤣🤣🤷♂️
Not sure what the purpose of doing two
I could have hand painted them in 1/16 time it took you to do all of that.
...and it not look half as good 🙅♀🤦♀
@@teresa6775 …. You are wrong there. I’ve been a paint contractor for over 30 years. As a woman trying to make equal pay to a mans wadges… I’ve learned to be neater, faster, attention to detail, and dependable. No tape ever! All skill! Tape, plastic… a waste of money and time.
@@melaniecarroll2538 your need to deminish his efforts and just trying to help others learn a new product is really sad. Go paint something then and leave people trying to help others alone
@@melaniecarroll2538painter is my profession aswell, there’s not a single chance you can get these results by hand.
@@melaniecarroll2538 Its Wages, and bashing the helpful advise this video provides does nothing for you. Also nobody asked for your expertise.
To much talk
Thanks for the feed back, working on that. thanks for watching
OMG it's not rocket science
What would you charge for wood French doors this size? Liquid mask primer and paint
You don't need me to do your painting, it's not that hard you can do it. You can rent a sprayer or paint with a brush. Thanks for watching.
@@OakleysDIYHomeRenovation101 I’m asking what you would charge