Most people who think MMA is just barbaric fighting with no skills are over 50 and still stuck on UFC fights from 1995. The game has changed dramatically since then and is loaded with technicians from various martial arts and combat sports...Wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, judo, kickboxing, karate, etc....skills that take years to sharpen. The days of Tank Abbott have been over for a long time. I'm glad Don Frye checked Zab Judah's ignorant statement.
Nah bro Zab Judah was right, boxing is definitely more complex & takes more discipline & skill then any of those other arts. Boxing is so complex to where u need to use your IQ to the fullest & come up with a hood strategy. Boxing is the most important art to learn because in order to wrestle u gotta learn how to box with the basics at least, in order to do any martial art u gotta learn how to box because is the fundamentals of all arts & the most important
"Michael Jai White...the actor. He's a regular on my show." Correction, Vlad. He's a co-host. Last time, Michael ran his own flashback to a picture of him sparring with Bill Super foot.
MMA is much more complex. Let’s see a boxer get in the ring to box with 4oz gloves. They wouldn’t do it. They need the pillows on their hands. MMA has to be concerned with takedowns. Elbows. Knees. Kicks. It really is no comparison.
A couple of hundred years ago they decided elbows, knees and kicks are unsportsmanlike. Grabbing and wrestling in the ground is the part nobody likes to see. Boxing is stick and move. 100% action. I’ll give you that they do more things in MMA...but if any of those guys were elite athletes to the level of pro boxers: why wouldn’t they just box for 10 or 100x the money? 🤔 after all : look at those big puffy gloves. They can’t get hurt, right?? ...look what Floyd at age 40 with his brittle hands did to McGregor.
If a boxer hits a mma fighter with those gloves on then more then likely the mma fighter is getting something on their face broken. Those "pillows" are there for a reason
Boxing is more graceful, it's not more technical or more skilled. Love boxing and MMA both but MMA is more broad as a combat sport and boxing is more narrow, Zab is cool but he's on that 2005 energy of "MMA is barbaric"
@@THISISLolesh if anything the kickboxing aspect of MMA has diminished Boxings prestige. No one ever gives a thought to if a Olympic level wrestler like Cormier could hang with a boxer in a boxing match only guys whom have kickboxing as their primary base skill set. Which is still stupid since Kickboxing has vastly different stance, defense postures etc...
@@TheEvolver311 I mean I really can't agree with this point, I don't think kickboxing has diminished boxing at all & I don't really know anybody who thinks a kickboxer beats a boxer in boxing bar a couple of retarded mma fans.. I mean Floyd already killed that Tenshin lol.
Dan got the ‘My boy spittin facts’ face @12:25 I’m 90% sure Don gotta trump hat on. Don was talking true story about the ghetto part.. he’s right on that note.
Tony Dungy is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame and won two Super Bowls, one as a player and another as a head coach. Would it have killed you to learn how to pronounce his name correctly when quoting him, Vlad? Smh
Vlad's assessment of boxing is ridiculous. It is the fact that for 20 years Boxing ignored fans and did everything on PPV and cable and lost much of the main stream fans
And Don King destroyed a lot of people's faith in boxing by having Richard Steele and his other referees giving bad decisions so he could make another couple hundred million off of his fighters' rematches.
They did ignore the fans by not putting on the money making matches, the fans were willing to pay for pay per view, but these promo companies blocked them from happening. Ufc is managed by one man and he knows how to put fights together. That's the difference
@@unbiascowboy1537 Well UFC is a monopoly and Dana can get away with paying fighters whatever he deems fit. I mean where are they going to go? Start professional boxing? I don’t think so.
I’m not exactly sure what you’re trying to say but boxing is the way more popular sport world wide, even if MMA is more popular in the US than boxing(which it isn’t) you’re still not considering other countries like the UK , Mexico , Japan , Puerto Rico and Cuba where boxing is the number 1 or 2 sport, MMA isn’t even slightly recognized in most of those countries.
None of those MMA fighters could ever do what Mayweather does in that ring. Its a sweet science that takes the utmost discipline and skill. His reflexes are insane. Thats way harder to do then go in there and slug it out.
@Raf they could if they trained at a young age. Look up how many MMA fighters failed at boxing first. Many of them. Don't forget at 50 years old Ray Mercer KO'd Silva with one punch in a Octagon. A Boxer always has a punchers chance if the MMA fighter is dumb enough to stand with them. If they go to the ground its a wrap.
@@deeray4637 if you couldn't tell that Floyd let him to sell the fight then you must not know either sports. Floyd didn't even try to dodge his punches. He just covered up and let him hit him because Conor could not hurt him. Floyd never fights like that. As soon as Floyd turned it up it was over. It was planned like that so nobody would have been upset from an early KO. Floyd could have easily dodged all of them punches.
@@Playboysnow or maybe Floyd just isn't as quick and agile as he once was, yuno, being that he was 40 at the time of the fight? We all knew Floyd would win, but the stats are there to see. He may of let him hit him at some points, but conor definitely caught him a few times with a couple counter left jabs. I don't see how me talking on this boxing match means i know nothing about MMA? I've been training and competing for close to 10 years, so I'd say I'm probably in a better position to talk than you are lol.
Zab doesn't realize that's in the octagon you have Olympic wrestlers judo guys BJJ and in mma you must defend against different skill sets in boxing its hands and head movement don't get me wrong I grew in a boxing family it takes skill to land punches when the other guy knows that's all you can do great skill and in mma same skill must you must defend against more skill sets.
The sport of wrestling is very skilled and technical. It’s takes years on years to be a great wrestler. Deontay wilder is proof anyone with big power in there hands can become an Olympian with only 1 year of training
That's a good point. I'm pretty ignorant, but if I had to guess, I'd say top level boxers probably have more skill as they're specialized, while MMA is more of a jack of all trades VS a master of one. As a side note, Wilder was exposed in that he ran into someone who could take his best punch. Floyd Mayweather isn't known for his power, but he's probably the greatest defensive fighter of all time. (In boxing)
@@nasmcgrady4165 lmao I was just about to say most top 10 mma fighters at heavyweight have no skill, just power. Heavyweight is a pretty unique division, size and power are far bigger factors then in any other division regardless of sport, but even saying that the top 10 ranked boxers at heavyweight have more skill then the top 10 mma fighters at heavyweight.
Everything in here that vlad says offends me. Lol Ruiz just a brawler? Today's fighters don't have killer instinct? Vlad don't watch the fight game. MMA or Boxing
Yeah Olympic boxer Andy Ruiz just a brawler lol Vlad watches but he is a casual fan you'll hear people say the same thing about Tyson as if every thing he was doing wasn't strategically involved in producing a situation that would allow him the viciously ko his opponents.
Boxing is a style that works and is good, so are other martial arts some are actually better than Boxing. Mma is a sport with rules thats all that can be said. Boxing is too but bareknuckle fighting is the orgins
I'd love to see you start putting more ufc fighters on here. If you got some of the big names on here, retired legends and even current fighters, those interviews would bring in a hell of a lot of views, and probably a whole new dynamic of viewers.
"Boxing is just boxing". Proving Zab's point that MMA is just a glorified bar fight. If you can make a 100 times boxing than MMA and choose MMA, it's ALWAYS because you couldn't master boxing skills.
It's not that u ain't master the skill.... The sport is harder tho... But MMA takes more skill obviously u have to learn multiple skills. In boxing tho you have to become really really good at those selective boxing skills. Cuz guys been boxing since they came out the womb
The tough guy posturing of MMA fans is cute. You can die in a boxing ring. The stakes in boxing are way higher than two guys with piss poor standup trying to compensate but humping each other on the ground. Your sport literally has plumbers and bums off the street and becoming champions 🤣🤣
@Anthony Galeano and your sport has regular guys off the street becoming champions. Any bum cant walk into boxing and become a champion. But all MMA takes is a lucky punch
I love Zab but that was a stupid thing to say. How can boxing be more skillful than MMA when boxing is a part of MMA. That's like saying Biology is more complicated than Science.
MMA takes way more skill and knowledge than boxing by far...Boxing- U have ten strikes at most u have to watch for and that's it... Mma just standing u have to worry about 50 diffrent strikes and that's not even the ground yet...I love boxing but c'mon ppl let's be real
naw guys pick up mma and in 2 years are in the ufc to be a champion boxer you have to train your whole life and fight 11 more minutes and take punches from far more powerful and skillful guys. Look at what just happened to conor mcgregor lost a fight against a guy because he wasn't used to fighting other southpaws and he's an all time mma great right? You can do more with less in mma then in boxing that's the point.
The same way zab feels boxing is all skill, is the same way a grappler feels on the mat. Fighting is fighting. And every fighter is going to feel their style is supreme sport.
Calling a lot of these guys “martial artists” is a stretch. ...even the term “Mixed martial arts”...are we really watching ju jitsu vs takekwondo ...or just guys that train in “mma” gyms.
@@treedillinger5801 MMA is just taking whatever works from each martial art/fighting style. That's why there's people in there who have different backgrounds from muay thai/kickboxing to boxing/bare knuckle to wrestling/jiu jitsu/judo and even some guys supplement things like taekwondo/karate/capoeira and everything in between. Sure some people train in generalized MMA gyms but some specialized in certain fighting styles before transitioning to MMA.
@@ggstatertots ...I know, I get that. I’m just saying: when it first started I envisioned guys like Bruce Lee fighting in different styles, with boxers, kickboxers etc... but it seems like the overwhelming majority train in general “mixed” martial arts. Which I understand from a strategy standpoint.
@@treedillinger5801 True, that's how the UFC was when it started. Then it evolved into this thing where people took the best of everything and made a style of that.
MMA is like being a Jack of all trades and a master of none . Which isn’t a bad thing at all it makes you more of a complete fighter but not a master of an individual discipline.
MMA requires multiple SKILL sets not just one like boxing. Boxing is one skill set. MMA is Judo, grappling, wrestling, striking, Karate, kicking. Mutipal SKILL sets.
When Vlad talks about Michael Jai White saying that he didn't compete in professional sports because of the lack of money in the sports... To me, all that is says is that he has a lack of passion. Sure, I'd also take the big bucks that he is earning in Hollywood. But if he truly thought or even knew that he be competitive at the top levels of mma or kickboxing, he would compete...despite the lack of money.
Vlad did a bad job of trying to interpret what zab was trying to say. He showed all the respect in the world to mma but simply said in boxing theirs less to work with as far as striking. This was a great interview though!
Boxing is the sweet science. Stick and move...that grabbing and rolling around is the wack stuff nobody needs. “Martial artist” is a stretch for most of these cage fighters...plus look at the money. If anybody in MMA were good enough to make 10x more boxing- they’d be doing that instead.
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] do you really not understand the difference in POWER and hand speed?? If that fight wasn’t stopped Connor would’ve died in that ring. He’s one of the hardest punchers in mma, right? ...and he’s not even mediocre for a boxer.
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] ...different skill sets...everyone gets that. I’m talking about power. Floyd Mayweather never learned to throw a kick or a knee, but when he does it’ll hit twice as hard as McGregor’s... do you have any idea the footwork and stamina that goes into boxing?
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] ...my point is simple. I’m not talking about random guys training in gyms...I mean the pros. The elite fighters. Nobody in mma is on the level of a top pro boxer. Nobody hits even close to as hard as Tyson or has the hand speed. When we talk about Connor vs Floyd: that’s 40 year old Floyd. How do you think Connor vs Canelo Alvarez would go? So 2 random guys in a street fight: ok- I’ll guess that the mma guy will win...but elite level mma vs elite level boxer...I’ll pick the boxer in a street fight...or a basketball game or anything else. Because there’s a HUGE mismatch... you think the 2 clowns in this video will beat Tyson in a street fight?
I agree that being an elite boxer requires more skill than being an elite MMA fighter because in boxing it's one discipline but in MMA it involves multiple disciplines therefore MMA requires less skill I'm each area to become elite while in boxing you must be elite in the discipline of boxing if you have in MMA if you have two skills that your proficient in and have decent skills in the other disciplines then you can become elite there's so many different fighting disciplines that go into MMA that no one can be an expert in all but in boxing if you aren't very skilled in boxing than you can become elite the elite MMA fighters can't consistently beat elite boxers In boxing and vice versa boxing is harder to be elite at than MMA which is why I believe MMA is more attractive to the average person because they know they've got a better chance to become a good MMA fighter because it requires less proficiency than boxing does I look forward to the replies that I'm sure my comment will get
Being proficient in MMA is a skill in itself. I don't need to be the best boxer to go into mma. Glove size, shoes, and the ring or cage change the game dramatically. I need to be sharp enough to establish offense n some defense. Like wise with wrestling. I don't need to be a all American collegiate level to fight mma. Mma used to be about proving wht martial art is the best in the 90s. Then in the 2000s fighters started cross training. And now the top level fighters are advanced in striking and grappling arts. Being able to control the octagon, chaining your strikes and grappling together, grapple while strikes are coming at u, defense from strikes and chokes. MMA fighters arnt "jack of all trades" fighters like ppl make it seem
Ok back in the day Dan Severn’s mustache wins, nowadays, Don Frye wins. But the real question is, would there be a Don Frye mustache without Dan Severn...
Na, it's the other way around. Him saying he sucked at boxing is proving Zabs point of it being a skill but to sit there and say that mma isn't is fucking stupid. That shit is ALL skill and anyone who's ever actually trained knows it.
@@davidgaskins2589 your a fu$king dumbass... Frye had the greatest MMA fight ever against Takayama... do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you speak... dumba$$.
He said more skillful.some stuff take years to do.. At the top of it all you know highest level . I tend to agree there. One good punch is not going to win a fight in boxing. In any fight at the highest level , it can change the fight but it won't win it out right.. In mmas one good arm bar its over. One solid take take u lose. In mma , . Go watch Billy conn. Vs Joe Louis. Billy conn played major league baseball and boxed. & At the highest level he got knocked out. He had the punchs but the skill for that level of fight . 2 different things. I'm not saying anybody can beat a mma champion easy no. But you don't need a lot skill to get there gifts. 8 month u can master rear near choke and beat everybody to the title . Boxing it take 8-10 +years to master left check. And to defend such thing. You won't landing it on whim either in boxing. It take serious serious skill. I think both are hard things. Mmas is a lot easier to learn than boxing. In boxing you can't be 1 trick pony
@William G it has happened my guy. A former HW. Boxing IBF champion. Went to the title match in mma on rear neck choke hold alone. U can be one trick pony in mmas and win 4 straight fights to the title . It has never happened in the opposite direction. KJ Noons boxing career is close a mma fighter ever come to a real title fight at any weight in. Pro boxing at the highest level.
They are both skilled and athletes. Boxers just rely on their skill and are more disciplined in there skill. If you don't train properly and at strict discipline then you will get your ass whooped in boxing. In MMA they don't have to rely on their athleticism as much. There are way more options. Which means you can do things that doesn't require you being a super athlete. Looks at the Royce Gracie...he wasn't near the athlete Tyson or even Judah was. Judah could have went to MMA if he went at a younger age. Gracie couldnt have went to Boxing and been as successful....Boxers are by far the better striker with their hands. There is no comparison when it comes to that.
@@jkennerson123 i have done martial arts and do know a lot about it. Boxing is vastly harder at the highest level. You might not agree because you never fought at the highest level. All the stuff you have to learn is one thing. To do it is another. To defend is another. A elite wrestler or Bjj in mmas don't really need. Elite strike game versus the champion or anybody. . In boxing. If ur a outside fighter. Andthe champ a elite inside fighter. Your going to be pis'n blood it just the facts. Go watch sum Errol Spencejr. Some Jack lamotta. M Hagler. You gotta know how to defend versus it at a elite level. Not just learn some stuff. And get by with certain defense moves. No. No it does not work like that in boxing. U dont need a second degree Dan blk belt level to defend on the ground in mm.a Basic blk belt skill is enough. In boxing you to have great defense to fight a skillful champion. Zab Judah was knocking guy out. Mayweather jr etc. The skill it took fight them was higher. Not just know what to do. But to do it at the right time. In mmas u got back up plans, recovery moves . in boxing ur skill level is ur recovery . hope u understand. Its more skillful. I'm not saying mmas dont take skill. Or they have any. No. Ronda rouse vs holly Holm. Who was more skillful.? Holm only had brown belt on the ground and stopped a Olympic gold medalist in judo. 3rd level dam black belt . If. Mms was based on skill Rousey should have never lost that ground fight. Right. Lets be honest. The cold truth is u got back up stuff in mmas ,
MMA is where failed boxers go to become champions, like holly Holmes, you have never seen an MMA fighter transition into boxing and become champions. So who has the more technical skills.
Fighting in the clinch is also a thing in boxing Dan. Look at a fighters like Bernard Hopkins and Andre Ward that would beat guys up in the clinch. It's just that some refs, such as Kenny Bayless, break guys up to quickly.
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Most people who think MMA is just barbaric fighting with no skills are over 50 and still stuck on UFC fights from 1995. The game has changed dramatically since then and is loaded with technicians from various martial arts and combat sports...Wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, judo, kickboxing, karate, etc....skills that take years to sharpen. The days of Tank Abbott have been over for a long time. I'm glad Don Frye checked Zab Judah's ignorant statement.
I disagree.
Nah bro Zab Judah was right, boxing is definitely more complex & takes more discipline & skill then any of those other arts. Boxing is so complex to where u need to use your IQ to the fullest & come up with a hood strategy. Boxing is the most important art to learn because in order to wrestle u gotta learn how to box with the basics at least, in order to do any martial art u gotta learn how to box because is the fundamentals of all arts & the most important
"Michael Jai White...the actor. He's a regular on my show."
Correction, Vlad. He's a co-host. Last time, Michael ran his own flashback to a picture of him sparring with Bill Super foot.
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😂🤣😂🤣😂
😂😂 co host
What video was that?
,😂😂 that joke of a sparring session with jon Jones
When does the Dan and Don podcast start?? Imagine this movie.
February 6 they start recording
Don Frye is a regular guest on the show called “MMA Roasted”. He makes a weekly appearance
That would be awesome!
It exists now thank fuck.
Toxic masculinity podcast.
It's a fucking dream man!
These two dudes look like they are straight outta Blaine county and listen to rebel radio......
Lmfao
Shut up gta nerd
Some good ol Arizona boys
ohhh maaan san andreas shit!!
Pretty cool right?
Look up Frye vs Takayama if you haven't seen it.
1 of 200k right here bro
Haha Val is familiar.. his only regret is that assault happened outside Federal jurisdiction.
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Awesome
@mmadigest is the Best!!!
Get rampage jackson on here. He's too damn funny.
Rampage "Titties" Jackson.
Rampage would have the Best stories!!!
Facts that be a great interview
@@jayr3381 "tiddeyes"** lol
@@jayr3381 The original tiddies: "OH how the tables have turned!" lol
Next video: Zab judah addresses being called a dumass
You NAILED it!
You already know the vibes
Shout out to Don Frye... One of the forefathers of MMA.
Don called it " I don't even know that guy but off what he said his a dumbazz"😂😂😂😂
MMA is much more complex. Let’s see a boxer get in the ring to box with 4oz gloves. They wouldn’t do it. They need the pillows on their hands. MMA has to be concerned with takedowns. Elbows. Knees. Kicks. It really is no comparison.
A couple of hundred years ago they decided elbows, knees and kicks are unsportsmanlike. Grabbing and wrestling in the ground is the part nobody likes to see. Boxing is stick and move. 100% action. I’ll give you that they do more things in MMA...but if any of those guys were elite athletes to the level of pro boxers: why wouldn’t they just box for 10 or 100x the money? 🤔 after all : look at those big puffy gloves. They can’t get hurt, right?? ...look what Floyd at age 40 with his brittle hands did to McGregor.
Probably top 5 dumbest comments I’ve ever seen on RUclips,
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] don’t bother bro. You can tell his knowledge of boxing is probably same as Soulja boys on physics,
Those Bigger gloves are easier to land with
If a boxer hits a mma fighter with those gloves on then more then likely the mma fighter is getting something on their face broken.
Those "pillows" are there for a reason
At this point Dan look ready to just bounce.
He looks good, retired and chillin' with Dan Severn on Vlad. He's been retired for over a decade is he supposed to be in fighting shape? Lol
@@JohnSmith-cm4zy he’s saying he wanted to leave the interview
@@strengthtraining4062 Oh lol
@@JohnSmith-cm4zy you Gump lol
Boxing is more graceful, it's not more technical or more skilled.
Love boxing and MMA both but MMA is more broad as a combat sport and boxing is more narrow, Zab is cool but he's on that 2005 energy of "MMA is barbaric"
Agreed. I enjoy watching high-level boxing....it's definitely an art. But high-level MMA is a whole other beast.
@@meaty220 They both on par in different ways.
@@THISISLolesh if anything the kickboxing aspect of MMA has diminished Boxings prestige. No one ever gives a thought to if a Olympic level wrestler like Cormier could hang with a boxer in a boxing match only guys whom have kickboxing as their primary base skill set. Which is still stupid since Kickboxing has vastly different stance, defense postures etc...
@@TheEvolver311 I mean I really can't agree with this point, I don't think kickboxing has diminished boxing at all & I don't really know anybody who thinks a kickboxer beats a boxer in boxing bar a couple of retarded mma fans.. I mean Floyd already killed that Tenshin lol.
Dan got the ‘My boy spittin facts’ face @12:25
I’m 90% sure Don gotta trump hat on.
Don was talking true story about the ghetto part.. he’s right on that note.
They look and sound just like cast members from The Waterboy movie 😂 "Home is where you make it"
And Zab would whoop both of em at the same time FACTS!
@@Haterheartbreaker2x lmmfao gtfoh
Isn’t that joe dirt? “Home is where you make it” I get your point tho lol
@@elranchogrande66 same voice is all I'm saying
@@Haterheartbreaker2x they both would whoop zab u trippin
Man this gotta be one of vlad's funniest interviews. Frye is funny af
his voice😂
His old Don Fryeday videos are classic!!
Yeah had me rolling lmao
Don “The Last Real Man” Alive” Frye
Dan and Don are funny AF. They need their show!
@8:20 they were both looking at Vlad like he was a dumbass lol
You can tell dan has broke his nose so many times sounds like he's always got a cold
His smoking is a factor also
Dan is the guy who is always embarrassed by his friend...
Severn seems like a cool guy god bless him
Tony Dungy is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame and won two Super Bowls, one as a player and another as a head coach. Would it have killed you to learn how to pronounce his name correctly when quoting him, Vlad? Smh
12:10 Don is right on. It doesn't only mean physically fight to get out but hard work.
Damn straight
I’m ready for this full interview! Awesome stuff Vlad
Two legends. Great interview.
Vlad's assessment of boxing is ridiculous. It is the fact that for 20 years Boxing ignored fans and did everything on PPV and cable and lost much of the main stream fans
And Don King destroyed a lot of people's faith in boxing by having Richard Steele and his other referees giving bad decisions so he could make another couple hundred million off of his fighters' rematches.
If mma is so popular I’ve never understood why middle of the pack boxers make more then the best ufc fighters.
They did ignore the fans by not putting on the money making matches, the fans were willing to pay for pay per view, but these promo companies blocked them from happening. Ufc is managed by one man and he knows how to put fights together. That's the difference
@@unbiascowboy1537 Well UFC is a monopoly and Dana can get away with paying fighters whatever he deems fit. I mean where are they going to go? Start professional boxing? I don’t think so.
I’m not exactly sure what you’re trying to say but boxing is the way more popular sport world wide, even if MMA is more popular in the US than boxing(which it isn’t) you’re still not considering other countries like the UK , Mexico , Japan , Puerto Rico and Cuba where boxing is the number 1 or 2 sport, MMA isn’t even slightly recognized in most of those countries.
This was awesome!! These two guys aren’t only the greatest fighters but they are hilarious! Love them
0:30 he’s talking about Mr.perfect and Rick rude with that Lloyd of London Insurence policies
I could tell right before they played the zab Judah clip, dan removed the cigar from his mouth, he was about to get angry.
None of those MMA fighters could ever do what Mayweather does in that ring. Its a sweet science that takes the utmost discipline and skill. His reflexes are insane. Thats way harder to do then go in there and slug it out.
@Raf they could if they trained at a young age. Look up how many MMA fighters failed at boxing first. Many of them. Don't forget at 50 years old Ray Mercer KO'd Silva with one punch in a Octagon. A Boxer always has a punchers chance if the MMA fighter is dumb enough to stand with them. If they go to the ground its a wrap.
@@Playboysnow and an mma fighter landed more punches on Mayweather than any pro boxer had done in years 🤷♂️
@@deeray4637 if you couldn't tell that Floyd let him to sell the fight then you must not know either sports. Floyd didn't even try to dodge his punches. He just covered up and let him hit him because Conor could not hurt him. Floyd never fights like that. As soon as Floyd turned it up it was over. It was planned like that so nobody would have been upset from an early KO. Floyd could have easily dodged all of them punches.
@@Playboysnow or maybe Floyd just isn't as quick and agile as he once was, yuno, being that he was 40 at the time of the fight? We all knew Floyd would win, but the stats are there to see. He may of let him hit him at some points, but conor definitely caught him a few times with a couple counter left jabs. I don't see how me talking on this boxing match means i know nothing about MMA? I've been training and competing for close to 10 years, so I'd say I'm probably in a better position to talk than you are lol.
Zab doesn't realize that's in the octagon you have Olympic wrestlers judo guys BJJ and in mma you must defend against different skill sets in boxing its hands and head movement don't get me wrong I grew in a boxing family it takes skill to land punches when the other guy knows that's all you can do great skill and in mma same skill must you must defend against more skill sets.
“Tony Dun-gee” 🤣
The sport of wrestling is very skilled and technical. It’s takes years on years to be a great wrestler. Deontay wilder is proof anyone with big power in there hands can become an Olympian with only 1 year of training
That's a good point.
I'm pretty ignorant, but if I had to guess, I'd say top level boxers probably have more skill as they're specialized, while MMA is more of a jack of all trades VS a master of one.
As a side note, Wilder was exposed in that he ran into someone who could take his best punch.
Floyd Mayweather isn't known for his power, but he's probably the greatest defensive fighter of all time. (In boxing)
With him it’s because fans love ko’s and he can ko people that’s the only reason you rose so high he was losing pretty much every fight
Francis ngnannou is a top heavyweight with just power in mma
@@nasmcgrady4165 lmao I was just about to say most top 10 mma fighters at heavyweight have no skill, just power. Heavyweight is a pretty unique division, size and power are far bigger factors then in any other division regardless of sport, but even saying that the top 10 ranked boxers at heavyweight have more skill then the top 10 mma fighters at heavyweight.
Wrestling and bjj takes years upon year to master and level up takes way longer to become a bjj black belt then become a pro boxer
Always get a good chuckle when I hear Don's voice again after a while hehe. 2 Legend's respect!.
How Dan smiles in response to that scenario 11:33 Lmao!!!
Everything in here that vlad says offends me. Lol
Ruiz just a brawler? Today's fighters don't have killer instinct? Vlad don't watch the fight game. MMA or Boxing
I agree with you 100% he doesn’t know shit about boxing
does he know anything about fighting?
Yeah Olympic boxer Andy Ruiz just a brawler lol
Vlad watches but he is a casual fan you'll hear people say the same thing about Tyson as if every thing he was doing wasn't strategically involved in producing a situation that would allow him the viciously ko his opponents.
Wresting was added to the Olympics in 708 BC. Greece. Boxing was added in 1904. Just some facts for the conversation.
Vlad talking bout “Andy RuEz vs Anthony Joshua” 😂
Boxing is a style that works and is good, so are other martial arts some are actually better than Boxing. Mma is a sport with rules thats all that can be said. Boxing is too but bareknuckle fighting is the orgins
They got bare fights out here professionally
@@aeriedens144 yeah ive seen that its bought back i hope it grows
Zab said if he got kneebowed in a fight he's getting his gun
I'd love to see you start putting more ufc fighters on here. If you got some of the big names on here, retired legends and even current fighters, those interviews would bring in a hell of a lot of views, and probably a whole new dynamic of viewers.
Don Frye's voice somewhat reminds me of Marcus Fenix from Gears of War. His younger face somewhat reminds me of Kurt Russell.
Great interview both legends 👏🏼
"Boxing is just boxing".
Proving Zab's point that MMA is just a glorified bar fight. If you can make a 100 times boxing than MMA and choose MMA, it's ALWAYS because you couldn't master boxing skills.
You are stuck in 1995. MMA has evolved since then.
It's not that u ain't master the skill.... The sport is harder tho... But MMA takes more skill obviously u have to learn multiple skills. In boxing tho you have to become really really good at those selective boxing skills. Cuz guys been boxing since they came out the womb
@Anthony Galeano Gladiators that suck at every discipline equally. Yeah, real gladiators.
The tough guy posturing of MMA fans is cute. You can die in a boxing ring. The stakes in boxing are way higher than two guys with piss poor standup trying to compensate but humping each other on the ground. Your sport literally has plumbers and bums off the street and becoming champions 🤣🤣
@Anthony Galeano and your sport has regular guys off the street becoming champions. Any bum cant walk into boxing and become a champion. But all MMA takes is a lucky punch
I love Zab but that was a stupid thing to say. How can boxing be more skillful than MMA when boxing is a part of MMA. That's like saying Biology is more complicated than Science.
MMA takes way more skill and knowledge than boxing by far...Boxing- U have ten strikes at most u have to watch for and that's it... Mma just standing u have to worry about 50 diffrent strikes and that's not even the ground yet...I love boxing but c'mon ppl let's be real
naw guys pick up mma and in 2 years are in the ufc to be a champion boxer you have to train your whole life and fight 11 more minutes and take punches from far more powerful and skillful guys. Look at what just happened to conor mcgregor lost a fight against a guy because he wasn't used to fighting other southpaws and he's an all time mma great right? You can do more with less in mma then in boxing that's the point.
Hahahaha, I like Don, he's unapologetic and his voice sounds like it belongs in a typecast Hollywood movie!
The same way zab feels boxing is all skill, is the same way a grappler feels on the mat. Fighting is fighting. And every fighter is going to feel their style is supreme sport.
Dan's not lying Rick Rude did the insurance pay out. Then he asked Eric Bischoff to pay it off with Turner Sports money. Eric said no.
Yup
Facts
How is one martial art more skilled than several? Of course MMA is more skilled
Calling a lot of these guys “martial artists” is a stretch. ...even the term “Mixed martial arts”...are we really watching ju jitsu vs takekwondo ...or just guys that train in “mma” gyms.
@@treedillinger5801 MMA is just taking whatever works from each martial art/fighting style. That's why there's people in there who have different backgrounds from muay thai/kickboxing to boxing/bare knuckle to wrestling/jiu jitsu/judo and even some guys supplement things like taekwondo/karate/capoeira and everything in between. Sure some people train in generalized MMA gyms but some specialized in certain fighting styles before transitioning to MMA.
@@ggstatertots ...I know, I get that. I’m just saying: when it first started I envisioned guys like Bruce Lee fighting in different styles, with boxers, kickboxers etc... but it seems like the overwhelming majority train in general “mixed” martial arts. Which I understand from a strategy standpoint.
@@treedillinger5801 True, that's how the UFC was when it started. Then it evolved into this thing where people took the best of everything and made a style of that.
MMA is like being a Jack of all trades and a master of none . Which isn’t a bad thing at all it makes you more of a complete fighter but not a master of an individual discipline.
MMA requires multiple SKILL sets not just one like boxing. Boxing is one skill set. MMA is Judo, grappling, wrestling, striking, Karate, kicking. Mutipal SKILL sets.
Boxing is throwing hands...MMA is a fight for your life🤣😂🤣😂
@@youngc1mission well said!!👍
When Vlad talks about Michael Jai White saying that he didn't compete in professional sports because of the lack of money in the sports... To me, all that is says is that he has a lack of passion. Sure, I'd also take the big bucks that he is earning in Hollywood. But if he truly thought or even knew that he be competitive at the top levels of mma or kickboxing, he would compete...despite the lack of money.
Freddy Mercury & Tom Selleck have had secret crazy big fighting careers in the open.
Vlad did a bad job of trying to interpret what zab was trying to say. He showed all the respect in the world to mma but simply said in boxing theirs less to work with as far as striking. This was a great interview though!
Boxing is the sweet science. Stick and move...that grabbing and rolling around is the wack stuff nobody needs. “Martial artist” is a stretch for most of these cage fighters...plus look at the money. If anybody in MMA were good enough to make 10x more boxing- they’d be doing that instead.
Lmfao, u fool.
@@zacharyharris438 ..what happened to Connor when he fought 40 year old Floyd and his brittle hands?
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] do you really not understand the difference in POWER and hand speed?? If that fight wasn’t stopped Connor would’ve died in that ring. He’s one of the hardest punchers in mma, right? ...and he’s not even mediocre for a boxer.
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] ...different skill sets...everyone gets that. I’m talking about power. Floyd Mayweather never learned to throw a kick or a knee, but when he does it’ll hit twice as hard as McGregor’s... do you have any idea the footwork and stamina that goes into boxing?
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] ...my point is simple. I’m not talking about random guys training in gyms...I mean the pros. The elite fighters. Nobody in mma is on the level of a top pro boxer. Nobody hits even close to as hard as Tyson or has the hand speed. When we talk about Connor vs Floyd: that’s 40 year old Floyd. How do you think Connor vs Canelo Alvarez would go?
So 2 random guys in a street fight: ok- I’ll guess that the mma guy will win...but elite level mma vs elite level boxer...I’ll pick the boxer in a street fight...or a basketball game or anything else. Because there’s a HUGE mismatch... you think the 2 clowns in this video will beat Tyson in a street fight?
Theres no standing 8 count in MMA and in a clinch U get knees, elbows, foot stomps... Theres no comparison on what you have to bring to game!
Boxing is a game compared to mma
@@mannyclav Neither are games, more boxers die or end up in bad health positions. Boxing is no game, your life is on the line.
I agree that being an elite boxer requires more skill than being an elite MMA fighter because in boxing it's one discipline but in MMA it involves multiple disciplines therefore MMA requires less skill I'm each area to become elite while in boxing you must be elite in the discipline of boxing if you have in MMA if you have two skills that your proficient in and have decent skills in the other disciplines then you can become elite there's so many different fighting disciplines that go into MMA that no one can be an expert in all but in boxing if you aren't very skilled in boxing than you can become elite the elite MMA fighters can't consistently beat elite boxers In boxing and vice versa boxing is harder to be elite at than MMA which is why I believe MMA is more attractive to the average person because they know they've got a better chance to become a good MMA fighter because it requires less proficiency than boxing does I look forward to the replies that I'm sure my comment will get
here's your reply you wanted
Being proficient in MMA is a skill in itself. I don't need to be the best boxer to go into mma. Glove size, shoes, and the ring or cage change the game dramatically. I need to be sharp enough to establish offense n some defense. Like wise with wrestling. I don't need to be a all American collegiate level to fight mma. Mma used to be about proving wht martial art is the best in the 90s. Then in the 2000s fighters started cross training. And now the top level fighters are advanced in striking and grappling arts. Being able to control the octagon, chaining your strikes and grappling together, grapple while strikes are coming at u, defense from strikes and chokes. MMA fighters arnt "jack of all trades" fighters like ppl make it seem
"Ruiz beat his ass...."
There was the REMATCH, you know, Vlad....
He conveniently left that part out.
left the part where ruiz got floored out too as if he just walked through joshua lol
That match was a total fluke. Ruiz would NEVER win that fight again.
Vlad doesn’t know shit about boxing
He doesn’t know who zab is? Ya don would get beat up
This was the manliest sit down i swear . If they really do a podcast , I'll watch that s--t
Great interview.
Boxing is like checkers mma is like playing chess to many ways to win.
💯💯
Floyd mayweather 19 years, no excuses.
omg i am gonna watch every second of their podcast
Love these guys!
I'll be tuning in to that toxic masculinity broadcast.
Just because you scared doesn’t make it toxic baby boy
Well maybe cause you a beta male
@@Aceshm I'm guessing you missed another part of the interview
Why is Don Frye’s hat blurred out???
ANDY RUIZ HAS FAST HANDS QUICK FEET AND GOOD POWER IN BOTH HANDS
DON AND VLAD DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING
Omg thank you bro good to see people you in the comments he needs to have people who are currently in the sport on so they could educate him
@@jessie3092 I try an unchecked lie becomes the truth
N zab clearly knows nothing bout mma
Ok back in the day Dan Severn’s mustache wins, nowadays, Don Frye wins. But the real question is, would there be a Don Frye mustache without Dan Severn...
Gotta interview Ken shamrock next
It's a reason why mma fighter's are allowed to wear those small gloves, because there not as skilled.
There's a conversation about which sport requires more skill or what that even means, but Zab is definitely more skilled than Don ever was.
At boxing. Not at fighting. Or wrestling.
Zab Judah vs Don Frye confirmed. Good job Glad.
Detective Vlad tryna start beef i see.....
Saying Andy Ruiz is just a brawler proves that Vlad shouldn’t talk about boxing or MMA, he knows fuck all about either sport.
Where was Dan Frye on January 6th?
Tony “Dung-ee” 😭
Don said himself, "I sucked as a boxer." He doesn't know what HE'S watching, when he watches the handskills and feints of good boxers.
Na, it's the other way around. Him saying he sucked at boxing is proving Zabs point of it being a skill but to sit there and say that mma isn't is fucking stupid. That shit is ALL skill and anyone who's ever actually trained knows it.
He kind of proved Zab right, and admitted that he wasn't athletic enough for boxing. Lol
Wow how stupid you must be irl
@@rigormortis428 h
Dan was just a wrestler.. Most boring "fights" ever
@@davidgaskins2589 your a fu$king dumbass... Frye had the greatest MMA fight ever against Takayama... do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you speak... dumba$$.
What zab said contradicted himself. How is boxing a skill but mma that consists of boxing not a skill? Lol
He said more skillful.some stuff take years to do.. At the top of it all you know highest level . I tend to agree there. One good punch is not going to win a fight in boxing. In any fight at the highest level , it can change the fight but it won't win it out right.. In mmas one good arm bar its over. One solid take take u lose. In mma
, . Go watch Billy conn. Vs Joe Louis. Billy conn played major league baseball and boxed. & At the highest level he got knocked out. He had the punchs but the skill for that level of fight . 2 different things.
I'm not saying anybody can beat a mma champion easy no. But you don't need a lot skill to get there gifts. 8 month u can master rear near choke and beat everybody to the title . Boxing it take 8-10 +years to master left check. And to defend such thing. You won't landing it on whim either in boxing. It take serious serious skill.
I think both are hard things. Mmas is a lot easier to learn than boxing. In boxing you can't be 1 trick pony
@William G it has happened my guy. A former HW. Boxing IBF champion. Went to the title match in mma on rear neck choke hold alone. U can be one trick pony in mmas and win 4 straight fights to the title .
It has never happened in the opposite direction. KJ Noons boxing career is close a mma fighter ever come to a real title fight at any weight in. Pro boxing at the highest level.
They are both skilled and athletes. Boxers just rely on their skill and are more disciplined in there skill. If you don't train properly and at strict discipline then you will get your ass whooped in boxing. In MMA they don't have to rely on their athleticism as much. There are way more options. Which means you can do things that doesn't require you being a super athlete. Looks at the Royce Gracie...he wasn't near the athlete Tyson or even Judah was. Judah could have went to MMA if he went at a younger age. Gracie couldnt have went to Boxing and been as successful....Boxers are by far the better striker with their hands. There is no comparison when it comes to that.
@@l3tme545 So you're saying learning how to box alone is harder than learning multiple aspects of fighting? You make no sense.
@@jkennerson123 i have done martial arts and do know a lot about it. Boxing is vastly harder at the highest level. You might not agree because you never fought at the highest level.
All the stuff you have to learn is one thing. To do it is another. To defend is another. A elite wrestler or Bjj in mmas don't really need. Elite strike game versus the champion or anybody. .
In boxing. If ur a outside fighter. Andthe champ a elite inside fighter. Your going to be pis'n blood it just the facts. Go watch sum Errol Spencejr. Some Jack lamotta. M Hagler. You gotta know how to defend versus it at a elite level. Not just learn some stuff. And get by with certain defense moves. No. No it does not work like that in boxing.
U dont need a second degree Dan blk belt level to defend on the ground in mm.a Basic blk belt skill is enough.
In boxing you to have great defense to fight a skillful champion. Zab Judah was knocking guy out. Mayweather jr etc. The skill it took fight them was higher. Not just know what to do. But to do it at the right time.
In mmas u got back up plans, recovery moves . in boxing ur skill level is ur recovery . hope u understand. Its more skillful.
I'm not saying mmas dont take skill. Or they have any. No. Ronda rouse vs holly Holm. Who was more skillful.? Holm only had brown belt on the ground and stopped a Olympic gold medalist in judo. 3rd level dam black belt . If. Mms was based on skill Rousey should have never lost that ground fight. Right. Lets be honest.
The cold truth is u got back up stuff in mmas ,
Zab Judah was a world champion a few times and as a sparing partner I agree with Zab boxing is more skilled than MMA.
that's just silly. in boxing you only gotta be good at one thing. in mma if your sub par in one thing you will not prosper
@Anthony Galeano GO!
@@RL-ww5ev If you never been in the ring you wouldn't understand boxing more skilled bro
@@flower98712 from boxing to rapper? U need consistency
@@Rolling2Much I also do computer programming, own my house and I'm going to the amaturs this year so thank you bro.
At the end of the day boxing and mma any kind of professional fighting takes skills 💯🤷🏾♂️ ANY PROFESSIONAL SPORT PERIOD
The reason nba and NFL have pension plans is because they unionized. MMA fighters and wwe stars need learn their worth
And yet they still cry about dribbling a ball n not being able to go to strip clubs (Kyrie Irving)
@@Est93 sir we are not doing this. You think because they dribbling a basketball they can’t complain about certain shit. They are still human
Severn and Frye true American men.
MMA is better because it’s the closet thing to a real fight. Boxing’s a sport. MMA is fighting.
Exactly, people that can’t fight wanna call you a bitch if you take the fight to the ground or kick because you refuse to play the “game” of boxing.
Don fryes hilarious he needs to have a podcast
@Doc Holliday they start recording February 6
@Doc Holliday follow Don on he’s Instagram he will be posting a lot of info on there about the podcast
I love Don's explanation on how we have lost our fight to better ourselves
Sounds like their podcast is going to be like "the man show" from back in the day. I cant wait👊
Zab ain’t bout that barbarian life😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love how Zab talks like he's a genius. The guy has an IQ of 55
MMA is where failed boxers go to become champions, like holly Holmes, you have never seen an MMA fighter transition into boxing and become champions. So who has the more technical skills.
Holly was good at boxing. She was good at kickboxing. She's good at MMA. I do think she's on the down hill though.
Dan is the STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. Respect
Would it be harder for a boxer to step in to MMA or for a MMA guy to step into boxing? 🤔
Either one would take years.
@Lord Arceus [ Reddits Nicest Guy ] A jiu jitsu white belt with 6 months of training will annihilate a world champion boxer.
Legend has it that Zab Judah hides when the Predator is around
Severn's ball bag is GIGANTIC... as big as Frye's hands...
Type in “bob arum thoughts on the UFC” if you want a good laugh 😂
I actually agree with Zab.
For Dan Frye to Name call The Great Zab Judah
and to not even know who Zab Judah even is and considering Zab was not being disrespectful at
Don Frye with the 1000 yard stare
Fighting in the clinch is also a thing in boxing Dan. Look at a fighters like Bernard Hopkins and Andre Ward that would beat guys up in the clinch. It's just that some refs, such as Kenny Bayless, break guys up to quickly.
Tyson wasn’t a brawler. He was well schooled, scientific and technical as they come.
Tony Dungee?🤣🤣🤣🤣