I've never done a single van race in the 2 years I've played. Surely Rockstar could have made a couple of van races? Or at least verified some van races.
Great series mate - I just wrote about how unstable the Rumpo is, then at the end of the video you address it. I should wait until the end of the video until I comment next time.
who else loves th surfer altough it is the slowest car? :) dont matter if i lose when it is a van race , i just love them damn looks of those T1 and T2 volkswagens in gta :)
Either Rockstar create a Pickup Truck class or move all pickup truck looking vehicles to the SUV class like the Bobcat XL, Sadler, Bison, Bodhi, Guardian, Sandkings...etc.
NatureXwars They could probably put them into the Utility class to add more options than using a Sadler or losing. With the Bobcat, Bison, Guardian and maybe even the Contender (although it would be horribly OP) they could do this, but the Sandking and Bodhi would be a little more questionable because they still fit into the Offroads class well. Maybe they could be in the Utility class but allow them to be used in Offroad races?
NatureXwars it's like they can't decide where they want pickup trucks to go: Bison/Bobcat = Van Sadler = Utility Guardian = Industrial Sandking/Bodhi = Offroad Contender = SUV Make up your damn minds Rockstar!
Broughy, it probably could've been a good idea to put a bonus clip of the Rumpo Custom while 'wiggle boosting'. From this video people will get the idea that the top 2 are well balanced, but in reality the Rumpo Custom will be extremely overpowered when you come up against someone who knows how to use it and get the most out of it. I know you try to stay away from kerb boosting and other ways to improve laptimes, but with the Rumpo Custom wiggle boosting really shouldn't be ignored. I'm not nearly as good as you on CCGP, but just after 5 laps I was able to beat your Rumpo laptime by almost 2 seconds (1:15.511). Could be worth mentioning in the top speed video as well ;)
Yeah I hear you. I'll cover it in a separate video. It's difficult to know which way to go with these things but I prefer for the sake of consistency to test without such tricks. But I will cover it in future.
I now actually just noticed that the Paradise still has the same vans engine sound as last gen GTA V/Online, while the Rumpo & all other panel vans has the new sound.
no, Rockstar don't ever seem to know what class to put pickups in. Some of them are in Vans, some are in SUVs, some are in Utility and some are in offroads
Hey Broughy, 1st, I want to again thank you for doing all this testing. You are doing a great service to the community. 2nd, I want to know if we are aloud to submit 1 or 2 tracks for the Xbox One content creator streams? I submitted 1 a long time ago, and another about a week ago, but I have 1 more I think you would really like. Please respond so I have a clear answer. Thanks again.
I never even thought about that. Cause there is a bit of a difference between the 2. Not sure about performance, but I know for a fact the rusty one has much higher suspension.
Well, if you're looking for al all round good super car, then the Nero/Nero Custom is it. The Tyrus is just one of those extra cars, it's amazing in the hills and on traction tracks,
The rumpo also feels like it has a lot more body roll, I definitely prefer the Burrito because it always feels more planted in low and high speed corners to me.
"The Rumpo Custom is much much better in terms of cornering" .. I must be doing something wrong because mines tips over like a Robin Reliant in every corner haha
Great vids Broughy! Am I noticing use of the off road wheels here and also in your compact test? If so, is it being used for any benefits? Thanks again for your great work.
Yea i know that part, thats what im not sure of if it is making a difference because i have seen them on many vids of different classes. The spread sheets are a little out of wack right now and there is the Tryes Can Clip box for off road wearing and some of the cars that I have seen in vids with off roads are showing no check in boxes.
Until 3 days ago the entire 3 hour stream footage was on his twitch page, but unfortunately after 2 months they get removed automatically, so now you'll have to wait for all the races to be uploaded to youtube :P
Vans went from being my most hated class to one of my favorites with the help of the bison. Just don't like the feel of the Gang Burrito and the Rumpo Custom is just kinda boring. Bison got that acceleration and just feels like a thrill to drive.
Broughy1322 oh OK so there are updated lap times and if there is a game update you delete the lap times until you get the chance to test them again... That makes sense
OK. Thanks! I have not really done any proper testing, but I'm quite sure, that there is difference in offroad situation! (But I could be wrong, as my tests are far from proper testing!)
You could do a short fact finding video on wiggle boosts since the Rumpo custom benefits a lot from that. You should also cover short shifting in a video because the effect is huge :)
Broughy... are we missing a slalom test? The Rumpo Custom is prone to flipping over, as you very well pointed out, while the Gang Burrito is pretty "planted". We need some sort of objective test exposing that sort of weakness... like the Faction... (hilarious racing on that topic)... Yes, your subjective review matches ours, but can we quantify that? Also, that cornering oversteer bug would be made evident in some sort of slalom test much sooner. Perhaps you could run more complex tests on a limited series, with just a dozen hand-picked models, instead of running the full gamut of tests on all cars. Cars that we know to be buggy, prone to flipping, erratic behavior, you know, those special snowflakes that we suspect that could expose bugs, and cause all sort of unexpected and downright bizarre crashes... Even if for just research purposes... just some brainstorm rambling here...
Challenge: Drive this track blind. I actually think you can do it.
I've never done a single van race in the 2 years I've played. Surely Rockstar could have made a couple of van races? Or at least verified some van races.
I never even knew there is a vehicle called 'Pony' in the game, haha!
Also really nice to see that balance at the top.
Thanks for testing!
Great series mate - I just wrote about how unstable the Rumpo is, then at the end of the video you address it. I should wait until the end of the video until I comment next time.
Also, the Bison is competitive when in tracks with plenty of uphill sections, due to its very good acceleration.
less because of its acceleration and more because it has loads more power than anything else in the class
Johnny362000 and because it's a 4x4 vehicle
DaSpekyLegend69 the bison is not a van
Great job again Broughy!!!
Surfer > X80
I always thought that the "BF Surfer" would have made an awesome low rider van, guess rockstar thought different.
Contender, Bison, and Bobcat XL should be in the utility class
Rockstar should let us buy and customize the Pony and the Speedo.
They should let us buy and customise a lot of things XD
That is true lol
Justin Lynch I want the Brute and regular Burrito van.
like the small utility truck the scrap truck
Had a Speedo once, like its shape & look better than the Rumpo but debated on weither to keep it or the latter for better perfomance....
Bison, another example of vehicle classification gone wrong. SMH
"Anything below the top two you really not gonna do too well with"
- Broughy1322 who lost to a Bison on Stream :D
Thanks Broughy!
Taco Van in the top 20 fastest vehicles in the game that matter confirmed by the Broughster himself.
People don't do enough van races, super fun. Sadler races too.
Coolness201 lawn mower :)
StarlitShadows Futo racing in the mountains, with rain at night. Best times ever.
Man, I loved vans in GTA 3. I was so young back then BibleThump
who else loves th surfer altough it is the slowest car? :)
dont matter if i lose when it is a van race , i just love them damn looks of those T1 and T2 volkswagens in gta :)
brugesboy 1997 I love the surfer because it's a vw bus and there is a rusty version to
kriske Same reason I love the Kombi irl. It rocks.
I'd use Gang burrito except for Rumpo. We race a lot with my buds and when we do van races the Rumpo keeps flipping.
Be honest Broughy. You've had a dream where you were driving this course haven't you?
The MC delivery van should be last. I hate that fucking thing.
LordMinion777 Is-life-and-love The Boxville is shit! Mainly why I don't like doing MC business. Stick with CEO.
Where's the Moonbeam? :kappa:
In the Muscle class.
Seriously? Are rockstar fuckin blind????
We do not ask that question around these parts, for the fear of triggering Broughy.
LShelby he gets triggered over anything
+Atom Storm ARE WE BLIND?
The Bobcat and Bison in the vans class, the Moonbeam is not. Great job R* :P
Either Rockstar create a Pickup Truck class or move all pickup truck looking vehicles to the SUV class like the Bobcat XL, Sadler, Bison, Bodhi, Guardian, Sandkings...etc.
NatureXwars They could probably put them into the Utility class to add more options than using a Sadler or losing. With the Bobcat, Bison, Guardian and maybe even the Contender (although it would be horribly OP) they could do this, but the Sandking and Bodhi would be a little more questionable because they still fit into the Offroads class well. Maybe they could be in the Utility class but allow them to be used in Offroad races?
Yeah, that makes sense too.
NatureXwars it's like they can't decide where they want pickup trucks to go:
Bison/Bobcat = Van
Sadler = Utility
Guardian = Industrial
Sandking/Bodhi = Offroad
Contender = SUV
Make up your damn minds Rockstar!
Thanks mate 👍👍👍
Broughy, it probably could've been a good idea to put a bonus clip of the Rumpo Custom while 'wiggle boosting'. From this video people will get the idea that the top 2 are well balanced, but in reality the Rumpo Custom will be extremely overpowered when you come up against someone who knows how to use it and get the most out of it. I know you try to stay away from kerb boosting and other ways to improve laptimes, but with the Rumpo Custom wiggle boosting really shouldn't be ignored. I'm not nearly as good as you on CCGP, but just after 5 laps I was able to beat your Rumpo laptime by almost 2 seconds (1:15.511). Could be worth mentioning in the top speed video as well ;)
Yeah I hear you. I'll cover it in a separate video. It's difficult to know which way to go with these things but I prefer for the sake of consistency to test without such tricks. But I will cover it in future.
Yea I understand, a separate video is probably the best way to go. Good luck!
Surfer needs love! ...turbo Subaru swaps are a thing IRL ;D
Air Cooled Porsche swaps are also a thing IRL. There's one that takes passengers around Spa
never seen those vids before - thx for mentioning it!
I now actually just noticed that the Paradise still has the same vans engine sound as last gen GTA V/Online, while the Rumpo & all other panel vans has the new sound.
Are the Contender and the Sadler not in this class?
no, Rockstar don't ever seem to know what class to put pickups in. Some of them are in Vans, some are in SUVs, some are in Utility and some are in offroads
JT Michaelson Contender -> SUV Sadler -> Utility
How odd they would make the Contender, the Sadler and the Bison in three different classes despite all three are pick-up trucks. Thanks.
Someone didn't watch the SUVs video... XD
Sorry. I don't catch all videos, but I have watched several.
I almost thought you forgot to mention the rumpo's rolling problem
5:30 WTF?
a wild npc appeared!
NPC used tackle!
But it missed
He's not driving it on his track. All the cones and stuff are missing
He modded the car into Story Mode and set traffic OFF
lol no, he's on PS4
Hey Broughy, 1st, I want to again thank you for doing all this testing. You are doing a great service to the community. 2nd, I want to know if we are aloud to submit 1 or 2 tracks for the Xbox One content creator streams? I submitted 1 a long time ago, and another about a week ago, but I have 1 more I think you would really like. Please respond so I have a clear answer. Thanks again.
I'll never use any of these vans but I'm watching anyway because it's a broughy video.
What I wouldn't give to super mod my surfer van!
I'm trying to collect every car in the game and I was surprised to find you can't even change the colour on the speedo. Really weird.
Or the rumpo
Feel half finished some of the vans
Broughy1322 why no Duke of death?
Watch the muscle car videos
BEST CLASS
Who else would buy the rumpo custom for its amazing horn!
BROUGHY i want to know if theres a difference between the RUSTY surfer and the regular Surfer
I never even thought about that. Cause there is a bit of a difference between the 2. Not sure about performance, but I know for a fact the rusty one has much higher suspension.
Identical in lap time to regular version.
*****
Thanks Broughy
broughy1322 can you make a vid on is Tyrus worth it ?
watch the fastest supers video and you will see that its not worth it
erm I am not all about the speed XD
then this isnt the place to ask
maybe he knows :/
Well, if you're looking for al all round good super car, then the Nero/Nero Custom is it. The Tyrus is just one of those extra cars, it's amazing in the hills and on traction tracks,
The rumpo also feels like it has a lot more body roll, I definitely prefer the Burrito because it always feels more planted in low and high speed corners to me.
because it's really top heavy
I know the bf surfer is the slowest but it's my fav van in the game
"The Rumpo Custom is much much better in terms of cornering" .. I must be doing something wrong because mines tips over like a Robin Reliant in every corner haha
Great vids Broughy! Am I noticing use of the off road wheels here and also in your compact test? If so, is it being used for any benefits? Thanks again for your great work.
It's just to set the cars on the equal place. Less variabilities.
Thnx, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something somewhere lol.
Yea i know that part, thats what im not sure of if it is making a difference because i have seen them on many vids of different classes. The spread sheets are a little out of wack right now and there is the Tryes Can Clip box for off road wearing and some of the cars that I have seen in vids with off roads are showing no check in boxes.
I add them on everything for consistency, even if they don't have an effect. The spreadsheet tyres can clip aspect is still correct and up to date.
Thanks for the info!
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the listing if the gun running update brings any new vans to the table
Awesomeness again
The bf surfer is my fav van
We meet again
Isn't it funny that there are more vans than compact cars ?
Rivado Valon it's funnier than the Futon and the Blista COMPACT aren't in the COMPACTS class.
..... R* scrambles to release a 1:07 Vapid Supervan on the FMJ's floorpan...
Who else is here because Broughy said we must watch the vans testing videos?
#Justiceforvans
Yes!
Will you be doing anymore gta4 racing? it makes a pleasant change
Yes. The video he uploaded was only a small part of a larger stream
Until 3 days ago the entire 3 hour stream footage was on his twitch page, but unfortunately after 2 months they get removed automatically, so now you'll have to wait for all the races to be uploaded to youtube :P
Keep an eye on your subscription box at 5pm UK time on Sunday ;)
Broughy1322 damn you! I'm going to a football game on Sunday. Well if we get beat I have something else to look forward to I suppose :)
It will still be there when you get back ;)
Vans went from being my most hated class to one of my favorites with the help of the bison. Just don't like the feel of the Gang Burrito and the Rumpo Custom is just kinda boring. Bison got that acceleration and just feels like a thrill to drive.
To each their own :D
and with the bf surfer it is not boring it's the best real van in the game because the bison is not a van it's a truck to me
Yo, where'd you find a Bobcat with a topper!?
who here to get their team green VAN 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Hi Broughy why are the Vans laptimes missing from your spreadsheet (and also Off-Road and some others...)?
An oversight for Vans. I'll add them in. Off-roads and others haven't gone through re-testing yet
Broughy1322 oh OK so there are updated lap times and if there is a game update you delete the lap times until you get the chance to test them again... That makes sense
Hi, broughy told me to go here
Wrong one, I even linked the new one which came out on Tuesday in the description XD
slap rally masters + wiggle boosting on the rumpo custom and you are 3 secs quicker than the gang burritos haha
Isn't the beater Surfer different on lap time to the normal Surfer? It has different suspension.
Nope
Ok, thanks.
Can I use the rumpo custom in races?
Cool
Will off-roads be next? after the vans top speed video tomorrow, of course.
10:07
oh thanks man. I couldn't watch with the sound when i checked it out earlier
where in the north east do you live?
I own most of these XD, makes a change from driving super and sports cars. Where would the moonbeam and the custom version fit into the class?
The moonbeam would be in 2nd place, 0.067 slower than the rumpo. GG Rockstar
I crai at the moonbeam custom's amazing balancing for this class.
When is the off-road class coming??
in two weeks
10:07
@Broughy1322 aah right, cheers. Really love your videos and advice, much appreciated - keep up the good work!!
Never like'd Bison myself. Always used Youga before those update vans. But where is rusty Surfer?! (Totally have different suspension!)
Identical in lap time to regular version.
OK. Thanks! I have not really done any proper testing, but I'm quite sure, that there is difference in offroad situation! (But I could be wrong, as my tests are far from proper testing!)
what class is cognoscenti and cognoscenti 55 in?
baba tundae they are in the sedans class
sedans
Thnx for the video i wanted to buy a van so i can get kids in by ssying that i have candies
Is this video still accurate?
Check the playlist for any updates, all the latest class specific videos are are the top
You have to redo vans : the Armored Boxville isn't one here.
Already have, check the playlist.
Wich video?
Yeah, I jnow you've tested it, but its not the official van complete list, so I think a fastest van 2018 should maybe be done
You could do a short fact finding video on wiggle boosts since the Rumpo custom benefits a lot from that. You should also cover short shifting in a video because the effect is huge :)
I'll cover both in a future video.
Broughy... are we missing a slalom test? The Rumpo Custom is prone to flipping over, as you very well pointed out, while the Gang Burrito is pretty "planted". We need some sort of objective test exposing that sort of weakness... like the Faction... (hilarious racing on that topic)...
Yes, your subjective review matches ours, but can we quantify that? Also, that cornering oversteer bug would be made evident in some sort of slalom test much sooner.
Perhaps you could run more complex tests on a limited series, with just a dozen hand-picked models, instead of running the full gamut of tests on all cars. Cars that we know to be buggy, prone to flipping, erratic behavior, you know, those special snowflakes that we suspect that could expose bugs, and cause all sort of unexpected and downright bizarre crashes... Even if for just research purposes... just some brainstorm rambling here...
My answer to that is this video: ruclips.net/video/Ev7S7YbkYU0/видео.html
how come you never tested the Duke of death?
watch the muscle class videos
Tested months ago in muscle video indeed.
it's not there I just watched it it didn't come out months ago
Amazing.
Broughy1322
that's the stock pre release Duke of death not the one you can modify online
Is this track ok Xbox?
yes, it's called Cutting Coroners GP. You can find it here: bit.ly/BroughysTracks
Amazing video, but I mean really? Who races in vans or even drives them?
John Zennaro the people in Broughy's crew
lol they didn't even bother giving the minivan a name
avin r they did, they called it the Minivan
Where's off road class ?
10:07
Sports cars and vans are 2 completely different things ,ones for racing and others for transporting thing, so please don't compare them
He was just making a general comment on their performance. He wasn't saying that one is objectively better than another
I guess you can put it that way ,I've nothing again broughy he's one my favourite youtubers😀
can someone help me getting the Stock burrito, i help to get the speedo
Broughy getting lazy
Only 4 laps with the Surfer :Kappa:
Bison (Van)
Sadler (Utility)
Contender (SUV)
Me (-_-)
Surfer and the Journey are the best vans I am sure you did something wrong.
Deekah 3B same here I love the surfer it's a vw bus
offroad!
10:07
Broughy1322 hahah OK maybe first watch then comment xd great vid like always!!
I wonder what a custom Speedo can do, cause some people have it
shame no one do van sedans offroad etc this days. only this stupid stunt races
i think we all know that the burrito is secretly the fastest
tldr: taco van is the fastest van
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Jão Pão nope beat by 4 secs.
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