What meditation is not | Krishnamurti & Oliver Hunkin
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2020
- Extract from an interview with Oliver Hunkin. The full interview is available on episode 13 of our podcast. ⠀ ⠀
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@@kft It is fantastic that on your website, people chose at the beginning of the podcasts "La Cathédrale Engloutie" of Claude Debussy. I used to play this piece. It is the story of something (a mythic city) which is engulfed, and then, come out, and be engulfed again. This choice is beautiful.
@@maxchapuis6256 Well spotted!
@@kft thanks 🙏
@@kftthanks a million 🙏🏼
How childlike innocence and utter maturity go hand in hand!!! Such an extra ordinary being. Love and respect to you sir.
"childlike" is an idea, and alluring
❤
Krishnamurti was a gift to humanity and the world.
A gift that I suspect many have not understood. It is a pity.
@@sureshkumarbalakrishnan8915, what if it is not pity, and when every individual in which that can not be individual it will come to this singular particular point before understanding the totality of living is and that which can not be named or can not be replaced by the duality of words. of any explanation whatsoever, may your mind rest into its a natural gift and your heart be your compass and you will get wherever you want. I wanna believe that life is fair for everyone and would be understood by everyone. let go, surrender and love, and peace. and repeat.
But who was hi I don't know him🧐🧐
@@fouad6244 wow🙏❤️
The way he says "nonesense" 😂🤣
This was a Beautiful Human.
😁
So true..it’s rare for Him to be outspoken like that. He seldom tread on that path of controversy. Cracked me up with surprise to hear those words from Him.
One of the best places on RUclips
Yes!!
Yupp when ur sick of the recent modern things
Yes it is..
Yes Sir ❤️
Just came across Krishnamurti. The timing in my journey is perfect cause I can grasp these dialogue’s and internalize them rather it just be a surface level knowing.
"Empty everything you known
Otherwise you cannot know the unknown" superb words
So much love in his eyes 😍
No such things. Eyelids can only open and close vertically. The "love" is merely in your own perception.
@@Tazy50 everything that you believe exists may only be in your own perception
@@georgetester you are deeply missing the point of what he was trying to teach.. everyone always has to state their opinion, give their spew on a matter but why? lets all agree we all can be wrong and just shut up and listen to whats being said and not add to it...thank you
@@sayikrishnapk8868 exactly
Yes..love and innocence 😁
The excitement he has inside him.. ❤️
Yes, it is so infectious 🤩
❤
its called being human
it is like when he talks about meditation, the excited child in him wakes up. he is a very beautiful human being.
I love this man, with a great respect for him. Krishnamurti is an extraordinay and a simple man at the same time.
When as a young adult I was awakened to the religious trauma of my youth, I became determined to find "essence" - some sort of truth stripped completely of both ritual & cultural trappings as well as categorization (eg, psychological, spiritual or religious). It's been 35 years and an almost impossible quest, but here JK validates what I have discovered deep in the Upanishads, Buddha's teachings and the writings of all true mystics ...which I could paraphrase as: "the only truth is your direct experience... don't take our word for it, we just say what's worked for us... go find out for yourself... in fact, you have to find out for yourself, or it isn't true 'essence' or Truth". This realization has helped a great deal in my healing.
The best way to control something is to stop deliberately trying to control it and allowing it to come under control naturally.
but if you deliberately try to stop controlling something, you're deliberately still trying to control it
It made me about 2yrs to know this little things....
@@nilete809 Reminds me of Alan Watts! - "The first rule is, 'don't try to'. Because if you do, you will be like someone trying to make rough water smooth with a flat iron. And all that will do is stir it up. So in the same way as a muddy turbulent pool quiets itself when left alone, you have to know how to leave your mind alone."
@@nilete809 You may be too far gone to save 😂
@@nilete809 Exactly. I said stop deliberately trying not deliberately stop trying 😃
Two months since, I've realised that allowing it to come under control naturally is easier by telling yourself, "it's okay; it's okay if I can't control it; it's okay if I fail; it's okay if I get out next ball (cricket). It's okay if I get the math wrong" 🙂 and then becomes easy and natural...
K is talking about Simplifying, taking away the methods and guidelines and templates. Initially, it is attention. From attention comes awareness. The deeper you go into pure awareness, mind becomes redundant in the state of BEING.
Was Bruce Lee influenced by him at all? I thought I read he was - seems to reflect Lee's basic philosophy
@@michaelharper3049Yes, Bruice Lee was influenced by JK. Lee read many JKs books while he was recovering.
"The silence is not the product of suppression of noise, it is not the opposite of noise".
Super video of a very very misunderstood topic. Thanks for uploading.
"Concentration on the particular thing is not the meditation" ,,,,this is eye opener for me,,,,greatest philosopher jiddu Krishnamurti
the innocence he has is just like that of a child and the respect with which he talks is so heart warming
We are children of this place called Earth, so when one thinks like that it is odd we pretend to be adults...
5:23 "and then, in that silence, everything happens"
Everything happens means what
@@prvn1662 that is where you come to know ultimate truth
His speech delivery is so satisfying 😇
To know the truth you must empty the mind. Lovely.
Krishnamurti is one of the greatest being this planet has had
these are the best words I have ever come across
As I felt over 50 years ago in Meiner's Oaks
Yes K’s words are wonderful. I eventually came to realize this truth . . . but in the beginning I did use meditative aids, objects, techniques and practices - against which K just spoke, and I do agree with him. They are not meditation. For me they were transitional stepping stones, as they helped me quiet my mind. Once it was quiet then I began to realize and experience what K is describing here. And he is right, was he describes is true meditation.
I won’t say what anyone should do or how they should reach the stage that K is describing. But I am thankful that I made it there, and so I am grateful for those stepping stones even though they weren’t quiet right.
I wonder what I will realize next.
@@carpenterfamily6198 how can you truly know it? There must be some identity that identifies with this so called state. Is this not an illusion? Sorry for saying this so bluntly, I'm just curious.
@@carpenterfamily6198 I daresay he would't object at all -- as you have come to these things organically, from the inside out not the other way. You found your own way and that is what he hoped for you:)
To see the best full explanation (best not efficient I must admit) of these teachings, watch the 1974 18 part discussion with Alan W Anderson in San Diego. Anderson is a genius in his own way, he helps to bring out the ideas better than any other.
His smile is really so authentic😇
Remember on that silence to have sovereignty or else Gurus will whisper in ones ear to direct thinking. "Anyone who tells you he has some way of leading you to spiritual enlightenment is like somebody who picks your pocket and sells you your own watch...." -- Alan Watts (c.1955)
I adore the the way this man used to speak. So calm,so wise.
RARE ENLIGHTENED SOUL!!!
This man is one of the greatness servants of humanity.
brilliant clip. thank you JK and all those who keep him fresh and alive for all future generations.
His energy can be felt across time and technology.🙏🏾
Wisdom within Wisdom, served within a couple of sentences. That was the greatness of this man 🙏
we are so fortunate to have these incredible talks by him.
So true!! RUclips is a blessing!!
One of the best explanation I ever got.
Absolutely the case for me too. Unfortunately not many understand the deep meaning of his words.
@@sureshkumarbalakrishnan8915 His teachings are not for everyone. Not everyone wants to listen to the truth because ego makes a lot of noise
so what he is saying is meditation is observing thoughts not stopping thoughts?
@@MindlessTube just observing and understanding our thoughts as objects of the mind, just things. And so being able to step back and detach from them.
@@amanjain2306 Agreed Sir.
I listened to this in complete meditative state.
He is seeing what ordinary mortals like us could not see.... His philosophy is like a feeling understandable yet elusive.....great soul that he is..... Soul is eternal
Your breath, Your thought , Your awareness - that is meditation.
Spitting facts there. Also love how exited he gets when talking about meditation.
I see the questioner has the taste of it
questioners who are as observant and as much of an active participant as the one in this interview always aid in the conveying of the speaker’s message😊
Krishnamurti the only person I have seen without ego or creating any identity
Yes, that was a simple genius on earth, incomparable to any gurus, advisors, teachers, psychologists etc... Charming, clear and easy...
To watch your mind brings about the futility of the this chattering and then there is a sudden dropping of thoughts and a gradual dawn of a silent mind
Amazing isn't it?
Turns out I was meditating for quite some time but not realizing it, and for all the times I have tried to meditate, I was doing it all wrong.
The classic style of meditation is still very good for the heart and body. In this video Krishnamurti comes off as a saint but the truth is he was a very unhappy person. Meditate however you want, but also keep in mind what Jiddu is saying- truth is not static and the present can never fully be seen with a mind drenched in the past.
@@kellykiernan7785 how do you know he was a very unhappy person
@@kellykiernan7785 he is the opposite of an unhappy person really XD
Your life is the subject of your meditation. Muse over it. Be silent and let the insights come.
Before you learn to walk, it seems impossible. Before you learn to ride a bicycle, it seems unimaginable. You don't need to try to walk, do you? You don't need to try to ride a bicycle, do you? It's no different with meditation. The effort is perceived because it is unfamiliar. Once it is familiar, it is effortless.
A great comment ❤
In my younger years I came across Krishnamurti and I was affected by his view of meditation which for me makes it very enjoyable. Just watch and observe, don't suppress or use effort to silence the mind. This approach seems to take away that furrowed-brow approach to opening up, and if my forehead is all scrunched up then observe that too. There seems to be less of an agenda while meditating and it makes consciousness more trusting.
'..conscious more trusting': beautifully put the essence.
So well put 😊
Thanks for a fine comment ❤
How extraordinary energy he has, with the mind fully alert, alive express thru his eyes and face and his voice. Real holistic human being.
Wow so clarity about Meditation,Thanks God I find this ,give me strength to practice this 🙏
I say this with the utmost sincerity to you my friend. You were given all the strength that you would require or need when you were brought into existence.
🤗😊
He has clarity. He said, meditation can't be a practice and I still you call it a practice, and a method. Therefore real listening is so important.
That innocence on his face is just mesmerizing,
My god, this stuff is some thing beyond scope of my intelligence
Never say that, if you carefully listen you will understand it. You are scopeless if you have the will for it.
Not at all my friend. A great philosopher once said- wonder is the first step towards understanding. You are humble for saying these words and that humility shows intelligence beyond what any impressive ideas could.
you can try to understand step by step every sentence he sais, instead of trying to grab tho whole picture directly
I had my first spiritual breakthrough through JK 40 years ago. I struggled for many months to understand what he was saying as there are no formulas, methods, nothing to grasp on with him.
Later i took other easier paths but now thanks to all the videos i see his greatness. You will understand him, just keep trying.
Wow !
Im learning about ‘Meditation‘ in whole new light …🙏
What Profound Thinking’ & School of Thought’ 👌👌
J k krishnamurti great master all the time
Respect from bottom of my heart
Thanks for the subs, sometimes i found it hard to understand Krishnamurti, but the subs help me understand better. Thanks once again 🙏🏻
I love you! You are more alive than ever!! 🙏❤️
Krishnamurti speaks the Truth and yes this interview shows what real meditation is THANKYOU
2:53 *in your own time!*
So iconoclastic 😢 to those to whom meditation includes concentration on an image or a guru or a mantra. And so reasoned that one has no option but to agree. Great.
Thank you so much for this! J.Krishnamurthy 🙏
Such wisdom comes when one treads on the path for a considerable amount of time
Every smile of J. Krishnamurti here is like a smile of an angel.
He knows what he is talking about. I agreed.
Stunning in his simplicity
This is the most wonderful &simple explanation ....hits the core
Krishnamurti. Thaank you from my heart.You get straight to the ppoint wvery time i listen to you.I like the short talks or innterviews as have a longtime habit of too many words. Just enough.
He is truly amazing.
That was truthfully liberating!
Meditation is all about being with Being that you are.
Beautiful conversation
Thanks K foundation ❤❤❤
My dear jiddu... how much wisdom on his words
Yeah 😊 thank you so much for posting this 😊😘
So Beautiful, Thank You🙏
I just LOVE Krishnamurti ❤Thank You for Your clear talk ! Thank You for being direct and focused on all the important matters consearning the minds of mankind❤Thank You to the people Who recognised You and made theese, to me very important videos with You. According to my own spiritual upbringing they give me a much brighter light to consciousness than ever🌳
Brilliant! 👌This state of mind is ultimatum of salvation🙏💜☮️🙏
This is beyond awesome
Thank you for updating this
Extraordinary.
So beautiful!!
Enlightened human being
A man well ahead of his time I would say.
@@sureshkumarbalakrishnan8915 yes u both are right
@@sureshkumarbalakrishnan8915 And yet ever relevant!!!
@@rravi1045 truth has no time (:
Dangerous word. How can you truly know that? It only brings belief into being, does it not? Sorry for speaking so bluntly. Just curious.
This man is extraordinary
Beautiful ♥️Thank you
Krishnamurti's definition of meditation is true and insightful with regard to true meditators.
True meditators practice with awareness, observation and clearly understand the ultimate purpose of our journey in this life.
However, for a beginner this can be very difficult to understand. Krishnamurti will fly over them.
For non-meditators, it would be nearly impossible to understand, leave alone practicing it.
For pseudo-meditators, Krishnamurti is a great conversation starter for a social party 🎈 🎊 🎉.
Expression of thought is a talent which very a few possess !
Thank you!
This is the first time that I see him smiling and so pleasing
Intensely beuatiful. Imitation of life
Thanks a lot
Just wow! 🙏
First time seeing him. I like to listen when there is truth. Wise man.
Same my guy🙏🏽💯
Thanks for this pearl.
How fortunate are the people who talked with JK sir I wish I had that opportunity
All I can say is that was so refreshing and fun.
"It comes when the mind has completely understood itself" 4:53 -Krishnamurti
What a lovely man.
He is a beyond super genius,,,,, he was something far far different than we think about him,,,,,,he is out of understanding of the world,,,,, even a single man in the world doesn't understand what he is saying but we trying our best to understand his teachings
He is absolutely beautiful
Absoletly straitforword, personality, to the point😇he was a god gift to the mankind.
We can see child like excitement in his eyes
Thank you.
Sir you are great. . . .
I love this guy
such beauty and profound speaking
Thank you ☺
Namaste for Grace received
Wao, nobody has defined meditation like this before
wonderful explanation to the meditation
Beautiful
Exceptional