Can the Grid handle all these EVs? | Cody Smith, CA ISO, RC West | The InEVitable
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- MotorTrend's Ed Loh & Jonny Lieberman sit down with Grid Operations Manager for California ISO/RC West - Cody Smith! The big question on everyone's mind - "Can the grid handle all these EVs?" Let's discuss...
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Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes right now, and yes with planned targets.
Longer answer: Not only can it handle them, with the increase in V2L/V2G, EVs might actually *HELP* the grid.
These grid arguments are based on the assumption people level 2 charge all night long, which is absurd. At that rate you get your average commute charge in less than 2 hours. In my case I slow the charger down from 32 to 5A and let it charge overnight slowly, which is the rate of an average air conditioner. If your grid can handle it, you probably live in a 3rd world country.
I do something similar: charge 2x a week at 26a overnight.
It's nice to hear someone who is balanced and humble talk in an educated way. This was a great conversation.
Best episode yet. Love this content.
Don't need all the evs. Most effective way is to charge at night .
You guys should interview someone from Nitrocross. Their Group E class is awesome! Tanner Foust? Travis Pastrana? Lia Block?
I heard recently there is new requirement in California for EV's to be bi- directional , and of course Tesla currently is not...
What about the raw materials to keep making batteries for all these vehicles
Same place that Dino juice is coming from...which also isn't infinite
Debunked over and over. Batteries like Lithium Iron Phosphate chemistries already have much lower impact than NCM chemistries, and the minerals can be recycled many times over after they're extracted. Soon even friendlier chemistries like sodium ion batteries will reach the mass market. Fossil fuels need endless mining/drilling/fracking.
Transitioning to BEVs would cut truck and ocean ship traffic down immensely because so much of that is just moving fossil fuels around (extraction to refining to dispensing for consumption).
Tulsa, OK?
Wouldn't it be crazy if the batteries they're using are peoples' cars and he's being intentionally ambiguous about it?
The secret sauce is outsourcing battery storage.
Not buying electric till there is no other option.
I was thinking about it the other day while watching the grand tours last show.
We are the last generation to feel the throm of a V8 and have that visceral feeling of a gas engine launching you down the road, the noise, the smell, the excitement!
Modern cars are just appliances like a toaster or a washing machine.
I want to see hydrogen combustion.
Maybe I'm just old but i hate l the computer screens in the car and silent motors, gone will be the days of you and your mates go rhoud to each others houses and get greasy and dirty and modding each others cars.
I feel sorry for future generations
It's not because you're old. Luddites come at all ages. Imagine your ancestors having this same argument when the Model T came out - weighing the pros of using a well fed high quality horse to get around as opposed to that loud weird sounding cart you fill like a oil lantern.
I'm old, and feel extremely lucky to have lived long enough to be a part of this technological evolution.
@@ElMistroFeroz luddite,
lol, i like it. I'm not opposed to future technologies actually, like i said I'm down with hydrogen, infact i worked for a company called Air Liquide who are supplying hydrogen in Europe for hydrogen cars and did a lot of work with a company called Global bus Ventures in their design if the first hydrogen buses in NZ.
I just dont like electric vehicles, they bore me, i like a bit of analogue and a bit of new, i like the sound of an engine, when you hear a 7.1L V8 tearing down a drag strip its a feeling you dont forget.
I fly planes and i can see the point in electric short haul planes, my favourite holiday spot is 3hrs drive but 30mins from my house if i fly, this would be perfect for electric.
But concider this. And ive researched it so i do know what im talking about.
Until the aluminium carbon batteries come out that Elon has promised we are stuck with toxic lithium batteries, one of the main ingredients is Cobalt, cobalt is largely mined in Africa.. by child slaves as young as 3yrs old, then we have the wastelands that the lithium mines create, then we have to ship all of those ingredients from one part of the world to another in diesel ships, then we have the nations who are still using coal and natral gas to power their grids, at least in part. Then the answer to that is store the power in more, highly flamible, toxic batteries that have had billions of tons of carbon pumped in to the atmosphere for shipping their ingredients and the slave labour and wastelands that that creates in the process to store some of the solar power produced to eek us through some of the evening.
Contrast, we make hydrogen cars, some, hydrogen electric and some hydrogen combustion, everyone in service stations keeps their job because the petrol manufacturers can switch to producing hydrogen, this means the rig worker get to keep a job because we can also suck hydrogen out of the ground.
Hydrogen is stored in bullet proof vessels and if it was to vent at 700bar (the standard pressure for a hydrogen tank in a car) or about 10,000psi, it will blow a flame out and vent to atmosphere in 0.6 seconds rendering the gas inert and there is no danger of an explosion or fire.
My brother who works as a fire fighter said the most common fire he goes to now is a lithium electric fire and they can only contain them, they cant put them out, tou can completely submerge a lithum car under water and it will still burn because it creates its own oxygen.
Contrary to popular belief, hydrogen doesnt explode, it is only and acceleratant speeding up and existing fire and will only ignite if the concentration is great enough.
Butbi like the name calling, that was awesome! Hehehe
Kool
@@shanekeat7473I can see not getting into some tech out of principle. I tend to have trouble finding the right principle to fight for in this area due to the fact I live in a developed nation. From wondering how many children I’ve enslaved since I started using cell phones to considering to who gets hurt every time I place an order in Amazon. I really hope Hydrogen picks up if it carries no guilt. On the bright side, it will open a new market and opportunities for investors due to the fact the average joe can’t easily refuel them at home, leading to more jobs. I’m just too old to rely on them and all the neediness of their products.
As far as everything else you said, I’m sure you’ve done a lot of research. But the one big difference between EV and ICE owners is that the EV owner has a first hand perspective on both, whereas the ICE owner draws their wealth of wisdom second hand, and in best case scenario, a claim a “friend” makes.
Speaking about the first hand perspective, before I became involved with this technology I did months of research, but it was only after I became an owner that I found out the depths of the deception/mis direction and fear mongering out there. In winter the go to punchlines is supercharger lines/range. In summer it’s spontaneous fires. I’m not calling you a liar or your brother, but what I am saying is that if you care about truth, skepticism really helps.
@@shanekeat7473Nothing wrong with being a luddite (I no longer think you are btw). I have a lot of friends who are. And if I were vested in hydrogen technology I would also know many many firefighters claiming gas car fires are less common than their EV counterparts. In fact I’d even be tempted to claim Hydrogen is an inert gas if I were in a good enough mood.