BIKE REVIEW - Propain Rage CF
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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This is a breakout video from our 2022 DH Bike Test Sessions. Watch the three-part series here:
Episode 1: • TESTING & RACING 4 Dow...
Episode 2: • Rider Down ☠️ - Vital...
Episode 3: • Downhill BIKE REVIEWS ...
Over 15 years ago, the materialization of German brand Propain Bicycles coincided with the release of their inaugural model, the Rage. A thoroughbred race bike since its inception, the Rage has undergone six iterations over the years, each sharing the same PRO10 suspension design. The latest Rage CF model was introduced in July 2021, after two years of development and feedback from Propain Factory Racing. With a new suspension layout, full carbon frame, mixed wheel compatibility, and updated geometry, Propain aimed to modernize and evolve its downhill platform to offer riders a versatile, robust, and capable race bike.
Rage CF Highlights
Blended carbon frame
215mm (8.4-inches) rear travel // 200mm (7.8-inches) fork travel
29-inch wheels
63-degree head tube angle
Adjustable geometry via flip chip (allows for mixed wheel setup)
Adjustable chain stay length: 445/460mm
RockShox Boxxer Ultimate fork
RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil shock (2023 model)
SRAM XO1 7-speed drivetrain with 165mm carbon cranks
SRAM Code RSC brakes with 220/200mm rotors
29x2.35-inch Schwalbe Magic Mary tires
Newmen Evolution DH wheels
12 x 157mm rear hub spacing
Threaded bottom bracket
Internal cable routing
ISCG05 chain guide mounts
1.5-inch steerer tube
Sizes: medium, large (tested), X-large
MSRP: $6,029 USD (Performance Build)
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Hmm.. Having a bike with the option to change the chainstay length from 445mm (obviously nimbler) to 460mm (obviously more compliant and also what the Propain UCI DH team rides) and NOT testing the long setting whilst complaining about the nervosity of the bike? In addition, a fork with bushing play that will of course cause arm fatigue and leave an even more nervous impression of the bike under high-frequency bumps. I've to admit that I’d love to see a test update on the Propain Rage… apart from this: Good job VitalMTB! As always.. 🙂
Yeah that´s what i thought. After all a blown up fork is not representative to the whole bike. Maybe they switched the CS-Settings, but it did not change for the better. who knows. i would love to see some insights on this. what were the problem solving strategies. what was changed, what wasn´t. But all in all, i really loved this series of videos :)
It certainly looks the most badass out of all bikes on test.
mine is coming next week
that's kind of weird. entirely possible that the whole issue was a combination of fork not working correctly and bearing/shock bushing issue through loose bolts or even damaged bearings. when the bike just does not feel right it's so hard to tell what the issue is, the speculations can be totally off.
that being said, loose bearing bolts is a total no-go for me. reason for this is mostly production dimensions being off, so unpredictable stress is put on bearings and hardware. often times manufacturers will tell you you should have tightened the bolts, that is absolutely unacceptable. would be nice to hear how propain would handled the issue, I've seen an al tyee with a lost bolt and axle being pushed halfway off bearing before being noticed, happened on the trail :(
The new shock placement is a million times better looking! Its a good looking bike
Not sure if it is similar issue on the Rage, but I have a 2022 Propain Tyee and it took me some fiddling to get the front and rear to have a balanced feel. I attribute some of that to the really progressive 30% leverage curve. I have a 2023 RS SD Ultimate coil on it and really had to slow the rebound and stiffen up the fork a bit to make everything feel in snyc. But now that it is set up better, the bike is blowing me away. I was getting some arm pain one long runs using the stock bar, but since swapping to the OneUp Carbon and PNW XL loam grips, that is largely not an issue now. That stock chainguard on the Tyee is HARD plastic, so it causes some slapping noise. I put mastic tape over it and it helped a decent bit, not sure if there is a similar problem on the Rage.
I also have the ‘22 Tyee, with the later version of the RS.U. Coil. It also took me some time to balance the fork & shock. I also have the OneUp bar on. Super smooth now. Yea, that chain guard can be annoying loud.
Did this guy just say "jump tech flow trail"?
It’s a mt creek thing
how about running highspeed in long chainstay option?is this bike good for racing in long chainstay?
Better probably
Also if you're smaller than those guys it will suit you better
@@hannes6114 I'm 15 and i have a yt tues 2020 27.5,but the reach is 427 and im 172 cm tall,yt is a bit small for me, i want to buy propain,but im a guy riding for speed instead of joy
the guys in video says propain is selling for bikepark rider,now i dont want propain
Yeah, mabe not the bike for you
@@maxxian7 if you are into speed a Bike that is Mid or High pivot is the way to go because their geometry are built for speed or bike brands that is on UCI Downhill
I own one of these (29/27 XL), and I can relate to some of the opinions given by the testers, but definitely disagree with others: First, the bike is surprisingly VERY agile (for its long chainstay) and really feels like a trail bike with huge capabilites. Second, also true, it is loud because it amplifies every rattle through its huge downtube. The solution is to find those ratlles and velcro the hell out of them.
Third, also true, some bolts have a tendency to loosen, and if that happens, the whole thing feels terrifying considering the amplification of the vibrations. I presume that a little busing play in the forks must be the reason why they thought the bike was unpredictable.
This is the part I most disagree on, because when everything is torqued and well setup, the bike is sooo good... mine has FOX susp. and it feels light, very easy to corner, but keeps composure in the rough as a downhill bike should. And in the face of jumps you can feel exactly where in the travel you are, jumps are just easy.
I honestly think if they would have tried the mullet, with a different fork, and maybe in the long chainstay setting, this test would have been very different. Kind of a cursed week for the vital boys... cheers for the work anyways and healing vibes to Dennis!
how tall are you?
@@extremepartyanimals 1.88m. I was scared that the XL might have been a little bit too much, but its not.
It sucks to hear about some of the issues with this bike because it looks so damn good, the price is pretty awesome and I was considering it for my first Downhill bike build. On to the next one I guess. YT Tues 29? Canyon Sender CFR? Santa Cruz V10?
Did you decide? I’m in the same boat haha
same
Haha same :D
(1 year late) same
Good job:)
I absolutely love the new Zeb, but yeah, the current Boxxer scares me on every bike I touch with it. It feels like toothpicks compared to the new thiccbois
U probably super fat. I bet your legs feel like toothpicks compared to your fat gut.
a lot of WC champs and Rampage winners seem fine with them
FWIW, pros have been on a "blackbox" version of the boxxer for the last two seasons.
@@bimfred I agree, a lot better riders than me are making them work just fine - especially when they're being paid to do so. You just see everyone migrating away from the 35mm stanchions when they can, and I'm sure, once Rockshox burns through what's left of their 35mm stock, they'll switch gears to only sell the new 38mm+ BlackBox/R+D Boxxers that you see on Kade Edwards, Vali Holls, and others bikes
@@Antnerd funny how several EWS riders say the ZEB or 38 is too stiff too eh!
Think about the riders these items are pitched to - overwhelmingly they are rank amateurs.
it sucks that they do not offer shimano builds :/
Does that really matter with dh drivetrains?
@@hannes6114 I think he is speaking about brakes. I feel like shimano saint drivetrain is worse than sram gx or x01 dh anyway, and I own one
yeah makes sense, but I think they at least have Formula and Magura, still not Shimano tho
@@hannes6114 I owned Formula cura 4 and Magura mt7 in the past, now I have saints, I think formula are the best, Shimano too (easy bleed and reliable) but too on/off maybe. So I think they have plenty of options for sure. I would go with gx and formula brakes on this bike
@@leobrt9528 You really think they're better than the MT7?
Shram?
First complaint is seat too high? Cmon man stop wasting our time with that.. cut the damn seatpost and move the seat forward a few mm if it buzzes the tire at bottomout.
He said the seat TUBE (where the post goes in) is too high, and it is. You cant lower the seat enough.
its low enough
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I would never buy a Propain, Canyon, Radon, YT!
I wanna know what brands to avoid yeah I heard bad feedbacks on Canyon and YT carbon frames but maybe you know the things Why it is awful
why wouldn't you buy a propain have you ever ridden one? they ride much better then a canyon and the don't snap.
@@innisnettle Why would you buy have you ridden one? Same thing its either you ride one or if it have bad review like im out
Cool
@@ROSE-by5su I own a Propain and it is a. Awesome bike. The review didn’t make much sense like the bike was to small they could of got a reach adjust headset or a larger size smaller bike feel more playful and longer bike fell for stable and there main reason they didn’t like is it wasn’t stable at speed Thayer should of got a bigger bike to start with and they should have serviced all the component before the test its not Propain fault that rock shox messed up the fork most of the time they do and they need a service to feel optimal have a bad fork completely throws of the balance of the bike and destroys the ride quality. The thing about screw coming is a very easy fix lock right exists. In conclusion I think it would have been much more equitable if they got the right sized bike and the components where all at 100%. But if your opinion was completely change by one short review on the internet with no real structure or proper compassion point then I would that there are no bad reviews or Propain trail bike and are great.