Real Pilot demonstrates Forced Landing - What Trevor Jacobs could have done! (MSFS)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Having watched the poor performance and ethics of Trevor Jacobs - I felt the need to demonstrate the proper considerations and techniques that should have been used in his situation. I'm not a taildragger pilot, and I'm not going 100% 'by the book' - but you'll get a flavour of the actions and considerations that go into an engine failure/forced landing scenario. This is just a very quick 'dive' into what Trevor Jacobs could have done when his 'engine failed.'
I don't want to promote Trevor Jacobs video so here's a link to Trent Palmer discussing why Trevor's engine failure video is so suspect: • Pilot Reacts To Trevor...
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"What Trevor Jacobs could have done!" - there have been many suggestions of what he could have done better in the situation. The best I have seen so for was for him to not turn off the engine.
Lol
or not to turn it on in the first place
...or disconnect the fuel line...or have the door popped before the engine starved from lack of fuel.
It was an obvious "stunt" from the get-go.
Trevor had to do something to get more views on his channel. Bloody stupid ego-stunt...
What could've Trevor done better? His ACTING.
Engine failure memory items:
1. GoPros - ON
2. Jump
you forgot "grab selfie stick" lol
😂😂
-1. Buy an old plane
0. Take your skydive rig with you
3. Walk you ass back to your plane remains,... uphill
6) Haul parachute and pack all over the place for no good reason.
did you add the weight/drag of the go pros? lol
😂
Such a solid comment. Love this! Nice one Steven!
🤣👌🏽
lmao
Omg hahahhaha
I had a situation where I had practiced in the sim a forced landing only for it to happen for real the next day ! the sim practice was invaluable, the sim was a little over optimistic in the glide performance but was close enough for the high and low key sight picture to be about the same, result was I felt prepared and knew it was within the glide envelope and landed just fine.
Beautiful! Sims are much better these days but often the glide performance is usually a little off.
Wow what a blessing haha there’s no coincidences there.
I always wondered how well my sim time would translate to being more prepared in air.
Great example of it.
Going to practice some emergency landings..
@@echoe09 Me too! I am no pilot (neither is Trevor so I am in good company) but I have put hundreds of hours into flight sims, and flown in experimental bug smashers with friends in real life. I am just waiting for the whole flight deck to go down for some reason, and the tower unreachable so I can land that big ole Airbus a380 all by myself and save the day! *This is just as believable as Trevor's story* :)
I know of a case in South Africa where a guy with only sim experience had to fly the Cessna 210 after the pilot had a heart attack and died at the controls. The sim pilot landed it perfectly at the airfield which was the planned destination.
@@stewartw.9151 awesome!
One correction from your comment about best glide. Best glide does not keep you in the air the longest, it provides the greatest distance covered for a given altitude. Minimum sink speed will keep you in the air the longest (usually a little slower than best glide)... Otherwise, nice video!
It’s great that I get to learn at the same time! I’ll do some more learning, interesting stuff.
Very good point, wonder why that isn’t stressed more
@@arthurbrumagem3844 Because how many minutes you can stay in the air is rarely as important as the distance you can cover. More time aloft isn't generally of any advantage in an emergency situation. On the other hand, increased glide distance increases the amount of area available to you. More area means more options. More time aloft means more time to stare at your limited options.
@@heathwasson7811 I appreciate that comment. As a pilot myself I never had that explained as well. Thanks
@@cgaviator If you're curious about the math, check out the Breguet range and endurance equations. Those are the fundamentals of how far or long a plane can fly and give some insight into how to optimize either range or endurance (if I recall correctly, the math generally shows that your optimal speed for range will be larger than for endurance). Endurance is an energy conservation problem, range is an efficiency problem.
@cgaviator - Excellent! I did a similar MSFS engine out sortie over Trevor's crash site, but starting @10,000 ft as that's the altitude some RUclipsrs were reporting at the time a few days ago. Like you, I used the same MSFS Cub model since it's the closest to Trevor's 1940 Taylorcraft. I killed the engine and immediately set up best glide speed. I then turned left from Trevor's initial approximately-north heading and flew 210 degrees to try to get back out of the inhospitable wilderness area. It wasn't long before I could see a highway along the last ridge. I still had plenty of altitude to clear it and successfully circled and landed in a slightly uphill field and coasted onto the curvy mountain road. LOL my landing wasn't quite as smooth as yours, but successful. There was even a farm/ranch nearby within walking distance that I could have also landed at.
What these exercises prove is there were obviously many suitable landing sites available to Trevor. What's even worse is that he surely was familiar with that area so must have been aware of them. And what's even more telling is there were reports that a few days earlier he had flown over the exact same area where he later jettisoned his vintage aircraft. This leaves little doubt this was simply a pre-planned stunt by a reckless feckless moron.
Regards from Thailand!
Thailand indeed! Thanks for the comments. I'm just wondering if this stunt was cleared in advance. Hopefully find out in a few months
@@cgaviator Hmmm... interesting reply. Who do you think might have "cleared in advance" such a potentially dangerous stunt?
@@Jimbo-in-Thailand it's the only other option i can think of, but it's a stretch that the FAA would authorise it
@@cgaviator LOL it is a bit of stretch that the FAA would authorize such a stunt, but I guess we'll all know once NTSB releases their findings. I can't wait! Haha! Hope they throw the wanker in jail! 😁
No way FAA would clear that. There is no telling where that plane will go unpiloted. It would just open them up for a lawsuit if someone got hurt let alone the fire risk in California right now. I can’t believe it didn’t start a fire
When my dad was teaching he would make arrangements ahead of time with farmers then, without telling them before hand have his students perform an actual, for real, wheels on the ground, full stop, off airport landing just to show them it can be done.
Surprises the hell out of them, but they sure remember it.
As I said, he'd make arrangements with the land owners ahead of time, so he'd know the ground conditions and he would have permission to land there.
Wowzers! Serious training. Can’t remember what the Tutor’s go down to. Think it’s 100-200ft in any field.
@@cgaviator But making a full stop landing off airport proves it can be done. And making arrangements with the land owner gives you a chance to scope things out from the ground ahead of time and those pesky trespassing charges and having to pay for damages.
@@erictaylor5462 think it’s a great idea! 👍🏻
Let's be real, that plane almost landed itself without him.
True enough!
I watched a video the other day where the commenter said "Things started going right once Jacobs left the cockpit." And I don't think it could be more true.
Exactly
@@pookie2986 true, the prop was spinning fast enough to start before it crashed it definitely wasn't a catastrophic engine failure. If it had fuel it would have started lol.
That the saddest thing at this case - the plane really wanted to fly. And that plane was flying/gliding perfectly even without pilot...
Great idea to show how much time you have to sort things out in an engine failure! I was taught to always have a place picked out to land an entire flight. Which I do. Part of flying is to always know your options. And flying with some altitude is monotonous enough to have plenty of time to look around. Thanks for the video!!
Similar to riding a motorcycle.. always keep an escape route in mind. If you’ve you no good options, give yourself enough space so that essentially becomes your route or reposition yourself to get one.
That ☝🏻 totally!
I spent an all-too brief time driving with a senior police driving instructor (retired - he also had taught motorcycles, HGVs, and other driving instructors IIRC) and that was one of many sound bits of wisom that he imparted; I keep it in mind whilst cycling too!
"Best glide will keep you in the air the longest" - It will cover the most distance, minimum sink will keep you in the air the longest. The assumption is of course that trimming for best glide will give you more lz options, however if you have your chosen lz made and you wish to have more time to communicate, prepare, or do engine restart attempts, then trimming for min sink is better. It's also worth pointing out that getting an an unknown lz higher (using best glide), and spending time circling and examining it (min sink) is a good idea. There are many things hard to see from the air, rouge power lines, obstacles, and terrain gradient. Better to land up hill and down wind, than land down hill up wind, so noticing these things are key.
I would pay top dollar to be a fly on the wall in those FAA meetings
with him. Top dollar. I wonder where he is today and what's going
through his mind on a daily bases. The stress must be unbelievable.
Which I'm ok with. He deserves it.
FOR THE CONDORS
I follow him on Instagram ... He seems to be going about his life normally even jumped out of a hot air balloon today... But for some reason on youtube he is silent haha
@@mariosalgado3131 FAA just revoked his pilots license. He made a video calling out the FAA, media, and social media as haters and if they dont like it dont watch his videos. Hes not sorry at all, currently running a t-shirt campaign to pay his lawyer fees. t-shirt says "Always fly with a Parachute"
His video may have been more interesting, if he actually performed an emergency landing.
Ben, you are absolutely correct! I thought about that, and am quite certain that he would have received a lot of support even though it would still catch some flak because of the location. At least he wouldn't have had the entire community on his back for the stupid grade-c acting and thoughtless endangerment.
So pleased to see you do a video on this. Seen a few but was hoping to see your take. I really hope the FAA remove his licence as he is a danger to others and disgrace to aviation. Especially when he was only a turn away from being over a ridge and towards flatter land.
It was easy inspiration to give a bush forced landing a go that’s for sure.
Using external view is not cheating! Real mountain aviators crawl outside of the plane to properly survey a good landing spot upon engine failure. Just kidding!
Haha… I have seen some guys reach out to spin the prop. On RUclips somewhere!
@@cgaviator I sometimes like to joke with my flight instructor: "is your seatbelt on? I wanna try something. I saw this in a cartoon but I'm pretty sure we can do it...." I fly with two different instructors to keep my instrument skills sharp. One has a sense of humor, one doesn't.... ;)
@@Senor0Droolcup 😂 don’t get them confused!
Tbh Trevor Jacobs probably had a video feed from all his GoPros so he DID have external view ;)
@@mumblecake251 lol, ultimate arrogance. Live feed viewed by Trevor!
He's a skydiver as well, he knows ALL about gliding landings it's how you do every landing under a chute. I honestly think his best option now is the come clean and admit guilt.
Vinegar strokes... ahhh love it! I've seen someone successfully sim right, you've successfully simmed left, and someone successfully idled a real aircraft back to an airfield with room to spare. all from the same spot.
My original thought on Trevor Jacobs is that he never turned to see if there was any suitable landing spots. I thought I had seen a river bed just behind him. WhenI used to practice engine out, I was amazed how much time I had to find a reasonable landing area.
We all know why Trevor jumped. It was pretty obvious. On one video he says he never uses a parachute and in this one he says I always use a parachute. Then he has all kinds of cameras but no gps and also never shows his controls or gauges . Why did he go back to his plane and why was he taking selfie videos of himself? With all that looking up and had a camera in hand, he never took a pic of the actual plane that was supposedly above him. This video makes soo much sense. Thanks
Ahhh the constant sight-line angle! Music to my ears! Great breakdown, although -1 for not mentioning Initial Aiming Point! Enjoyed this a lot.
Lol, true! Did it properly on my hawk forced landing video 👍🏻
2:10 there is no starter on the plane he was flying (hand start) but he could have used air speed to attempt to bump start it
Well considering he didn't have the original engine in it. Nor did he have the engine that was register there's a good chance it did have a starter.
@@jasechurch5124 doesnt change the facts I stated... could have been restarted either way.
I loaded up MSFs and left lopoc airport, had to try this myself
I find it hard to believe that an "adventurer" like himself didn't bring along some kind of radio/beacon. He must have left it at home on purpose
He probably didnt have time as he was busy figuring out how to strap fire extinguishers to his legs under his pants.
I'd choose a stretch of land with similar features (not the same) and factor in at least sixty to ninety seconds of dead time because most people in such a situation will initially panic (especially given the terrain which at first glance is sub-optimal) and it will take a short period for them to calm their nerves and begin thinking straight. Also - river beds might look inviting from the air in a flight sim. But they are very often filled with boulders, rocks, driftwood etc. washed down the mountains during floods. Pretty dicey. Looking at the terrain where Jacobs went down there are at least two areas at higher elevation which seem good candidates. But again - MSFS isn't real world. Those maps and reality are two different things.
Completely agree and perhaps I should have made that clear in the video. I worked with what was presented in the sim but the techniques remain valid. Good point about the river bed 👍🏻. As for the 60-90 seconds of dead time, valid for a complex emergency for sure. Hudson River for example. But a simple aircraft and an engine fail those 60-90 seconds are vital for positioning especially at low altitudes. I had a bird destroy my engine at 1300ft on final. 60s later I was on the runway! 😅
@@cgaviator I think there are some similarities between the two (if we don't accept the premise that it was a genuine crash - which we do not). Don't forget - Sully was a highly experienced pilot with comprehensive knowledge of the plane and he had a co-pilot alongside him. Admittedly, Trevor Jacobs' plane isn't anywhere near as complex - but I don't think anyone would consider Jacobs an expert pilot and hadn't he only recently acquired the plane? I have to admit when I first saw that terrain I thought it was sketchy. Pilots who have never been in such a situation - especially those who don't have experience beyond personal flying as well as hours (or plane knowledge) - yeah, I'm expecting them to lock up at least for a short period or waste time attempting to contact ATC (did he have a radio?).
I mean, if he knows that plane inside and out he intuitively has a very good idea about how long he can realistically glide and expect not to run out of altitude. If he doesn't - I'm expecting him to err way on the side of conservative. Which may or may not be problematic. But well done with the bird strike. I expect you are a better pilot than Trevor.
@@deaddropholiday I have to admit, I'm not knowledgeable in the licencing requirements for sports light aircraft but I understand it's pretty darn low. Maybe it's the old skool in me but any pilot should be proficient in the airmanship considerations and aircraft drills before and during an emergency. I've seen videos suggesting it wasn't his (usual) aircraft, and that he doesn't fly with a chute normally. So if this is how he normally reacts to an emergency then he should always have a chute and shouldn't fly over any populated areas, lol. And not seeing the cockpit I would almost expect to see it stripped of anything expensive if you know what I mean! But I also agree that personal safety is more important than the aircraft. If he wasn't certain he could land safely then bailing is sensible. Notwithstanding he had time to think about things before grabbing his go pro and jumping. Good discussion, thanks!
@@cgaviator Nobody believes this is anything other than a pathetic attempt to draw social media traffic. So all that can be taken off the table. I'm just looking at it more as a thought experiment. What if your engine cut out over such and such ....? What would you do? Quite a few people have attempted to replicate the conditions and offered alternative solutions. But all of that is premised on it being legit. Which it clearly isn't. TBH, I'm amazed so many people considered it even as a possibility. It was obvious from the outset. Right now the FAA boys are putting a blowtorch to his ass and they will unquestionably push for the maximum possible penalty and rightfully so because it just makes everyone else's flying experience that much worse (more FAA red tape, bureaucracy, increased insurance costs etc.)
Still (as you say) - it is a good entry point for some valuable education for FS enthusiasts and young pilots. Like I said - I wouldn't bother trying to land in the same place (you want somewhere totally unfamiliar). Pick similar terrain (or harder) and then test to see whether your understanding of the plane's capabilities in glide match your perceptions, whether you can make good decisions on potential landing spots given decreasing thinking time or altitude etc. etc. It's all good fun. And valuable learning.
Smarter to take a route that keeps you near roads and landable areas. But if you need an excuse to bail out and selfie stick your free fall you might want to do it where the aircraft is not easy to inspect after the crash.
I can forgive the decision to jump out given the location even though he would have had other options. For an experienced skydiver who happened to be wearing his gear, it might have been safer than trying to land on potentially rough ground. What strikes me as strange about the whole thing was how quickly he jumped out, no looking around him, no restart attempt, not even a stunned pause. It's such an unusual and irreversible decision and absolutely against normal instinct since it's almost never done. I would have been much more convinced that he didn't fake it if he had at least spent a few thousand feet considering his options. He had the door open before the engine even failed.
Very good! So much information packed into this.
Thanks 👍🏻
It's the Trevor jacobs simulator challenge 10,000 feet above his "engine out" location and land the plane
The person who lands the biggest heaviest plane wins
#NoDakExpress
i thought it was a real plane, i did have second thoughts and it finally proved to me with that *cursor*
Lol, I do use the cursor a lot! Maybe in VR with a simulated hand it will be harder to tell!
Thank you for making this video. I am not a pilot, not really even an aviation enthusiast but I have become interested in justice being done after having seen the Trevor Jacobs video as an algorithm suggestion here on RUclips. As a non-pilot, non-aviation enthusiast it was obvious to even me Trevor Jacobs staged what he did. I remember as I was watching his video for the first time I spotted several places that looked promising to land, especially 1 mesa that looked quite flat and smooth though it was on a slight incline. I was thinking that's what he would do and crumple things a bit on landing, hence the video title. I was in disbelief when he bailed out of a perfectly good flying aircraft, it was gliding beautifully and had several 1000 feet of elevation to work with. I actually became agitated with Trevor Jacobs, someone I had never heard of, because I knew he had staged what he did for views to boost his popularity and maybe even an insurance scam. That's when the RUclips algorithm began suggesting rebuttal videos to me, like yours, and I realized I wasn't the only one that had become agitated with what Trevor Jacobs did. As an outsider I am grateful to see the aviation community calling out the Trevor Jacobs BS for what it is... BS. Trevor Jacobs actions are a potential black mark on the face of the aviation community that SHOULD NOT be tolerated by ANYONE within the aviation community. Trevor Jacobs is a fraud and it's apparent to people like me that are not part of the world of aviation. I encourage not only yourself but the entire AVIATION COMMUNITY to not rest until Trevor Jacobs isn't even allowed to fly a rubber band powered airplane in his yard. May God Bless the Aviation Community in taking out the trash.
Thank you! Agree with all of that ☝🏻
Really liked that video and despite you clearly not being a glider pilot your years and years of experience shone brightly. A glider pilot's perspective: the high key/low key landing pattern is the standard pattern for gliders (and as you didn't have a functioning engine you were flying a glider). Rather than flying downwind, base and then finals the BGA is now mandating downwind, diagonal, base and then finals (google BGA instructor manual ... the PDF is freely available on the BGA website). The idea is that your chosen landing spot will never get out of view. When looking out the window the angle towards your chosen landing spot should always stay the same (you get lower and you come closer --> angle stays constant). If the angle becomes steeper you are too high and you need to increase your downwind leg to lose height. If the angle becomes shallower you need to turn in sooner. This needs to be closely monitored throughout the whole circuit as it can quickly change due to pockets of lift or sink (in particular in the mountains).
W/r to the optimal glide speed there are two speeds (google glider polar curve). There is the speed of maximum lift which will keep you in the air longest but will not result in the longest range (on the polar curve that is the maximum ... dangerously close to stall speed). The other one is the speed which gives you the optimum lift/drag (L/D) and with that the furthest distance (which is what you selected/estimated and also described with correct terminology ... I thought I'd just add it for completeness reasons). On the polar curve this is the point where a tangent line from the origin touches the polar curve. For a plane like the Cub Crafter (which is I believe what you were flying) I would hazard a guess that the L/D will be something between 9-12 ... that means with 1mi in the air you have 9-12mi range ... modern gliders can give you all the way up to 70mi range for every mile of altitude ... but that's a different story.
W/r to the landing I would probably try to do a fully held off landing in particular in unknown terrain like this. What that means is that after the round-out/flare you try to fly parallel to the surface, bleeding out speed until you effectively stall. The idea is to slowly pull back the stick/yoke until it's fully back with you stalling when you are an inch away from the ground. This way due to the much reduced speed you have less ground to cover before the plane comes to a halt and also less speed in case the ground does have non-visible hazards ... now this is obviously purely theoretical. If you only have a very short landing area you got to do what you got to do and that's probably not a butter landing.
Tangential line from the origin, that takes me back some! Thanks for the info, I’m pleased to say I’ve learnt a lot from this video lol! I was attempting a constant sight line approach and talked to the sim point drifting up and down. Up and down drafts in the mountains are interesting to consider. I wonder if you could find sufficient updrafts to fly clear of the mountains! 😄 Anyway, thank you for taking the time to download the info. I’ll check out the BGA stuff 👍🏻👍🏻
Tangential line from the origin, that takes me back some! Thanks for the info, I’m pleased to say I’ve learnt a lot from this video lol! I was attempting a constant sight line approach and talked to the sim point drifting up and down. Up and down drafts in the mountains are interesting to consider. I wonder if you could find sufficient updrafts to fly clear of the mountains! 😄 Anyway, thank you for taking the time to download the info. I’ll check out the BGA stuff 👍🏻👍🏻
@@cgaviator With the glide ratio of a brick (which every GA aircraft effectively has) I doubt that you could actually rise in the lift. You would sink slightly slower but I doubt you'd go up. You would definitely feel the sink though ... very scary to go from vs -300ft/min to -1000ft/min with limited altitude remaining just because you are on the lee side of a ridge.
@@cgaviator Other than in flight school I don't think I don't think anyone would have any need to look at polar curves so I'm not surprised that this comes as a blast from the past to you. I just thought it might be interesting to give some background of where these numbers come from :)
i really like this. what a good instructor presence he has. i'd learn airmanship from this fellow any day of the week.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Very nicely done. Best practices seems not to have been in trevor's script.
Trevor would disagree
Best glide is usually somewhere between Vx (best climb angle) and Vy (best climb rate). It provides the longest distance traveled, not the longest time in the air. If you want the longest time in the air, you can go closer to stall speed (Vs/Vso), but you don't want to stall with no way to recover, so be very careful with turns to prevent an accelerated stall. An AoA indicator would help with this. I'm very sad about Trevor's plane, it's a great aircraft and there aren't too many of those left. There is a huge silver lining, though. He's causing a lot of people to study the incident and be better prepared if it were to happen for real.
Man forced landings are a skill i needa work on irl, was practicing one the other day and on final i realised i was too low lmao.
Took me a looong time to master. So many variables on a real day!
@@cgaviator yeah, i'll get there eventually.
After having watched some of Trevor Jacobs other videos his so called friends all seem to want to compete with each other to pull off dangerous stunts. Including Trevor Jacob wanting to skateboard off the steep sloping roof of someones 3 story house into a swimming pool to the applause of onlookers. psychological profile is building into what is going to result in this plane crash almost certainly being another of his long line of dangerous stunts.
I'm not even that great at flight Sim and I can do a forced landing that's survivable and perhaps not even an insurance claim depending on the vegetation. Trevor was in a plane with an amazing glide profile and that had been stripped of pretty much everything... it was airworthy when it was sold, and it is like buying a Bible copied by hand by 15th century monks just to take a big steaming dump on it and light it on fire. There's a difference between inexpensive and cheap. That old Taylorcraft was perhaps the former, but it was hardly the latter. Those are great Bush planes for the same reason he could have totally landed it engine out. It stalls at moped speeds.
Yea but unfortunately, people often conflate inexpensive with bad and see fit to destroy perfectly good but inexpensive thing for whatever reason. These people are jackasses.
For example, I daily a Honda rebel 250 motorcycle. I paid $1500 for it in basically new condition. However it’s been rock solid for the years and 15k+ miles I’ve ridden it. Always fires right up, doesn’t care if it’s 20 deg.. just a great little bike that does what it’s supposed to. If you know, you know. Unfortunately, I see them being trashed on all the time because they just aren’t cool or fast.. or people get one as a “learner” and treat it like shit.. half the time they’ll leave it to rot in a backyard as soon as they get something else. Tons of other examples out there.. shame.
It was kinda amazing to see the part when that Taylorcraft was actually flying itself. It would have needed so little to put down nicely on a river bank or whatever down there. All it would have needed where a little bit of brain. It surely broke my heart when it headed into the mountain side to crash. It didn't deserve that. 😢
@@birds_eye_view I just can't get over the fact that he decided to post the video without thinking about the fact that he's gonna get dragged by the aviation community and government. He's now cut down the video to take out some things including his commercial for the Ridge Wallet and the end. I imagine Ridge Wallet got some hate mail over this, although I don't think they realized what they were advertising up front.
I had low oil pressure over tiger country in a nearly new Cessna 172. Was advised by Air Traffic Control to return to base but on the way back the prop stopped at 3000’ and I spotted a little ag strip. High and hot but no damage, swapped out the donk a few days later and flew home.
Observations. An obvious stunt. You can see him walking over a nice little paddock. GA pilots never wear chutes.
Absolutely. And kudos for your forced landing! Bet it got the pulse up somewhat!
Make sure to avoid obstacles and power lines on forced landings
Here's a funny thing. I've been watching the 1970's detective series Columbo.
This is weird. I've been watching the 1970s detective show, Columbo. Great show. The funny thing is, there's an episode called, "Swan Song" where's there's some eerie coincidences. The episode's guest star is Johnny Cash and he plays a singer who murders his wife in a plane crash. Here's the weird part, in the episode, Johnny gives his wife and another passenger, coffee which was drugged. After the passengers are unconscious, Johnny puts on a parachute and jumps out of the plane, and let's the plane crash. He then parachutes down to the wreckage and pretends he was thrown clear and survived. I'm really wondering if Trevor Jacob's grandmother was a fan of Columbo or he saw the episode somehow. Because there's some weird parallels.
😅 maybe! Glad the other passengers were only cameras!
Best glide speed will get you the farthest for a given altitude, however, there is a slower speed, known to glider pilots, called minimum sink, which keeps you aloft the longest: there is a difference.
As I now understand. Good to learn on new types 👍🏻
excellent demonstration. MSFS2020 could have such great possibilities with practicing scenarios for EPs. I am currently flying the T-38-C and we have sims that we can practice in but you have to schedule times to do them. I would be so so so happy with a T-38C model in MSFS2020 to practice and see scenarios like this one.
Thank you 👍🏻 MilViz have a T38A for Prepar3D. But you have access to VR trainers no? That’s also MilViz and it runs on Prepar3D v5.
Fly boy Trevor wanted to boost his channel, what he's done is boosting everyone else's channel!
😂
Bravo. Good on you mate. Well done.
Thanks 👍🏻
I'm not an aviator just an interested passer-by that has seen the Jacobs bail out so if you've isolated your electrics what powers your flaps down?
Depends on the aircraft. Alot of old/basic aircraft use mechanical linkage to lower the flaps. So no electrics or hydraulics required. I’m not sure if some aircraft can use battery to lower flaps, usually not.
Vinegar strokes of the landing 🤣 I'm sure that's not in the FI handbook! Years on, I can still remember (for a PA28): Carb heat on, fuel pump on, change tanks, holding attitude, approx. 7 turns back on the wheel to trim for 75 kts, assess the wind direction etc. etc. Despite never having flown military stuff, I still taught the constant aspect technique to judge the , um, vinegar strokes because, let's face it, it makes the most sense. Not heard of Mr Jacobs but something I'll look up.
Haha, I wondered if someone would notice the vinegar comment! 😂
@@cgaviator "Came" (ooo-er) here to say the same... 😁
@@craigpoxon8690 😂
@@cgaviator noticed but don’t understand. Is it a British saying? I’m a California boy.
@@PetesGuide lol, you could put it in google! 😂
Another thing to note is before flying in the mountains you should have some formal instruction in mountain flying. The wind does things in the mountains you might not expect. It’s nothing complicated, just not something you will get if you learn to fly in Kansas.
Very true!
Nice flying. So calmly done.
Easy when there’s nothing at stake! 😅
7:53 "Don't vary too many variables!" sage advise
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bro... good job on this! I found out today my coworker has been following the story also and I'm about to try what you just did and i'm not even a pilot, but I bet I can land it.
Bet you can! 😄👍🏻
I legit had no idea this was MSFS until he used the mouse
This was very educational. I've never heard the term 'vinegar strokes' before. Always nice to expand the ol' vocabulary a tad!
Haha… in this case perhaps not! Lol 😂
i have not heard it in a while, made me smile.
Trevor Jacob will be remembered as aviation's Charles Ponzi.
Superb commentary
Thank you 🙏🏻
I'm not a pilot or so, but as a firefighter and a train driver I can say:
People will panic.
The same argument Sully used. Afterwards, in simulations and whatever, people know what's coming, No one warns people for what's about to come. No one..
No one is sayin a train driver when there's a person on the tracks and about to commit suicide, and no one tells a firefighter when there's a Mom+their child in a burning house trapped. Afterwards you'll know everything better.
You can do what you want, but let me tell you something. No matter how good you've been trained, some kind of panic is always there.
Same with train drivers when there's a person killing themself. They don't know how to act. But if you'd ask them that a day before, or any other time, really, they'd say you "Pull the brake lever back as hard and fast as I can and pull the curtains down"
I'm not saying he did the right thing. I think it's sh*t and staged.
I'm just saying it's not as easy as you're picturing it
i agree. i totally think that dude fakes the whole engine failure thing, but as far as im concerned, having a real engine failure would be really freaky. and if i had a full parachute on my back and insurance, i might as well use it.
He had time to think things through. But I get your point completely.
Absolutely true, but I believe that that's why that scenario is constantly practiced. While everyone just need a knowledge test on what to do in general situation (car, trains, how to put out fire, ect.), pilots actually turn off their engines under controlled settings and go through the feel of it. Going with that, I don't think any pilot first gut instinct is to jump out of a plane. Especially if you're panicking, it's just unnatural to have a parachute on. Like a guy driving with motorcycle gear in a car. Have him drive at a tree at 60mph, and he'll brake, and he'll swerve, but he'll never think about jumping out of the car.
Edit: Absolute agree with you though. Real life is more unexpected. My take away from all these yt videos is not that it was possible, but that he would have so much more time to decide if he did what was natural in any emotional state - try to keep control of the vehicle, and in this case, an amazing glide that gave many minutes of time to make a decision (or freeze in fear, but minutes nonetheless).
That area of the "Sisquoc River" is very rough and rocky. Lots of small boulders! Not at all like the terrain shown on any flight simulator. I've been there. I have seen Helicopters land in the Sisquoc to bring in supplies at Schoolhouse camp which is pretty close to the crash site.
Gosh I just couldn’t believe it when I saw the guys original video come up on my feed. So I have very limited aviation experience I have 36hours in a light aircraft and achieved one solo flight. That however was five years ago so the skill fade I think it’s called would be tremendous!. Unfortunately I had a health scare that scuppered my ppl plans (well I still plan to continue just I’ve let time pass to quickly). Anyway that’s besides the point, the reason I give that background information is to display that I know the basics/ have very limited experience and knowledge etc. That being said I recently got MSFS I also found the location and used the same aircraft (keeping in mind this is a sim and there’s no turbulence to deal with, from my limited meteo knowledge the mountains would cause the plane to gain and loose altitude so yes me gliding it miles in a sim is totally different to real life kind of thing :) ). Cut the engine at around 10,000 feet and even with my rusty lapsed skills/knowledge I managed to glided the plane miles in the direction you also choose!. I managed to glide to a field with a farmhouse on it/in it. So I distinctly believe this was a stunt for attention rather than a genuine engine failure. Ideally if it’s proven to have been a stunt he’d go to prison, however I don’t know how realistic that is over in America or if it had happened here in the U.K.!.
In the UK he would have parked it in someone’s garden for sure! Good point about the turbulence! I would say that in some conditions you may even get enough lift from the ridges to stay airborne a lot longer! Would have to be a stiff breeze across the ridges, but not impossible.
Well done. Enjoyed this. I hope to see more flight evaluation videos from you.
Not a bad idea 👍🏻
This doesn't even need to be simulated or proven, we all know he could have landed the plane, it's obvious he staged the entire situation for views.
Very true, but if nothing else, it’s inspired people to try! 😅
This was awesome thank you. I wanna get that simulator
I learn a lot watching your videos as a student pilot! thanks a lot man
Goodness, make sure you don’t blame me for something you try in a real aircraft! 😂
Try heading to Santa Inez AIRPORT right behind you 3 nm...
Didn’t see it, that would have worked 😂
Did you have also the fire estinguisher attached to your leg?
Always keep one on my desk! 😂
Excellent work landing it, kept super calm which I liked. Also that last saying will stay with me, thanks for that!
😂 thanks 👍🏻
The irony is he was in one of the best planes to do slow landing in. Some of these plans have stall speeds around 35 MPH. I think fastest runner is around 30MPH? Be curious about what the specs were on his plane, it actually flew pretty well after his engine failure.
Usain Bolt 27.5mph
Great knowledge!
I believe 33kn (38mph) is the specific stall speed for his Taylorcraft. Almost any landing is one you can walk away from at that speed.
Yea but your airplane didn't have 30 gopros rigged causing a lot of drag! /sarcasm
Do you have any sort of mod that modifies the clouds in-game? They look... different for some reason
I may have tinkered with some high level cumulous but no, just standard settings. I do however use SoFly Weather presets. Some good stuff which I demo in my latest video.
This exact demonstration is what pisses me off so much about this situation. What brain dead certified pilot ditches a STOL aircraft in an area where there were plenty of safe spaces to land? In the first 10 hours of PPL training you get this stuff drilled through your head and then you're made to actually practice is and perform it on each stage check and finally your check ride. No serious pilot, commercial, sport, private or otherwise would ditch a perfectly good gliding aircraft like Jacob did and his stupid video is exactly what made me angry enough to post a response of my own. I hope this guy gets the book thrown at him so other RUclips e-celebs won't try to do the same thing.
Agreed! 100%
No kidding. There're bush pilots all over who take planes out and constantly land in creek washes identical to this just to go fly-fishing. When you're in a craft with a 33kn stall speed, you can put it down damn near anywhere.
one thing that the simulator misses is how rocky California riverbeds are and that they are dry 98% of the time. A plane landing there irl would prolly hit a rock/cause significant injury to the pilot.
Ts a valid point, but in both sides of the argument, given the slow landing speed of this aircraft, it would likely be a landing that could be walked away from. But that’s the thing about risk, you can always just be damn unlucky!
First thing not to do? Do not fake an engine failure by shutting the engine off. First time my flight instructor surprised me simulating an engine failure I friggin near crapped myself! What happened? Nothing worth leaving. She sat there calmly telling me to relax and not tear the yoke out, LMFAO!
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@@cgaviator 😁
Poor performance and ethics of Trevor Jacobs? Yes, that's what it sure looks like, based on his video "I Crashed My Plane." It is especially suspicious how Trevor has his comment section of that video turned off --- almost like he wants to evade questioning.
People are going to the next current video and continuing there. He ain't escapin' nuttin.
Haha, I’ll have to take a look. What a muppet!
@@cgaviator Well you just go ahead and take a look, cgnavigator, because I'm sure you will find it to be a real piece of shit. Once again, the title of the involved video is, "I crashed my plane."
@@MyNathanking sorry, should have been clearer, I meant I’ll take a look at his videos that are getting comments. I saw the crash video 👍🏻
Has anybody done a simulation where they jump out of the aircraft and the fire extinguisher attached to their leg gets caught on the seat belt and they end up dangling from their leg outside the plane as it spirals into the crash?
I think someone actually did! 😂
Could you try going back where you came from. Do you think is possible?
Without experience I could not say. I’m certainly no expert in this type of aircraft. But hopefully in the future!
"now in the vinegar strokes of the landing"😂
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Can someone share what location this is?
Edit: I think I found it (correct me if I'm wrong), this is about where the plane was when it stalled: 34.824946, -119.974417
I’m not sure, but thanks for posting 👍🏻
As someone with 5 water takeoffs and landings under my belt (at Kenmore Air in the Cub Crafters Super Cub) all I can say is; what a senseless loss of a beautiful, classic 1940 Taylorcraft....😔🛩💔
Real landings/Kenmore?
Yes. I took an introductory flight for my birthday and took off and landed 5 times under the supervision of the instructor. Nyle Campbell is a fantastic instructor.👍
@@robertsandberg2246 cool to have the Kenmore reference! Sweet work!
Kenmore Air is an exceptional company with an equally exceptional history! I'm glad and proud to have the privilege of flying with them.
OK, I've now watched the TJ video. The survival portion was interesting but jumping out so high up was extremely frustrating to watch. Just like your video, we can see the river bed as he glides round. He even walks down it later. As demonstrated, he had a long time to decide what to do but preferred to jump early. Makes for some 'cool' GoPro footage but I'd rather stick with my serviceable glider than hope my single parachute will open OK.
Edit: I've watched another video now where they look into the TJ flight in more detail. It all looks suspicious af ...
Since he was wearing a sport parachuting rig, he actually had two parachutes.
Because he was going skydiving without the hassle of finding a pilot to land the plane...
@@robadams1645 I missed that. Just adds to my feeling that this was a ridiculous and dangerous stunt, rather than just appalling airmanship. Poor classic plane.
Not for nothing, but I would not be surprised at all if the FAA/NTSB/et all sit ole Trevor down in a chair and start the interrogation with this video. And make him sit quietly and watch the entire thing... Show him how much time he already knew he had. Then let him talk/give him rope. Great work.
Damn! Genius of control.
Hi, another great video.. Hope you don't mind me asking but do you have another RUclips station which involves Professional Helicopter flying 🤔... voice is similar..
Nope, but happy to take credit for it! 😂
I think he has a "British Pilot Voice", I say this because any British pilot, no matter what their day to day accent is (be it proper '"eee by 'eck" Yorkshire, or "Orl right guvna" Cockney) upon entering a plane with the intent to fly it, the accent will suddenly become a CAP 413-worthy, clipped, precise, RP English 😀
@@therealchayd 🤓
Determine wInd direction to locate an open field. Analyse the situation.
I wonder if Trevor filed a flight plan? And I wonder if he even had a radio or even gps? I think given all I have seen on this subject, he meant to bail out.
Flight plan… 1 departure, no destination! 😅
That river bed is completely dry and the best landing spot its sandy
And now I'm a subscriber :) Great vid! 👍
Thank you, much appreciated 👍🏻
7:32 is that an aviation term???
He could have also, NOT tied fire extinguishers to his legs and give the entire game away 🤣
Well said and demonstrated.....
Thank you 🙏🏻
Don't forget to transfer your friend's ashes from the urn they are in, to a plastic ziplock bag which can conveniently fit in a pocket when skydiving, even though you are allegedly flying to a destination to scatter those ashes with no intention to skydive, which would mean there would be no reason to put the ashes in a crappy plastic bag if you could just put the urn on the seat next to you. Also, don't bother attempting to send a pan or mayday call, even if you are clearly wearing a headset and the aeroplane is fitted for a radio as evidenced by its antenna on its underside.
I knew Trevor was going of the rails when his gf left him. After that he started posting personal things that really didn't need to be said in a public forum and I commented as much on the videos. He stopped uploading for several months after that, and the next thing he uploads is the bogus plan crash. I worry about his mental health and risk of suicide. I hope he gets the help he needs.
Really enjoying your vids!
Which joystick or controllers are you using?
Thank you
Thrustmaster Warthog. I use a 10cm extension tube on the stick
@@cgaviator oh nice. And are you using TrackIR too?
@@SgtJok3r yup
what are your system specs if you dont mind me asking. cpu gpu etc and care to show your track ir setup? its the best i have seen on youtube
Thanks 👍🏻 Specs are in the description. Trackir profile I will get around to posting online eventually. I slow the motion around the dead ahead to make it a bit smoother.
@@cgaviator ah silly me the game tabs threw me off. track ir settings and what hardware you are using would be super. best iv seen on youtube
@@AndyRCchannel oh yeah, I keep forgetting to add that. Warthog HOTAS, 10cm extension to the stick. MFG Crosswind pedals and a stream deck.
@@cgaviator apologies I mean the trackir hardware. If you are using the hat clips or the headphone mount. Or even something like the DeLand clip and then track ir settings etc. Would make a great video and also help this noob out a lot. Can't seem to dial it in right
@@AndyRCchannel ah, I use the pro clip mounted to my headset. And my settings are similar to a DCS RUclipsr. Can’t remember which though, sorry. I’ll post them eventually 👍🏻
Maximum extension of the glide path you get with prop standing still. If high enough, I would first stop the windmill in front of me after restart failed.
Yup, though in this model I couldn’t get the prop to stop 👍🏻 The flight physics aren’t modelled correctly
@@cgaviator I was shure that you had this procedure in mind, 🙂
If you have ever been in one of those dry river beds they are not very smooth and can have some real big rocks and ditches.
True enough
Hi key low key are AGL altitudes. You called Hi key at 2500 MSL. Don’t think that mountain valley is at sea level.
You’re absolutely right, I though I’d mentioned that? Apologies if not. I’ll have a quiet word with myself 😅 However, my next video will make this clearer. Don’t worry, it’s not in a bush plane!
EXCELLENT.
If he'd just deadsticked his plane down, he would have had less injuries than he received parachuting into that brush!
Well, there's an airport due west about 12 miles - would that help
Yup, though I didn’t see it and I didn’t have a map! 😅
Enjoyed this a lot
Pleased to hear it 👍🏻
Can I ask a question. Around the 3 minute mark when you were talking about preparing and how you should take a survival kit, I assume that should include a parachute yeah?
Lol, no. I’d not be wearing a parachute in an aircraft like this. Unless I knew it was going to fail!
@@cgaviator When he said "always fly with a parachute", I thought it was all staged. I think you've proven beyond all doubt that even if this aircraft did fail, you can quite safely land (or at least attempt a landing) :)
Scooby flew back to Sa Ana airport no problem lol
I plan to try this on MSFS 2020 when I get home. Where is this exactly in relation to The nearest airport?
I can’t remember now. I know a few other review videos have the start location.