This is nothing compared to her rematch. EDITED: For people thinking that I grind, I will make a clear answer for you all : No. This level is the final result of playing the game at 100%.
normally Cynthia's moveset is Dragon rush, Earthquake, GImpact and 1 type coverage move (Brick Break, Fire Blast or Stone Edge in other games) so she swapped out GImpact for swords dance, holy quag... all of her pokemon have held items, HOLY Hidden abilty? crap she's on no inch competitive mode but then she's using poison jab as her coverage move *facepalm WHY NOT IRON HEAD?
I was expecting her remade team to be a completely neutered version of her platinum team, Instead we get a far more powerful team with improved movesets, Improved items, and improved abilities with only one move downgrade while keeping her team and levels completely the same and adding further difficulty in the later rematch fights. If nothing else they aboslutely nailed the cynthia fights in these games
Original: Have you been keeping well? Thank you for Mt. Coronet. I'm truly grateful. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. But that's enough talk. Let's get on with why you're here. As the Pokemon League Champion, I accept your challenge! Translation: *Are you ready to die?*
@@MisterSleep1123 Everyone associates Gura with a, but what about Surskit’s a? The XY anime came out YEARS before Hololive. Not trying to be rude, just saying.
I felt all the battles pretty easy so I had decided to breeze through the game to give myself a challenge, bad decision, started struggling in the elite four when I got to cynthia I swear... I only won because literally the power of friendship
The power of friendship truly saved me in this battle too. My Altaria kept dodging the Rock Smash from her Gastrodon and that literally helped so much because she’s a tank and it didn’t help that it also had leftovers. I already gave my Altaria roost and leftovers so he really held his own lol
When her garchomp was using swords dance I knew I was screwed. This version of cynthia has no mercy. Not only her garchomp, but that milotic is one huge ass wall that takes 2 million years to break
Milotic was the one I struggled with because my male luxray has rivalry ability and didn't fit well with her female milotic. I had to spam flash using jirachi to make sure I don't get mirror coated to death or getting scalded as I used spark. I took down Garchomp between Staraptor, snover ability and graveler finishing it with explosion.
For some reason, I was able to two-shot it with my Electabuzz’s Thunderbolt without it trying to use Mirror Coat. Maybe it thought I would go for the Thunder Punch I also had on it instead.
I lost to Cynthia’s Garchomp the first time because it was too damn fast. Then, I taught my Gardevoir the move Trick Room to change the speed. It used swords dance which gave me the opportunity to use Trick Room, then used Moonblast to one shot her Garchomp. It was the first time I actually enjoyed battling a champion in a Pokémon series.
@@omarmendez0402 be careful. Pack ice shard users like weaville or Mamoswine because it has yache berry. If you are using fairy types make sure it's faster. Or pray to rngesus and hope that it doesn't use poison jab.
I still like her original better if I’m being honest. The way her hair flies furiously as she closes her eyes and turns away from you really gave her that boss battle vibe.
@@idrissb9742 I always find it a bit ironic that some complain playing through a Pokémon game’s story is too easy but keep the settings to “Switch.” It won’t completely change the game but does make it a bit more challenging.
@@sergel02 haha true some people man… still, pokemon games will all be easy once you know the mechanics. But set just makes it more fun too. Actually using your brain a little bit to switch into resisted moves. Especially when nuzlocking. Playing on switch is braindead in my opinion haha
When I did this fight, I didn’t have a huge amount of trouble with her other mons but as soon as her Garchomp came out HOLY SHIT. When I saw Swords Dance I nearly had a heart attack. Her Garchomp wiped out everyone on my team so I was forced to rely on my Gastrodon who had Ice Beam and my own Garchomp that I had grinded out to the same level as hers. My Gastrodon SOMEHOW managed to survive a hit and BY THE GRACE OF GOD got the freeze with Ice Beam. So I swapped to my Garchomp and landed a Dragon Claw for the win. Great fucking battle man, had me in the edge of my seat.
Dude same. That Swords Dance almost wiped my team. If not not for my Togekiss barely surviving the Poison Jab and getting the crit on Dazzling Gleam, I would've lost.
@@MrSharpShooterMan77 so you’ve beaten the game already? Any chance you could help me evolve my dusclops by getting me a reaper cloth lol. It’s only available postgame. I could trade you a manaphy
I was very astonished at how difficult this was considering the fact that Pokémon games arnt that difficult now a days. I hated the exp share mechanic cause I felt like the game was too easy. Sword and shield suffered from this. My Pokémon were at least lvl55 in the original games but THAT doesn’t compare to this.. My team was above lvl 60 + and it was STILL difficult. It took me 3 tries to even beat Cynthia.. the only way I even won was by spamming revives on my toxicroak. That way, garchomp was hurt by leach seed and and whirlpool. If it weren’t for sucker punch , I would’ve lost. Kudos to the new developer for giving me a challenge!
@@nothingmuch02784 Yes I hope so too. I showed him a grand underground mining video to entice him (he also loves minecraft) since when I told him about it he said it was boring at first
Masterpiece? You’re watching at fights, which are the only thing savable in this game. The way the overworld looks like is unwatchable, as if that’s been a technological step back of two decades
Cynthia holds a special place in my heart when it comes to final battles. I think her along with Lance in HG/SS. They really made me strategize like a mad man lol
@@cusg30 Bro I swear that man made me restart the game multiple times lol Cynthia is challenging but Lance is hard. At least for me. I’ve always beat Cynthia, but Lance got me fucked up for real. Even Red was a piece of cake compared to him.
@@birdsfly7199 im sorry bro but your ass if you think lance was hard he is one of the easiest champion battles in all of pokemon games gary in fire red was harder than him the type advantage for lance is ridiculous even dragon types are super effective against him and ice type is 4X effective on them idk how you had trouble with him the other elite four members to me were harder and more annoying and no red was wayyy too difficult by the time you get to red your nowhere near his pokemon level
@@birdsfly7199 im sorry bro but your ass if you think lance was hard he is one of the easiest champion battles in all of pokemon games gary in fire red was harder than him the type advantage for lance is ridiculous even dragon types are super effective against him and ice type is 4X effective on them idk how you had trouble with him the other elite four members to me were harder and more annoying and no red was wayyy too difficult by the time you get to red your nowhere near his pokemon level
@@cusg30 Okay… It still stands personally. Lance is the hardest battle ever even to this day. I still beat him every time, but the anxiety is presenting like if it were the first time. And I don’t know how beating Red with level 50s/60s makes me ass. Getting to him is even more difficult than his battle lol
12:24 That is so in-character, and the reason why she's the best champion. She is elegant, honorable and took her defeat in grace and she's a bit of a clutz too which is very lovable.
PSA: You can't arrive at this levels without grinding, if you play the game just by challenging trainers you will be wrecked by Cynthia like the first time
The moment the music to the battle started my heart started pounding. The new generations of trainers will not know the original fear that came with fighting this champion...nor her dreaded rematch. The constant inventory control and berry holds. The screaming at the DS. Lets not forget spending half the time hearing the "you're gona die" sound.
And thus she keeps the title of best Champion ever. Cynthia always was something else in the Pokémon World. It's not just about her team, she's beautiful, smart, friendly, and holds the first female Champion in the Pokémon history. I think her S Tier Champion ranking will never be challenged. The remakes have proven us we weren't wrong about her superior Champion material.
Personally,I think cynthia is becoming one of the fan favorite champion, by design wise,theme song wise,and team comp wise. Most importantly,memorable, because most of young pokemon players back in the day faced her proper team. I really like that she becomes the first female champion introduced and with her garchomp as an ace,compared to overated pokemon,charizard whom used by many trainers already (also chomp is DPP native).
@@vegaaltair8478 I agree with all that. And also, her team is so well balanced. I played both Diamond and Platinum during the DS era. Back then, I was 17 and already a well seasoned Pokémon player (I've been around since Gen 1) and I must admit she always had been a serious challenge to me. She is not just some pretty girl with the Champion Title. She is a true Champion within. In my opinion, a Pokémon League Champion needs not only to be strong, but also smart, friendly, wise and knowledgeable. And Cynthia fills all of those qualities, even more so in Platinum. Add her beautiful appearance and her badass outfit, and you get the true essence of a Pokémon League Champion.
@@vegaaltair8478 I wish Diantha was given as much respect as Cynthia. In terms of her Pokemon alone, Diantha's team is pretty tough but their movesets leave much to be desired and her Pokemon don't hold items, apart from Gardevoir's Mega Stone. Seriously, why don't Aurorus and Gardevoir have Hyper Voice to activate Refrigerate and Pixilate respectively? Why doesn't Gourgeist use Leech Seed and Will-O-Wisp? And why does Tyrantrum have Head Smash without Rock Head? I also don't like that Diantha uses Goodra because that should belong to Drasna. I'd have Diantha use Blissey instead. Maybe she caught her whilst filming a movie in another region since she isn't available in Kalos. If Diantha uses Goodra at all, save it for rematches.
I'm not interested in BDSP overall but Cynthia's rematch with competitive build sounds so intriguing... If there's any reason I'll buy this game it's definitely for Cynthia's fight only
@@null9932 i found Leon overrated imo, like yeah he was a decent challenge but the fact that Cynthia still has a repuation for being a nightmare over a decade later? that is saying something
I wiped to a Champion for the first time in several gens. Fitting it'd be Cynthia. I only won my second attempt because I used toxic from my Crobat on her Garchomp. I stalled a turn using fly and then went into my avalanche ursaring and survived an EQ then crit through her anti-ice Berry. She still only went down to the toxic damage, if not I'd have been swept. They did Cynthia justice imo.
Floatzel gets a diving suit (same type as before) Luxray get huge claws and huge theeth (dark electric) Starapter becomes fighting type idk about his apearance tho too bad this wasnt present in it
Garchomp doesn't even need to use iron head to kill fairies/ice. Earthquake alone already has 150 base power (because stab) which is basically the same as the 160 (super effective iron head)
@@lorenzomabalos9851 Earthquake has like 10 to 16 pp, unless you spammed it all on some random tanks (Or even just when you're supposed to set up) that you are not supposed to be, it wouldn't be ending that fast lmao
@@lorenzomabalos9851 Getting Iron head for just fairy and ice types is just too big of a waste when there're walls more threatening to Garchomp's sweeping potential. Better get fire fang (or even Fire Blast since most are just physical ones) or Stone edge for more offensive coverage
@@juggerton8087 traditionally, her 4th move for garchomp is Brick break, Fire blast or stone edge for ice coverage. but since fairy types is a new threat, iron head would make best sense. backed up with swords dance, that makes a powerful combo giving it poison jab was a little bit of a downer
dude, wow, the music that plays before the actual battle is still amazing, it hyped me up in chibi-2D, but chibi-3D just doesn't makes it look serious, I would've done a cutscene or something to make it look even better
I just beat Cynthia yesterday and I felt so proud, she was truly so difficult to beat. This is only the second Pokémon game after Sword that I’ve beat so she was a way different experience from Leon who I beat first try. I was under level with my highest level being 61 and the rest 57, but I somehow managed to beat her with my Mamoswine taking out Garchomp with one Ice Beam after he tanked an Earthquake. This was my second attempt so I was shocked. The first time I got through okay but lost at Lucario because he was too quick for my already hurt Pokémon. The second time my shiny Luxray took Lucario out with one Thunderbolt from all of his Charge moves against Milotic before. It really helped to bring him out the second time instead of my Empoleon the first try since everyone on my team was weak to either fighting or steel except Luxray who had already fainted the first time. This battle really makes me want to play Pearl too just for Cynthia again. My full team for this battle was Luxray, Empoleon, Altaria, Gardevior, Mamoswine, and Houndoom.
@@lubbo5261 But 3 Champion fights who make all other Champs look like random Gym leaders certainly does, especially considering that even the E4 already dunk on most Champs in other games.
Pokemon would be so much more fun if you couldn't just cruise through the entire game until you get to Cynthia. This is one of the hardest battles in all of the series and it's so satisfying to win. More battles like this in one game would be so fun.
Dude, that freaking piano, then the Cynthia theme and spiritomb looking menacing while in sync with the beat. This fight intro cinematic always gets me HYPED
Gen 4 had FANTASTIC Pokemon, it's no wonder this is the hardest Elite Four and Cynthia the hardest champion! Great upload! I love this battle and I remember how much trouble I had with it as a kid. I actually loved the challenge though and it felt all the more rewarding when I finally defeated her!
I feel bad for Cynthia, I wanted a fair match, but the stupid friendly feature kept making my pokemon "tough it out" and survive with 1 hp so she was incredibly easy
@@darkfeeels it was avoidable in previous games but can’t be avoided in BDSP ): You’ll have to constantly (and I mean CONSTANTLY) lower your Pokémon’s affection with herbal medicine from the shop in Eterna city if you don’t want these bonuses
@@Kantalope_ that's really annoying. I wish they made Elite 4 in a way that we were forced to play in set mode without items. It'll be the most fun we'd ever have playing the Pokemon league.
I honestly think swords dance is better than Dragon dance on her chomp, It's ridiculously fast already, There isn't much out there that can outspeed it, After a dance, In the first battle, It has 522 ATTACK. THATS NUTTY.
I literally beat Cynthia my 3rd try! Using my Kadraba’s Trick Room to slow down Garchomp’s speed which helped me. I finished Garchomp with my Empoleon’s move Ice Beam 💯
This battle was very difficult. I had to use a X-Sp defense on my gardevoir for her to survive a shadow ball from spiritomb, then I just calm minded until I was on full sp attack and sp defense. It was pretty easy to sweep all of her team, until garchomp came out. It killed almost all of my pokemon, so I needed a new startegy. I started swapping between my staraptor and luxray to drop garchomp's attack until it was weak enough for me to survive a hit, but swords dance made this much more difficult. I was almost out of revives and cynthia used up all of her full restores, so I needed to act. My staraptor and torterra were left, and garchomp could outspeed and kill both of them. So I decided to brave bird it to see what would happen. Garchomp got on low yellow, and at that point I already accepted defeat, but for some miracle, Cynthia got cocky and used Swords Dance once more. I used this chance to attack once again with brave bird, and it managed to kill garchomp without dying from recoil or rough skin. It took me several attempts to finally beat her. Also, milotic could survive a six special attack psychic from my gardevoir and mirror coat her to obblivion, so I waited until the burn from the flame orb got her down to the hp I needed to finnish her of.
Those EVs, IVs, Items are scaring me. I have to plan alot. This is probably gonna be run killer for most nuzlockes. I'd probably would ban myself from using Gyarados and X items.
I recently beat the Elite Four and Cynthia a second time. My strategy was type effectiveness in terms of moves and use as much items as possible. I remember when I took down her dreaded Garchomp with my Floatzel by having my Floatzel use Ice Beam 🔥
This battle was crazy difficult for me but I won. Cynthia's Garchomp was powerful. It had Poison Jab, Dragon Claw, Earthquake and Swords Dance. Its ability was Rough Skin and it held a Yache Berry. I had to use so many Hyper Potions and Revives until its PP ran out. It was an amazing battle I had. She's way better (Princess Tutu for Super Smash Bros.!)
My first fight with Cynthia in this game was actually a really smooth experience. I had a gardevoir with dazzling gleam so i one shotted the spiritomb (i trained before the league since bertha killed me off the first time. So all my Pokémon are in the 60's). I expected her to be torturous but she was kind of underwhelming. I was well stocked up on heals, had good planning and had fun. Although her garchomp absolutely abused earthquake which my mew handled like a fuckin boss. Mew was the only one on my team who could tank it a few times without biting the dust. Good thing mew also knew avalanche. Garchomp was no match. All her other Pokémon either died in one hit or 2-3 after a full restore. Fun fight, cant wait for a more challenging rematch
When I first got this game, I was worried they were gonna nerfed her team. Boy I was glad that was not the case. It took me 4 attempts to beat her. I had alot of fun battling her than I did battling the other champions from the latest games.
I mean, he's fairly overlevelled, plus he's playing on set. Any hard-core nuzlocker is going to have a hard time. Not to mention the amount of friendship boosts that kicked in, like clutching from an aura sphere, healing from a burn, landing crits and so on. In a real, competitive, fair battle, Cynthia would have won
Just battled Cynthia in shining pearl last night. It was such a hard battle and I only came out on top thanks to my Torterra hanging on because of a friendship boost. When her garchomp came out last, mine had already fainted. I had Rapidash on red, Torterra on 1 hp, Luxray (with only crunch affecting ground types), and gastrodon. So I sacrificed my rapidash to heal my gastrodon and luckily my gastrodon was tanks enough to take a hit and destroyed it with two ice beams. I've never had to struggle this much for the main story so it was a welcome surprise, especially since the gyms were ABSURDLY easy with exp share. I didn't even need my eyes open for it just spammed the same moves.
Well, Cynthia now terrifies me even more. She has items on every Pokémon, she switches, she replaced her Togekiss with a tanky Gastrodon, and she can somewhat predict switches.
Been playing pokemon for over 15 years. After breezing through the gyms and being overleveled throughout most of the game, I was worried in this remake that the Cynthia battle would be a breeze, unlike the original. I must say, I genuinely struggled with this battle. This improved Cynthia is by far the strongest champion I've faced to date. The perfect stats, abilities, items, moves, all of it was so well done. Keep up the low health sounds Nintendo 😂
She would have even beaten me if I didn't use full restores and revives. I mostly was gonna lose because of the yache berry but I was able to clutch it with 2 more pokemon.
Cynthia's sprite, her battle animations, and the insane power she packed in her Garchomp, what more could I ask for? Probably the best version of Cynthia we'll probably ever receive...
"Just a few minutes ago, you were the most powerful challenger. And just now, you became the most powerful of all the trainers." Words that will go down in history for a 10 year old.
I came prepared with a Togekiss specifically for her Garchomp, but on my first attempt it OHKOed my Togekiss with Poison Jab... So on my next attempt I paralyzed her Milotic with my Luxray and then swapped into my own Garchomp and set up 3 swords dance and used an X Speed. I KOed her Milotic then OHKOed her Garchomp with Dragon Claw. This battle was such a slap in the face after breezing through the rest of the game.
Lol I used a Togekiss too,I knew Garchomp had poison jab so I swapped in my luxray to intimidate it a few times and then went into Togekiss to KO the Garchomp
Mixeli: _switches Luxray with Staraptor after Luxray hits Gastrodon with Fire Fang aftwr Cynthia withdrew her Milotic_ _The opposing Gastrodon used Rock Tomb!_ Darn she's 200 IQ Though now her AI is programmed to always send out Garchomp last unlike the original where she mercilessly sends out Garchomp as soon as you KO one of her pokemon with an Electric type Pokemon like Lixray
So, Mixeli, is it harder than the original? I know the original one was extremely difficult. EDIT: I won on my 1st try. And the piano theme hits different after playing Legends Arceus.
@@maganhassan2627 I have to agree with maybe it's easier, but maybe it's because with exp share makes things faster and so the amount of grinding is reduced as well
@@maganhassan2627 same, I don't mind it as my own current playthrough of the remake seems to be going well, not overleveled but not underleveled as well
I just got past Cynthia with only my manaphy. Used two tail glows to raise its special attack and it literally carried me the whole fight . Used one max potion .
I went in with my team at L65. Defeated her by keeping my Weavile alive vs Milotic until I maxed out Hone Claws. Finished the rest of her team in 1 hit. That was after 4-5 attempts.
4 of the 6 Pokémon i already knocked out. The battle against her Milotic was 20 minutes long because she kept spamming Recover or a Full Restore. After that I got crushed with her Garchomp with +4 attack swords dance + Earthquake. So I got a blackout again even after 15 years of training.
Playing this and going though this again.. the champion battle her rematch was way easier then I expected. Eh I guess people only liked her for kicking our butts back in the day
@@somekami3375 well, there is a massive difference in when one was a dumb kid 15 years ago compared to today, doesnt take away she has by far one of the most threatening teams in first and rematch fights and now with actualy competitve sets
By the time she sent out Garchomp, I was down to togekiss, and empoleon w/ ice beam. Sent out togekiss since I figured its immune to half Garchomp's moveset, and I could use yawn and just wail on it from there, although fully aware that it'd be another turn before it fell asleep. Garchomp used swords dance, outsped togekiss next turn with a swords dance assisted poison jab and one-shotted me, but fell asleep immediately after. Empoleon got off an ice beam, but Garchomp's yache berry weakened it just enough to avoid triggering a full restore. One more ice beam finished the fight off. And this was just the first battle, I haven't gotten to the rematch yet. Probably the most intense AI pokemon battle I've ever had
Guy: Welcome to the Salty Splatoon, how tough are ya? Me: How though am I? HOW THOUGH AM I? Just today, I beat Cynthia on Pokémon Brilliant Dimond! Guy: Yeah So??? Me: First try with only four Pokémon standing, one of them which only had ONE HP. Guy: Uh.......right this way sir. I did use a Full Revive on Infernape to beat her Lucario, but a challenge is still a challenge.
This battle was something else x3 then my Gardevoir decided to be a boss and tanked two Poison Jabs at 1HP (Affection mechanics but was awesome to see, as if Gardevoir obtained a new level of power in that moment.)
The angle for some of the bigger 'mons (Garchomp and Staraptor) is REALLY bad, IMO. Kind of hard to look at. On the plus side, I love some of the animations! The Spiritomb, especially. Will be buying. Thx for uploading.
![The Psychology of How Cynthia Traumatized a Generation [Game Designer Explains]](/img/1.gif)
This is nothing compared to her rematch.
EDITED: For people thinking that I grind, I will make a clear answer for you all : No.
This level is the final result of playing the game at 100%.
Just be grateful megas dont exist in this game...or....
Dear lord that is my nightmare
@@eLite-Tiss91 Mega chomp is shit
MAN!... You're really Quick with these 👏 0v0
@@Musasensei1674 not cynthia you know dam well the Devs would find a way to boost her chomp to make it extra difficult
When I once saw Cynthia's Garchomp using Sword Dance, Yache Berry, and saw her having it's Hidden ability, I literally fall off of my chair.
normally Cynthia's moveset is Dragon rush, Earthquake, GImpact and 1 type coverage move (Brick Break, Fire Blast or Stone Edge in other games)
so
she swapped out GImpact for swords dance, holy quag...
all of her pokemon have held items, HOLY
Hidden abilty? crap she's on no inch competitive mode
but then she's using poison jab as her coverage move *facepalm
WHY NOT IRON HEAD?
@@TheHammerGuy94 to make it a fair fight. But I think it is to avoid being walled by some other Pokemon Like Tangrowth.
@@TheHammerGuy94 so its fair lmao
@@coolyeh1017 not only tangrowth but also Azumarill.
@@TheHammerGuy94 also iron head is not a TM in this game so she can't have it even if she wants to
I was expecting her remade team to be a completely neutered version of her platinum team, Instead we get a far more powerful team with improved movesets, Improved items, and improved abilities with only one move downgrade while keeping her team and levels completely the same and adding further difficulty in the later rematch fights. If nothing else they aboslutely nailed the cynthia fights in these games
@Wiley Midura when did he say he expected the remakes to be garbage, weirdo?
@Wiley Midura still sad no mega evolution
@@samnicholson794 hey, 1 less gimmick to worry about, I'm okay with them not adding that and the other nuke abilities like z moves and dynamaxing.
Let’s be honest this has to be the hardest Pokémon game of the main series
@@toypikachutheoctoling6029 From what ive seen so far it may be and that alone makes it a game worth buying
*Cynthia’s overworld Chibi:* Aw, look how cute!
*Cynthia’s team:* World War I flashbacks
@@the-renegade Replying with that on everyone else’s comments on this video doesn’t make you any more of a special snowflake. 🥴
@@the-renegade cry
@@the-renegade you’re a really bad troll
@@the-renegade explain how Cynthia is weak go on.
@@the-renegade Fight her with no items or moves like those and see who's the weak one.
She's only weak to you because you used those cheap strategies.
Original: Have you been keeping well? Thank you for Mt. Coronet. I'm truly grateful. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. But that's enough talk. Let's get on with why you're here. As the Pokemon League Champion, I accept your challenge!
Translation: *Are you ready to die?*
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@@MasterKirby you were so speechless you summoned the gura within you
@@MisterSleep1123 Everyone associates Gura with a, but what about Surskit’s a? The XY anime came out YEARS before Hololive. Not trying to be rude, just saying.
@@ps4pro668 because nobody likes surskit
@@MasterKirby Gura in a nutshell
I felt all the battles pretty easy so I had decided to breeze through the game to give myself a challenge, bad decision, started struggling in the elite four when I got to cynthia I swear... I only won because literally the power of friendship
The power of friendship truly saved me in this battle too. My Altaria kept dodging the Rock Smash from her Gastrodon and that literally helped so much because she’s a tank and it didn’t help that it also had leftovers. I already gave my Altaria roost and leftovers so he really held his own lol
Yeah power of friendship saved my gastrodon from that thing. That and stalling until her earthquake pp ran out
in PkmnPT there was no power of friendship, I lost about 12 times
@SCP-706 and it saved my ass against Ultra Necrozma. That bitch went down in 2 Z-Moves and a Spirit Shackle.
@@sunnysteph_o my staraptor i used for desth fodder tanked three hits on 1 hp
When her garchomp was using swords dance I knew I was screwed.
This version of cynthia has no mercy.
Not only her garchomp, but that milotic is one huge ass wall that takes 2 million years to break
Super Fang is good at softening it up, and is a physical move, so you won't be mirror coated into death.
They should have given her garchomp iron head instead of poison jab
Milotic was the one I struggled with because my male luxray has rivalry ability and didn't fit well with her female milotic. I had to spam flash using jirachi to make sure I don't get mirror coated to death or getting scalded as I used spark. I took down Garchomp between Staraptor, snover ability and graveler finishing it with explosion.
For some reason, I was able to two-shot it with my Electabuzz’s Thunderbolt without it trying to use Mirror Coat. Maybe it thought I would go for the Thunder Punch I also had on it instead.
Nasty plot Raichu one shots with thunderbolt
I lost to Cynthia’s Garchomp the first time because it was too damn fast.
Then, I taught my Gardevoir the move Trick Room to change the speed. It used swords dance which gave me the opportunity to use Trick Room, then used Moonblast to one shot her Garchomp.
It was the first time I actually enjoyed battling a champion in a Pokémon series.
Woahhh,oneshot?! Super cool dude congrats!
The first time I've heard trick room used outside competitive
I did the same but Garchomp had Poison Jab, did anyone know?
I used dialga’s roar of time and KO it in oneshot too
But yeah she is one of the toughest champions in the pokemon series
The Milotic was the real nightmare for me
That freaking Garchomp is going to give a new generation of Trainers nightmares.
No if a Fairy/ice type move kill that Pokémon.
@@omarmendez0402 Not quite kill, rather take it out of the fight.
And it's not always easy to find Fairy or Ice-types.
@@Mac14329 TMs of those moves.
@@omarmendez0402 be careful. Pack ice shard users like weaville or Mamoswine because it has yache berry. If you are using fairy types make sure it's faster. Or pray to rngesus and hope that it doesn't use poison jab.
Nah
Considering how dangerous her Garchomp was in this version could you imagine if she had Togekiss back & it had Serene Grace?
Calm down, satan-
Actually, she does in the rematch.
@@katiebutler9927 she WHAT?
@@MisterSleep1123
And it has TWave + Air Slash. Because Cyrus did nothing wrong
@@spindash64 great. Now i have to use a FUCKING CROBAT FOR THAT
I love the pose she does when throwing the Pokeball. It's like she's got her competitive spirit back and excited to battle you.
She lost it? Man people need to learn their head canon isn't real lol
Lol you people come up with everything to make shit sh*t games look better
Like It’s so pretty based on her sprite but Yes
I still like her original better if I’m being honest. The way her hair flies furiously as she closes her eyes and turns away from you really gave her that boss battle vibe.
That Hair Flip Sent me.
Yeah this is the hardest champion battle by a mile, Especially remach 2. I'm fairly sure that someone at ICLA just wanted to flex their showdown sets
Agreed that it’s the hardest champion
It’s funny because the only way I won was destiny bond on my vesvaqueen
Imagine doing this battle with the “Set” setting so you don’t know what she’s bringing out next. Would make her even tougher.
Imagine playing pokemon in switch mode, yikes
I always play Pokemon in switch mode because I never knew you could change to set until years later. Nowadays I'm just used to it.
That’s what I did, plus being underleveled af. It took a couple tries
@@idrissb9742 I always find it a bit ironic that some complain playing through a Pokémon game’s story is too easy but keep the settings to “Switch.” It won’t completely change the game but does make it a bit more challenging.
@@sergel02 haha true some people man… still, pokemon games will all be easy once you know the mechanics. But set just makes it more fun too. Actually using your brain a little bit to switch into resisted moves. Especially when nuzlocking. Playing on switch is braindead in my opinion haha
When I did this fight, I didn’t have a huge amount of trouble with her other mons but as soon as her Garchomp came out HOLY SHIT. When I saw Swords Dance I nearly had a heart attack. Her Garchomp wiped out everyone on my team so I was forced to rely on my Gastrodon who had Ice Beam and my own Garchomp that I had grinded out to the same level as hers.
My Gastrodon SOMEHOW managed to survive a hit and BY THE GRACE OF GOD got the freeze with Ice Beam. So I swapped to my Garchomp and landed a Dragon Claw for the win.
Great fucking battle man, had me in the edge of my seat.
Dude same. That Swords Dance almost wiped my team. If not not for my Togekiss barely surviving the Poison Jab and getting the crit on Dazzling Gleam, I would've lost.
@@MrSharpShooterMan77 so you’ve beaten the game already? Any chance you could help me evolve my dusclops by getting me a reaper cloth lol. It’s only available postgame. I could trade you a manaphy
@@granthoying529 I've already got a Manaphy, but I don't mind giving you a hand. I've just got to work my way over to where the Reaper Cloth is.
@@MrSharpShooterMan77 you’re a king. Wanna give me your Snapchat/insta/number or something else so I can message you?
Wait, you won with a gastrodon freeze too?
I was very astonished at how difficult this was considering the fact that Pokémon games arnt that difficult now a days. I hated the exp share mechanic cause I felt like the game was too easy. Sword and shield suffered from this. My Pokémon were at least lvl55 in the original games but THAT doesn’t compare to this.. My team was above lvl 60 + and it was STILL difficult. It took me 3 tries to even beat Cynthia.. the only way I even won was by spamming revives on my toxicroak. That way, garchomp was hurt by leach seed and and whirlpool. If it weren’t for sucker punch , I would’ve lost. Kudos to the new developer for giving me a challenge!
The trauma is real again after 14 years still feels the same to me hahaha. Cant wait for my Nephew to play this masterpiece
I hope he enjoys it!!
@@nothingmuch02784 Yes I hope so too. I showed him a grand underground mining video to entice him (he also loves minecraft) since when I told him about it he said it was boring at first
@@nothingmuch02784 WUACK U CYRUS I HATE TESM GALACTIC
@@thelostnooby4121 Are N’s siblings O ,P , Q , R, T, U, and V
Masterpiece?
You’re watching at fights, which are the only thing savable in this game.
The way the overworld looks like is unwatchable, as if that’s been a technological step back of two decades
Cynthia holds a special place in my heart when it comes to final battles. I think her along with Lance in HG/SS. They really made me strategize like a mad man lol
no lance was easy asf all you needed was ice beam and a water pokemon and you won that easy
@@cusg30 Bro I swear that man made me restart the game multiple times lol Cynthia is challenging but Lance is hard. At least for me. I’ve always beat Cynthia, but Lance got me fucked up for real. Even Red was a piece of cake compared to him.
@@birdsfly7199 im sorry bro but your ass if you think lance was hard he is one of the easiest champion battles in all of pokemon games gary in fire red was harder than him the type advantage for lance is ridiculous even dragon types are super effective against him and ice type is 4X effective on them idk how you had trouble with him the other elite four members to me were harder and more annoying and no red was wayyy too difficult by the time you get to red your nowhere near his pokemon level
@@birdsfly7199 im sorry bro but your ass if you think lance was hard he is one of the easiest champion battles in all of pokemon games gary in fire red was harder than him the type advantage for lance is ridiculous even dragon types are super effective against him and ice type is 4X effective on them idk how you had trouble with him the other elite four members to me were harder and more annoying and no red was wayyy too difficult by the time you get to red your nowhere near his pokemon level
@@cusg30 Okay… It still stands personally. Lance is the hardest battle ever even to this day. I still beat him every time, but the anxiety is presenting like if it were the first time. And I don’t know how beating Red with level 50s/60s makes me ass. Getting to him is even more difficult than his battle lol
12:24 That is so in-character, and the reason why she's the best champion.
She is elegant, honorable and took her defeat in grace and she's a bit of a clutz too which is very lovable.
PSA: You can't arrive at this levels without grinding, if you play the game just by challenging trainers you will be wrecked by Cynthia like the first time
You mean by skipping trainers? And just wild battles?
@@lethal6973 Skipping trainers will just make your whole party faint within a minute
Nah, if you battle every trainer your team will surpass Cynthia super easily, I am surprised how they thought nerfing her would make the game better
Except if you’re me and manage to poison spike and then stall for long enought that they all just die
You can easily get by with just battling trainers, just need to make sure her milotic doesn't stall you out with flame orb and marvel scale
The moment the music to the battle started my heart started pounding. The new generations of trainers will not know the original fear that came with fighting this champion...nor her dreaded rematch. The constant inventory control and berry holds. The screaming at the DS. Lets not forget spending half the time hearing the "you're gona die" sound.
Right this theme gave us old heads chills
And thus she keeps the title of best Champion ever. Cynthia always was something else in the Pokémon World. It's not just about her team, she's beautiful, smart, friendly, and holds the first female Champion in the Pokémon history. I think her S Tier Champion ranking will never be challenged. The remakes have proven us we weren't wrong about her superior Champion material.
Personally,I think cynthia is becoming one of the fan favorite champion, by design wise,theme song wise,and team comp wise. Most importantly,memorable, because most of young pokemon players back in the day faced her proper team.
I really like that she becomes the first female champion introduced and with her garchomp as an ace,compared to overated pokemon,charizard whom used by many trainers already (also chomp is DPP native).
@@vegaaltair8478 I agree with all that. And also, her team is so well balanced. I played both Diamond and Platinum during the DS era. Back then, I was 17 and already a well seasoned Pokémon player (I've been around since Gen 1) and I must admit she always had been a serious challenge to me. She is not just some pretty girl with the Champion Title. She is a true Champion within. In my opinion, a Pokémon League Champion needs not only to be strong, but also smart, friendly, wise and knowledgeable. And Cynthia fills all of those qualities, even more so in Platinum. Add her beautiful appearance and her badass outfit, and you get the true essence of a Pokémon League Champion.
@@vegaaltair8478 I wish Diantha was given as much respect as Cynthia. In terms of her Pokemon alone, Diantha's team is pretty tough but their movesets leave much to be desired and her Pokemon don't hold items, apart from Gardevoir's Mega Stone. Seriously, why don't Aurorus and Gardevoir have Hyper Voice to activate Refrigerate and Pixilate respectively? Why doesn't Gourgeist use Leech Seed and Will-O-Wisp? And why does Tyrantrum have Head Smash without Rock Head?
I also don't like that Diantha uses Goodra because that should belong to Drasna. I'd have Diantha use Blissey instead. Maybe she caught her whilst filming a movie in another region since she isn't available in Kalos. If Diantha uses Goodra at all, save it for rematches.
I'm not interested in BDSP overall but Cynthia's rematch with competitive build sounds so intriguing... If there's any reason I'll buy this game it's definitely for Cynthia's fight only
And Gritina. You can battle a lv 100 legenday in this game.
@@mariowalker9048 man now I won’t have a proper reaction to seeing that in game. Oh well lol it’s my fault for going into the comments.
It's not just Cynthia, but the whole E4. The Gym Leaders also get new movesets and items, but they can still be easily defeated.
Still can't believe that her team now holds held items.
And also includes EVs, IV(she only has IVs in originals) and better movesets.
And EVS
And even hidden abilities. You should've seen BDSP!Flint.
Cynthia > other Champions;
She is the World's greatest trainer in my opinion.
Leon is better in my opinion
@@null9932 i found Leon overrated imo, like yeah he was a decent challenge but the fact that Cynthia still has a repuation for being a nightmare over a decade later? that is saying something
@@giloguy101 I think because most of them were kids when they played diamond or pearl
Leon might be the strongest canonically (at least according to the anime) but Cynthia is still the hardest imo.
@@heavydonkeykong5190 N with rain team is more terrifying
I wiped to a Champion for the first time in several gens. Fitting it'd be Cynthia.
I only won my second attempt because I used toxic from my Crobat on her Garchomp. I stalled a turn using fly and then went into my avalanche ursaring and survived an EQ then crit through her anti-ice Berry. She still only went down to the toxic damage, if not I'd have been swept.
They did Cynthia justice imo.
Good old Toxic (Seriously why is that thing so good)
I wonder what would happen If Megas existed in this game
Cynthia's Garchomp would be mega nerfed
@@cybersoul2809 It would likely be mega too
Death
Infernape holds a sword in its arm (fire steel)
Torterra gets rocks on its shell (grass rock)
Empoleon get ice instead of steel on it body (water ice)
Floatzel gets a diving suit (same type as before)
Luxray get huge claws and huge theeth (dark electric)
Starapter becomes fighting type idk about his apearance tho too bad this wasnt present in it
I love the spiritomb animation when it’s pulled into battle. Love this battle.
I was wondering why Milotic had a Flame Orb, then I realized... it has Competitive.
No just marvel scale I believe. Ups its def while with a status. Competitive raises your sp.atk by 2 when your stats are lowered
I think he meant a Competitive build
@@TunaBear64 Nah he capitalized the C in Competitive which means he was referring to the ability
It is actually marvel scale :v
Marvel scale
"With Fairy type, i think Cynthia's Garchomp will be easy."
Cynthia's Garchomp: "haha poison jab go brrr"
I'm gonna be honest with you, I mainly bought this game for the nostalgia of getting my ass kicked by Cynthia
If they really wanted this on hardmode, they would have given her Garchomp Iron Head to destroy all Ice and Fairies.
Garchomp doesn't even need to use iron head to kill fairies/ice. Earthquake alone already has 150 base power (because stab) which is basically the same as the 160 (super effective iron head)
And then? If you run out of Earthquake PP? Oh look I'll just spam Dragon Claw at the player's fairy-type.
@@lorenzomabalos9851 Earthquake has like 10 to 16 pp, unless you spammed it all on some random tanks (Or even just when you're supposed to set up) that you are not supposed to be, it wouldn't be ending that fast lmao
@@lorenzomabalos9851 Getting Iron head for just fairy and ice types is just too big of a waste when there're walls more threatening to Garchomp's sweeping potential. Better get fire fang (or even Fire Blast since most are just physical ones) or Stone edge for more offensive coverage
@@juggerton8087 traditionally, her 4th move for garchomp is Brick break, Fire blast or stone edge for ice coverage.
but since fairy types is a new threat, iron head would make best sense.
backed up with swords dance, that makes a powerful combo
giving it poison jab was a little bit of a downer
She is probably the most beloved champion of the series. What an honor that Ash battled and was able to defeat her in the anime.
dude, wow, the music that plays before the actual battle is still amazing, it hyped me up in chibi-2D, but chibi-3D just doesn't makes it look serious, I would've done a cutscene or something to make it look even better
Fifteen year wait is finally over. My brain is overflowing with nostalgia.
Too bad the game kinda sucks
I just beat Cynthia yesterday and I felt so proud, she was truly so difficult to beat. This is only the second Pokémon game after Sword that I’ve beat so she was a way different experience from Leon who I beat first try. I was under level with my highest level being 61 and the rest 57, but I somehow managed to beat her with my Mamoswine taking out Garchomp with one Ice Beam after he tanked an Earthquake. This was my second attempt so I was shocked. The first time I got through okay but lost at Lucario because he was too quick for my already hurt Pokémon. The second time my shiny Luxray took Lucario out with one Thunderbolt from all of his Charge moves against Milotic before. It really helped to bring him out the second time instead of my Empoleon the first try since everyone on my team was weak to either fighting or steel except Luxray who had already fainted the first time. This battle really makes me want to play Pearl too just for Cynthia again. My full team for this battle was Luxray, Empoleon, Altaria, Gardevior, Mamoswine, and Houndoom.
Everyone: BDSP will be the easiest game because the Exp Share is mandatory!
Cynthia: I'm gonna put some dirt on you eye.
One somewhat difficult fight dosn't make the game magically hard.
@@lubbo5261 But 3 Champion fights who make all other Champs look like random Gym leaders certainly does, especially considering that even the E4 already dunk on most Champs in other games.
i Love how they kept Cynthia’s orignal team, but made the fight 10 times harder.
It took me four tries to beat her. Cynthia is just as hard as I remember
Me too and it was LITERALLY my first time fighting her when I first played BDSP…
I LITERALLY ASCENDED LISTENING TO THE OST
How was the out-of-body experience?
Pokemon would be so much more fun if you couldn't just cruise through the entire game until you get to Cynthia. This is one of the hardest battles in all of the series and it's so satisfying to win. More battles like this in one game would be so fun.
Siempre se me eriza la piel con está Batalla épico
Alguien más que habla español, siii
el soundtrack es muy bueno
x2, es la mejor campeona y además su tema es de los mejores soundtrack, imposible no disfrutarlo.
Demasiado bueno!
Hicieron justicia con la dificultad de la mejor campeona ❤️
Man that piano intro and her battle theme! Just chills!
Infernape, Staraptor, Luxray, Chomp, I think everyone used these on a team before back in gen 4, the classics
I feel old when people call gen 4 a classic :'). Just felt like yesterday when DS games were considered new...
0:13 When you hear this piano you know it’s over
Lol😂
tbh while most main champion battles may not be too hard, you can't deny that the battle backgrounds are 10/10
Cynthia rematch is literally the call an ambulance but not for me meme
Dude, that freaking piano, then the Cynthia theme and spiritomb looking menacing while in sync with the beat. This fight intro cinematic always gets me HYPED
And of course Cynthia being one badass looking character tops it all off
Gen 4 had FANTASTIC Pokemon, it's no wonder this is the hardest Elite Four and Cynthia the hardest champion! Great upload! I love this battle and I remember how much trouble I had with it as a kid. I actually loved the challenge though and it felt all the more rewarding when I finally defeated her!
Still waiting for a Steven vs Cynthia battle
I feel bad for Cynthia, I wanted a fair match, but the stupid friendly feature kept making my pokemon "tough it out" and survive with 1 hp so she was incredibly easy
Is it always on or can we turn it off?
@@darkfeeels it was avoidable in previous games but can’t be avoided in BDSP ): You’ll have to constantly (and I mean CONSTANTLY) lower your Pokémon’s affection with herbal medicine from the shop in Eterna city if you don’t want these bonuses
@@Kantalope_ that's really annoying. I wish they made Elite 4 in a way that we were forced to play in set mode without items. It'll be the most fun we'd ever have playing the Pokemon league.
which means you just got lucky
Man, just think about how much more difficult BDSP _could be_ if they’re finally the games to give Garchomp Dragon Dance. 😬
Garchomp have sword dance instead of dragon dance
I honestly think swords dance is better than Dragon dance on her chomp, It's ridiculously fast already, There isn't much out there that can outspeed it, After a dance, In the first battle, It has 522 ATTACK. THATS NUTTY.
@@the-renegade genwunner I see. I don't wanna argue with you, I pity you for living a sad life. Grow up 30 year old man
@@the-renegade if she’s weak then every champion is weak. she and leon are the only champions that team can be used in competitive
@@the-renegade please explain more about how she's weak, I ain't hating, just genuinely curious
I literally beat Cynthia my 3rd try! Using my Kadraba’s Trick Room to slow down Garchomp’s speed which helped me. I finished Garchomp with my Empoleon’s move Ice Beam 💯
This battle was very difficult. I had to use a X-Sp defense on my gardevoir for her to survive a shadow ball from spiritomb, then I just calm minded until I was on full sp attack and sp defense. It was pretty easy to sweep all of her team, until garchomp came out. It killed almost all of my pokemon, so I needed a new startegy. I started swapping between my staraptor and luxray to drop garchomp's attack until it was weak enough for me to survive a hit, but swords dance made this much more difficult. I was almost out of revives and cynthia used up all of her full restores, so I needed to act. My staraptor and torterra were left, and garchomp could outspeed and kill both of them. So I decided to brave bird it to see what would happen. Garchomp got on low yellow, and at that point I already accepted defeat, but for some miracle, Cynthia got cocky and used Swords Dance once more. I used this chance to attack once again with brave bird, and it managed to kill garchomp without dying from recoil or rough skin. It took me several attempts to finally beat her. Also, milotic could survive a six special attack psychic from my gardevoir and mirror coat her to obblivion, so I waited until the burn from the flame orb got her down to the hp I needed to finnish her of.
Those EVs, IVs, Items are scaring me. I have to plan alot. This is probably gonna be run killer for most nuzlockes.
I'd probably would ban myself from using Gyarados and X items.
I recently beat the Elite Four and Cynthia a second time. My strategy was type effectiveness in terms of moves and use as much items as possible. I remember when I took down her dreaded Garchomp with my Floatzel by having my Floatzel use Ice Beam 🔥
This battle was crazy difficult for me but I won. Cynthia's Garchomp was powerful.
It had Poison Jab, Dragon Claw, Earthquake and Swords Dance. Its ability was Rough Skin and it held a Yache Berry. I had to use so many Hyper Potions and Revives until its PP ran out. It was an amazing battle I had. She's way better
(Princess Tutu for Super Smash Bros.!)
My first fight with Cynthia in this game was actually a really smooth experience. I had a gardevoir with dazzling gleam so i one shotted the spiritomb (i trained before the league since bertha killed me off the first time. So all my Pokémon are in the 60's). I expected her to be torturous but she was kind of underwhelming. I was well stocked up on heals, had good planning and had fun. Although her garchomp absolutely abused earthquake which my mew handled like a fuckin boss. Mew was the only one on my team who could tank it a few times without biting the dust. Good thing mew also knew avalanche. Garchomp was no match.
All her other Pokémon either died in one hit or 2-3 after a full restore. Fun fight, cant wait for a more challenging rematch
Wow, you made it look very easy! Amazing!
When I first got this game, I was worried they were gonna nerfed her team. Boy I was glad that was not the case. It took me 4 attempts to beat her. I had alot of fun battling her than I did battling the other champions from the latest games.
Maybe this is weird ,but I enjoyed seeing my Pokémon's getting destroyed by her's. It made me took the battle more seriously. I enjoyed it to the max.
I love this battle
Don't know if is your team or not, but you made the battle look fairly easy.
Though Cynthia looks cool and strong especially her Garchomp.
Garchomp v Garchomp was a massive flex.
shiny Quag too
I mean, he's fairly overlevelled, plus he's playing on set. Any hard-core nuzlocker is going to have a hard time.
Not to mention the amount of friendship boosts that kicked in, like clutching from an aura sphere, healing from a burn, landing crits and so on.
In a real, competitive, fair battle, Cynthia would have won
@@infinitethunder6184 the video is for the content brah... chill.. curb your masochism.
@@stormranger528 they aren't mad though lol
@@stormranger528 op is only speaking the truth
Just battled Cynthia in shining pearl last night. It was such a hard battle and I only came out on top thanks to my Torterra hanging on because of a friendship boost. When her garchomp came out last, mine had already fainted. I had Rapidash on red, Torterra on 1 hp, Luxray (with only crunch affecting ground types), and gastrodon. So I sacrificed my rapidash to heal my gastrodon and luckily my gastrodon was tanks enough to take a hit and destroyed it with two ice beams.
I've never had to struggle this much for the main story so it was a welcome surprise, especially since the gyms were ABSURDLY easy with exp share. I didn't even need my eyes open for it just spammed the same moves.
Well, Cynthia now terrifies me even more. She has items on every Pokémon, she switches, she replaced her Togekiss with a tanky Gastrodon, and she can somewhat predict switches.
This was the first time i was struggling with a champion fight, i only survived because of the power of friendship.
Been playing pokemon for over 15 years. After breezing through the gyms and being overleveled throughout most of the game, I was worried in this remake that the Cynthia battle would be a breeze, unlike the original. I must say, I genuinely struggled with this battle. This improved Cynthia is by far the strongest champion I've faced to date. The perfect stats, abilities, items, moves, all of it was so well done. Keep up the low health sounds Nintendo 😂
She would have even beaten me if I didn't use full restores and revives. I mostly was gonna lose because of the yache berry but I was able to clutch it with 2 more pokemon.
glad to know she still incites fear into people's hearts 👍
Cynthia's sprite, her battle animations, and the insane power she packed in her Garchomp, what more could I ask for? Probably the best version of Cynthia we'll probably ever receive...
Fun fact: Before Fairy type came out, Spiritomb had no weaknesses. Its only weakness now is Fairy types :)
"Just a few minutes ago, you were the most powerful challenger. And just now, you became the most powerful of all the trainers."
Words that will go down in history for a 10 year old.
I came prepared with a Togekiss specifically for her Garchomp, but on my first attempt it OHKOed my Togekiss with Poison Jab... So on my next attempt I paralyzed her Milotic with my Luxray and then swapped into my own Garchomp and set up 3 swords dance and used an X Speed. I KOed her Milotic then OHKOed her Garchomp with Dragon Claw. This battle was such a slap in the face after breezing through the rest of the game.
Lol I used a Togekiss too,I knew Garchomp had poison jab so I swapped in my luxray to intimidate it a few times and then went into Togekiss to KO the Garchomp
Good.
New Pokemon games: Welp, time to nerf everyone.
Cynthia: I'm sorry. Were you saying something?
Mixeli: _switches Luxray with Staraptor after Luxray hits Gastrodon with Fire Fang aftwr Cynthia withdrew her Milotic_
_The opposing Gastrodon used Rock Tomb!_
Darn she's 200 IQ
Though now her AI is programmed to always send out Garchomp last unlike the original where she mercilessly sends out Garchomp as soon as you KO one of her pokemon with an Electric type Pokemon like Lixray
So, Mixeli, is it harder than the original?
I know the original one was extremely difficult.
EDIT: I won on my 1st try. And the piano theme hits different after playing Legends Arceus.
Game is baby easy until post game, then it gets to what difficulty it should have been from the get go.
@@maganhassan2627 It's baby easy because it's easy even for pokémon standards
@@maganhassan2627 I agree, I played some older games recently and it felt weird, everything felt so much easier
@@maganhassan2627 I have to agree with maybe it's easier, but maybe it's because with exp share makes things faster and so the amount of grinding is reduced as well
@@maganhassan2627 same, I don't mind it as my own current playthrough of the remake seems to be going well, not overleveled but not underleveled as well
She isn’t the queen for nothing! Now she’s the strongest NPC in Pokémon.. even Ilca knows who the real champ is
“The Queen has entered a new phase”
Cynthia is still hands down the best champion in Pokemon
I like the little hair flip she does before throwing the pokeball.
I just got past Cynthia with only my manaphy. Used two tail glows to raise its special attack and it literally carried me the whole fight . Used one max potion .
thank you Nintendo for making the remakes relatively hard, now can you please make gen 9 difficult.
I went in with my team at L65. Defeated her by keeping my Weavile alive vs Milotic until I maxed out Hone Claws. Finished the rest of her team in 1 hit. That was after 4-5 attempts.
I was under-leveled when I fought her a while ago (53-56). My Mamoswine with Icicle Crash and Ice Shard saved me from her Garchomp 😂
My Mamoswine came through with ice fang
Did you beat Cynthia?
yes
At what cost ?
*EVERYTHING*
4 of the 6 Pokémon i already knocked out. The battle against her Milotic was 20 minutes long because she kept spamming Recover or a Full Restore. After that I got crushed with her Garchomp with +4 attack swords dance + Earthquake.
So I got a blackout again even after 15 years of training.
What your pokemon can heal it's burn by itself out of sheer affection for you in mid battle? Thats new.
With high friendship pokemon get mega buffed
Thats been a thing since affection was introduced in XY
Can’t believe they pulled Togekiss from her team. It would’ve been on par with her terrifying Garchomp
Time traveler here, she has a Togekiss in Rematch. I hope you like flinching most of the time.
Serene Grace with the following moves: Air Slash, Dazzling Gleam, Aura Sphere and Thunder Wave. Yeah. She's not kidding.
*Palkia used Ice beam*
Garchomp: call an ambulance!
*Garchomp used its yarch berry*
Garchomp: but not for me!
8:36
I'm in love with these new animations!
😍
Did
Did Cynthia's Garchomp just KO a pokemon while it was ASLEEP?
Playing this and going though this again.. the champion battle her rematch was way easier then I expected. Eh I guess people only liked her for kicking our butts back in the day
@@maganhassan2627 she’s still pretty easy to me. I’ll admit a bit tougher though.
@@somekami3375 well, there is a massive difference in when one was a dumb kid 15 years ago compared to today, doesnt take away she has by far one of the most threatening teams in first and rematch fights and now with actualy competitve sets
@@somekami3375 her third team is actually pretty rough if you go in blind... there’s a few surprises that’ll probably get you to lose something
By the time she sent out Garchomp, I was down to togekiss, and empoleon w/ ice beam.
Sent out togekiss since I figured its immune to half Garchomp's moveset, and I could use yawn and just wail on it from there, although fully aware that it'd be another turn before it fell asleep. Garchomp used swords dance, outsped togekiss next turn with a swords dance assisted poison jab and one-shotted me, but fell asleep immediately after. Empoleon got off an ice beam, but Garchomp's yache berry weakened it just enough to avoid triggering a full restore. One more ice beam finished the fight off.
And this was just the first battle, I haven't gotten to the rematch yet. Probably the most intense AI pokemon battle I've ever had
Anyone else having to rest for a day from the trauma we experienced from fighting her.
NAW FRRRR I TURNED OFF MY SWITCH BC OF MY ANXIETY
Guy: Welcome to the Salty Splatoon, how tough are ya?
Me: How though am I? HOW THOUGH AM I? Just today, I beat Cynthia on Pokémon Brilliant Dimond!
Guy: Yeah So???
Me: First try with only four Pokémon standing, one of them which only had ONE HP.
Guy: Uh.......right this way sir.
I did use a Full Revive on Infernape to beat her Lucario, but a challenge is still a challenge.
Now Cynthia can show a new generation a hard time.
While our generation experiences a MUCH HARDER time.
How to make this battle easier:
Step 1: Heal stall Spiritomb with Drapion
Step 2: While heal stalling, spam the shit out of acupressure
Step 3: Enjoy!
A QUAGSIRE? NOBODY USES THIS. this has made me happy although I don't plan on using it myself lol.
This battle was something else x3 then my Gardevoir decided to be a boss and tanked two Poison Jabs at 1HP (Affection mechanics but was awesome to see, as if Gardevoir obtained a new level of power in that moment.)
The angle for some of the bigger 'mons (Garchomp and Staraptor) is REALLY bad, IMO. Kind of hard to look at.
On the plus side, I love some of the animations! The Spiritomb, especially. Will be buying. Thx for uploading.
new OST is on fire, i'll add this to my playlist
I’m gonna need a KGE after hearing Cynthia’s battle opener. 🥰🔥
I came here just for the soundtrack. SO MUCH NOSTALGIA