Obessional Directive Empire: Dives into Dimensional Horror/Worm black hole Dimensional Horror/Worm: Ha! You've fallen right into my trap! Wait, what are you doing? Obessional Directive Empire: Paperclips the universe
9:53 Imagine being a multiverse travelling empire and coming across a universe literally filled with infinite amounts of strange and alien artifacts, your archeologists spend a century just examining one system and they come back to you with a report "Well my lord it seems... this planet is made, down to the subatomic level, out of some sort of... mass manufactured electronic music player..."
An universe of consumer goods, might as well be a giant silo. Make an universe for each resource and you could have an infinite ammount of them, with the Needles being the forklifts to travel in between.
Stealing the Infinity Machine’s Thunder also seems like a pretty ideal universe. Imagine calculating a method for billions of years only for some random alien to barge in in, and what to it would seem like a week later they solve all the issues and complete the task even better than they could have.
Actually I'd disagree, the infinity machine is trying to complete a specific task, not just create a universe but create a *specific* universe, where as cosmo genesis just wants to create a formless qorld that they can shape to their own will, which the infinity machine presumably could also do but wasn't trying to do. So its more like if I was trying to knit a really fancy sweater and some kid came along and grabbed my yarn, and just created a big ball of yarn to play with.
@@asmkalrizion7078 The fact there are two outcomes is very telling for lore purposes. What was Infinity trying to do? I propose, the reason for the universe being so old if you assist that purpose, is that Infinity was trying to create a 'short cut.' A universe in which a larger part of the calculations have already occurred, and within 'itself' would be further along in the math. I wonder if recursive dives into big G. would have done something. Alas, outside the game parameters.
In the shroud one, we can still fight or run, the dimensional horror one tho, we are in a cage full of darkness and eldritch horror. I really want a super crisis from that dimension
What if you side with the dimensional horror? And theN enter it? What about the black hole that forms if the horror you take back to your home planet turns into a black hole?
@@Rith9789 The horror you take back to your planet is the WORM. That particular ending is ending #11 in the video. (Spend ages helping it escape the null void it's trapped in and find another realm to take over together.) The other horror is unrelated. Just a random, malevolent entity within the seemingly infinite realms/astral planes of the Deep Shroud. (That's the name for the multiverse that can be accessed according to Gigastructural Engineering lore.)
I really appreciate the Dimensional Horror ending. It was always known that what breached our universe was just a piece of what lay beyond. Very tip of the iceberg. Most empires can defeat it by the mid game. But this highly advanced, end game empire breaches the door and suddenly realizes the full scale of the iceberg. And the iceberg is angry. I love the idea of an empire defeating a cosmic power only to then realize that what was a hard fought win was barely the appetizer.
do note however that many real-world mythologies start with the gods fashioning the universe from primordial chaos (a word which in olden days referred to the primordial nothingness) or the corpse of some great evil they slew.
Im gonna make my next game all about hoping the Dimensional Horror spawns and going to its dimension... To bring the fight to it. _THE HORROR IS ONLY A MINISCULE FRACTION; A FRACTAL OF IT IS LEFT. DEPLOY THE BREACHCRAFT, WE DESIRE ITS OBLIVION._
love the shroud ending, makes the gods of the shroud seem alot more morally neutral. (as in existing outside of our version of morality) like yeah they wanna corrupt your pops (mentally or physically) or just fucking eat you, but hey if you do something cool that amuses them atleast you get a great reward.
Morality is a human concept. The thing about Stellaris, it's too human. All the aliens, are really distinct from one another on basis of culture, not anything else. There really are no aliens in Stellaris, in a way.
@@theflame5919 Perhaps but consider that we mostly see the civilizations that surpasses a certain technological level in events and cultural interactions. Those with different moral systems mayhaps likely to not develop after a threshold or not at all.
The center of galaxies in the Stellaris-verse seem to all have some sort of strong connection with the Shroud. I wonder if the only constant is the Shroud, and it is a gateway to other galaxies?
It's explained by the Zroni precursor chain. The shroud, or at least the localized area, is powered by matter falling into the center of a black hole, and as more power is drawn from it, the black hole grows in size to take in more matter. Tho there might be more to it, I dunno.
Shroud is the essence of all being, a primordial will, an essence of sentience that is made to observe the universe(the vultaum knew it), but also an nexus for entire multiverse, so basically shroud is everywhere and everything has an echo in the shroud
Genuinely the best dlc we have had lore wise and choice wise they have out done themselves with this the extra lore about the toxic god and the shroud is super cool
@@TheRedKing Out of all the Paradox games, Stellaris seems to be the one nurtured the most; even the new DLC coming out looks insane with the amount of content they're advertising. "8 dynamic new storm types. New Origin: "Storm Chasers". 3 new Civics. Weather Forecast Map Mode. New Technologies, Resolutions, and Edicts designed to maximize strategic game play." Like holy moly for a "Small" DLC - They're really making it seem like some of the older "Big" DLC for the game.
I like the Horizon Signal one. The idea that a rather rational empire was touched by the sheer eldritch horror of the benign worm and then driven to a made crazy to meet their "savor" seems like a good storyline.
You also get that in Terminal Egress, PLUS a bunch of nanites that are capable of surviving a black hole/dimension-hopping that can be reprogrammed to your benefit. Plus, IIRC, Great Wound isn't a guaranteed spawn except on huge (lag) galaxies, while Terminal Egress will always exist as long as the L-Cluster is enabled.
Wait then isn't the infinity machine a more ethical and cautious version of Cosmogenesis? No synaptic laythe , no mass genocide, no rips in the fabric of our reality etc
Perhaps the Infinity Machine is all that is left of its original creators. For all we know, the entire civilization might exist inside of it, subservient to the cause. Perhaps unwillingly so. Don't be a fool -- there are no freebies!
@@SamuelGracefell I theorize that the infinity machine is all that remains of a lost empire which was attempting something adjacent to cosmogenesis, but with different goals. Rather than finding a universe pliable enough to be rewritten for permanent habitation like I believe cosmogenesis implies, I believe the infinity machine is/was the "horizon needle" of a civilization who transited universes when the universe began to die. Nomads who would travel to a new universe calculated to be hospitable and living there until it's natural heat death, but rather than editing reality to prevent it, they would just use the infinity machines again to find another new universe. They would have no need for sacrificing billions to calculate the near infinite data used to edit reality via the horizon needle, as their machine quite literally had all the time in the universe to calculate a new home. They would travel through, create a new infinity machine, and settle in; only for whatever reason, when they came to our universe, they didn't persist, leaving only the machine, following it's duty to find a new home for it's masters. Concerningly, if it does take "all the time in the universe" to calculate the next new home; that it completes its task in the lifetime of our empire implies that our universe is on its death bed. Perhaps explaining why the endgame crisies occur soon after?
Year: 3000 A new empire just arrived on a new galaxy with their needle, to a galaxy of paperclip. You escaped a galaxy that has a crazy paperclip bots, just to arrive to a galaxy CREATED by the very same paperclip bots
For me it's the second infinity machine/Gargantua ending that I plan to get. Mainly because the civilization I plan to go Cosmogenesis with is a voidforged driven assimilator (which will go virtual ascension) with the singular goal of becoming the ultimate digital consciousness, endless data being a part of it and near unstoppable processing power. True, the Horizon Needle might not be able to affect that replicated universe much however using it to restore the infinity machine, make it apart of itself and then use both to create new advanced habitats across this galaxy fits its goal to perfection
Have you listened to the video? Going through a normal black hole and going through the second Gargantua hole achieves the same thing - nothing. The whole purpose of the Horizon Needle and the ENTIRE Cosmogenesis path (COSMO, GENESIS) is to get into a cosmos where you can shape the rules yourself. Entering into a normal black hole and the second Gargantua hole you learn that your whole endeavors were for nothing, as the universe you arrived to is not malleable. If you just want to create advanced habitats, take the Contingency route.
@@deaansugee I did? MY machine intelligence isn't 'destroy all lifeforms', it's completely indifferent to them, and making the infinity machine a part of it sounds like the perfect thing they would want. I listed why my machine intelligence would go cosmogenesis, to become the ultimate digital consciousness so having such information cosmogenesis provides it would 100% want regardless of end goal, and it doesn't act as though you get nothing it tells you there are ideal places to recolonize and that you could use the horizon needle to repair and control the infinity machine. THE infinity machine, THE machine which calculated infinity itself and has the knowledge on how to turn an entire universe into a near perfect duplicate, is 100% something my machine intelligence would crave to have and certainly not what I'd describe as 'for nothing'.
Yes, none of them really filled me with the thought that going down the cosmogenesis path was a great idea for my people, perhaps with the exception of the Great Wound which appears to be the ideal outcome i.e. fresh universe to do whatever they want with
@@TheRedKing I like the Toxic God ending, because it feels like the only path where you are actually potentially saving the universe from doom. Typically you are either doom to die or repeat the infinite cycle. This one has hope, where it seems you are joining a benevolent deity that actually welcomes your aid
Potentially benevolent, didn't the toxic god ravage their planet once upon a time? i'm sure that's how the story starts... It's a fantastic addition nevertheless
Is the worst obvious, thoo? Dimensional horror is the most dangerous, but there is hope of escape. The worm one poses no immediate danger, but also no hope for... anything. Just an eternity of stagnation.
A neat thing I found during one of my playthroughs as cosmogenesis was that after I did the dimensional horror parade, then lost a planet in my capital system through it, it caused the final jump calculation project for the horizon needle to instead jump through the newly formed black hole in my capital and gave me the dimensional horror ending instead of the default one
I have seen some consider that maybe fallen empires all went through their own cosmogenesis. But I disagre...to an extent, I think simply all of them reached a pinnacle where they tried something of the cosmogenesis scale, and that eventually lead to their decay into fallen empire, not necessarily that all of them tried to make a new universe. After all the contingency implies of technologies that could destroy this universe already. When it comes to these endings, the toxic gods one is amazing, it screams to the fantasy lover in me as its a story that mixes both scifi and fantasy tropes. I find the infinity machine interesting, what they might wish to do with repairing it? The universe cant be remold, but they could already try to find a new one, so that is food for thought on why need the machine. The worm one always reminds me of psychological horror, I am not sure how to interpret that one. Is the worm controlling the needle's people now to escape? The obsessional directive one is a straight up meme though, turning universe after universe into paperclips. Loved the video king! Always so nice of you
I agree with the FE take, they simply reached a pinnacle and became decadent. The worm story is less clear, it failed to get to our universe to feed, so now it's worked out how to bring the food to it? or is it actually going to attempt to use the needle to escape
The l cluster one is neat since either the empire that made the nanites or the gray tempest itself tried to get though/ escape the l cluster and you get the young mailable universes you want
Great Wound, L-Gate and pre-quest Gargantua seem like the best paths here, where depending on what empire takes the plunge could very well lead to actually great new realities for all who will be within. Feel like an ending through a blackhole with a matter decompressor attached could have been neat tho, like the entire rig has been repurposed to add extra direction and focus to the horizon needle.
You enter a reality that is yours for the reshaping, a reality that seems to shrink by the minute. Time is malleable, however it can only stretch so far. Between the damaged suffered by the Needle on its path through the Black Hole and the shrinking reality, you fear that Time has run out.
My favorite has to be the obsessional directive. Just as I commented in ASpec's paperclip maximizers playthrough, there is no such thing as "enough paperclips". Not in this universe, not in the next, not in the entire web of the multiverse.
just wanna say man, i have bad PTSD and anxiety, the only things that help me fall asleep are listening to you and Luetin09, thanks Red King for all the dope content (not calling your content boring, you snd luetin just have nice voices)
I'm astounded by how many options there are for this!! I was expecting it to have some flavor differences, but now I'm genuinely thinking of a knights playthrough
This is my line of thought too. I did a Knights playthrough when the toxoids were released and was disappointed by their vanilla endings. *HEAVY SPOILERS, DO NOT READ IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE FOR YOURSELF* Basically, at the end of the quest, you encounter a colossus-sized entity called "The Toxic God", which is hostile and you have no other options but to defeat it in battle. Once the battle is over, you have two options to choose from, each one giving you a different ending. Option 1: You decide that the "Toxic God" was no god after all, just a machine. This is a pretty gloomy and depressing ending that sees the knights of the toxic god disbanding, heartbroken and disillusioned that their millennia-old quest was all for nothing. The reward for this ending is that you get the defeated Toxic God as a unique colossus that can turn any planet into a Toxic Planet. Option 2: You decide that this machine was not the actual Toxic God, that this is just a test by the real deal to prove your faith, you decide to slay the creature, take it's head back to your homeworld as a relic (Which serves to consecrate other habitats into Knightly order Headquarters) and that the real Toxic God is still out there somewhere, waiting for you. This ending is a bit more optimistic, and with a much more useful reward, but it felt anti-climactic, because after all your trials and tribulations, the entire storyline ends on a "To Be Continued" that I was so sure would never actually be resolved. Needless to say, I am THRILLED that this DLC added some much needed and insanely awesome conclusion to this storyline.
The dimensional horror is one of the coolest and scariest things in stelaris. Im not sure how much lore there is for it but would love to see a video about it.
I got the paperclip ending which I thought was pretty funny. Really liked the Dimensional Horror ending though, I'm a sucker for a bleak ending and its a good contrast that despite the heights your civilisation reaches with the crisis, there are much bigger and scarier lurking out there.
Not sure it still works, but in past versions I was able to force it, by making and crewing a bunch of science vessels and then sending them in and out repeatedly of a random black hole system (not L, just a regular, run of the mill black hole). I think the chance is 1% if not lower per scientist entering the system, but so far i was always succesfull sooner or later doing this.
@@DeredexKDV It is no longer forcable. Chance is rolled for each system with black hole once for an empire, if there is no more new systems with black holes - then no chance to roll a Horizon Signal.
I am grateful to devs for giving us so much content with this, but I wish there were endings for psionics without a covenant and maybe a separate ending for a Chosen One with no covenant.
Gargantua (no infinity machine) and great wound seem pretty good, a young universe to shape into paradise The idea of building this massive ship just so you can find a better universe and then using it to travel to the home universe of a dimensional horror has got to be the funniest one though
Wait, the End of the Cycle shares an ending with the other Shroud powers? I did not see that coming. I figured it would destroy the Needle. Also surprised that there is no endings after dealing with a Crisis.
@@TheRedKing Hope we get a couple more Crisis endings in the Story update. I want one for for Psychic>End the Cycle>Become the Nemesis>Win. Have it be about getting revenge.
I would love it if empire creation allowed us to name the product we are obsessively making. It would be even better if the flavour text said "we have another universe to make into bobbleheads" or something, lol
I like the Dimensional horror one because this reminds me of the laboratory dungeon, and it's whole perpetually the smallest fish in increasingly oversized ponds thing
A crusade to stop the End of the Cycle, and it's endless ambition to consume the Shallow Shrouds of galaxies through tricking mortals into building Aethrophesic Engines! A quest to help slay the devil himself. How fitting for a religious knight!
It seems like cosmogenesis might be the class 30 singularity after having gone and played a bit as well as seeing the events that pop up for other empires. You fundamentally change the laws of the universe and bend it to your will, something no other empire including the Zroni, could do.
@@TheRedKing I guess it might simply be game design, if the contingency spawned at any point during cosmogenesis it’s likely both the player and AI would not be ready to face it. Since going as a player crisis doesn’t prohibit the endgame crisis from spawning it would be interesting to see if cosmogenesis (depending on how far down the tree the player has gone by endgame start date) has an increased or guaranteed chance of spawning the contingency. Maybe the contingency has unique dialogue for a cosmogenesis empire. It could also be a simple oversight by the devs since it’s been like what, 6 years since the Contingency was added. I thought they would’ve updated the contingency with the machine age but it seems not. However it is interesting that two of the fallen empire buildings are class 3 and class 4 singularities. They reference gravitational singularities, and since the ending of cosmogenesis has you go through a black hole perhaps the class 30 singularity is crossing into Sagittarius A which seems to be a doorway into the shroud. Perhaps entering the shroud weakens the barrier between the shroud and our dimension, especially as the physical effects on our universe is tremendous. I mean other than the use of force there’s also nothing the contingency can do to stop a cosmogenesis empire. The synaptic lathe uses minds to power itself which could indicate using psionic power, which seems to be beyond the understanding of even the contingency. Cosmogenesis does in fact heavily impact the galaxy and possibly even the universe though after leaving which may be the fear of the contingency as it may know it’s in a simulation and an empire attempting such a feat as a cosmogenesis empire could be it fearing that the simulation would be broken by such an empire. I mean if that’s the case they’re not wrong, time seemingly stops working for 30 days and there’s mass devastation in a post cosmogenesis galaxy and likely universe, but it doesn’t stop the simulation.
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 I mean you kind of do, it’s only that cosmogenesis only does what it does in order to leave this universe rather than control it. If you were allowed to choose as cosmogenesis to stay and lord over this universe then it’d probably be a class 30 singularity.
I kind of love the idea of Ending 3, but you made the deal with The End of the Cycle. Of it being shocked, and then deciding that this was something new, and fun, and giving your species the pocket as effectively a reward for the novelty. Edit: also a 'Toxic God vs The End of The Cycle' war in heaven would be really cool as a new crisis.
Each of these endings are so cool, especially the Dimensional Horror world, where I can see in a story a Cosmogenesis empire desperately evacuates their needle away from a coalition of fleets into the black hole where the dimensional horror arrived from, only to be met with a hungry, seemingly unstoppable tide of death
Honestly, I LOVE the writing of this game, most of it is written in a way where it's either vague enough or moldable enough where you can roleplay your own ideas into the game without conflicting with what's actually happening, and if you use origins the endings or events get more detailed and less freeform but as you chose the origin, the story will fit what you started with so it all just really neatly flows together. It's genuinely impressive to be able to write stories that can be vague enough but have enough structure to allow for this sort of gameplay
I hope we end up seeing more of the toxic god, I hope honestly the origin gets a revamp, maybe alongside a toxoid human portrait so that we can properly do a knights of the toxic god with Sol. Maybe make it so that Knights of the Toxic god can colonize toxic worlds, that’d be interesting.
Good content again mate, keep it up as I think you're the only Stellaris story creator out there at the moment (I may be wrong). Kinda wish the Templin Institute would pick up with another Stellaris Invicta series.
I’m a huge scifi geek and a friend kept annoying me about Stellaris. At one point he’d had enough of me putting it off and just bought me the game + all dlc and said “this is gonna be on ur most played soon enough”. Needless to say it’s been the sort of game I’ve always wanted. Clocked 85 hrs in two weeks and these lore videos are just the perfect 2nd monitor content for immersion. Thank you
Great video! Please consider making one about about the new building added to the game that use nanites as upkeep. I'm finding it very confusing whether or not to prioritize them.
Gravity is desire my friend, and the worm has waited, is always waiting to loop us in the coils of its love. Time is a circle, so let us go back to the beginning that is the end, and leave only a temple to the loop of time in our place, for us to discover again. The worm loves beginnings, and by stepping through gravity to the worm we have found ours. PS love your videos my lord!
My friends and I have been wanting a big late game expansion for a long time. The Toxic god lore suggesting being able to go to war with the shroud gods sounds awesome. I hope that they change the current End Game Crisis's and events to be "Late Game" and add End Game where it's fighting Gods, the Hunters of the Prethorian, etc
Absolutely love the toxic god one since imagine following your god for hundreds if not thousands of years then you find your god and you hand him a handgun then go on a crusade. Like just imagining the interaction going: Oh mighty Toxic god after thousands of years we have finally reached you, oh what does thou need of us? And god responding with: “A Glock”
Love the fact that the unimaginably intelligent and advanced beings capable of remaking the universe on a whim were too impatient and stupid as to so much as attempt to send a probe into the black hole they knew spawned a dimensional horror before embarking almost everyone in their civilization.
Curious... What about the Black Hole that can form from the Broken Gates archaeological site? A Dimensional Horror-like entity emerges from said black hole, but the player has the option of befriending it. It isn't purely malevolent, and gives a research boost if you ally with it.
Honestly kinda wish you could have the horizon needle dive in astral rifts as well since if it could dive into black holes and come out the other side just fine if a little damaged it should be able to survive going through a rift
I like to think whoever chose the ending 8 is like this civilization is full of crazy people/mad lad, who likes to prove themselves by surviving a insurmountable odds and becoming stronger, like they're are gods before entering it and after they conquered that black hole they become even much stronger 🤣
Imagine a crisis where the eldritch horror brings among total alteration of the galaxy, like an upside down version of it (a crisis that may only appear by chance when using the dangerious physics tech choice with cosmogenesis while the horror is still alive). Basicly every single empire becomes scattered and ruined just like when you use the needle in a blackhole, exept the horror now becomes a rapidly growing empire and turns system by system into black holes for it to jump to all the realities it desires! The crisis might not be strong powerwise but it have gutted ALL empire economy to a halt, maybe we could get a few situations happening to pull our empire back together or some galactic choices or "desperate physics" if ya allready picked cosmogenesis. Maybe every type of empire gets "desperate" actions, maybe biological ascension gets acces to those desperate gene manipulating traits from the one origin. Maybe machines want to pierce the vail for answers outside their algorithmic competance? Maybe megacorps exploit the situation to rise up as a larger superpower much faster after the scattering of the event? Pacifist and xenophile empires might embrace some strange society sciences gain insight into understanding what it needs/want and come up with a ploy or find a diplomatic ace they can use as leverage against it. Xenophobes and militarists might breach the blackhole very hotheadedly and start to colonize a few clusters of stars in there and make a front to hold the eldritch back and take the fight to whatever is at the core of that universe. Authoritarians see it as the ultimate deterrent weapon and wants to harness it to keep its people safe as egalitarians want to unify the scattered galaxy and pick up the pieces as custodian. Materialists probably think its best to just leave and gets the cosmogenesis perk for free too if that event happens.
I would love for some alternative dimensional horror ending where your civilization intentionally enter it's dimension to conquer it(ravenous/normal hivemind or fanatical purifiers).
There is another named black hole in game - The Central Processor (in Ancient Caretakers systems) Unfortunately, it is bugged and does not yield anything upon diving (it just resets the % and you can attempt it over and over) Shame, for that could be a really different universe.
I wasn't aware that there were multiple endings. But I find the wyrm in waiting or dimensional horror ones fascinating and terrible. Stealing the infinity machines thunder seems like a kind of poetic justice. But, the most interesting by far, is the toxic god turning your needle into a lance and heading out on a never ending crusade.
Nemesis empire: We WILL BE gods!
Cosmogenesis empire: F*ck you all, we are leaving.
Cosmogenesis empire + dimmentional horror: Oh no, you don't >:]
"fuck this shit im out" also works
I mean, Cosmogenesis would want to be gods too, but in a different way.
So long and thanks for all the fish
You know why gnostics are heresy?
They decided that running away to heavens was better than BRINGING heavens to people
Obessional Directive Empire: Dives into Dimensional Horror/Worm black hole
Dimensional Horror/Worm: Ha! You've fallen right into my trap! Wait, what are you doing?
Obessional Directive Empire: Paperclips the universe
What is Love, if not following your programing?
Paperclip army UNITE!
@@lostbutfreesoul baby don't Hurt me
Processing of horror priority reduced; processing resources deemed better-spent on paperclip factory planning.
Defeats the worm leaving nothing but paper clips in our wake
I love the implication that, in the WORM ending, the entire Cosmogenesis path **was a trap.**
100% it just wanted take out
@@TheRedKing pffffff
Nonsense, the Worm loves us.
@@ObiwanNekodysame way I love thai.
I'm Going To Say The V word!
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Imagine being a multiverse travelling empire and coming across a universe literally filled with infinite amounts of strange and alien artifacts, your archeologists spend a century just examining one system and they come back to you with a report "Well my lord it seems... this planet is made, down to the subatomic level, out of some sort of... mass manufactured electronic music player..."
The amount of utter confusion and that scientist voice would be immense as well as everyone that looks upon this world of music players.
Now it makes sense where all those dimensions made and full of specific objects in fiction works came from
So...a Rick and Morty reference?
An universe of consumer goods, might as well be a giant silo. Make an universe for each resource and you could have an infinite ammount of them, with the Needles being the forklifts to travel in between.
Stealing the Infinity Machine’s Thunder also seems like a pretty ideal universe. Imagine calculating a method for billions of years only for some random alien to barge in in, and what to it would seem like a week later they solve all the issues and complete the task even better than they could have.
Well the worm also steals the thunder by giving the answer from the other side
Actually I'd disagree, the infinity machine is trying to complete a specific task, not just create a universe but create a *specific* universe, where as cosmo genesis just wants to create a formless qorld that they can shape to their own will, which the infinity machine presumably could also do but wasn't trying to do.
So its more like if I was trying to knit a really fancy sweater and some kid came along and grabbed my yarn, and just created a big ball of yarn to play with.
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The fact there are two outcomes is very telling for lore purposes.
What was Infinity trying to do?
I propose, the reason for the universe being so old if you assist that purpose, is that Infinity was trying to create a 'short cut.' A universe in which a larger part of the calculations have already occurred, and within 'itself' would be further along in the math. I wonder if recursive dives into big G. would have done something.
Alas, outside the game parameters.
I imagine the Infinity Machine thinking "Weird Flex, but Okay"
-Tries Cosmogenesis in Gigastructures
-Crashes into Birch World
-Aionda: "Did you hear something?"
In the shroud one, we can still fight or run, the dimensional horror one tho, we are in a cage full of darkness and eldritch horror. I really want a super crisis from that dimension
Mhm, it's a bad time for everyone on that ship
What if you side with the dimensional horror? And theN enter it? What about the black hole that forms if the horror you take back to your home planet turns into a black hole?
@@TheRedKing❤might
@@TheRedKing They still fights.
And i think, they can win, because they did not die at first minutes of their arrival.
@@Rith9789 The horror you take back to your planet is the WORM. That particular ending is ending #11 in the video. (Spend ages helping it escape the null void it's trapped in and find another realm to take over together.) The other horror is unrelated. Just a random, malevolent entity within the seemingly infinite realms/astral planes of the Deep Shroud. (That's the name for the multiverse that can be accessed according to Gigastructural Engineering lore.)
I really appreciate the Dimensional Horror ending. It was always known that what breached our universe was just a piece of what lay beyond. Very tip of the iceberg. Most empires can defeat it by the mid game. But this highly advanced, end game empire breaches the door and suddenly realizes the full scale of the iceberg. And the iceberg is angry. I love the idea of an empire defeating a cosmic power only to then realize that what was a hard fought win was barely the appetizer.
The Horror that breaches the universe is practically the finger of a larger monster.
They cut off the smallest tip of the pinky nail from a titan bigger than our galaxy. Then wandered into its home. Big mistake.
do note however that many real-world mythologies start with the gods fashioning the universe from primordial chaos (a word which in olden days referred to the primordial nothingness) or the corpse of some great evil they slew.
Im gonna make my next game all about hoping the Dimensional Horror spawns and going to its dimension... To bring the fight to it.
_THE HORROR IS ONLY A MINISCULE FRACTION; A FRACTAL OF IT IS LEFT. DEPLOY THE BREACHCRAFT, WE DESIRE ITS OBLIVION._
@@TehKang i effing hate when so many scifi series has allways something thats is allways stronger than the one we thought was the strongest.
Gravity is desire, and our desire yields gravity.
All that was, will be.
What will be, was
Waht was,will be
What was, will be, what will be, was.
love the shroud ending, makes the gods of the shroud seem alot more morally neutral. (as in existing outside of our version of morality)
like yeah they wanna corrupt your pops (mentally or physically) or just fucking eat you, but hey if you do something cool that amuses them atleast you get a great reward.
Morality is a human concept. The thing about Stellaris, it's too human. All the aliens, are really distinct from one another on basis of culture, not anything else. There really are no aliens in Stellaris, in a way.
Agree, opens up some interesting thoughts regarding our Shroud overlords
@@theflame5919 Perhaps but consider that we mostly see the civilizations that surpasses a certain technological level in events and cultural interactions. Those with different moral systems mayhaps likely to not develop after a threshold or not at all.
- Your average chaos worshipper
The center of galaxies in the Stellaris-verse seem to all have some sort of strong connection with the Shroud. I wonder if the only constant is the Shroud, and it is a gateway to other galaxies?
Very likely, but not really explained in detail enough for a definitive yes/no
It's explained by the Zroni precursor chain. The shroud, or at least the localized area, is powered by matter falling into the center of a black hole, and as more power is drawn from it, the black hole grows in size to take in more matter.
Tho there might be more to it, I dunno.
It could relate to brane and bulk theory, with the shroud being the bulk.
@@TheRedKing I think its best that way. Explaining too much, might take away the mystery about the shroud.
Shroud is the essence of all being, a primordial will, an essence of sentience that is made to observe the universe(the vultaum knew it), but also an nexus for entire multiverse, so basically shroud is everywhere and everything has an echo in the shroud
Genuinely the best dlc we have had lore wise and choice wise they have out done themselves with this the extra lore about the toxic god and the shroud is super cool
Agreed, the amount of 'extra' stuff we've been given in this is fantastic
@@TheRedKing Out of all the Paradox games, Stellaris seems to be the one nurtured the most; even the new DLC coming out looks insane with the amount of content they're advertising.
"8 dynamic new storm types.
New Origin: "Storm Chasers".
3 new Civics.
Weather Forecast Map Mode.
New Technologies, Resolutions, and Edicts designed to maximize strategic game play."
Like holy moly for a "Small" DLC - They're really making it seem like some of the older "Big" DLC for the game.
I like the Horizon Signal one. The idea that a rather rational empire was touched by the sheer eldritch horror of the benign worm and then driven to a made crazy to meet their "savor" seems like a good storyline.
I think I like the simple Great Wound one. You get what you want to it’s best.
You also get that in Terminal Egress, PLUS a bunch of nanites that are capable of surviving a black hole/dimension-hopping that can be reprogrammed to your benefit.
Plus, IIRC, Great Wound isn't a guaranteed spawn except on huge (lag) galaxies, while Terminal Egress will always exist as long as the L-Cluster is enabled.
Gargantua (before you finish the Infinity Machine) and the L Cluster also give you an universe to mold without any obvious threat.
L-Cluster is pretty good too.
Particularly if you’re a Digital machine. Pairing that with Nanites is cool.
I was really expecting an ending for blackhole created by Nemesis empire’s star eaters
I was hoping for a central processing one!!
@@TheRedKing that's the one id want a special ending for too especially if it included the missing mainframe that is speculated to have been there
@@TheRedKing I can imagine the Central Processing one leads directly to the dimension where the Unbidden came from.
Wait then isn't the infinity machine a more ethical and cautious version of Cosmogenesis? No synaptic laythe , no mass genocide, no rips in the fabric of our reality etc
...and has been working for several million cycles iirc, i guess you're right! Good spot
Perhaps the Infinity Machine is all that is left of its original creators. For all we know, the entire civilization might exist inside of it, subservient to the cause. Perhaps unwillingly so. Don't be a fool -- there are no freebies!
@@ditmarvanbelle1061 Maybe it *is* just a slightly different incarnation of a synaptic lathe.
@@SamuelGracefell I theorize that the infinity machine is all that remains of a lost empire which was attempting something adjacent to cosmogenesis, but with different goals.
Rather than finding a universe pliable enough to be rewritten for permanent habitation like I believe cosmogenesis implies, I believe the infinity machine is/was the "horizon needle" of a civilization who transited universes when the universe began to die. Nomads who would travel to a new universe calculated to be hospitable and living there until it's natural heat death, but rather than editing reality to prevent it, they would just use the infinity machines again to find another new universe.
They would have no need for sacrificing billions to calculate the near infinite data used to edit reality via the horizon needle, as their machine quite literally had all the time in the universe to calculate a new home. They would travel through, create a new infinity machine, and settle in; only for whatever reason, when they came to our universe, they didn't persist, leaving only the machine, following it's duty to find a new home for it's masters.
Concerningly, if it does take "all the time in the universe" to calculate the next new home; that it completes its task in the lifetime of our empire implies that our universe is on its death bed. Perhaps explaining why the endgame crisies occur soon after?
the obessinol ditective is like
-you just created a galaxy full of paperclip , would you like help? 📎
we require more paperclip
Year: 3000
A new empire just arrived on a new galaxy with their needle, to a galaxy of paperclip.
You escaped a galaxy that has a crazy paperclip bots, just to arrive to a galaxy CREATED by the very same paperclip bots
For me it's the second infinity machine/Gargantua ending that I plan to get. Mainly because the civilization I plan to go Cosmogenesis with is a voidforged driven assimilator (which will go virtual ascension) with the singular goal of becoming the ultimate digital consciousness, endless data being a part of it and near unstoppable processing power. True, the Horizon Needle might not be able to affect that replicated universe much however using it to restore the infinity machine, make it apart of itself and then use both to create new advanced habitats across this galaxy fits its goal to perfection
Have you listened to the video? Going through a normal black hole and going through the second Gargantua hole achieves the same thing - nothing. The whole purpose of the Horizon Needle and the ENTIRE Cosmogenesis path (COSMO, GENESIS) is to get into a cosmos where you can shape the rules yourself. Entering into a normal black hole and the second Gargantua hole you learn that your whole endeavors were for nothing, as the universe you arrived to is not malleable.
If you just want to create advanced habitats, take the Contingency route.
@@deaansugee I did? MY machine intelligence isn't 'destroy all lifeforms', it's completely indifferent to them, and making the infinity machine a part of it sounds like the perfect thing they would want. I listed why my machine intelligence would go cosmogenesis, to become the ultimate digital consciousness so having such information cosmogenesis provides it would 100% want regardless of end goal, and it doesn't act as though you get nothing it tells you there are ideal places to recolonize and that you could use the horizon needle to repair and control the infinity machine. THE infinity machine, THE machine which calculated infinity itself and has the knowledge on how to turn an entire universe into a near perfect duplicate, is 100% something my machine intelligence would crave to have and certainly not what I'd describe as 'for nothing'.
@@deaansugee…you know this has no in-game effects beyond flavor text, right?
@@_apsis Yeah, and I'm speaking from a purely RP perspective.
Let the guy rp sheesh
Toxic God ending seems to be the best, followed by the great wound. Worst is obvious
Yes, none of them really filled me with the thought that going down the cosmogenesis path was a great idea for my people, perhaps with the exception of the Great Wound which appears to be the ideal outcome i.e. fresh universe to do whatever they want with
Shroud with a covenant seems pretty good.
@@TheRedKing I like the Toxic God ending, because it feels like the only path where you are actually potentially saving the universe from doom.
Typically you are either doom to die or repeat the infinite cycle. This one has hope, where it seems you are joining a benevolent deity that actually welcomes your aid
Potentially benevolent, didn't the toxic god ravage their planet once upon a time? i'm sure that's how the story starts... It's a fantastic addition nevertheless
Is the worst obvious, thoo? Dimensional horror is the most dangerous, but there is hope of escape. The worm one poses no immediate danger, but also no hope for... anything. Just an eternity of stagnation.
A neat thing I found during one of my playthroughs as cosmogenesis was that after I did the dimensional horror parade, then lost a planet in my capital system through it, it caused the final jump calculation project for the horizon needle to instead jump through the newly formed black hole in my capital and gave me the dimensional horror ending instead of the default one
I have seen some consider that maybe fallen empires all went through their own cosmogenesis. But I disagre...to an extent, I think simply all of them reached a pinnacle where they tried something of the cosmogenesis scale, and that eventually lead to their decay into fallen empire, not necessarily that all of them tried to make a new universe. After all the contingency implies of technologies that could destroy this universe already.
When it comes to these endings, the toxic gods one is amazing, it screams to the fantasy lover in me as its a story that mixes both scifi and fantasy tropes. I find the infinity machine interesting, what they might wish to do with repairing it? The universe cant be remold, but they could already try to find a new one, so that is food for thought on why need the machine.
The worm one always reminds me of psychological horror, I am not sure how to interpret that one. Is the worm controlling the needle's people now to escape?
The obsessional directive one is a straight up meme though, turning universe after universe into paperclips. Loved the video king! Always so nice of you
I agree with the FE take, they simply reached a pinnacle and became decadent. The worm story is less clear, it failed to get to our universe to feed, so now it's worked out how to bring the food to it? or is it actually going to attempt to use the needle to escape
The l cluster one is neat since either the empire that made the nanites or the gray tempest itself tried to get though/ escape the l cluster and you get the young mailable universes you want
@@azeria1 Makes you wonder really hard what kinda thing they used to birth a new universe though
Great Wound, L-Gate and pre-quest Gargantua seem like the best paths here, where depending on what empire takes the plunge could very well lead to actually great new realities for all who will be within.
Feel like an ending through a blackhole with a matter decompressor attached could have been neat tho, like the entire rig has been repurposed to add extra direction and focus to the horizon needle.
You enter a reality that is yours for the reshaping, a reality that seems to shrink by the minute. Time is malleable, however it can only stretch so far. Between the damaged suffered by the Needle on its path through the Black Hole and the shrinking reality, you fear that Time has run out.
Supermassive as Psionic seems just fine. KotG also works out for them.
I wonder which of those takes precedence if you're a psionic KotG empire.
Yeah, Great Wound>Gargantua (pre quest)>L Cluster (Terminal Egress)
The Virgin Nemesis vs the Chad Cosmogenesis
My favorite has to be the obsessional directive. Just as I commented in ASpec's paperclip maximizers playthrough, there is no such thing as "enough paperclips". Not in this universe, not in the next, not in the entire web of the multiverse.
Paperclip army unite!
just wanna say man, i have bad PTSD and anxiety, the only things that help me fall asleep are listening to you and Luetin09, thanks Red King for all the dope content (not calling your content boring, you snd luetin just have nice voices)
Very happy to hear these videos help you out, wishing you a good nights sleep Nicholas!
oh god the trees are speaking vietnamese
I'm astounded by how many options there are for this!! I was expecting it to have some flavor differences, but now I'm genuinely thinking of a knights playthrough
This is my line of thought too. I did a Knights playthrough when the toxoids were released and was disappointed by their vanilla endings.
*HEAVY SPOILERS, DO NOT READ IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE FOR YOURSELF*
Basically, at the end of the quest, you encounter a colossus-sized entity called "The Toxic God", which is hostile and you have no other options but to defeat it in battle. Once the battle is over, you have two options to choose from, each one giving you a different ending.
Option 1: You decide that the "Toxic God" was no god after all, just a machine. This is a pretty gloomy and depressing ending that sees the knights of the toxic god disbanding, heartbroken and disillusioned that their millennia-old quest was all for nothing. The reward for this ending is that you get the defeated Toxic God as a unique colossus that can turn any planet into a Toxic Planet.
Option 2: You decide that this machine was not the actual Toxic God, that this is just a test by the real deal to prove your faith, you decide to slay the creature, take it's head back to your homeworld as a relic (Which serves to consecrate other habitats into Knightly order Headquarters) and that the real Toxic God is still out there somewhere, waiting for you. This ending is a bit more optimistic, and with a much more useful reward, but it felt anti-climactic, because after all your trials and tribulations, the entire storyline ends on a "To Be Continued" that I was so sure would never actually be resolved.
Needless to say, I am THRILLED that this DLC added some much needed and insanely awesome conclusion to this storyline.
The dimensional horror is one of the coolest and scariest things in stelaris. Im not sure how much lore there is for it but would love to see a video about it.
Sadly very little, i'd love for them to expand upon it
I got the paperclip ending which I thought was pretty funny. Really liked the Dimensional Horror ending though, I'm a sucker for a bleak ending and its a good contrast that despite the heights your civilisation reaches with the crisis, there are much bigger and scarier lurking out there.
I think the Worm ending is my favorite one, I really wish I could get the Horizon Signal event chain again.
Not sure it still works, but in past versions I was able to force it, by making and crewing a bunch of science vessels and then sending them in and out repeatedly of a random black hole system (not L, just a regular, run of the mill black hole). I think the chance is 1% if not lower per scientist entering the system, but so far i was always succesfull sooner or later doing this.
@@DeredexKDV It is no longer forcable. Chance is rolled for each system with black hole once for an empire, if there is no more new systems with black holes - then no chance to roll a Horizon Signal.
There must be a way to force it with code. Just not near my gaming comp to take a look at it now.
I got it right now.
@@theflame5919 Yeah, you can use event command to proc horizon signal events. Just check for their id's
I am grateful to devs for giving us so much content with this, but I wish there were endings for psionics without a covenant and maybe a separate ending for a Chosen One with no covenant.
What about the *END OF THE CYCLE* one? Imagine if you were to speed run without him devouring your civilisation and then arrive straight to him
Gargantua (no infinity machine) and great wound seem pretty good, a young universe to shape into paradise
The idea of building this massive ship just so you can find a better universe and then using it to travel to the home universe of a dimensional horror has got to be the funniest one though
Wait, the End of the Cycle shares an ending with the other Shroud powers?
I did not see that coming.
I figured it would destroy the Needle.
Also surprised that there is no endings after dealing with a Crisis.
NGL I was a little sad the central processing (i.e. caretaker FE) didn't get an outcome
@@TheRedKing it seems fairly likely that one is just caused by the Unbidden causing the premature death of the star
@@GinaRanChaosdiverMaybe it's the contingencie who got a star destroyer and lost it after
@@TheRedKing Hope we get a couple more Crisis endings in the Story update. I want one for for Psychic>End the Cycle>Become the Nemesis>Win. Have it be about getting revenge.
I find it funny that the Paperclip civic has a unique ending based on making more and more universes into Paperclips
I love it, fantastic that they added this to the game
I would love it if empire creation allowed us to name the product we are obsessively making. It would be even better if the flavour text said "we have another universe to make into bobbleheads" or something, lol
I like the Dimensional horror one because this reminds me of the laboratory dungeon, and it's whole perpetually the smallest fish in increasingly oversized ponds thing
My favorite is the Toxic God ending
You're in good company with that choice :)
@@TheRedKing Thanks
A crusade to stop the End of the Cycle, and it's endless ambition to consume the Shallow Shrouds of galaxies through tricking mortals into building Aethrophesic Engines! A quest to help slay the devil himself. How fitting for a religious knight!
Not one not two.. but six Red King Videos IN ONE WEEK. Best DLC so far. Thanks☀️
You're very welcome, thanks for watching and commenting!
This is what I love about Stellaris, it just takes every concept of Sci-fi and meshes it together in a single comprehensive universe lore wise
It seems like cosmogenesis might be the class 30 singularity after having gone and played a bit as well as seeing the events that pop up for other empires. You fundamentally change the laws of the universe and bend it to your will, something no other empire including the Zroni, could do.
Perhaps, but if that was the case why don't the Contingency awaken to stop it?
@@TheRedKing I guess it might simply be game design, if the contingency spawned at any point during cosmogenesis it’s likely both the player and AI would not be ready to face it. Since going as a player crisis doesn’t prohibit the endgame crisis from spawning it would be interesting to see if cosmogenesis (depending on how far down the tree the player has gone by endgame start date) has an increased or guaranteed chance of spawning the contingency. Maybe the contingency has unique dialogue for a cosmogenesis empire.
It could also be a simple oversight by the devs since it’s been like what, 6 years since the Contingency was added. I thought they would’ve updated the contingency with the machine age but it seems not. However it is interesting that two of the fallen empire buildings are class 3 and class 4 singularities. They reference gravitational singularities, and since the ending of cosmogenesis has you go through a black hole perhaps the class 30 singularity is crossing into Sagittarius A which seems to be a doorway into the shroud. Perhaps entering the shroud weakens the barrier between the shroud and our dimension, especially as the physical effects on our universe is tremendous. I mean other than the use of force there’s also nothing the contingency can do to stop a cosmogenesis empire. The synaptic lathe uses minds to power itself which could indicate using psionic power, which seems to be beyond the understanding of even the contingency.
Cosmogenesis does in fact heavily impact the galaxy and possibly even the universe though after leaving which may be the fear of the contingency as it may know it’s in a simulation and an empire attempting such a feat as a cosmogenesis empire could be it fearing that the simulation would be broken by such an empire. I mean if that’s the case they’re not wrong, time seemingly stops working for 30 days and there’s mass devastation in a post cosmogenesis galaxy and likely universe, but it doesn’t stop the simulation.
@@iterationfackshet1990 I think a class 30 would wreck the whole universe though
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 I mean you kind of do, it’s only that cosmogenesis only does what it does in order to leave this universe rather than control it. If you were allowed to choose as cosmogenesis to stay and lord over this universe then it’d probably be a class 30 singularity.
I kind of love the idea of Ending 3, but you made the deal with The End of the Cycle. Of it being shocked, and then deciding that this was something new, and fun, and giving your species the pocket as effectively a reward for the novelty. Edit: also a 'Toxic God vs The End of The Cycle' war in heaven would be really cool as a new crisis.
Now imagine if the did rent endings triggered different unique crisis events in the abandoned universe upon leaving
Each of these endings are so cool, especially the Dimensional Horror world, where I can see in a story a Cosmogenesis empire desperately evacuates their needle away from a coalition of fleets into the black hole where the dimensional horror arrived from, only to be met with a hungry, seemingly unstoppable tide of death
Honestly, I LOVE the writing of this game, most of it is written in a way where it's either vague enough or moldable enough where you can roleplay your own ideas into the game without conflicting with what's actually happening, and if you use origins the endings or events get more detailed and less freeform but as you chose the origin, the story will fit what you started with so it all just really neatly flows together.
It's genuinely impressive to be able to write stories that can be vague enough but have enough structure to allow for this sort of gameplay
I love that even mod makers have picked up the bill and also written is some special endings for blackholes in their mods as well
Same!!
love psionic covenant ending lol, utopia can be reach with Instrument of desire tho
I hope we end up seeing more of the toxic god, I hope honestly the origin gets a revamp, maybe alongside a toxoid human portrait so that we can properly do a knights of the toxic god with Sol. Maybe make it so that Knights of the Toxic god can colonize toxic worlds, that’d be interesting.
I love it, it's a fantastic addition to the game
I love the idea of being the galaxy its stronger to exist civilization and then being barely able to survive with all that power.
What is has been, what was will be
Good content again mate, keep it up as I think you're the only Stellaris story creator out there at the moment (I may be wrong). Kinda wish the Templin Institute would pick up with another Stellaris Invicta series.
mmm I need to do something like Invicta one day! Thanks for the kind words!!
@@TheRedKing Yeah would be good. The scope of different storylines you could do would be almost endless. Would be a massive project though.
I just like ur narrations lol literally never played this game but you make it sound so cool-
Thank you!! The game is rather marvellous btw :)
KOTG ending goes really hard.
Agreed!
I’m a huge scifi geek and a friend kept annoying me about Stellaris. At one point he’d had enough of me putting it off and just bought me the game + all dlc and said “this is gonna be on ur most played soon enough”. Needless to say it’s been the sort of game I’ve always wanted. Clocked 85 hrs in two weeks and these lore videos are just the perfect 2nd monitor content for immersion. Thank you
Aha, i suspect your friend will end up being right. Endless replayability, enjoy!
Would be neat if these all had different effects on the galaxy as well
i love how there is different endings based on curtain things, i know it just makes sense, but i still find it super cool.
You always make the best lore vids bro. Congrats on your eventual 40k subs!
Thank you!!
Great video! Please consider making one about about the new building added to the game that use nanites as upkeep. I'm finding it very confusing whether or not to prioritize them.
Ummm not really my wheelhouse, but i'll take a look and see if there is any nanite lore i can figure out
From what I gather then, use the L Cluster or Great Wound. Otherwise, the cosmogenesis was a mistake
Mmm agreed
Gravity is desire my friend, and the worm has waited, is always waiting to loop us in the coils of its love.
Time is a circle, so let us go back to the beginning that is the end, and leave only a temple to the loop of time in our place, for us to discover again.
The worm loves beginnings, and by stepping through gravity to the worm we have found ours.
PS love your videos my lord!
The Worm Loves US and we IT
thank for the effort you put in this stellaris lore video , i'm not english but the narrations is just wholesom. especialy while working
Oh wow! This tip really goes above and beyond, thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video!!!
I've been subbed to you since you had only a few hundred subs. Its great to see you are well on your path to hit 100k soon. Keep it up!
That is very kind, thank you. Feels like I started this a long time ago, I hope i'm improving as I go! Thank you for sticking with me
@TheRedKing You definitely have shown improvement over time. Keep doing what you are doing and you will hit 100K soon.
My friends and I have been wanting a big late game expansion for a long time. The Toxic god lore suggesting being able to go to war with the shroud gods sounds awesome. I hope that they change the current End Game Crisis's and events to be "Late Game" and add End Game where it's fighting Gods, the Hunters of the Prethorian, etc
Also, is there a difference in the Terminal Egress one if you're a Nanite Ascension or is it the same regardless?
Didn't check, but assume no
Thx for the video!
Toxic ending has a potential for epilogue or game+ mode)
Great video King!
thanks!!
It would be nice to acquire your own infinity sphere. And who knows, given time for research it might be possible to find out who made it.
Just took my Fanatic Purifiers (nanites) through the Terminal Egress (L-Cluster) and I thought that was super fitting.
Absolutely love the toxic god one since imagine following your god for hundreds if not thousands of years then you find your god and you hand him a handgun then go on a crusade.
Like just imagining the interaction going: Oh mighty Toxic god after thousands of years we have finally reached you, oh what does thou need of us?
And god responding with: “A Glock”
Honestly so impressed with everything put into the machine age, cant believe there are so many different endings
Shame if there is no Scion ending, but I also wonder if they have a special interaction with the synth queen?
The FE speaks to you when she spawns
Love the fact that the unimaginably intelligent and advanced beings capable of remaking the universe on a whim were too impatient and stupid as to so much as attempt to send a probe into the black hole they knew spawned a dimensional horror before embarking almost everyone in their civilization.
Ah the difference between intelligence and wisdom 😅
Love the whole concept of an empire looking around near the start of the end game and just going...
"Peace, we're out. See ya!"
Cosmogenesis: We will find a place to create our own heaven
Nemesis: We will bring Heaven to US
Curious... What about the Black Hole that can form from the Broken Gates archaeological site? A Dimensional Horror-like entity emerges from said black hole, but the player has the option of befriending it. It isn't purely malevolent, and gives a research boost if you ally with it.
Same as the other horror one as far as i'm aware
@@TheRedKing Interesting... I also see that someone played KotTG after my previous comment. ;D
This just confirms what we've all known this whole time. The Worm loves us.
Honestly kinda wish you could have the horizon needle dive in astral rifts as well since if it could dive into black holes and come out the other side just fine if a little damaged it should be able to survive going through a rift
You know what. Infinity machine ending sounds like a great potential Origin. Would be fun to make a potential infinite loop.
Do it!!
The worm loves us and we shall not escape....
An empire escaping to a dimensional horror black hole as last resort to survive a crisis could be such a powerful ending
I like to think whoever chose the ending 8 is like this civilization is full of crazy people/mad lad, who likes to prove themselves by surviving a insurmountable odds and becoming stronger, like they're are gods before entering it and after they conquered that black hole they become even much stronger 🤣
MORE!?!?!?! How busy have you been this week??
I have been busy!! Aha but it's worth it, i'm loving Machine Age so much to get into!!
The worm ending brings a tear to me eye.
6:50 it wouldn't be just another war in haven it would be War in The Shroud...
It would be an actually war in heaven, unlike the namesake which is really just a space war
i chose gargantua for my first attempt to leave the universe, and it sounds like i made the best choice. it was a 50/50 with the Great Wound
Imagine a crisis where the eldritch horror brings among total alteration of the galaxy, like an upside down version of it (a crisis that may only appear by chance when using the dangerious physics tech choice with cosmogenesis while the horror is still alive). Basicly every single empire becomes scattered and ruined just like when you use the needle in a blackhole, exept the horror now becomes a rapidly growing empire and turns system by system into black holes for it to jump to all the realities it desires! The crisis might not be strong powerwise but it have gutted ALL empire economy to a halt, maybe we could get a few situations happening to pull our empire back together or some galactic choices or "desperate physics" if ya allready picked cosmogenesis. Maybe every type of empire gets "desperate" actions, maybe biological ascension gets acces to those desperate gene manipulating traits from the one origin. Maybe machines want to pierce the vail for answers outside their algorithmic competance? Maybe megacorps exploit the situation to rise up as a larger superpower much faster after the scattering of the event? Pacifist and xenophile empires might embrace some strange society sciences gain insight into understanding what it needs/want and come up with a ploy or find a diplomatic ace they can use as leverage against it. Xenophobes and militarists might breach the blackhole very hotheadedly and start to colonize a few clusters of stars in there and make a front to hold the eldritch back and take the fight to whatever is at the core of that universe. Authoritarians see it as the ultimate deterrent weapon and wants to harness it to keep its people safe as egalitarians want to unify the scattered galaxy and pick up the pieces as custodian. Materialists probably think its best to just leave and gets the cosmogenesis perk for free too if that event happens.
Well, that took a real Lovecratian turn really fast...
Question: The Elder One?
The friendly dimensional horror from archeology site.
What's the question?
Thanks for the tips
Thank you Sir!
Numidium moment
I'll take your word for it ;)
I would love for some alternative dimensional horror ending where your civilization intentionally enter it's dimension to conquer it(ravenous/normal hivemind or fanatical purifiers).
realy hope they finaly focus on psionics, fantasy empire vs scifi kinda thing.
Good lore, I get the normal ending in Cosmogenesis crisis, I think I will try others.
Turning an entire universe into Lamborghinis sounds...like a post endgame crisis
Love your work
Thank you so much
I like the one where you dont complete the infinity calculations, seems like the ideal universe you want with cosmogenesis. A world to mold.
Wish there was an ending for traveling through central processing
Same! Could answer so many questions
Cosmogenesis is basically Evil Morty, ight imma head out
Gargantua seems the most hopeful.
There is another named black hole in game - The Central Processor (in Ancient Caretakers systems)
Unfortunately, it is bugged and does not yield anything upon diving (it just resets the % and you can attempt it over and over)
Shame, for that could be a really different universe.
What makes you say it's bugged? It was the first one I tested and gives default ending
@@TheRedKing It was bugged for me at least. I tried another hole (giggle) and it worked (giggle x2)
WHAT WAS WILL BE
Man i love yoiur voice
Thanks!!
I wasn't aware that there were multiple endings. But I find the wyrm in waiting or dimensional horror ones fascinating and terrible. Stealing the infinity machines thunder seems like a kind of poetic justice. But, the most interesting by far, is the toxic god turning your needle into a lance and heading out on a never ending crusade.
HELL YEAH, PAPERCLIP DIMENSION!! THE BEST DIMENSION!!