Amazing tutorial. I've been struggling with OCIO workflow, and you really helped me understand it a bit more. Loved the tip about applying the colorspace interpretation on imported outside footage. Thank you so much for this!
Thanks for this very simple and clear explanation! Is there a way to render it with the display color space that is being used in AE? it looks like it's defaulting to no color space when rendering. Is the display color space just for AE and not the final render? EDIT: just figured out that I needed to manually change the output color space to the same one I'm using for the display color space if I want it to look the same.
Please always keep in mind that ACEScg is a working colorspace only. For exports/transfers to other software or vendors always use ACES 2065-1 (AP0) and choose a codec, that is capable of linear float such as OpenEXR 16bit half. The automatic tagging as ACES 2065-1 that happend to your BG is as intended and the same in other applications, if your source does not have a color space tag in it's metadata. ACES workflows always expect ACES 2065-1 as a default if not told different, because it is the defined standard for renders within the ACES scene referred universe.
Thank you for this tutorial!! Colors are looking right in After effects but not in the rendered video, then as you mentioned the rendered video will look right in any program that support openIO/ACESsg. What about rendering with the colors looking right in any media player or to upload on youtube? how would you do that?
Thanks for the comment and the nice words. For RUclips you'll need to convert back to Rec. 709 so it's better NOT to start with ACESsg workflow and just work as usual. This OpenIO workflow is aimed towards the film industry. For SDR and the internet use Rec. 709 or sRGB. For HDR delivery (most of the streaming services) use Rec. 2020 HLG unless requested something else.
@@SternFX Great tutorial! Thank you. Question. When you say "covert back to rec .709", do you mean set the color space in the export to rec.709 when it's going to render, or is there another step along the way? Thanks again!
@@sharonpalkowetz I suggest using an adjustment layer and to it apply the Color Profile Converter effect. Set your input and output profiles according to your needs, and then render without embedding any color profile.
Thanks Eran! Quick question: what if I want to composite some motion graphics with either AE layers or AI layers? It changes those colors too, but I cannot "interpret footage" on those types of things. Is there a trick to having both?
has anyone tried adding a simple gaussian blur to a layer using ACES colour management? Adobe's implementation of ACES seems to be completely broken. None of the effects work properly anymore.
Yet another color space tutorial that only gives you half the necessary info. Why do you set your bit depth to 32 bit? Does it need to be 32 bit to be correct, even if you've rendered to 8 or 16 bit? What's the difference between the compositing color spaces and what should it be set to (saying "You can choose a compositing color space here" is really super not helpful.) And, what about outputting for video to be played back on a TV or computer monitor, which is what the VAST majority of people using After Effects are going to be doing? Almost nobody is going to have a use for rendering to ACEScg out of After Effects.
Amazing tutorial. I've been struggling with OCIO workflow, and you really helped me understand it a bit more. Loved the tip about applying the colorspace interpretation on imported outside footage.
Thank you so much for this!
You're very welcome!
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Thanks for this very simple and clear explanation! Is there a way to render it with the display color space that is being used in AE? it looks like it's defaulting to no color space when rendering. Is the display color space just for AE and not the final render?
EDIT: just figured out that I needed to manually change the output color space to the same one I'm using for the display color space if I want it to look the same.
Please always keep in mind that ACEScg is a working colorspace only. For exports/transfers to other software or vendors always use ACES 2065-1 (AP0) and choose a codec, that is capable of linear float such as OpenEXR 16bit half.
The automatic tagging as ACES 2065-1 that happend to your BG is as intended and the same in other applications, if your source does not have a color space tag in it's metadata. ACES workflows always expect ACES 2065-1 as a default if not told different, because it is the defined standard for renders within the ACES scene referred universe.
Thank you!
Thank you for this tutorial!!
Colors are looking right in After effects but not in the rendered video, then as you mentioned the rendered video will look right in any program that support openIO/ACESsg.
What about rendering with the colors looking right in any media player or to upload on youtube? how would you do that?
Thanks for the comment and the nice words.
For RUclips you'll need to convert back to Rec. 709 so it's better NOT to start with ACESsg workflow and just work as usual. This OpenIO workflow is aimed towards the film industry. For SDR and the internet use Rec. 709 or sRGB. For HDR delivery (most of the streaming services) use Rec. 2020 HLG unless requested something else.
@@SternFX Great tutorial! Thank you. Question. When you say "covert back to rec .709", do you mean set the color space in the export to rec.709 when it's going to render, or is there another step along the way? Thanks again!
@@sharonpalkowetz I suggest using an adjustment layer and to it apply the Color Profile Converter effect. Set your input and output profiles according to your needs, and then render without embedding any color profile.
@@SternFX Confusing and not accurate.
@@SternFX This won't work.
thanks for the tutorial, just realized it's best for my sanity to just stick with adobe managed colors because this does my head in xD
haha same here hurts too much to try and figure this all out why dont they just make it one click ughghhghghg
Thank you for this explanation! Just wondering how do we go about exporting through encoder media? my exported file colour gone wrong.
I don't think Media Encoder is supported at this time. You need to use Ae Render Queue as demonstrated.
So... if you want to render a quicktime that others can view that will look the same?
Yes, as long as they use the ACES color management system,
If not, you can use one of the utility effects to convert to a different color system.
Thanks
Amazing video
Thanks!
@@SternFX Welcome!
Thanks Eran! Quick question: what if I want to composite some motion graphics with either AE layers or AI layers? It changes those colors too, but I cannot "interpret footage" on those types of things. Is there a trick to having both?
Native Ae elements are managed using the color settings of the project
I was looking for a way to actually embed the color correction into the rendered video. Is there a way to do that?
No that I know of, you can only embed the color space.
So then would you export rec.709 instead and not the ACES working color space?
That depends on your output delivery. If you need to publish to TV or the web then you should convert to Rec.709
Why am I missing Color Management tab in project settings?
Maybe you're on an older version of Ae. Try to update to 23 or higher
has anyone tried adding a simple gaussian blur to a layer using ACES colour management? Adobe's implementation of ACES seems to be completely broken. None of the effects work properly anymore.
Maybe this will help: helpx.adobe.com/uk/after-effects/using/whats-new/2024.html#ocio-workflow-enhancements
Yet another color space tutorial that only gives you half the necessary info. Why do you set your bit depth to 32 bit? Does it need to be 32 bit to be correct, even if you've rendered to 8 or 16 bit? What's the difference between the compositing color spaces and what should it be set to (saying "You can choose a compositing color space here" is really super not helpful.) And, what about outputting for video to be played back on a TV or computer monitor, which is what the VAST majority of people using After Effects are going to be doing? Almost nobody is going to have a use for rendering to ACEScg out of After Effects.
Thanks for the input. I’ll try to do better next time and also make another one filling out the missing details.