Should Christians Join Fraternities and Sororities?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @thebeatagp
    @thebeatagp  3 года назад +79

    Hey BEAT family! Technical difficulties today but we got our video out. This is a question that so many people have asked me over the years that I finally got around to answering. Let me know your thoughts below. Enjoy and have a great weekend!

    • @NewCreationInChrist896
      @NewCreationInChrist896 3 года назад +9

      No Christian should join a secret society.
      ruclips.net/video/XhgskjkGE-g/видео.html

    • @msvoice1
      @msvoice1 3 года назад +5

      Finally, my question answered!! Thank you. Love this channel.

    • @victoriageib8866
      @victoriageib8866 3 года назад +4

      Thank you Rev Parr! I joined an academic fraternity in College - however at my Christian University - Greek houses and social Greek organizations were banned. I was still in clubs and don’t feel I missed out socially at all.

    • @kai-hs3db
      @kai-hs3db 3 года назад

      is watching anime a sin

    • @TheElleFactorAgain
      @TheElleFactorAgain 3 года назад

      Thanks so much!!!

  • @ByTheBookMinistries
    @ByTheBookMinistries 3 года назад +454

    The biggest reason why I never joined a fraternity, aside from the immoral activities, was the secrecy of the process and the history of the organizations. It would have definitely hindered my witness! Much love brother Allen!

    • @aminahdean7468
      @aminahdean7468 3 года назад +37

      Me too. Also the woman were not at like sisters to each other

    • @ml.vaughn2122
      @ml.vaughn2122 3 года назад +8

      I joined one when I was in my BA and it was for honor students and it only recognized honors. There was no stepping or none of them at stuff fraternity’s do.

    • @jesusmybeloved8494
      @jesusmybeloved8494 3 года назад +1

      my rapture dream ruclips.net/video/1ilrUBwgujU/видео.html

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад

      @@aminahdean7468 How did the women treat each other even though they were considered sisters 🤔❓

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад +2

      @@ml.vaughn2122 Did you have to take an ungodly pledge or oath that violated His law 🤔❓

  • @kmdunruly
    @kmdunruly 3 года назад +277

    Short Answer no
    Long Answer Noooooo

  • @aramm3905
    @aramm3905 3 года назад +94

    “Christ over culture”, hard

  • @CherissePlair
    @CherissePlair 6 месяцев назад +20

    Since he won't say it I will! Christians should NOT join these organizations. I denounced my membership to AKA and never looked back. He's not telling people what we actually did when we pledged and the rituals and oaths we took part in. This video is actually disappointing

  • @Sam-sx5dz
    @Sam-sx5dz 3 года назад +157

    My brother made a statement about how he didn’t believe parts of the Bible. Please pray for him to he can find Jesus.

    • @GodsPrincess323
      @GodsPrincess323 3 года назад +5

      So have my dad 🙏🏽 praying Sam

    • @Sam-sx5dz
      @Sam-sx5dz 3 года назад +4

      Look Up thank you so much

    • @thomasregan4477
      @thomasregan4477 3 года назад +5

      Praying for him, so many people believe this lie.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад +2

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:18-20?

    • @me-pz5yi
      @me-pz5yi 3 года назад +1

      Same in my fam. Prayers 🙏🏽.

  • @sujalgurung77
    @sujalgurung77 3 года назад +133

    God has a purpose for your pain, a reason for your struggle, and a reward for your faithfulness. Trust Him and don’t give up. May God Bless You Brothers and Sisters 🙏😊

    • @lionoffireministries
      @lionoffireministries 3 года назад +6

      I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
      But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏
      I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also.
      *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌
      *All things are possible with God*

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад

      @@lionoffireministries 🗣📢 HALLELUJAH 🤲🏽❗

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:18-20?

  • @carolyngreene9060
    @carolyngreene9060 3 года назад +301

    When I pledging, there was a moment that one of the sisters said something to the effect that I should be grateful for the sacrifices that the founding sisters made so that I would have the privileges they were affording me. I laughed and responded, "Ain't none of them sistah's named Jesus, and none of them died on the cross and conquered death and sin for me, so I don't need these and I surely don't need them. I know who I am and whose I am". I never looked back. I don't think greek societies are for christians, they make covenants to spirits, that's the big secret. they never tell you that until the very end. God tells us we are not to put any other gods above him. Simple and plain.

    • @bellakim9169
      @bellakim9169 3 года назад +3

      Right!!!

    • @dannieden4596
      @dannieden4596 2 года назад +2

      Amen!

    • @tamekabarnes8538
      @tamekabarnes8538 2 года назад +12

      So because of the Jim Crow laws at the time blacks were segregate so many women came to gather to build a bond, sisterhood and to educate the community so I’m sure that’s why she said that. It’s more a historical thing than anything else and has nothing to do with your beliefs in God. Trust me I know who I am too and god is the center of my life but I also believe I have the opportunity to impact the world and that’s the main mission of these organizations . Now I know some may do dark things or against the laws of the organization but mine doesn’t

    • @itsintheword2818
      @itsintheword2818 2 года назад +19

      You are absolutely right, that's the part that people are ignoring is the problem that still make it with demon spirits the songs, hell weak, crossing the burning sands, and dancing stepping the secular songs. The tattoos and the branding are alarming sign in itself but people completely ignore it because they want the lust of the flesh, the less of the eyes, and the pride of life

    • @100gds2
      @100gds2 2 года назад +22

      @@tamekabarnes8538 All American historical facts aside, the bible specifically speaks against these organizations and their evil practices. You're not living for God if you're part of these groups, it's biblically impossible. Get to know God by reading His word and you'll know better.

  • @spiritualchannel466
    @spiritualchannel466 3 года назад +96

    Jesus is Lord. he has overcome Death, He has Saved Us From Eternal Punishment. Give Him Glory

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:19-20?

  • @adarrinsmith7491
    @adarrinsmith7491 2 года назад +27

    I WAS A Q AND THE CLOSER I GOT AND THE MORE I SURRENDERED TO YAHUA ELOHIM HE TOLD ME TO TAKE EVERYTHING I HAD FROM MY FRAT AND THROW IT IN THE TRASH NEVER TO WEAR OR PROFESS AGAIN AND I DID IT WAS ALREADY ON MY HEART!

  • @spiritualchannel466
    @spiritualchannel466 3 года назад +227

    Jesus is Coming Soon. We must have our Oil Ready.

    • @pamalafloyd2704
      @pamalafloyd2704 3 года назад +4

      Amen🙏

    • @leereneecee
      @leereneecee 3 года назад +12

      Amen!!! You can’t be a servant of two masters.

    • @misskxtty6342
      @misskxtty6342 3 года назад +2

      Amen God bless you and your family

    • @spiritualchannel466
      @spiritualchannel466 3 года назад +3

      @@pamalafloyd2704 Amen 😔😔🐩🕊

    • @lionoffireministries
      @lionoffireministries 3 года назад +9

      I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
      But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏
      I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also.
      *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌
      *All things are possible with God*

  • @EricaNWilliams
    @EricaNWilliams 3 года назад +178

    No, they shouldn't! I spiritually denounced DST in 2013 and went through the official withdrawal process in 2018. Praying current members and those considering joining receive God’s Truth, so that they, too, may be delivered from the lies and bondage these secret societies bring. 🙏🏽

    • @dannieden4596
      @dannieden4596 2 года назад +4

      Amen! Glad you came out of that!

    • @pharvey2473
      @pharvey2473 2 года назад +7

      Plz pray in agreement for my daughter to renounce 🙏🔥

    • @EricaNWilliams
      @EricaNWilliams 2 года назад +2

      @@pharvey2473 Praying! 🙏🏽💗

    • @EricaNWilliams
      @EricaNWilliams 2 года назад +2

      @@dannieden4596 All glory to God! 🙌🏽💗

    • @lashondarochell7584
      @lashondarochell7584 2 года назад +3

      Thank God you receive revelation 🙏❤️

  • @raynishanicole
    @raynishanicole 3 года назад +320

    I denounced my co-ed business fraternity this year after I accepted Jesus back into my life & felt convicted! The origin of these organizations are not biblical and the process to get in is quite disturbing / demonic for many. Thanks for answering this question and sharing your experience!

    • @e.s.7520
      @e.s.7520 3 года назад +20

      To God be the glory for your obedience; to do what the Lord placed on your heart.🙏 ❤
      I'd had the same revelation regarding the need to denounce. God bless❤

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад +1

      🗣📢 HALLELUJAH❗God a.k.a. Elohim bless you 🤲🏽 sister in His Son Jesus' a.k.a. Immanuel's name.

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад +1

      @@e.s.7520 God a.k.a. Elohim bless 🤲🏽 you.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:18-20?

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +3

      I want to be back and feel cut off from God...have gone too far Nd feel FOOLISH and sick. . PLEASE PRAY. I NEED JESUS ONLY saved People to pray for....this is sick sad Miserable...JESUS IS ANGRY WITH ME.... please I have nothing else and need INNNER healin and war for what I did FOOLISH.
      GOD STOP..ME....this detrimental to my whole being....sad.and disgusting...just wrong wrong

  • @befree7517
    @befree7517 2 года назад +13

    Ummmm as a leader and follower/believer of Christ you don’t have a problem with sororities and fraternities? Why???? Fraternities and Sororities are not of God......you said you resigned from your position as president.... but did you come out from amongst your fraternity.....did you denounce/renounce from them?

  • @t.tenille4194
    @t.tenille4194 3 года назад +281

    Great video; however I am against Fraternities/sororities/ secret societies (you mentioned not being against them). I was once a member of Delta Sigma Theta. I renounced almost 2 years ago after being a member for 20 years.. I struggled with renouncing for years. One day, I looked at the ritual book and the scales were finally removed from my eyes. I realized I was worshipping other gods and it is a false sense of sisterhood, among other things. I repented and now I'm no longer listed on their roster. I thank the Lord for deliverance and for answering His call .

    • @ThriveSojourner
      @ThriveSojourner 3 года назад +18

      T. Tenille praise God & love this response! I denounced dst a few years ago too

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 3 года назад +19

      You did the right thing.

    • @thebrowbeateratl1809
      @thebrowbeateratl1809 2 года назад +19

      That’s amazing! Growing up I always wanted to be apart of DST and even began the process but then was very much convicted. Even them saying all of my love my peace and happiness I’m gonna give it to Delta never sat right with me… I give those things to my God alone. You did the right thing!

    • @dannieden4596
      @dannieden4596 2 года назад +19

      I've seen a lot of denouncement videos on RUclips in the past couple years. The ministry Out From Among Them has several forums about it. I'm so glad that so many of you have come out of these organizations. Praise God!

    • @t.tenille4194
      @t.tenille4194 2 года назад +11

      @@dannieden4596 Out from Among Them Ministries provided support and encouragement. I had no idea what to do or where to start. I thank the Lord for this ministry 🙂.

  • @reachingandgathering
    @reachingandgathering 3 года назад +114

    Allen I absolutely love the fact that you don’t steer from difficult topics! I took a lot of heat for teaching about this but I wouldn’t take one word of it back. So so so many preachers coward down and water the word down when it relates to this. They try to justify everything you mentioned. The Word says what it says! The fact that so many young people are encouraged by Christians- pastors included to participate in BGLO, knowing all that it entails, is just mind boggling to me. Again- THANK YOU!

    • @mysticrene
      @mysticrene 3 года назад

      I agree

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 3 года назад

      Amen❗Fraternities and sororities are secretly 🤫 controlled by Satan 👹✅

    • @Mrstookie101
      @Mrstookie101 3 года назад +7

      Sis , some of these preachers ride the fence because of their membership in these organizations.

    • @dannieden4596
      @dannieden4596 2 года назад +1

      @Marie Horn, Do you have a video on RUclips of your teaching? I would love to watch it.

    • @reachingandgathering
      @reachingandgathering 2 года назад

      @@dannieden4596 Hi Danielle, I teach mainly on my Facebook page Marie Horn or Gathering Outreach Mission.

  • @aschbellouis496
    @aschbellouis496 3 года назад +177

    This channel is the most wonderful thing a have encountered.

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  3 года назад +26

      Man, what a blessing you are. Thank you for saying that. You are very kind and encouraging. Thank you,

    • @kaylabarjon8732
      @kaylabarjon8732 3 года назад +1

      amen!!

    • @kai-hs3db
      @kai-hs3db 3 года назад

      indeed

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:18-20?

    • @ms.blessed2784
      @ms.blessed2784 3 года назад

      Check out the RoC network on utube. Allen and the young man running that network will help you grow and understand more and more. Im so thankful for these young men of God. They really make it clear what a choosen teach looks like.

  • @amber0290
    @amber0290 3 года назад +90

    Yes! My mom thought I was “doing too much” when I explained that this is why I didn’t want to pledge during my freshman year. Thank you for sharing this because I see so many proclaiming Christians saying there’s nothing wrong with being in Greek life.

    • @crazyleaf257
      @crazyleaf257 Год назад +3

      So ironic because the Greeks in Bible times were against God

  • @sharnetteraye-brown9523
    @sharnetteraye-brown9523 3 года назад +135

    Thank you for this video brother Parr. I actually denounced and renounced my membership from Delta Sigma Theta a couple of years ago, after the Holy Spirit literally told me to do so. I then began to study the origins of secret societies (not just the BGLOs), and I was so grieved that I had ever taken the oath. In this last hour, we as Christians must decide who we are truly serving....man or God. It could be a truly difficult decision for many to leave these organizations, especially if they've been members for many years. But for me, it came down to who do I love more...and who do I seek to please - God or man? I'm sincerely praying for all those (even in my own family and circle of friends) to trust God, and do what He leads them to do.

    • @leereneecee
      @leereneecee 3 года назад +17

      Amen!!!! If people really knew what was going on in the spiritual realm they would 🏃‍♀️. God and Satan and are both seeking souls. You can’t be a servant of two masters.

    • @sharnetteraye-brown9523
      @sharnetteraye-brown9523 3 года назад +1

      @@leereneecee Amen.

    • @ThriveSojourner
      @ThriveSojourner 3 года назад +6

      Praise God!! I learned about all that too & denounces dst too

    • @christianhenry4173
      @christianhenry4173 3 года назад +5

      I'm thankful to read your testimony. I was almost a full member of kappa kappa but I got out because it was too expensive and I also beleived fraternities were cults.

    • @sharnetteraye-brown9523
      @sharnetteraye-brown9523 3 года назад +1

      @@ThriveSojourner Amen!

  • @andrewbeckford3160
    @andrewbeckford3160 3 года назад +15

    This guy did not denounce the freemason which is what fraternities and sororities are. He sat on the fence without a clear-cut position and so I think I know exactly which side of the fence he sits on. This is why I would rather read my bible and allow the Holy Spirit to guide me instead of listening to any other!!

  • @gordo191
    @gordo191 3 года назад +52

    HAPPY SABBATH EVERONE !!

  • @QueenEstherSpeaks
    @QueenEstherSpeaks 3 года назад +68

    Renounced sorority, sigma gamma rho...best decision of repentance!

    • @precioush.5415
      @precioush.5415 3 года назад +6

      Praise the Lord! I denounced the same organization and have been thriving every since.

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +1

      @@precioush.5415 pray for me.... Sincerely been in Immorality and disgusting...left CHRIST and as alone female I HAVE GOT TO BE WHOLE AND BACK this was and is horrendous....not well and miserable...God delivered me. I really meant God ...done stupid have no life. .. PLEASE SIS.

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 3 года назад +4

      You did the right thing.

    • @dannieden4596
      @dannieden4596 2 года назад

      I watched your videos regarding this with 2 other ladies. It was really good.

    • @TimothyC.84
      @TimothyC.84 2 года назад

      11:00 The multiple gods are the false pagan gods which people have pledges themselves to.

  • @Mori_Shands
    @Mori_Shands 3 года назад +55

    I’ve considered it but I was on the fence because some people make frats/sor. their life and only Christ is my life!

    • @glitteringfollies
      @glitteringfollies 3 года назад +7

      The fence is on fire so we have to choose wisely and choose Christ

    • @Mori_Shands
      @Mori_Shands 3 года назад +3

      Joseph Earley Facts! Brother Allen’s video put things into perspective for me.

    • @tracielittle
      @tracielittle 3 года назад +1

      May God Bless You Mori, my sentiments exactly 🙏🏾☺️🙏🏾☺️🙏🏾

    • @NewCreationInChrist896
      @NewCreationInChrist896 3 года назад +1

      Amen

  • @APTTMHYforever
    @APTTMHYforever 3 года назад +210

    And the weird part is that a LOT of Black churches (baptist and ame mostly) have a special Greek Sunday like once a year🤦🏽‍♀️... the idea of doing your “call” and hand symbols and giving shoutouts to each NPHC organization in the sanctuary never set well with me

    • @msvoice1
      @msvoice1 3 года назад +10

      Miss954 Sounds like an AME church. They put it under the guise of “T-Shirt” Sunday. Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️- Inactive Zeta 💙

    • @dougatou1
      @dougatou1 3 года назад +2

      What? Interesting .

    • @PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves
      @PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves 3 года назад +1

      Wow what the...

    • @MsBFam
      @MsBFam 3 года назад

      So true!

    • @tprophesys5373
      @tprophesys5373 3 года назад +3

      Very very sad scene. God is not pleased @Miss954 initial comment

  • @lindsay-darshaunmurray6231
    @lindsay-darshaunmurray6231 3 года назад +51

    I'm over here crying listening to this. I'm in my classroom having a hard time dealing with this issue. I have already pledged a Grad chapter of Divine 9. Like I'm still in my neo year and the conflict in my spirit has been bugging me like crazy. I have been saved for some years now but just recently really been getting into my word. Because of my choice to go with the frat and I am now fighting to keep my marriage and my mental health. Trying to detach me from this is hard. But your video helped. Thank you.

    • @just_shaeee
      @just_shaeee Год назад +4

      Did you renounce/ denounce? If you need support, I’m here. I denounced / renounced my D9 org almost three weeks ago.

    • @RachelNdumia1
      @RachelNdumia1 Год назад +7

      Renounce. It's not too late. And I think you need deliverance coz suffering mentally is not from God.

    • @valencian6836
      @valencian6836 Год назад +4

      If it is causing disturbance within you, it is ok to let it go. Nothing is worth that. May the Lord bless you with the clarity you need to decide what is best for you and you rrelationship with Him; the stregnth in Him to do it; and the joy in your soul to not carry any regrets.

  • @Tactical_Shenanigans
    @Tactical_Shenanigans 3 года назад +33

    Same as Masonry, I was a mason before being saved. I left and demited the organization due to the oaths.

  • @lionoffireministries
    @lionoffireministries 3 года назад +50

    I wouldn't align myself with any of those groups.
    There can be so much that doesn't represent Christ.
    I'd move as far away as possible

  • @765567765
    @765567765 3 года назад +14

    he didnt say he denounce the organization and also he said he is not against the organization. Also he didnt say no you shouldn't join. He also said my fraternity brothers. He is trying to say no without saying no, while ultimately saying yes you can join at the same time. As Christians we shouldn't be trying to play the middle ground. This brother needs to totally denounce the organization. You can't serve two masters...

    • @Proverbs-vw2sc
      @Proverbs-vw2sc 3 года назад +1

      Amen!!

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +1

      @@Proverbs-vw2sc I have listen to him before and he sound like one of those ministers who got their calling and salvation from divinity school NOT CHRIST. I have a lot to account.for. going back to church...sad me..

    • @MsBeeBee1031
      @MsBeeBee1031 9 месяцев назад +1

      I peeped that too!!!! He shared good points but still straddling the fence...

    • @ahb3296
      @ahb3296 4 дня назад

      @@MsBeeBee1031 agree. We all are charged to use our platforms in calling these things out. Being lukewarm is not an option when peoples very souls are on the line.

  • @Mzfashionnn
    @Mzfashionnn 3 года назад +50

    I was super close to joining a BGLO about 2 or so years ago. Me and all my friends were so excited to be going through it together. But I just genuinely could not shake the conviction that I had over it. And believe me, I tried because my flesh literally wanted this so bad! But I was doing some research regarding the rituals and poems that need to be recited and all the hazing (which every GLO claims they don’t do, but they do) and the Holy Spirit would not let me go through with it, so I dropped. Like you, I caught slack for it but like you said, it’s Christ over Culture. I have no doubt that these orgs do great things, but Christ is most definitely not at the center. Thank you for sharing this!

    • @heather7119
      @heather7119 3 года назад +7

      Imani u are saying my story! Except I wasn’t as self aware as you were but God is so good. I was THAT close to pledging delta. It just seemed like a cool thing to do and the delta girls were my friends. But I didn’t like the hazing I was hearing about. I didn’t like the secrecy aspect either. It seemed like God kept throwing issues at me like financial issues and doing better in school that overwhelmed me and forced me to put pledging on the back burner. Years later I’m so happy God had mercy to stop me from pledging. I’m know so much more about Christ now. Stay blessed girlfriend:)

    • @Mzfashionnn
      @Mzfashionnn 3 года назад +2

      @@heather7119 Yes! The secrecy was a huge thing for me as well. If there is truly nothing to hide about intake, why the secrecy? Praise Him for giving us eyes to see and ears to hear. God Bless you too, sis (:

  • @tfairgood2438
    @tfairgood2438 3 года назад +27

    I pleaged grad chapter Delta Sigma Theta in 2006 and denounced January 2019 for the very reason God told me I had to choose. As I grew in my relationship with Christ he started revealing the strongholds in my life that I had to let go of. It wasn't an easy decision but I did make a conscious decision to remove my membership as a witness and testament to whom I really served the lord God all mightly.
    I contacted my sands and a few sorors and explained what I learned as I grew in my relationship with Christ. I informed them that I would no longer be their sands or soror but now their sister in Christ. Some recieved my stance and some rejected me. However I hold no judgement. It took me nearly 12 years to discover the deep dark truth.
    I was warn by my spritual father but I had so many greek chrisitan connections that I listened to them instead of God's word that clearly states why we should not be apart of secret societies. It's total deception and the way statan keeps us in bondage to the world.
    For all of those who have denounced and have made a decision to boldly proclaim your love for the lord by praying for those who have yet to come out I'd be more than happy to start a Christian group called Christ Cusaders where we come together and pray against this sprit of deception.
    We are not to judge but to walk in love. Trust me the power of prayer will remove the blinders off our bother and sisters eyes. Whose down??????
    Love yall peace and Blessings
    Evangelist Terrece

  • @daye.8022
    @daye.8022 3 года назад +31

    Why would the God of Israel, want you to pledge under Greek or any other God or nation?? That goes against the Bible.

  • @BabePennington20
    @BabePennington20 3 года назад +40

    This is literally the video I’ve been needing! My mom is an AKA and several other relatives who are Greek as well, and this has truly been something that I’ve been torn over as a Christian. I also have wondered a lot about Eastern Stars and masons sense my grandma and several other relatives are/have been a part of that as well.

    • @Proverbs-vw2sc
      @Proverbs-vw2sc 3 года назад +13

      Research and look into the true origins of those organizations....Be Blessed!

    • @glitteringfollies
      @glitteringfollies 3 года назад +16

      Search for a message called Pursuit of Holiness, Exposing Idolatry in the Church by Fred Price Jr.

    • @andrewjones2133
      @andrewjones2133 3 года назад +3

      Follow your heart ❤️ JESUS Christ will always love you

    • @chikanyanwu
      @chikanyanwu 3 года назад +17

      Andrew Jones “The heart is deceitful above all things And it is extremely sick; Who can understand it fully and know its secret motives?”
      ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭AMP‬‬

    • @abidingeast
      @abidingeast 3 года назад +18

      There is a reason you are torn. Be grateful that you feel this way because God is warning you. The rituals you go through are full of idolatry. I denounced from AKA 2 years ago and have no regrets. It's not of God. You can look up denouncement videos here on YT and even google the rituals for yourself.

  • @ChildofLight777
    @ChildofLight777 3 года назад +6

    You did not denounce joining them yet clearly they are open to acknowledging other gods. Your clever and may have learned to deceive too well, very smooth words. I cannot judge but this reminds me to not put trust in mortal men.

  • @danielrecommends
    @danielrecommends 3 года назад +37

    Man brother Parr I wish you had put this video out a year or more ago. My oldest son pledged to be a part of a fraternity and because I didn't know that much, my wife and I didn't object. However, I can see the negative effects its having on him and his faith. My prayer is that God will lead him in a similar way that He led you to get out of it.

    • @ladyloveishere1838
      @ladyloveishere1838 3 года назад

      God gave me revelation about Greeks & sorority pledging before I was saved. I was always dreaming to go to college, but that type of organizations never sat right with me. When I became saved the revelation from God got attention again & deeper, so I went to studying. I now tell my going to college children that those organizations are not of God & explain why. Also how the college campus will have many religions, groups, etc. coming at you to join something just like the world. It is what you learned in Christ to teach you the ways

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 3 года назад

      Is he out of it? It doesn't sound like it.

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 2 года назад

      He's not out of it.

    • @danielrecommends
      @danielrecommends 2 года назад +9

      Thankfully, due to some issues with being able to pay dues my son is now out of the fraternity. Being in that group led him into some stuff that's not good. However, God is at work and my prayer is full repentance and a return to the truth of God's Word.

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 2 года назад +1

      @@danielrecommends I'm so happy to hear this. You mentioned that Parr was out of his fraternity but he is actually still a member. You can view several RUclips videos of Christians who came out of their greek orgs...search "denounce fraternity &/or denounce sorority." You are a good father.

  • @alady878
    @alady878 3 года назад +21

    Tell the truth and expose the enemy!!

  • @JaKyra365
    @JaKyra365 3 года назад +21

    Thank you for giving me a biblical perspective about these things, because I've tried asking frat brothers and sorors and they told me it was a secret. I'm a senior in high school, and at first, I wanted to join a sorority my sophomore year of college. Now, I can get that idea out of my head.

    • @ThriveSojourner
      @ThriveSojourner 3 года назад +12

      Please do not do it. I pledged a sorority & found out a lot that I wish I'd known before & I had to go through the painful process of letting it go.. no matter how good it appears, or how people praise these orgs... it is not of God. Do not be deceived.

  • @lionoffireministries
    @lionoffireministries 3 года назад +42

    I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
    But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏
    I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also.
    *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌
    *All things are possible with God*

  • @kristinamedinaagee3452
    @kristinamedinaagee3452 3 года назад +11

    I pledged 10 years ago to a Latina based sorority and was saved 5 years ago. I realized this in 2016 stumbling across an ex AKA RUclips video. Really opened my eyes! We had similar oaths that sounded evil too, letters are of course deemed sacred, and club socials were a way to make money so we’re required to go. I lived that lifestyle and thought I was ok with God! Considered self termination when I realized all this once I got saved but I already graduated and don’t actively participate or rep paraphernalia. I did make some good friendships who will stay with me regardless if I leave. I love that you give ways for viewers to realize it themselves through scripture rather than saying yes or no. You are so gifted in your teaching and instruction dear brother! Your videos are so humbling and restrictive of showing biases so the focus is scripture. I pray I do the same with the little I try to share on IG & RUclips. God bless you and your ministry.

    • @GiovanaSimmer
      @GiovanaSimmer Год назад +1

      My daughter is currently being groomed by Chi Upsilon Sigma and, while I haven't told her anything, I don't feel comfortable about it. Unfortunately she doesn't really live by Christian standards at the moment (despite being raised in them) and I fear that my trying to dissuade her might have an opposite effect (or no effect at all, at best).
      When young, I did many things I ended up having to denounce later on, but we're living in very different times now! Things have officially flown off the handle and God knows if she'll ever have a chance to get rid of that yoke once she realizes what she got herself into... 🤷‍♀

  • @joyjones2220
    @joyjones2220 2 года назад +13

    As a believer, I feel it's pointless and fleshly. It causes us to rely on people to gain access, to get ahead or whatever benefits may come along with joining these organizations. The safest place is to join and fellowship with sisters and brothers in Christ whose purpose is to encourage one another while advancing the Kingdom

  • @Lufhtiaf
    @Lufhtiaf 3 года назад +16

    Thank you for your transparency and candidly addressing this. I pledged in '96 and the same questions and convictions stirred up in me. I have not been active in almost 20 years. This video is going to help someone make an informed biblical decision.

  • @howardwoodard7775
    @howardwoodard7775 2 года назад +9

    I also pledged a Fraternity in College. This information doesn’t point out the importance of Jesus’s teachings. The key is, you are pledging to and part of an organization that worships a false Greek god.
    Therefore, your information can be a stumbling block because there is nothing that should be considered for a true blood washed believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    The Bible also says don’t even give the appearance of evil.
    You knock women Pastors, yet you are compromising Gods word by endorsing an Organization and parts of the pledge process while attempting to throw out the other.
    How can two walk together unless they agree?”
    Equally troubling is the emblem of the fraternity, the Sphinx of Gaza found in Egypt. Sphinxes were idol gods worshipped by Egyptians. They had the body of a lion
    and the head of a pharaoh. Pharaohs were considered deities to their people, and were immortalized by these sphinxes.
    How does God feel about sphinxes and other Egyptian idols?
    Well, Ezekiel 20:7 says “Get rid of the vile images you have set your eyes on, AND DO NOT DEFILE YOURSELVES WITH THE IDOLS OF EGYPT, I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD.” God views those idols as “defiling”, yet this is the emblem representing the fraternity and its members.
    He said to have no other gods before him. There is no compromising in that because God is a jealous God. He said to love thy God, with ALL thy heart soul, and mind. And then he said to love your neighbor, not a false Greek god as yourself.
    Consequently, if you have not renounced it, you are still a part of it. Period.
    God is not co-sharing his GLORY with a false Greek god.

  • @AyoBaby
    @AyoBaby 2 года назад +4

    I have a problem with you clearly stating the sinful aspects of the Greek organizations, yet still leaving the door open for others to join "if thier motive are right". Seems you are still part of your fraternity since you still call them your brothers and you haven't renounced. You mention all the sex, drugs, etc that you witnessed, but still didn't give a definite NO to pledging. Very dangerous teaching. Very dangerous.

  • @ashleyh.2178
    @ashleyh.2178 3 года назад +15

    Thank you Allen for sharing this. I am so glad you are addressing this. Everything you said is on-point. Glory be to God that he is speaking through you so well. I personally witnessed this as well. At my liberal university, my freshman year I was peer pressured by my new friends and tempted for all the reasons you mentioned (identity, pride, status symbol, etc and signed up. Upon going through recruitment, I felt very convicted but still went through with it. Upon getting selected to join a sorority, it was through the initiation where I realized how satanic it was. I quit and actually later that year, joined a Christian org on campus, gained various internship experiences, joined other organizations and held leadership positions, completed over 500 hours of community service, and etc. I thank God and give him Glory for all he has done. To any college student reading this, I pray that God gives you the wisdom, discernment, and trust in Him because IMO you can do it all through Him because He will give you the strength!

  • @TheQueensClosetSerritha
    @TheQueensClosetSerritha 3 года назад +48

    Didn't think you'd tackle this! Let's go!

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  3 года назад +21

      I wasn't really sure if people were interested in this topic to be quite honest. I've been asked about it several times.

    • @arnittajohnson988
      @arnittajohnson988 3 года назад +10

      THE BEAT by Allen Parr Did you renounce the organization? Do you still wear your Greek Letters?

    • @Kelly_Silverman
      @Kelly_Silverman 3 года назад +2

      @@arnittajohnson988 Good question!

    • @aminahdean7468
      @aminahdean7468 3 года назад +2

      @@arnittajohnson988 He answered the same question earlier, he did not denounce but has not been active for 25 years

    • @arnittajohnson988
      @arnittajohnson988 3 года назад +1

      Aminah Dean thank you.

  • @GlowandGrow_
    @GlowandGrow_ 3 года назад +10

    I came across Endia Bass’ video on RUclips which helped me with the understanding of the roots of Freemasonry for Greek organizations. I was never apart of either. However, my grandfather was a Freemason. I represented and denounced his oaths and involvement on behalf of myself and my family. I understand everyone doesn’t think it’s that “deep”. However, it was for me especially seeing some patterns in my family.

  • @sowingbird8845
    @sowingbird8845 3 года назад +16

    I can say straight up as a christian and follower of Christ our Savior do not join a fraternity. It goes against God the Father.

    • @cutefacelex
      @cutefacelex 3 года назад

      How

    • @sowingbird8845
      @sowingbird8845 3 года назад +1

      @@cutefacelex many books have linked them to Freemasonry. The Father says anything I say shout it from the roof tops. He does nothing in secret. There is no secret group that He has. It is worth praying for truth and reading scripture. The Holy Spirit is the Greatest teacher ever. Also the founders of these secret groups should be looked at. Their beliefs and who and what they believe. It will really open your eyes.😊

    • @cutefacelex
      @cutefacelex 3 года назад

      @@sowingbird8845 Alpha Kappa Alpha (AKA) the sorority was started in 1908 at Howard University how was that secret? Now I don’t know much about fraternities bc I’m not a boy. I’m not trying to be rude I’m actually curious.

    • @sowingbird8845
      @sowingbird8845 3 года назад

      @@cutefacelex I did not take you as rude and I pray I did not sound that way to you if so I am truly sorry. If you pray and ask the Holy Spirit to show the truth He will. It has been years since my study and I need to refresh. I know from the practices and the secrecy of them it is wrong.

  • @ErA-el1je
    @ErA-el1je 3 года назад +8

    @The BEAT by Allen Parr...Brother Allen...why do you say you're not against these organizations? All you've said is on point to never join if we're a follower of God!! You should denounce your pledge!

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +1

      Compromiser too

  • @rosestephen6789
    @rosestephen6789 Год назад +5

    It's even worst when your pastors & ministers are apart of these divine 9... looking for a new church home 😢

  • @thomasregan4477
    @thomasregan4477 3 года назад +8

    Christ over culture. I always love hearing you preach. Such a blessing!

  • @BelieverFirstwithSharonJoy
    @BelieverFirstwithSharonJoy 3 года назад +92

    Same convictions... I innocently pledged delta and was taken aback by the ritualistic aspects of the process... later got deeper into my relationship with God and His Word and denounced in prayer. Unfortunately the orgs are clear idols that desire worship. When God asked me to choose I chose Him despite losing out on popularity etc etc... are we living for the approval of God or man?

    • @Proverbs-vw2sc
      @Proverbs-vw2sc 3 года назад +5

      Thank you for posting this. I joined a group that was not in D9 and later dissipated, but I still see some of the members from time to time. I never thought I had to denounce since the group no longer exist. But I will do as you and denounce in prayer as well. I don't want anything like this to keep me away from the savior. Be Blessed!

    • @Yadine369
      @Yadine369 3 года назад +3

      @Sharing Joy, all praises goes to YHWH 🤗🤗🤗 I denounced dst spiritually 5 years ago & legally 2 years ago. The Holy Spirit showed me what He showed you about the rituals. ruclips.net/video/j3RNkC3Jv_4/видео.html You mentioned that you did a denouncement prayer, if your interested there's a ministry that Im part of that help folks get out legally. For more information please visit www.outfromamongthem.com

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

      Which people are preaching the good news of the kingdom around the world like Jesus Mathew 4:23,24:14,28:18-20?

    • @bellakim9169
      @bellakim9169 3 года назад

      Right!!!

    • @kaniving
      @kaniving 2 года назад

      Why do you say that the orgs are clear idols that desire worship?

  • @nitsujneal
    @nitsujneal 3 года назад +7

    When it comes to fraternities and sororities, you aren’t just pledging your allegiance to an organization. You’re pledging your allegiance to the Devil.
    God tells us to not to love the world. Not to be worldly...This world has been given over to the hands of the wicked. When we try to fit in and be friends with the world, we make ourselves enemies of God. We’re called to be set apart.
    James 4:4 📖
    "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."

    • @daveo2431
      @daveo2431 3 года назад

      Thank you. This is my principle here. Not being like the world, because it's influenced by Satan anyways. I've been quickened and devoted to God by His grace and I truly value God's principle of separation to Him. I've made it my commitment to reject worldliness and live without compromise for Christ always. That's not easy but He is helping me to do it, and it's saving me from a lot of bondage and traps. Praise God.

  • @glitteringfollies
    @glitteringfollies 3 года назад +8

    Demonic doctrines hide behind the thin veneer of good works and "godly" rituals. End of the day, Allen Parr is still an Alpha that is married to a Delta. Walking away from a marriage does not grant you a divorce. Inactivity does not nullify your vow. As a teacher, your followers deserve full disclosure.

    • @Proverbs-vw2sc
      @Proverbs-vw2sc 3 года назад +1

      Amen!!!

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +2

      @@Proverbs-vw2sc can't DECEIVE everybody....

  • @lior777
    @lior777 3 года назад +23

    Would Jesus join one? Ask yourself

    • @jayfreeman5117
      @jayfreeman5117 3 года назад +1

      There is no answer to the question or at least not a clear one. I could see him joining one, but not partaking in events and activities such as pre-marital sexual, clubbing, and parties where drunkenness and the usage of drugs to attain a high will be promoted.

    • @lior777
      @lior777 3 года назад +4

      @@jayfreeman5117 If you're around people being sinful, you will be influenced at some point. 1 Corinthians 10:23 1

    • @leereneecee
      @leereneecee 3 года назад +15

      NO! He was about his Fathers business! What does light and darkness have in common. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Jesus didn’t join the Pharisees 😂

    • @lior777
      @lior777 3 года назад +2

      @@leereneecee Exactly my point

    • @meeketowah8714
      @meeketowah8714 3 года назад +2

      John 18:36
      My kingdom is no part of the world

  • @martinwaver3292
    @martinwaver3292 3 года назад +26

    Thank you so much Allen Parr for this video! 7 years ago, when I was in university, I was highly considering about joining either PHI Beta Sigma or kappa alpha Psi fraternity. By the grace of God and with my family not supporting the idea of me joining, I didn't join those fraternities. Those fraternities are dangerous and they can cause one to loss their soul and salvation. Secrecy is not good. God wants us to be pure in him and wants us to be a witness to a dying world. As Jesus said, we are the light of the World.
    God bless you Allen Parr! Happy Sabbath and have a good and blessed weekend !

    • @bellakim9169
      @bellakim9169 3 года назад

      Right!!!

    • @mckenziepickett188
      @mckenziepickett188 3 года назад +1

      If you're truly in Christ, there isn't such thing as losing your salvation or soul. The scriptures justify this point well.🤍

  • @sujalgurung77
    @sujalgurung77 3 года назад +39

    I was Addicted to Gaming and Was In So Many Problem, Didn’t Gave Time to God, Mom And Dad Divorce Then Mom Left. Was In Pain Hang Out With Friends That was bad and Learned Bad Stuff and Was A Sinner Didn’t Follow The Ten Commands until My Family Seek God and we found him and He Gave Me Hope And Joy In My Life. Now I am Reborn Christian I have Completely Changed From How Was I Before. God Is Still With Me Today And Forever. That’s The Reason Why Have I Started A Christian Channel.
    God Will Give You Hope In Your Life
    God Is Amazing
    May God Bless You 🙏😁
    God Is Powerful

    • @spiritualchannel466
      @spiritualchannel466 3 года назад +1

      I think i read this comment on other channel

    • @spiritualchannel466
      @spiritualchannel466 3 года назад

      I see you everywhere man! I have seen Your comment in Lion of Judah's video and in other videos too

    • @lionoffireministries
      @lionoffireministries 3 года назад +1

      I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
      But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏
      I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also.
      *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌
      *All things are possible with God*

  • @leecee9528
    @leecee9528 3 года назад +24

    I was a HBCU in Oklahoma in 91 and I was encouraged to join Sigma... I wasn't saved back then but I knew not too then. Glad I didn't

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад +1

      Jesus saved me yet went ASTRAY hard headed....I have to be whole and get back Sincerely. ..this is TERRIBLE... please pray for Tricia to be back and whole this Immorality and flesh blindness is WRONG....I am so stupid sometime Hurt me....I need Help and stop body healed in Jesus name

    • @leecee9528
      @leecee9528 3 года назад

      @@TriciaRP Psalms 118:8

  • @TheBeautii2009
    @TheBeautii2009 3 года назад +69

    I have been WAITING for this discussion.
    I denounced my org a few years ago because my spirit was so convicted. My whole process was HORRIBLE and there were so many times at which God told me to turn around but I pressed through. Ultimately, the origins of Greek orgs, the pledging process, the secret ceremonies, chants, the temptations, and the infamous poem invictus all point to joining being something not of God!
    Did you denounce ? I’m curious to know.
    Stay blessed

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  3 года назад +28

      I did not officially denounce but I haven't been active in 25 years.

    • @TheBeautii2009
      @TheBeautii2009 3 года назад +26

      THE BEAT by Allen Parr thank you for being transparent! Denouncing is tough but my spirit feels so much more free!
      God bless you!

    • @glitteringfollies
      @glitteringfollies 3 года назад +47

      @@thebeatagp Brother Allen, since you announced publically, you may need to close that circle to denounce and officially remove your name from the "roll".

    • @MrWood-qd6kr
      @MrWood-qd6kr 3 года назад +18

      Exactly, at best, fraternities are an example of blatant idolatry

    • @nettiej789
      @nettiej789 3 года назад +5

      TheBeautii2009 yeah I wanted to know more on people that are already in sororities cause I’m not active but I wear the gear sometimes. I just don’t want to be sinning against my Lord and savior

  • @elevatetogrow6710
    @elevatetogrow6710 3 года назад +5

    Excellent presentation about trying to mix worshipping God and being committed to a fraternity and sororities. It does not mix at all.

  • @PastorZministries
    @PastorZministries 3 года назад +6

    A Phi brother/Pastor Allen! Knew there was a reason I loved this guy! I agree there are non-Christian aspects of our dear fraternity. Therefore we must be sober minded and vigilant. I joined because of family legacy and the aims align with who I am: Manly deeds, scholarship, and love for all mankind. This is why the Holy Spirit is so important, He gives us discernment on matters such as this!

    • @jonb5683
      @jonb5683 3 года назад +2

      '06!

    • @MissHunterELA
      @MissHunterELA 3 года назад +3

      You cannot serve two masters!

    • @gedixon7
      @gedixon7 3 года назад

      '06

    • @NuSkwel
      @NuSkwel 3 года назад

      Exactly 🤙🏾 06

    • @ahb3296
      @ahb3296 4 дня назад

      Holy Spirit isn't telling you that as a Christian pastor you are in right standing with the Most High God as a member of a secret society. Are you saying Holy Spirit has affirmed your role in your fraternity as furthering the Kingdom of The Most High God?

  • @jondough7777777
    @jondough7777777 3 года назад +11

    If you pledge a fraternity, you will align yourself to a demonic entity. Period point blank.
    A lot of the rituals are symbolic blood sacrifices.
    These open the door for these entities to be active in your life.
    But the deception is real but people will fight you over they idols (them letters).

  • @monicacross384
    @monicacross384 Год назад +4

    Allen, I appreciate this video, but I think it should be made very clear that the origin of these fraternities and sororities is not of God. Make that clear. You said you are not against them, but you should be. I recently had to wrestle with the revelation that the Holy Spirit gave me about the sorority I pledged. It's like the scales fell off my eyes and I realized that I had to walk away....immediately. I felt the nudge a few years ago, but I "compromised" and only participated in community service activities. That was not enough....I have to totally detach because you can't repent for making a vow and still operate within it.

    • @sh-sr1xs
      @sh-sr1xs Год назад

      Amen

    • @teecee1567
      @teecee1567 Год назад

      @Monica Cross Monica, I am a Freemason and have been for over 20 years. I;m also a Roman Catholic and have been for well over 55 years! Trust me, there is nothing in Freemasonry that is incompatible with ANY faith. Don't believe the conspiracy theories.

  • @gurujimmy4536
    @gurujimmy4536 3 года назад +7

    This is something I have been struggling with ever since I joined. Thank you making this video.

    • @glitteringfollies
      @glitteringfollies 3 года назад

      Check out OutFromAmongThem Ministry for more information.

  • @tazberry4110
    @tazberry4110 3 года назад +4

    I thank jesus, that i found your channel. You have honestly opened my eyes to many evil that were around me. Please keep making more videos. As a younger Christian, it really gived some important messages.

  • @henrysimmons6767
    @henrysimmons6767 3 года назад +11

    I pledged when I was 20 and never thought about denouncing my letters. For me, I told myself I will never let it become an idol. In other words, I kept it in perspective because truth be told, there are many things that can become idols as well (money, children etc) So I refused to let it go above my beliefs as a Christian. Great topic of discussion.

    • @dougatou1
      @dougatou1 3 года назад

      How did you become a member of the organization?

    • @henrysimmons6767
      @henrysimmons6767 3 года назад +1

      @@dougatou1 How did I pledge? I am not sure exactly what you are asking but I pledged when I was in undergrad as a junior in school at the University of Florida. I am also a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Inc. Hopefully that answers the question.

    • @dougatou1
      @dougatou1 3 года назад

      How did you pledge?

    • @f58534
      @f58534 3 месяца назад

      Exactly... folks think otherwise is weird

  • @ty-the-christian-guy589
    @ty-the-christian-guy589 3 года назад +5

    Man, you get asked questions that I never even thought of. Thanks for the info, God bless you.

  • @tajmani.
    @tajmani. 3 года назад +6

    a resounding NO.

  • @glennpowell6412
    @glennpowell6412 2 года назад +2

    Great video, Pastor Parr. I pledged Alpha over 30 years ago. I too walked away after coming to the full knowledge of Christ. Fraternity life was totally contrary to my Christian walk. I applaud you for your boldness in teaching on this topic. Not many Pastors will touch this. God bless you.

  • @charmdones4424
    @charmdones4424 2 года назад +3

    Ok so you said your frat brothers…not your past brothers…so you still have not denounced??..you also said…you have “nothing”…against the the sora nor frat?!?!…are you kidding me?…not a frat nor sora can get into heaven without denouncing whichever grouping they are in..you can not serve 2 gods…it doesn’t matter that you replace the words…do you not understand the history of your fraternity?…do you understand what your crest means…the Greek symbols?!?…what is going on with believers these days…please go to Christ about this…you must denounce…even the rituals you guys do…bowing down…even for the sororities…you have almost 1 million subscribers…and you can be held accountable for making them stumble…please go to Christ about this…please🙌🏽

  • @Phan-Xu
    @Phan-Xu 2 года назад +3

    This man is still in the fraternity
    Which has nothing to do with
    God

  • @brittanyking358
    @brittanyking358 3 года назад +7

    Did you renounce your letters to break the oath? Or are you still a member?

  • @RadicallyRose
    @RadicallyRose 3 года назад +23

    This video is an eye-opener! Thank God I did not pledge into any of these organizations while in college.

  • @yknowwhatcrys4791
    @yknowwhatcrys4791 2 года назад +15

    I have struggled with this for YEARS! As I was undergoing so much in my life in 2012-2014, I felt like being associated with something ‘greater’ like the OES and greek life AKA would get me further than just being a ‘Christian’. This was going to be my way in for promotion, networking and doing well in life. The problem is, none of what I said just then or how I thought back then did ANYTHING to advance the Kingdom of the God. It was 100% self-serving and I admit that. Now I see I didn’t need that organization to advance in the workplace or life. Jesus said He knows the plans for me. I didn’t need this organization to serve in the community or to network. I could do that on my own or within the church or another organization/platform. Al that to say, guard your heart and listen to what is being placed on it! If these organizations exalt and love the one, true God JESUS, check the fruit! It doesn’t, from the words spoken, rituals participated in and they way those outside the organization are treated, how is that of Jesus? We have Pastors, civic and world leaders involved in these organizations and they promote it because they don’t know the real root of what it is or choose not to acknowledge it for what it really is. At the lowest level, yes it may look like and really be about oneness and brother/sisterhood. As you progress though and advance in position, at the top it is Satanic/occult. Make no mistake about it. The pledges are doctrine and propaganda used to change your Godly-paradigm. He read part of it on this video. How could any Christian hearing that, reading that or state that not feel convicted? The people overlooking feeling is because they want to. They need to really ask themselves they questions he put in this video because I guarantee it’s not for any reason that God can’t do outside of that organization. It is, in its most basic answer self-serving. It’s the esteem and praise that comes with being associated with that organization. All the regalia worn, the colors and fanfare. I just praise Jesus for the conviction, protection, and safety given. Seek Him out if you’re in that and pray for forgiveness. Remove yourself from it all together. Y’all stay safe and blessed because there’s a war out here for our souls!

    • @VSmartRx
      @VSmartRx Год назад +3

      Amen. Imagine being married to a Frat member and you after 25 years of marriage you are blessed to learn the root of these secret societies . I pray for the scales to fall off my husband's eyes. There only one Alpha and Omega.

    • @KeithEasley-vc1mb
      @KeithEasley-vc1mb Год назад

      OES is apart if the Bible my sister.

  • @stephaniescott9066
    @stephaniescott9066 3 года назад +13

    This is such a gray area issue because even if a person goes in to a frat or sorority, they may have the idea that they are pledging for the networking or for the sense of brotherhood or sisterhood but once you take the "oath" to adhere to the rules and regulations of the organization, you almost become bound by it. It starts to become part of the oath to participate in the activities even if you know it's not inline with Christian values. I wouldn't say these organizations are necessarily demonic but they can be misguided. The best thing is to go to God first and see how you feel after talking with Him. He will take you down the right path.

  • @alisarye7742
    @alisarye7742 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for being so open and honest. I noticed you were Greek as I am also. I’m so grateful that you discussed this matter (and have been wanting you to!) as I believed you would have done an awesome job illustrating this topic. I was not disappointed. Thank you for not fearing “difficult topics”. I appreciate this channel so much and it helps me be a more knowledgeable Christian.

  • @sujalgurung77
    @sujalgurung77 3 года назад +8

    “If you can't fly then run, if you can't run then walk, if you can't walk then crawl, but whatever you do you have to keep moving forward.” - Martin Luther King
    Same With God Never Stop Moving Forward Not Yourself But With God

    • @jesusisthekingofkingsandlo3231
      @jesusisthekingofkingsandlo3231 3 года назад

      It's you again

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад

      @@jesusisthekingofkingsandlo3231 Yes.... please I WANT TO BE BACK AND NOT OUT HERE
      JUST always in sick FOOLISH trouble. Sometimes I wonder do God hate me..I said that I hate Him didn't mean it and in a mess again...He deliver me and now look?

  • @thegiftofgabby5581
    @thegiftofgabby5581 3 года назад +36

    Great topic. No judgment! But I’m glad I never pledged. Some ppl be more serious about/loyal to these black Greek letter orgs than their marriages! Lol

    • @Channyb89
      @Channyb89 3 года назад +1

      👀

    • @Emmanuelx13
      @Emmanuelx13 3 года назад +1

      Agreed... she left me and put more time and effort into this when she barely met this groups and people haha.. what a shame. I would’ve gave her the world man and with Christ

    • @reginaldsmith8489
      @reginaldsmith8489 2 года назад

      Ummm sorry, you just low-key judged followed by a LOL. Sounds like and looks like judging to me..

    • @f.-j.j.5738
      @f.-j.j.5738 Год назад

      @@reginaldsmith8489 What's wrong with judging? The Bible says don't judge if you're not ready to be judged the same way. But it doesn't say don't judge. On the contrary, it calls us to be judges of angels and earthly disputes. 1 Cor 6:3

  • @lucasdraffen2649
    @lucasdraffen2649 3 года назад +20

    I believe that its important to have Christians in Greek life. For me, im a firm believer and have been for many years. I'm also in a fraternity and through the power of the Lord I have been able to bring light to my brothers and God put me in a position to testify and witness to my friends who do not believe. It has greatly improved my relationship with Christ by relying on his strength to make it day by day while running the fraternity as president. This was all from God and I know that he has me in this fraternity for a reason.
    Many fraternities, including mine, were based on Christian values. Which I carry our every single day

    • @ronniecooper5716
      @ronniecooper5716 2 года назад +4

      “Based on Christian values” just because something is based on “Christian values” don’t make it Christian or good.

    • @legacygroup2012
      @legacygroup2012 2 года назад

      Jesus sat and ate with sinners. If he didn’t, where would that leave us?
      Christian folk are foolishly scared of and biased toward everything.
      Read the Old Testament and pick out how many times God’s people sat and were aided by the “ungodly “

    • @coconurse1
      @coconurse1 10 месяцев назад

      All fraternities and sororities are rooted under Greek gods, and Christians shouldn't be affiliated with them. You can share the gospel with other sinners without pledging and saying oaths under a different god.

    • @ahb3296
      @ahb3296 4 дня назад

      ​@@tamekabarnes8538He said he's "...running the fraternity as president..." Why should anyone act as if that's something The Most High God approves of? ijs Don't whisper that I might be heading towards a deadly cliff. Say it loud and clear--"You're headed towards a cliff! Turn around now!"--so I can make an informed decision as to whether I'm turning around or proceeding to my physical and spiritual death.

    • @ahb3296
      @ahb3296 4 дня назад

      ​​@@legacygroup2012not a valid comparison as Jesus didn't partake in their sin or seek the counsel of the ungodly.

  • @marquitadavis7815
    @marquitadavis7815 3 года назад +10

    I enjoyed your video, but can you explain in 9:35 of the video why you are “not at all” against fraternities and sororities? And have you denounced Alpha Phi Alpha? You mentioned “my” fraternity brothers as if you’re still part of the fraternity. You were saying the right things, but I was wanting clarity on whether you denounced this demonic system.

    • @765567765
      @765567765 3 года назад +12

      Exactly, he didnt say he denounce the organization and also he said he is not against the organization. Also he didnt say no you shouldn't join. He also said my fraternity brothers. He is trying to say no without saying no, while ultimately saying yes you can at the same time. As Christians we shouldn't be trying to play the middle ground. This brother needs to totally denounce the organization.

    • @truth9076
      @truth9076 3 года назад +1

      I caught that too. In Matthew, it clearly says that no one can't serve two masters. Love one and despise the other. I was agreeing with him until that was said. As TRUE Christians, we're exposing the devil's work through the Word of God. Not teaching HIS Word and "protecting" evil spirits too. God is NOT the author of confusion. Praying for Brother Allen to truly denounce this org.

    • @marquitadavis7815
      @marquitadavis7815 3 года назад

      @@truth9076 Amen and Amen!! Let's keep this brother lifted up in prayer. Stay Blessed.

  • @d.leemcdowell2803
    @d.leemcdowell2803 3 года назад +21

    Good points but you failed to completely condemn these organizations. A half truth is still a whole lie.

    • @crystaljohnson327
      @crystaljohnson327 3 года назад +7

      True! My thoughts exactly.

    • @unclebaytaychucklesthe4th346
      @unclebaytaychucklesthe4th346 3 года назад +3

      RIGHT ON, BROTHER!!!! The Shed Blood of The Messiah has provided His creation with all & every tool in which to live a Godly, Righteous, & Sinless Life....Period!!! See Revelations Chapters 2 & 3. The churches that are addressed, So-Called Christian Worshippers, was provided a ultimatum: Repent or Perish!! Only 2 of the 7 churches were found without blemish, and encouraged to continue to live Godly Holy Lives.......Sadly, it ain't what these denominational preachers are preaching?!

    • @misswinnie4.8
      @misswinnie4.8 3 года назад

      Yup.👍

    • @1999RAF
      @1999RAF 3 года назад

      but. he only Asked... thats your choice

  • @MrGlenn7710
    @MrGlenn7710 3 года назад +7

    I joined Alpha Kappa Alpha in college at the age 22.. and the reason I joined was because my mom was an AKA and their was Greek throughout my family..but that was before I came to know Christ..thank you for posting this video.. because there's been discussions on this subject i experienced within the past few years..⚔️🛡️

  • @BeingErikaWhite
    @BeingErikaWhite 2 года назад +3

    You say all this but then say you’re not against fraternities and sororities. Interesting. I know you haven’t renounced your fraternity YET but you probably should knowing all that you know. And then you can speak truthfully that you’re against them… especially having to take the oaths.

  • @Commonmobilenotary
    @Commonmobilenotary 3 года назад +6

    I needed to hear this. My great uncles and my brother are Omegas and I have considered it.

  • @phanjazm
    @phanjazm 3 года назад +2

    Ive read Pdalms 1:1 a million times and never seen it as explained in this video. The progression of walking standing and sitting in our thougjt processs.
    Excellent word bro!!!

    • @thebeatagp
      @thebeatagp  3 года назад +1

      phanjazm j praise God my friend! Yes indeed. We must be careful where we walk because we may end up sitting down in it.

  • @ticaliline
    @ticaliline 2 года назад +2

    I am confused on how you can say all of these things which go against the word of God and still say you are not against it? That makes absolutely no sense and this is why you have to have a personal relationship with God and not depend on people to feed you the word of God because those very same people who are telling you the word of God may not even believe it themselves or even following it.

  • @mclcfuture46
    @mclcfuture46 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for sharing this!!!!!!!!! That poem was one of the many red flags that kept me from joining that specific frat! I asked somebody from the organization to explain this quote and their reasoning for reciting this but their explanation was not enough to get me to join. Honestly, reciting this reeks of idolatry. In general, Panhellenic and National Panhellenic organizations are idolatrous. Just look at the joining process ( by “paper” or by the traditional hazing way). Essentially, one would have to deny him or herself and allow the organization to take priority over everything else. That’s Idolatry! Plus, When a person really studies and get down to the real roots behind the beliefs, chants, practices and ceremonies of these fraternities and sororities , one would discover these organizations do not mix with Christ.

  • @ayreegrey1814
    @ayreegrey1814 3 года назад +5

    Dear Sir,
    Shalom ☮ I come to you in agape ✝️
    Who is your God? You are either for the kingdom of God or of the world. You cannot have one foot in the world and one foot in the Kingdom. You must choose whom you will serve this day . Respectfully, this is misleading. Come into the truth and knowledge our father God, in Yeshua name.🙏
    No!!! Not Founded on Christian principles. Joining greek fraternity and sorority will not, does not align with the word of God.
    Alpha Phi Alpha represents or Osirus/Ra-god. It is a form of idolatry. You cannot serve two masters Matthew 6 :24
    Thou shall have have no other god before me. You take an oath to a greek god. God is a jealous God. This is definitely demonic. Denounce in the name of Jesus. Exodus 20: 1-6
    God bless 🙏

    • @Proverbs-vw2sc
      @Proverbs-vw2sc 3 года назад +1

      Thank you for saying this. I find it disturbing that he makes videos about staying on the narrow path, but has not denounced his fraternity.

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад

      @@Proverbs-vw2sc He is a Divinity bible School salvation minister.....they are do DELUSIONAL

  • @michasimon146
    @michasimon146 3 года назад +1

    Hey Allen, i truly appreciate your channel. It is so truth-filled and comes from a humble heart! Thank you for your precious work! God bless you!

  • @Lavontemusic
    @Lavontemusic 3 года назад +3

    Thank God for the wisdom and the understanding he has given Bro Allen to touch on some of the hardest topics during this new age living where so many bible prinicals are pushed to the side God bless you brother have been enjoying your videos

  • @renekastewart3975
    @renekastewart3975 2 года назад +3

    WARNINGS ⚠️ JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON BELIEVE AND REPENT JESUS IS THE TRUTH THE LIFE THE WAY GOD LOVES YOU TRUST IN HIM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BLESSED DAY SPREAD THE GOSPEL AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN 🙏😇💙💚💛

  • @starship1012
    @starship1012 3 года назад +8

    This was interesting, I'm considering pledging AKA but I'm very firm in my beliefs. I just have conflict with the rituals, mantras and poems. Definitely making me want to research further into this.

    • @aspenrussell6323
      @aspenrussell6323 Год назад +4

      if you’re firm in your beliefs than you wouldn’t consider joining , it’s that simple. let your yes be your yes and your no be your no

    • @valencian6836
      @valencian6836 Год назад +1

      Glad you are going to do your research. Some of these 'pledeges' come straight from the bible and God's name is replaced with the org's name. Which is in direct opposition to God's will. Blessings of clarity to you.

  • @lexijustasiam895
    @lexijustasiam895 Год назад +1

    Brother Allen, I pray that you have renounced. Christians have no business being in these orgs. Much love in Christ, Ex-AKA 🙏🏻🤍✨️

  • @dab795
    @dab795 2 года назад +1

    Hey Frat, I agree - I pledged in 1988 and Invictus always pricked my 21 yr old spirit. Your commentary is spot on. This episode was very well done and keep on teaching.

  • @missj2559
    @missj2559 3 года назад +6

    Whenever we come into agreement with these type of things we open ourselves up to curses. Their are demons attached to these fraternity's. I am currently learning about deliverance & in my journey I found out alot about how demons cause strong holds on us and the multiple ways they come into our life. If anyone has came in to agreement (contract/covenant) you must repent, renounce it, bind and rebuke it and cancel it out in the name of Jesus. I'm telling you curses come along with those pledges we as Christians should only be pledging to God. Remember He is a jealous God and although He is merciful He will not tolerate this. God bless :)

  • @indiemeans9735
    @indiemeans9735 3 года назад +13

    Exactly SGRHO says to thee only sigma gamma rho, I pledge my life. That never felt right with me because God is over my life not an organization.

    • @ShanaeFlower
      @ShanaeFlower 3 года назад +1

      Right. I’m a Sigma Gamma Rho Philo Affiliate and lately my spirit and soul hasn’t been wanting to continue this. So glad I came across these videos 👏🏽

    • @indiemeans9735
      @indiemeans9735 3 года назад +1

      @@ShanaeFlower my induction had “sorority sisters” of different religious backgrounds placing their hand on the Bible. That is Blasphemy.From that moment everything crumbled. The next week the sorority was suspended...

  • @AdrienneWSU
    @AdrienneWSU 3 года назад +1

    I am so elated that you touched on this topic, and bravely shared your story. You are one of few people who touch on the hazing issue that is very much still active today, as well as the "Invictus" poem. Those were two primary factors that bothered me as a Christian, and as a Black Woman. I did not feel comfortable abusing my spiritual health, and I certainly didn't feel comfortable abusing anyone else physically or emotionally. It felt great to see someone who was a part of it say it was not good.
    There is also a lot of division amongst chapters of the same Sororities/Fraternities, particularly if one hazed harder than the other (or not at all) than you're not real to them!...And althought most Grad chapters often don't be involved in the same level of craziness as undergrads, they know about it, and dont try to change it, and many don't want to. They think it should be exactly the way it is.
    I actually founded a non-secretative Christian Sorority with my sister five years ago. There were some great Christian Sororities and Fraternities that were already in existence as well (they occasionally make errors too), but I saw a unique need locally that God was calling me to address.

  • @trueheart8739
    @trueheart8739 3 года назад +1

    Make it plain brother!!!! I’m so glad you tackled this subject! Awesome message. This will bless many!!

  • @nocturnalmadness9517
    @nocturnalmadness9517 3 года назад +6

    Just reading the title of this video without viewing it brought a big NO to my mind. There is no way for a person to keep a solid Christian testimony when joining one. And the temptation to sin will cause most if not all to do just that. Christian, stay away!

    • @TriciaRP
      @TriciaRP 3 года назад

      Please pray I am in Serious need of Holy Spirit to take me back and away from self flesh demons
      ...

  • @BianVerr
    @BianVerr 3 года назад +7

    This is something that I have been thinking about. I joined the zeta phi beta in 2012 at the age of 20 . I am 28 now with more knowledge and a better relationship with GOD. It never caused me to go against my values when I joined. Currently , I am not active in the organization but I haven't denounced them yet.

    • @Unboundbygrace
      @Unboundbygrace Год назад +1

      We joined around the same time. Have you decided to denounce them yet? I’m in the process of doing so.

    • @BianVerr
      @BianVerr Год назад +2

      @@Unboundbygrace Hello, I have not had the chance to look into it yet. But I am currently not active. I am hoping to look into it soon.

    • @Unboundbygrace
      @Unboundbygrace Год назад +2

      @@BianVerr Oh okay! thank you for replying 🙏🏾 I pray for your peace as you go through the process.

    • @crespeakslife
      @crespeakslife 11 месяцев назад

      Hey! Also a member and will be denouncing soon. Have you denounced yet?

  • @lindamarshall7104
    @lindamarshall7104 6 месяцев назад +2

    You have to choose.

  • @dianewilliams4123
    @dianewilliams4123 Год назад

    Amen! Thank God for your courage Allen Parr to do this video. Thank you for sharing your experiences in order to help others not make the same mistakes. This video should make Christians think and pray before they act.