So I received my Lined Wool Packer earlier in the week, (yeah, don't hate on me) and it is absolutely the finest piece of outerwear I've ever owned. Growing up as a kid in Northern Colorado, right up against the front range, running a trapline in the winter, duck hunting and an occasional deer hunt, backpacking in the Rawah Wilderness Area, and fishing the rest of the year gave you the dreams to live the adventure life that's shown in the Filson catalogue. As I got older, college, work, career, and life's responsibilities slowly put those dreams to the back of my mind. Sometime this winter in SW Oklahoma, it will be cold enough that I can actually wear my new packer jacket outside for a day or two as I scout around on my little 43 acre ranch. No - it's not Alaska, but when I kick up a couple of ducks off the creek or flush a couple of quail, I'll go back to those days of being a kid with big dreams, and I'll smile a bit wistfully, but I'll be wearing the type of jacket I wore in those dreams 50 years ago. And that's worth far more than the cost of the jacket. Thanks Carl for another terrific review!
I love this type of ruggid and masculine clothes. Wool overshirts, wool trousers, quilted jackets and vest. This whole lumberjack/classic 1950s construction worker style. You can tell by the material and craftsmanship that these clothes are high quality stuff and do not come cheap
difference with the cape and double mac is that the cape coat only has a double layer on the upperbody while the double mack is double all the way from the sleeves to the upperbody. So basically that first packer coat is a double mackinaw (slightly longer) with a shearling collar
4GG and 3GG are just referencing the gauge of the yarn they use in those sweaters. The 3GG yarn, and sweater as a result, is coarser than the 4GG. Both are made in Scotland.
THIS is the content I'm looking for! Appreciate all the alternatives you offer! Filson marketing has been destroying my inbox and feeds and it can be so discouraging everytime you click the link and realize you're NOT the intended market as a blue collar worker who needs affordable performance.
Great video! Thank you for including us in your buying thought process, it's very insightful. I live in Skagit Valley, pronounced Skă-jit, Washington and didn't know about the Filson Skagit rainwear items. It makes sense, we get plenty of rain here.
Here’s one thing you won’t find in there anymore. My 1960 Filson Forestry Wool Cruiser. I picked a NOS version on eBay with tags still attached for around $220. Unmatched quality and attention to detail when compared to the modern stuff. What I love most about it is the diagonal stitching which encourages a real comfortable and almost wind resistant fit. Plus it’s nowhere as scratchy as my new Mackinaw Cruiser that I ended up selling after a winter.
While I do love Filson, and their products are definitely good, I've fallen in love with Swedish wool. Fjällräven offers incredibly high quality wool and synthetic winter gear that looks great, is very comfortable, and most importantly is fairly affordable. I've had the same two wool sweaters for years. They're still holding strong, and they're still very warm.
@@jayschu81 I 100% agree. The only saving grace about that, is that the quality is still there. I put my stuff through a hard life, and their gear has yet to fail me.
@@MarkPharaoh I get thet they have some a lot of expensive things, they also have a lot of affordable things. Their wool definitely is in the latter section. 150 for an all wool, heavy sweater isn't a lot. If you start going substantially cheaper, you're now talking about 50/50 blended materials, or a much lighter weight end product.
I bought a mackinaw jacket, vest, and highlander boots new in 1997. Even with much use, they all look and wear as good as the day I got them. Great value!!!
Arc’teryx Leaf is nearly impossible to find right now, but especially their base layer products are extremely well-made. BTW, I’m really enjoying this video!
Last weekend I was in Chicago and went to the Filson store in Naperville to hopefully see the elusive $1K robe. They didn’t have it in stock. Your love/hate relationship resonates with many of your followers. I’m one. Correct me if I’m wrong but, Filson seems to have invested more in their advertising and less in their American work force. Many of your followers including me would spend the extra dollars if Filson would get back to the core values of CC Filson.
I agree completely, I've purchased several clothing items from them for forestry work but as I see their never-ending price increases and the market they're chasing I actually want to avoid purchasing from them. Shameful thing is, profit margins are higher from the fashion statement crowd so that's the way they'll keep going.
I really appreciate that even when you recognize a particular brand may not be suitable for many people, you still choose to educate your audience and help to steer them in the right direction for them anyhow. I really don't think you can ask for better content on this front!
Once again we are talking about heirloom items. When it comes to that you really can't beat Filson Mackinaw wool. As for all the other stuff, I'll send my money to Carhart. Thanks for taking us through the catalog. I have a lot of items that I never would have purchased if not for a good review by you.
I used to buy Carhartt factory errors, overruns, etc. at a place called Sierra Trading Post when I was working fleet operations for car rental companies in Alaska. I would like to see Carl's take on Sierra Trading Post and what good deals he sees at Sierra. They do carry Filson I think
I was a Filson fan for many years. When I would be in the Seattle area for business I would literally walk 3 miles one way from my hotel to the Filson store. Now that I am recently retired and living on a fixed budget Filson is now out of my price range.
Double Mac doubles the fabric over the shoulders to include top pocket flaps and 1/3d way down the back, and doubles the arms. It’s great for ice fishing or a duck blind, but too warm for anything involving moving. At least here in South Dakota. P.S. A Stormy Kromer doesn’t begin to stand up to the Filson over even two winters.
Love your videos, thanks to you I got my first carhartt jacket and ordered a pair of wesco jobmasters. Great, informative content and entertaining to boot, keep at it!
my father passed away 7 years ago @ 71, he swore by filson products most of his adult life for the quality and durability even had a set of luggage he proudly touted. Companies evolve and change but i feel like he would be a little disappointed in some of the choice filson has made in these recent years. I believe they still make quality products but have somehow diluted their brand a bit with some items, maybe its out of necessity to stay in business. great video, enjoy the channel and content
Filson’s Double Mackinaw Cap is made with Natural Shearling while the Stormy Kromer Snowdrift cap does not have shearling, its man made plastic material, so there is some of your cost. The SK feel slightly cheaper. The 4GG sweaters are amazing.
Hello again Carl, I’ve been buying Filson products for many years and you’re right about the pricing, lots of it is very overpriced. The past few years though I just wait until their winter or summer sale which is very good although you need to be quick about it being many sizes are quickly sold out too. Love your videos man, thanks for all your input on so many things 🤙
@@CarlMurawski I’ve gotten myself their famous messenger bag ( The twill one ) at literally 1/2 price on the sale. Usually it’ll only be offered in 1 color but @ half price I’ll settle on color 🤙
It’s weird, the few items of Filson I do buy and wear fall into the “pumping gas with a Range Rover” use case while I have various performance wool and synthetic items that are just better out in the woods for most activities. Just because these garments were great a century ago for the outdoorsman doesn’t mean they’re at the top now, regardless of their asking price.
Carhartt definitely makes the best flannel imo. I had quite a few brands and Carhartts just has done alright by me. Remember to size down though. Also beware of Filsons wool quality, supposedly wool is anti microbial, but I wore my vest on a camping trip a few weeks ago and it still stinks just like smoke. But get this, my sterkowski cap has already worn away at the smell and smells like almost nothing again. I get that the Filson wool is thicker but it’s been weeks with no luck, I expected some smell to dissipate by now but no sir. Also Schott makes a muuuuch heavier wool peacoat for a little over half the price of a Filson Mackinaw Cruiser. I know the jacket is less woodsy but it’s still alot heavier, I’ve been tempted to buy one and modify it to be more outdoorsy to suit my needs.
I have a Filson Double Makinaw and a Stormy Kromer Makinaw. Both 26oz 100% wool coats. Other than pockets no difference at all other than the Stormy Kromer wool seems less scratchy.
The “shack jerk” 🤣 I got into Filson 2 years ago and turned off of Filson about 1 1/2 years ago. Their stuff is just way overpriced. That vest is about the only thing I like. Whenever I see stuff like that robe for $1,000 and they sold out it always makes me chuckle and wonder who the hell is buying this stuff??? Great job Carl, love your thoughts on Filson.
@@CarlMurawski Yeah! I'm very looking forward to that! Saw that the tag says "Made in USA of Imported Materials". Do you know if they changed something here? Thankful for any hints!
I actually just bought the jac shirt! Re: Jac Shirt vs Cruiser...you forgot to mention that the jac shirt is $100 less. This actually ties in very nicely with what you were saying about them raising prices on random stuff, mostly their more "popular", "well known" or "nice looking" stuff. The jac shirt is, far as I can tell, a cruiser with a couple of pockets removed and a liner stitched into the inside (was it only 18oz wool at some point? either way now it's the same 26oz wool as the cruiser). So by ALL ACCOUNTS, they should either be the same price, or the jac-shirt should be the more expensive one (I can't imagine that liner is cheap, even the inside of the "hand warmer" pockets are lined, which is SO amazing for comfort). OR if the cruiser was their ONE item still manufactured in the US, that would make sense - it IS their most well known item, and a bit expensive compared to even their own catalog. It's funny you mentioned the pockets, btw, i didn't notice that they were off to the side and honestly my first thought was "omg that pocket is so comfy and warm for my hands (perhaps because my previous jacket - a cheap duck one i got from marks warehouse, had similar pockets?). I was waiting for this, mostly cuz i wanted to see if "Black/Olive/Navy" was a new 2021 color (which you can see@ 7:45 it is, for the jac shirt), so thank you for that as well!
One benefit to the pockets being so far to the side is they work well with chainsawing or any other cutting. The pockets do not fill with chips as easily compared to more forward open pockets.
I have a cruiser and a jacshirt. I reckon the jacshirt is the better item. Is warmer and more like a coat. Side pockets no great issue to me. My arms reach them ok
The reason for the price difference on the lined jac-shirt vs the mackinaw cruiser all comes down to where it’s made and how much mackinaw wool you’re getting….the cruiser has a full double layer of wool on the back(makes the map pocket) and with the pockets up front is nearly doubled up there as well. The Jac-shirt on the other hand is a single layer of wool front and back(with the exception of the smaller-than-the-cruiser chest pockets) and while it is completely lined that lining is made with much less expensive cotton and polyester…..but the biggest part of the price difference is due to the jac-shirt being made in Bangladesh vs the cruiser being made the USA.
Alaskan Guide Shirt is good quality, and better than LL Bean. Now is it $50 bucks better, I think so, and they last forever if you keep them out of the dryer. I believe Filson is very high priced but do make some great products that last decades. I wish I had bought a wool jacket before the price hike.
Love these clips... especially for us who live outside of the US. You gave ole Filson a bit of a beating... in fairness the prices for the US market may seem steep, but for us in Australia most of the prices are fair... if only retailers in Australia charged the US price, most will mark up about another 30-50%. We end up having to order direct from Filson and cop the $70 usd plus shipping fee. Great video, look forward to more reviews... cheers Moose.
I don’t completely disagree that a lot of their stuff is overpriced but also some of the alternatives you mentioned are only maybe 40 or 50 bucks cheaper and might not match the look or the color. Also while filson is straying away from this more and more a lot of stuff is still made in the US and finally as a big guy I have so much better luck finding stuff that fits with filson then any of this kickstarter stuff that never goes above like XL in size. I do think their wool is worth it still for a lot of stuff and even when the price is too high it still is sure to be a very high quality piece even if the economics really isn’t there so I don’t think it’s fair to just totally dismiss them as an option. Oh also the mackinaw blanket is 100% mackinaw wool and is bigger then alot of other options while really not being too far off in price. I’d say that if you care about quality that should factor in when evaluating this stuff and I’m poor myself and am lucky to have the few filson pieces that I have so I’m not coming at this from being rich and out of touch or something. I desperately want that damn Sherpa packer coat but I don’t think I’ll ever be able to justify it nor will I voluntarily go someplace so cold I would need it but who knows maybe there will be another sample sale at their factory and I will get lucky.
Great vid, I love the look and feel of filson products, but for the most part I will not be buying from them again--- except for if I can find my grail jacket, which is a discontinued ranger oil cloth jacket, but you can find better priced products at the same quality elsewhere. Let's hope we get over the filson Dark Age soon.
Living in Florida and Tennessee, I only get to wear my Filson stuff about 20 times a year so I’ll never wear them out. (Picked up my virtually unused Tin Cloth Jacket for $8 at a resale shop.) Can’t believe the vests are $100 more than I paid a few years ago.)
What happened to their journeyman backpack? Do they still have it and is it still made in the US? I heard it was either discontinued or going overseas to be manufactured
Really appreciate the honesty that comes with experience with these products. Thank you for the alternatives as well, love Filson but some prices are avoidable 😄🙌
A lot of this stuff I wouldn't find comfortable or breathable enough to actually hike/camp and work in. Especially during the winter when staying as dry as possible is #1. Though I like the look of the heritage stuff its just too hard to beat the synthetics you get from ourdoor brands Patagonia, outdoor research, mountain hardware ect
Great review! Filson wool is indeed awesome and perfect to buy second hand when you can find it. I love my Mackinaw vest, even if I feel like an extra from Peaky Blinders sometimes. Takes some confidence to pull off the look, but you can’t beat the functionality.
Love Filson! It has gravitated to fashion icon status and the increase in price is part of that. If people are buying it as workwear and not for fashion then that is just silly. Would you jog in Balenciaga shoes? Of course not!
The lined ragg wool beanie's price is still pretty high IMO for a 50/50 Wool-Polyester blend. Patagonia offers a 70/30 blend Wool/Nylon for around the same price. I'd much rather have more wool over synthetics if possible.
I can assure you Grayers when it comes to flannels has nothing on Filson.. I would without hesitation purchase a Filson vintage flannel shirt at $145 over Grayers flannels with horrible quality control issues at $125 --- believe it.
Notice the almost complete lack of tin cloth in their catalog? No tin packer, no tin cruiser. Hasn't been in stock in over a year and a half in my size. Finally gave up and bought a tensaw jacket instead. I'll probably be happier anyway.
I would be very willing to pay the price of some of these Filson goods, but - my biggest gripe - no long or tall sizes, or very limited selection of goods that are tall or long.
Their website shows long versions of all of the Macs, or rather it did last time I looked. I bought a 44 long single Mac at a ranch store in Wyoming a long time back, but seldom wore it because the sleeves were too long. Finally I sold it on consignment.
You should really check out the brand Anian. Really impressed with their products/pricing/quality. Canadian company putting our heritage US companies to absolute shame.
I don’t buy it. The old version have is plenty slim and I use that keeper all the time without issue. It seems more like a cost saving measure to me, but I’ve been wrong before once…
Wearing my cruiser while getting oil changed in range rover. Man you got it wrong…. It is an LX570 and it has been on a dirt road… once. I thought i was going to chip my ceramic coat… luckily the mobile detailer was able to buff it out. i know, i am a rebel. On a serious note, i Look forward to your review each year. Good times. Thank you. I do love the mac wool shirt jac as well as the cruiser. Both classics. Agree on the flannels. If you want a quality US made flannel look to vermont flannel company..
You are so thorough. And candid! You enunciate particularly well and even my husband who relies heavy on captioning can look away and hear you. I need to buy ladies wear and wish there were evaluations for that as well. One thing, please get manicures. With duds like yours we don’t want to see shaggy cuticules 🥰
Love Filson. But prices have gotten insane. I bought a Sportsman bag about 8 years ago for about $200. It's worth that. Now it's pushing $500. For a bag you can't get 3 days worth of stuff in. The wool, made in USA stuff is probably worth 60% what they're asking. Skip all the imported stuff. Just hit LL Bean. But it you want a wool Mackinaw Cruiser to last the rest of your life, YOLO.
I saw a review of the wool cruiser and you can look right through it. It has a very loose weave and that is unacceptable for a 24 oz fabric in my opinion. I do not expect wool to be woven as tight as duck or cordura, but for something that heavy it's not something I'd spend 500 bucks on.
If I'm spending that much I want the company to be like Patagonia or United by Blue where they are making an active effort to change the industry and reduce their carbon footprint. That or it's the top of the top (aka arcteryx). Filson does neither and it's not worth the money compared to other made in USA brands
Carl: Here’s an idea. Could you somehow snag an interview with a Filson rep to ask them some hard, pricing questions?That would be even better than this video! They need some down-to-earth feedback.
Hahaha sorry but they wont change that. Thats how capitalism works: put the prices up as high as possible till people stop buying. The Brand is now a luxury Brand with an workwear/Vintage Heritage Image. And they sell it all to the Hipsters... There almost like Harley Davidson: they sell a "Lifestyle/Dream" and it just works
Yes the filson flannels are definitely not worth it. I have 3 pendleton board shirts and 2 canyon shirts, and those are so much better than the filson flannels
Thank god Filson is so durable because I'll end up living outside after missing my rent to pay for a jacket
Hey! That's not how to justify high prices!
Man, no doubt about that! They're crazy with these prices.
😂😂😂🤣
Remember what they say about the high prices......It's transitory.
Don’t buy their jackets. There are better alternatives. The only thing Filson has that’s worth it, is their canvas and leather bags
So I received my Lined Wool Packer earlier in the week, (yeah, don't hate on me) and it is absolutely the finest piece of outerwear I've ever owned. Growing up as a kid in Northern Colorado, right up against the front range, running a trapline in the winter, duck hunting and an occasional deer hunt, backpacking in the Rawah Wilderness Area, and fishing the rest of the year gave you the dreams to live the adventure life that's shown in the Filson catalogue. As I got older, college, work, career, and life's responsibilities slowly put those dreams to the back of my mind. Sometime this winter in SW Oklahoma, it will be cold enough that I can actually wear my new packer jacket outside for a day or two as I scout around on my little 43 acre ranch. No - it's not Alaska, but when I kick up a couple of ducks off the creek or flush a couple of quail, I'll go back to those days of being a kid with big dreams, and I'll smile a bit wistfully, but I'll be wearing the type of jacket I wore in those dreams 50 years ago. And that's worth far more than the cost of the jacket. Thanks Carl for another terrific review!
Hahaha no hate here! I think you can definitely get some great items, it’s just feels like Filson is out of touch with their heritage.
“Most people that are wearing it now you know getting the oil changed on their range rover” laughed so hard! Thanks for the video, great as always
Well Carl is making RUclips videos in his.
I love this type of ruggid and masculine clothes. Wool overshirts, wool trousers, quilted jackets and vest. This whole lumberjack/classic 1950s construction worker style.
You can tell by the material and craftsmanship that these clothes are high quality stuff and do not come cheap
difference with the cape and double mac is that the cape coat only has a double layer on the upperbody while the double mack is double all the way from the sleeves to the upperbody. So basically that first packer coat is a double mackinaw (slightly longer) with a shearling collar
4GG and 3GG are just referencing the gauge of the yarn they use in those sweaters. The 3GG yarn, and sweater as a result, is coarser than the 4GG. Both are made in Scotland.
Thank you for the clarification!
THIS is the content I'm looking for! Appreciate all the alternatives you offer! Filson marketing has been destroying my inbox and feeds and it can be so discouraging everytime you click the link and realize you're NOT the intended market as a blue collar worker who needs affordable performance.
Also, Carl, I'm hoping to some day get your take on the company Dri-Duck and how the outerwear stacks up with your work-wear recommendations.
I’d be happy to check them out. So many cool brands, so little time!
Great video! Thank you for including us in your buying thought process, it's very insightful. I live in Skagit Valley, pronounced Skă-jit, Washington and didn't know about the Filson Skagit rainwear items. It makes sense, we get plenty of rain here.
Here’s one thing you won’t find in there anymore. My 1960 Filson Forestry Wool Cruiser. I picked a NOS version on eBay with tags still attached for around $220. Unmatched quality and attention to detail when compared to the modern stuff. What I love most about it is the diagonal stitching which encourages a real comfortable and almost wind resistant fit. Plus it’s nowhere as scratchy as my new Mackinaw Cruiser that I ended up selling after a winter.
Sir, I do not use my wool jacket to change the oil in my Range Rover. I use it to change the oil in my Land Cruiser!
While I do love Filson, and their products are definitely good, I've fallen in love with Swedish wool. Fjällräven offers incredibly high quality wool and synthetic winter gear that looks great, is very comfortable, and most importantly is fairly affordable. I've had the same two wool sweaters for years. They're still holding strong, and they're still very warm.
It’s hilarious when Fjallraven starts being spoken about as affordable 😂. Shows how crazy some companies like Filson have become with their pricing.
I'd like it a heckuva lot more if it was made in Sweden instead of China.
@@jayschu81 I 100% agree. The only saving grace about that, is that the quality is still there. I put my stuff through a hard life, and their gear has yet to fail me.
@@MarkPharaoh I get thet they have some a lot of expensive things, they also have a lot of affordable things. Their wool definitely is in the latter section. 150 for an all wool, heavy sweater isn't a lot. If you start going substantially cheaper, you're now talking about 50/50 blended materials, or a much lighter weight end product.
Fjällrävin does have some great looking stuff. They have a few sweaters I want to get, but then I saw 1500 for a parka... I kinda gave up on them. Lol
I bought a mackinaw jacket, vest, and highlander boots new in 1997. Even with much use, they all look and wear as good as the day I got them. Great value!!!
Arc’teryx Leaf is nearly impossible to find right now, but especially their base layer products are extremely well-made. BTW, I’m really enjoying this video!
Thank you very much sir!
The service boot 2’s are incredible, got them for $50 at a sample sale and love them
Last weekend I was in Chicago and went to the Filson store in Naperville to hopefully see the elusive $1K robe. They didn’t have it in stock.
Your love/hate relationship resonates with many of your followers. I’m one.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, Filson seems to have invested more in their advertising and less in their American work force.
Many of your followers including me would spend the extra dollars if Filson would get back to the core values of CC Filson.
very well said! I couldn’t agree more!
I agree completely, I've purchased several clothing items from them for forestry work but as I see their never-ending price increases and the market they're chasing I actually want to avoid purchasing from them. Shameful thing is, profit margins are higher from the fashion statement crowd so that's the way they'll keep going.
The wool jackets and some other items are worth it. It’s the $200 sweatshirts and $75 t shirts that are silly.
The flannel recommendations in this video are gold! 12:10
I really appreciate that even when you recognize a particular brand may not be suitable for many people, you still choose to educate your audience and help to steer them in the right direction for them anyhow. I really don't think you can ask for better content on this front!
Good luck finding any item that actually fits for the sizes you are used to buying.
Once again we are talking about heirloom items. When it comes to that you really can't beat Filson Mackinaw wool. As for all the other stuff, I'll send my money to Carhart.
Thanks for taking us through the catalog. I have a lot of items that I never would have purchased if not for a good review by you.
I used to buy Carhartt factory errors, overruns, etc. at a place called Sierra Trading Post when I was working fleet operations for car rental companies in Alaska. I would like to see Carl's take on Sierra Trading Post and what good deals he sees at Sierra. They do carry Filson I think
I was a Filson fan for many years. When I would be in the Seattle area for business I would literally walk 3 miles one way from my hotel to the Filson store. Now that I am recently retired and living on a fixed budget Filson is now out of my price range.
Double Mac doubles the fabric over the shoulders to include top pocket flaps and 1/3d way down the back, and doubles the arms. It’s great for ice fishing or a duck blind, but too warm for anything involving moving. At least here in South Dakota.
P.S. A Stormy Kromer doesn’t begin to stand up to the Filson over even two winters.
Good to know! Thank you for the feedback
Double Mack’s have 2 layer sleeves too. Cape coats don’t.
Hey Carl, you should make a video over the Carhartt insulated pants.
I certainly can!
Love your videos, thanks to you I got my first carhartt jacket and ordered a pair of wesco jobmasters. Great, informative content and entertaining to boot, keep at it!
Thank you very much!!!
I don’t thing there’s a single person that doesn’t have a love hate relationship with Filson
For someone who often presents very expensive products, when you actually say something is too expensive or not a value, I believe you.
I got this catalog in the mail. It made me laugh for days to come. Now i use the pages to fill empty spaces in boxes when shipping some items out.
Lol!
Ll.bean wool is super tuff and warm. The price is realistic for people who actually use there clothes for work and outdoor use.
my father passed away 7 years ago @ 71, he swore by filson products most of his adult life for the quality and durability even had a set of luggage he proudly touted. Companies evolve and change but i feel like he would be a little disappointed in some of the choice filson has made in these recent years. I believe they still make quality products but have somehow diluted their brand a bit with some items, maybe its out of necessity to stay in business. great video, enjoy the channel and content
Filson’s Double Mackinaw Cap is made with Natural Shearling while the Stormy Kromer Snowdrift cap does not have shearling, its man made plastic material, so there is some of your cost. The SK feel slightly cheaper. The 4GG sweaters are amazing.
Hello again Carl,
I’ve been buying Filson products for many years and you’re right about the pricing, lots of it is very overpriced. The past few years though I just wait until their winter or summer sale which is very good although you need to be quick about it being many sizes are quickly sold out too. Love your videos man, thanks for all your input on so many things 🤙
Good call on that!! It’s a great way to get some good deals for sure, if you have that quick draw mouse!
@@CarlMurawski I’ve gotten myself their famous messenger bag ( The twill one ) at literally 1/2 price on the sale. Usually it’ll only be offered in 1 color but @ half price I’ll settle on color 🤙
If you want a great wool sweater, the best on the market is the Stanfield wool henley. They're so popular here in British Columbia
Carl shares cheaper alternatives to the filson catalog 😂 Thank you for your service
As far as the merino wool thermals go, minus 33 makes a wider variety of garments with superior quality. And they have some at better prices as well
Yes! I have a pair and love them. Good call!
Be great if you can do a weatherwool review, it is a pricey piece of garment but would love to know how you feel about it.
It’s weird, the few items of Filson I do buy and wear fall into the “pumping gas with a Range Rover” use case while I have various performance wool and synthetic items that are just better out in the woods for most activities. Just because these garments were great a century ago for the outdoorsman doesn’t mean they’re at the top now, regardless of their asking price.
Very good point!
Wool is a pretty good material though!
@@AgonxOC Sure, but there are plenty of performance focused wool garments out there, such as Nuyarn.
Carhartt definitely makes the best flannel imo. I had quite a few brands and Carhartts just has done alright by me. Remember to size down though.
Also beware of Filsons wool quality, supposedly wool is anti microbial, but I wore my vest on a camping trip a few weeks ago and it still stinks just like smoke. But get this, my sterkowski cap has already worn away at the smell and smells like almost nothing again. I get that the Filson wool is thicker but it’s been weeks with no luck, I expected some smell to dissipate by now but no sir.
Also Schott makes a muuuuch heavier wool peacoat for a little over half the price of a Filson Mackinaw Cruiser. I know the jacket is less woodsy but it’s still alot heavier, I’ve been tempted to buy one and modify it to be more outdoorsy to suit my needs.
You can have the keeper added to the briefcase if you bring it into one of their stores. I agree it should be standard though
Good to know!
I have a Filson Double Makinaw and a Stormy Kromer Makinaw. Both 26oz 100% wool coats. Other than pockets no difference at all other than the Stormy Kromer wool seems less scratchy.
Thanks for the review, are you thinking about reviewing some of the stuff from Black Bear Brand?
You should definitely check out some KÜHL gear. I own several different pieces from them, and really like each and every one of them
I definitely will!
The “shack jerk” 🤣 I got into Filson 2 years ago and turned off of Filson about 1 1/2 years ago. Their stuff is just way overpriced. That vest is about the only thing I like. Whenever I see stuff like that robe for $1,000 and they sold out it always makes me chuckle and wonder who the hell is buying this stuff??? Great job Carl, love your thoughts on Filson.
Thank you a lot for the ongoing great content Carl! Just got my Mackinaw Cruiser and am loving it!!
Awesome! You’ll have that thing for a lifetime (or two!)
@@CarlMurawski Yeah! I'm very looking forward to that! Saw that the tag says "Made in USA of Imported Materials". Do you know if they changed something here? Thankful for any hints!
@@jackmcbannon, I believe the wool comes from a Canadian flock of sheep….woven by Pendleton woolen mills
Double mackinaw cap is genuine shearling and made in USA hence the price.
Good looking out!
That's a great video, thank you! I noticed the journeyman backpack isn't found in the new catalogue, do you think it's discountinued? Greetings!
Oh man, I hope not! That was a great backpack
"Five Brothers" flannel shirts, they don't get any better.
I actually just bought the jac shirt! Re: Jac Shirt vs Cruiser...you forgot to mention that the jac shirt is $100 less. This actually ties in very nicely with what you were saying about them raising prices on random stuff, mostly their more "popular", "well known" or "nice looking" stuff. The jac shirt is, far as I can tell, a cruiser with a couple of pockets removed and a liner stitched into the inside (was it only 18oz wool at some point? either way now it's the same 26oz wool as the cruiser). So by ALL ACCOUNTS, they should either be the same price, or the jac-shirt should be the more expensive one (I can't imagine that liner is cheap, even the inside of the "hand warmer" pockets are lined, which is SO amazing for comfort). OR if the cruiser was their ONE item still manufactured in the US, that would make sense - it IS their most well known item, and a bit expensive compared to even their own catalog. It's funny you mentioned the pockets, btw, i didn't notice that they were off to the side and honestly my first thought was "omg that pocket is so comfy and warm for my hands (perhaps because my previous jacket - a cheap duck one i got from marks warehouse, had similar pockets?). I was waiting for this, mostly cuz i wanted to see if "Black/Olive/Navy" was a new 2021 color (which you can see@ 7:45 it is, for the jac shirt), so thank you for that as well!
One benefit to the pockets being so far to the side is they work well with chainsawing or any other cutting. The pockets do not fill with chips as easily compared to more forward open pockets.
I have a cruiser and a jacshirt. I reckon the jacshirt is the better item. Is warmer and more like a coat. Side pockets no great issue to me. My arms reach them ok
@@jonstern7511 agreed. I have both and much prefer the jac shirt. The liner really cuts down on the wind, which is the bane of the cruiser.
The reason for the price difference on the lined jac-shirt vs the mackinaw cruiser all comes down to where it’s made and how much mackinaw wool you’re getting….the cruiser has a full double layer of wool on the back(makes the map pocket) and with the pockets up front is nearly doubled up there as well. The Jac-shirt on the other hand is a single layer of wool front and back(with the exception of the smaller-than-the-cruiser chest pockets) and while it is completely lined that lining is made with much less expensive cotton and polyester…..but the biggest part of the price difference is due to the jac-shirt being made in Bangladesh vs the cruiser being made the USA.
@@mostBurnt815 cotton lining I think. But I take your point..
Alaskan Guide Shirt is good quality, and better than LL Bean. Now is it $50 bucks better, I think so, and they last forever if you keep them out of the dryer. I believe Filson is very high priced but do make some great products that last decades. I wish I had bought a wool jacket before the price hike.
Their 4GG sweater really caught my attention...time to start saving up 😅
I'm wearing one of their jackets right now standing outside while it's 40 cooking a steak!
Love these clips... especially for us who live outside of the US. You gave ole Filson a bit of a beating... in fairness the prices for the US market may seem steep, but for us in Australia most of the prices are fair... if only retailers in Australia charged the US price, most will mark up about another 30-50%. We end up having to order direct from Filson and cop the $70 usd plus shipping fee. Great video, look forward to more reviews... cheers Moose.
Stormy Kromer hat doesn't have shearling. Big difference in quality. Love the channel though
Thanks for clarifying!
Woolpower is my go to merino wool clothing manufacturer and everything is cut and sewn in Sweden!
The Carhartt ear flap cap is a great alternative to the Stormy Kromer
The Big Bill wool pants are great. I've worn them for decades
The best handmade sweater is the Cowichan sweater
100%, very very expensive but worth it for the cool Canadian vibes! $600 for the Filson is about right. The Canadian ones are $500.
I don’t completely disagree that a lot of their stuff is overpriced but also some of the alternatives you mentioned are only maybe 40 or 50 bucks cheaper and might not match the look or the color. Also while filson is straying away from this more and more a lot of stuff is still made in the US and finally as a big guy I have so much better luck finding stuff that fits with filson then any of this kickstarter stuff that never goes above like XL in size. I do think their wool is worth it still for a lot of stuff and even when the price is too high it still is sure to be a very high quality piece even if the economics really isn’t there so I don’t think it’s fair to just totally dismiss them as an option. Oh also the mackinaw blanket is 100% mackinaw wool and is bigger then alot of other options while really not being too far off in price. I’d say that if you care about quality that should factor in when evaluating this stuff and I’m poor myself and am lucky to have the few filson pieces that I have so I’m not coming at this from being rich and out of touch or something.
I desperately want that damn Sherpa packer coat but I don’t think I’ll ever be able to justify it nor will I voluntarily go someplace so cold I would need it but who knows maybe there will be another sample sale at their factory and I will get lucky.
More and more made overseas. You can buy same quality from other vendors making their gear overseas, Bean, Orvis, etc.
Great vid, I love the look and feel of filson products, but for the most part I will not be buying from them again--- except for if I can find my grail jacket, which is a discontinued ranger oil cloth jacket, but you can find better priced products at the same quality elsewhere. Let's hope we get over the filson Dark Age soon.
Living in Florida and Tennessee, I only get to wear my Filson stuff about 20 times a year so I’ll never wear them out. (Picked up my virtually unused Tin Cloth Jacket for $8 at a resale shop.) Can’t believe the vests are $100 more than I paid a few years ago.)
Don't hate on Filson because of price. Ever see the prices of Canada Goose garments. Filson is a bargain compared to those
100%, Filson is mostly good value for such an epic brand.
Appreciate the transparency. Maybe a miracle will happen an filson will listen up, drop their prices and regain their following.
One can only hope!
@@CarlMurawski also, thanks for reminding me about stormy kromer. I went ahead and picked up a mackinaw cap for $49
How durable is Filson compared to Carhartt for real work wear.
What happened to their journeyman backpack? Do they still have it and is it still made in the US? I heard it was either discontinued or going overseas to be manufactured
Really appreciate the honesty that comes with experience with these products. Thank you for the alternatives as well, love Filson but some prices are avoidable 😄🙌
A lot of this stuff I wouldn't find comfortable or breathable enough to actually hike/camp and work in. Especially during the winter when staying as dry as possible is #1. Though I like the look of the heritage stuff its just too hard to beat the synthetics you get from ourdoor brands Patagonia, outdoor research, mountain hardware ect
Great review! Filson wool is indeed awesome and perfect to buy second hand when you can find it. I love my Mackinaw vest, even if I feel like an extra from Peaky Blinders sometimes. Takes some confidence to pull off the look, but you can’t beat the functionality.
Love Filson! It has gravitated to fashion icon status and the increase in price is part of that. If people are buying it as workwear and not for fashion then that is just silly. Would you jog in Balenciaga shoes? Of course not!
The lined ragg wool beanie's price is still pretty high IMO for a 50/50 Wool-Polyester blend. Patagonia offers a 70/30 blend Wool/Nylon for around the same price. I'd much rather have more wool over synthetics if possible.
You should make another video comparing other brand clothing to high price ones
On one of your older videos you recommend a digital analog converter but I can't find the video. Can you please reference the product or video. Thanks
I can assure you Grayers when it comes to flannels has nothing on Filson.. I would without hesitation purchase a Filson vintage flannel shirt at $145 over Grayers flannels with horrible quality control issues at $125 --- believe it.
Very interesting, thank you for the feedback!
@@CarlMurawski love your channel thank you.
Notice the almost complete lack of tin cloth in their catalog? No tin packer, no tin cruiser. Hasn't been in stock in over a year and a half in my size. Finally gave up and bought a tensaw jacket instead. I'll probably be happier anyway.
The Tensaw is fantastic!
I would be very willing to pay the price of some of these Filson goods, but - my biggest gripe - no long or tall sizes, or very limited selection of goods that are tall or long.
Their website shows long versions of all of the Macs, or rather it did last time I looked. I bought a 44 long single Mac at a ranch store in Wyoming a long time back, but seldom wore it because the sleeves were too long. Finally I sold it on consignment.
You should really check out the brand Anian. Really impressed with their products/pricing/quality. Canadian company putting our heritage US companies to absolute shame.
Sounds right up my alley, thank you for the recommendation!
I also love filson! But 500 dollars for a wool sweater!! LL BEAN and Orvis are very close to same quality!!
Agreed! I’ll get you’re right
Hey I actually just bought the big bills bib last week. It is sensational. I'll be passing them onto my kids. Great quality
Good to hear! Sounds like they’re a solid value
Man I think Filsons stuff looks so cool but it’s so damn expensive still that’s the brand of cloth I’m gonna by and pass down
That compact briefcase is thin, hence compact. Thats why they did away with the leather keeper
I don’t buy it. The old version have is plenty slim and I use that keeper all the time without issue. It seems more like a cost saving measure to me, but I’ve been wrong before once…
That vintage flannel is 8.5 oz so it is thicker than most.
What do you think about WeatherWool?
That mackinaw cap has way better fur than the kromer’s shearing
Wearing my cruiser while getting oil changed in range rover. Man you got it wrong…. It is an LX570 and it has been on a dirt road… once. I thought i was going to chip my ceramic coat… luckily the mobile detailer was able to buff it out. i know, i am a rebel. On a serious note, i Look forward to your review each year. Good times. Thank you. I do love the mac wool shirt jac as well as the cruiser. Both classics. Agree on the flannels. If you want a quality US made flannel look to vermont flannel company..
You are so thorough. And candid! You enunciate particularly well and even my husband who relies heavy on captioning can look away and hear you. I need to buy ladies wear and wish there were evaluations for that as well. One thing, please get manicures. With duds like yours we don’t want to see shaggy cuticules 🥰
Hahahaha thank you for the honest feedback. I'm not sure a manicure is in my immediate future, but I'll keep it in mind!
Can you tell me what size your jac shirt is and your height and weight for sizing help thanks
Stormy Kromer makes great products.
For US Made Filson stuff, I am willing to pay a premium. For they overseas stuff, no!
Non-related comment to this video, but would love to hear your thoughts and opinion on Bullhide denim company out of Alabama.
Love Filson. But prices have gotten insane. I bought a Sportsman bag about 8 years ago for about $200. It's worth that. Now it's pushing $500. For a bag you can't get 3 days worth of stuff in. The wool, made in USA stuff is probably worth 60% what they're asking. Skip all the imported stuff. Just hit LL Bean. But it you want a wool Mackinaw Cruiser to last the rest of your life, YOLO.
For that price on the handmade sweater you could buy a couple of aran handmade sweaters.
I have some of their hunting clothes that I bought around 20 years ago. They've priced their clothing well out of reach for me.
I saw a review of the wool cruiser and you can look right through it. It has a very loose weave and that is unacceptable for a 24 oz fabric in my opinion. I do not expect wool to be woven as tight as duck or cordura, but for something that heavy it's not something I'd spend 500 bucks on.
They're not loosely woven by any stretch of the imagination.
Yeah...never seen a mack cruiser I'd describe as "loose weave"...
If I'm spending that much I want the company to be like Patagonia or United by Blue where they are making an active effort to change the industry and reduce their carbon footprint. That or it's the top of the top (aka arcteryx). Filson does neither and it's not worth the money compared to other made in USA brands
I think its a pocket for clenometers
Can you do a review on tradition creek jackets?
Crazy that the 2023 Shearling vest is just shy of $1800.
Shearling is extremely expensive, the price is not unreasonable. LVH would charge $10,000 for that jacket.
Thank you for the video!
Thank you for watching!
Carl: Here’s an idea. Could you somehow snag an interview with a Filson rep to ask them some hard, pricing questions?That would be even better than this video! They need some down-to-earth feedback.
Hahaha sorry but they wont change that. Thats how capitalism works: put the prices up as high as possible till people stop buying. The Brand is now a luxury Brand with an workwear/Vintage Heritage Image. And they sell it all to the Hipsters... There almost like Harley Davidson: they sell a "Lifestyle/Dream" and it just works
Yes the filson flannels are definitely not worth it. I have 3 pendleton board shirts and 2 canyon shirts, and those are so much better than the filson flannels
100% agreed!