What Has Stranger Things Become?
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Maybe give people more time to click away :|
I think you could enjoy the show more if you didn’t over analyze it
@@leesouder242 I disagree. People need to think and view things critically, as that's what makes people want to make good shows. Nobody wants to watch a show where it is predictable and poorly written or composed.
@Taylor J. Williams this was great
@@leesouder242 I think he doesn't actually look for meaning in the show at all. He just watches it and looks at it the way you proofread a narrative assignment you're going to hand in.
Season 1: Demagorgon and Eleven
Season 2: Mind Flayer and Demadogs
Season 3: RuSSiAnS lMAo
Season 4 is the one with russians m8
Sooookaaa
"remember, no russian"
Season 3 felt like an actual fanfiction you'd see on wattpad, the story is just so absurd and has no correlation to anything else
@@polkanietzsche5016 did u watch S3? It was filled with russians
It became less of a mystery/horror and became more of a slice of life / teen comedy
It's like the writers from Riverdale took over or something.
Oh god I hope it doesn’t become like Riverdale
So sad :( I mean seriously, what happened? why'd they have to do tHAT 😔 I really loved the first season and the second season was really enjoyable too but the third one, justttttt noo
More of a mediocre slice of life / teen comedy
@@Rivenlore99 oh no don't compare stranger things to riverdale, at least stranger things has a good plot and a message
The "Scoops Ahoy" gang carried Season 3 completely. I barely remember anything else about it.
Dont forget about the USS Butterscotch. Without it Steve and Robin might not survive the Russian interrogation .
YES
What? They took up as much screen time as every other subplot. And I’m pretty sure it was completely forgotten for two of the eight episodes.
@@calvinjohnson6242 Same screentime, maybe, but a difference in the quality. Their scenes stick out to me because I liked them more.
percytheblueturtle I actually commented on the wrong comment. Funny that it fit. I was commenting on the comment about El and Mikes relationship taking up too much screen time.
Season 1: sweet innocent kids and *fake dead bodies*
Season 2: more love and *possession*
Season 3: *wHaT iS wROnG wiTh mY mAGneTs* , puberty, and hopper being an asshole
Ye .... Hopper went crazy
and joyce being cheezy af in s3
My favorite character was Hopper until the third season, wish that didn't happened, also he became an action hero for some reason at parts
Hopper was very funny in this season
@@drbuni at least he’s gonna get a mega redemption ark in season 4
Will either:
1. Announces the monster “is here”
2. Wants to play some D&D
Adventure you’re point is?
And then GIVES IT UP as if to say, "This is for children and I'm no longer a child". Which is kinda' a crappy message to give. Especially considering the adults who continue to play it and still have a fulfilling adulthood.
@@Fortecloud Basically the Bran of Stranger Things
Forte cloud when you try to sound smart but misspell a word
@@BurningFreesias that was the mindset of mike and lucas, not will. will didn't want to give up D&D, but he felt like his friends just didn't care any more and got upset.
This show deserves no mercy after what they did to one of the most interesting characters. Will was awfully underused, which even worse considering the actor is one of the best in the show!
Noah Schnapps acting is amazing in Season 2. I was so disappointed with what little they gave his character to do in Season 3. I hope that changes next Season, and the writers stop being so concerned with adding new characters every time.
You could have taken Lucas out of Season 3 completely and it wouldn't have made a single difference to the story. His little sister gets more dialogue this season. Also how can he just be gone for days and his family apparently don't notice or care?
@@leew1598 exactly, which was pretty shitty because i love Lucas. Definitely would have preferred him with Steve, Robin and Dustin instead of Erica
@@twbtsfan557 diversity. The group needed a black girl.
@@yurichtube1162 Lucas is black?
I WAS alive in the ‘80s, and as the years progressed, the outfits got louder and crazier. The mid to late ‘80s really did look like this.
Where did you live?
80s were the best, besides all the stabbings
i wish i was alive in that time period
@@hotbeans3141 I know this a late reply lol, but I don’t think the 80s were that *amazing* we hear all these awesome things about the 80s, but I feel like it depends on your experience some people’s worst years were in the 80s idk that’s just my opinion.
@@Fantastic_Stranger yeah don't worry i appreciate the response
I really wish the show would focus on the upside down a bit more again, it’s almost like it doesn’t exists anymore.
the entire 3rd season was about the russians opening a gate to the upside down...
lil toopy the entire third season was about stopping the Russians from opening the gate. So I would argue the third season focused on the gate and the fear of Russians gaining access to the upside down, not the upside down itself. The upside down is hardly mentioned, and the main villains, Billy and The Meatflayer, were already in the over world by the time the season started. Plus, the Hardly ever mention the upside down in the third season, the focus is more on the gate itself. So I personally feel like the upside down itself has been put on the back burner and has recently only been in the show to be a place for all of the monsters to come from, not necessarily the main problem, which I believe it should be. I personally would like to see a sort of investigation of the upside down, I am personally very curious of the up side down, but I’ll be satisfied if they visit it at least one more time.
Edit: fixed a typo
@@AthenaMinerva03 I agree with you, it should be the main focus, however im glad the 4th season is probably gonna focus on hopper escaping prison in Russia
lil toopy that is a plot line I’m looking forward too!
Yep.. And season four is all about saving hopper in russia. I think they're going to be focusing more on the upside down in season 5...
For me the only problems with S3 is that they did Will/Noah really dirty and that Mike and Eleven’s whole relationship was a cliche mess.
edit: i left this comment 3 years ago. i still stand by the things i said for the most part, but i think that it's important to note that mike's parents show little to no affection for one another over the course of the entire series. this obviously has its impact on his relationship with el. ofc, this isn't an excuse but it's an explanation. mixed with el's general emotional immaturity (which makes sense given what she's been through), their relationship spells DISASTER. if they were an irl couple id genuinely suggest that they take a good, long break and grow separately. i'd personally prefer for el to remain single, but that's probably just me.
Relationships are a cliche mess
I was so full of their relationship like NOBODY CARES ABOUT YALL KISSING JUST LETS KILL THE FUCKING MONSTER
Teens are a cliche mess and relationships are a cliche mess wtf did you expect
slv Teen relationships being messy doesn't change the fact that it was badly written.
yeah honestly i couldnt care less about mike and el's relationship
What has Stanger Things become?
Just Normal Things.
lmaooo
slightly oddish things
Riverdale Tingz
Just things.
Good one
Just notice the formula from Season 1-3. Basically...
1-2 Episodes: Villain intro and separate into various groups
3-4 Episodes: Have each mystery presents itself to indivual groups
5-6 Episodes: Unknowingly connect all evidence from said mystery like puzzle pieces
7-8 Episodes: Ele goes berserk against the main baddy
That's litteraly the plot of every episode WTF?
I know right? Especially when they split up without even CONTACTING the others about anything each time!
It's like y'all should've learned since season 1, that when stranger things happen, YOU ALERT ONE ANOTHER!
Instead they pretend like the rest don't exist and go on their own little adventures until the finale where everyone acts so freaking surprised when the hero comes back at the last second to rescue them before they all die.
@@lepotato135 agreed
Pretty much explains why I’m always most invested Episodes 3-6. I like ST as a mystery thriller.
El didn’t go berserk and was saved by billy and Joyce in the end of season 3 though
Steve, Dustin and Robin singlehandedly carried season 3.
Also was I the only one who thought that they were building towards some kind of tragic massacre at the 4th of July faire and was then slightly disappointed that it didn't happen?
A Skeleton Dustin and Steve were okay to me - Idk why but I don’t normally like the weird, funny characters mostly because I’m not a big fan of comedy. I like characters more whose personalities are mainly serious or smart, etc. but still has some funny lines and dynamics here and there to make the show a bit relatable rather than just characters who are always comedic even in the middle of serious life and death situations.
“Steve, Dustin and Robin”
*Erica says hello*
@Karleigh Bennett I thought the mall thing was a cover up for the flayed?
bruh, and Billy. it was stupid to introduce his character and kill him the very next season but the actor did one hell of a job.
@@b.h.thebadass8107 Bob and barb got killed in their first season, they show just hates b named people
Season 1: *WILL* , where are you??
Season 2: *WILL* , what's wrong?!?
Season 3: PRODUCT PLACEMENT
Horst von Hinten yeah because it’s and 80s mall
Are Eggos not a product? What about Coke? Tampax? Three Musketeers?
@@metalmayhem3622 Lots of products are found throughout...
@@metalmayhem3622 Yeah, but previous seasons handled product placement with more grace than this season. 11 denting the coke can in season 1 focused on her character and the powers on display. The story still continued, and the presence of the coke can was to ground you in the 80s setting. This season pauses EVERYTHING to highlight a product. It felt sickening after a while. That scene where Lucas just talks about new coke was just... cringe.
Season 3: *mAgNeTs*
None of the characters in season 3 took their situations seriously, so neither did I.
Perfectly said.
The Four Horsemen what do u mean caricatures of themselves
@@serenitybeats1677 Look up Flanderization
@@serenitybeats1677 "Flanderization is the act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Most always, the trait/action becomes completely outlandish and it becomes their defining characteristic."
cow moo thank u love
I hate that everything was about mike and el’s relationship.
Hana sm i feel like they sacrificed all the other incredible sub-plots that were possible just so they could give mileven fan accounts editing material
it literally wasn't
It wasn't.. you're just being picky at this point
Tina Love just my opinion, maybe i am being picky and ignorant.
Hana sm you’re not
The true horror is how they made Steve wear that outfit throughout the entire season.
IT KILLED ME HE ALWAHS HAD GREAT OUTFITS AND THEN BOOM SEASON 3 😩
S3 just seems like the show became too self-aware because of it's huge popularity...almost a parody of itself.
i would'nt go that far..but the duffers probably wanted to push their vision of what the show was meant to b further...an ultimate 80's homage....and with season 3,thats what they did..they dug deeper and pushed harder..to emulate what they we're looking for...u gotta understand..making one of these shows is hard work ...u cant expect perfection...sometimes creators wanna push their artistic vision..and it might not b what u were hoping for...i'm a director..i know how it can b.....listen,not everything can b breaking bad....u have to enjoy it for what it is...a fun show about kids fighting monsters......if u can't deal with that...well....there's always ozark
Yes
TETCOM haha just finished Ozarks. Glad both shows exist 🙂
Season 1 was horror with a little comedy, season 2 and 3 is comedy with a little horror
Season 2 Is a mix but season three is a comedy
ts nebula correct
@@robespierre2837 Season 2 is not scary at all, not even disturbing in the way even Season 3 sometimes could (I'm talking primarily the scenes with Billy, particularly the one with him and Heather axing off her parents, the only one in the entire season that actually felt like Season 1 in its eeriness-also, Heather's actress was hot af and that's always a plus). I mean, it tried like fuck but it _never_ once succeeded, at least not for me. I could literally hear the Duffers practically begging me on their knees to as much as flinch during the Aliens-ripping off lab shootout but I never did. Stranger Things has some of the worst jumpscares I've ever seen in film, you can see them from a mile away. I mean, was anyone even a tiny bit surprised when Bob was offed the moment _everything_ made it look like he would make out okay? Although credit where credit is due, this is the only love triangle in S2 out of three (!) they actually cheaped their way out of by murdering one of the guys involved.
@@yarpen26 what I said in my comment was that season 2 wasn't as scary as 1,but with the demodogs and mainly the mind flayer,and with will it was certainly scarier then season 3,which was like an episode of friends
Stranger Things isn't/shouldn't be scary. That's what Gaten, who plays Dustin in the show, said. It's really more interesting, and I think the directors are trying to live up to that.
I feel like Season 3 was a distorted reflection of what the writers thought people liked about the show. They amped up the 80s-ness, doubled down on the shipping aspect, included large amounts of gooey gross out imagery... and played the "russians bad" trope so straight the Washington Monument is trembling in sheer terror. And the fact that Season 4 will probably delve even further into this gets a beleaguered sigh from me. The political subtext worked best when it *was* subtext.
did you like season 4?
The first season was magical. Probably one of the best stories in the history of television.
And that's the problem: when you start with quasi-perfection, everything is going downhill afterwards.
Stranger Things is now almost entirely surfing on the strength of its wonderful characters... the third season in particular has a plot that is absurd beyond belief.
Totally agree. Season 1 of ST was magically FLAWLESS. Season 2, though not on the same level, was quite good as well. Season 3 was an absolute DISGRACE. Nothing about it felt right. Yes, some people were at awe cause of its visuals, yet in regards to plot, character development, emotional weight, and plausibility, this season was extremely poor. Still, many will continue to watch this show, and ignore a tv masterpiece like Better Call Saul.
exactly, i watched season 1 just because of how suspenseful and mysterious it was AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WILL IS, in season 2, there were at least some suspenseful and creepy moments. But in season 3, they lost the main point of the story, *The Friendship* Mike and Lucas treated Dustin and Will like shits, none of the characters had the main focus, they just showed and told us EVERYTHING without letting us figure it out WHYY!! the only moments I liked was the scoops troops funny moments, all of them coming together in the mall and joining the dots and the emotionally intense scene. They ruined Mike's character as a friend and presented Max as she doesn't care about anyone.
@@rupantihoque1059 yeah, Season 3 was truly horrible and really damaged the series as a hole
In all fairness, season 1 wasn't that unusual or anything. It was very very average.
I went expecting something very good, after hearing such great reviews about this show, but was highly disappointed.
You know what is an actually great sci fi show? Dark.
@summerisgone Wasn't there a goddamn cliffhanger in the end of season 1?
In a nutshell: it’s become more about fan service
Yessss. And it did so successfully
But the fun and horror is gone now
Sadly
Theres a general rule of thumb, the more popular something gets generally the worse it becomes. Theres always exceptions (breaking bad and such) but theyre rare.
I'm what you would call a fan and I've been less pleased with season 3 compared to the first 2 seasons.
Season 1 was more suspenseful, grounded, and mysterious. A mechanic is secretly spying on your house? A kid's body was faked? That stuff was actually really intriguing and I couldn't stop watching.
But season 3 is almost comical, the characters basically only have one trait that they express throughout the whole season. It was fun, but still, it's a complete downgrade. At least it wasn't game of thrones.
Quinten McLaughlin i love season 3 it was the best thing ever
Yea, all the characters were blatantly overexaggerated and it felt like there were no real consequences or actual mystery
i thought S3 was the best so far, at the very least the most enjoyable..
S1 was awesome and new, S2 didnt have the same impact as season 1 and had some pacing issue's (the infamous ep7)
S3 after a 2 year wait was really great and made me laugh out loud and cry (hoppers letter at the end) and unlike GOT, the year wait was satisfyng to watch :-) :-)
Season 3 was basically about making the females look good while making the guys look bad.
At least it didn't became Game of Thrones.
One of the other problems with this season is the fact that the upside down is only included in like 2 scenes
And the characters aren't physically there. It's more like mentally.
Hopper didn't become an overbearing dad he was nearly abusive spending his time drinking, yelling or just ignoring Eleven. He belittled Joyce, screamed at her and beat the shit out of almost every male character he came across. He also threatened Mike like he was just some random teen boy he didn't know. He went from someone who looked like he was learning to love to a wall-punching rage machine misogynist. I really hated what they did to him.
That was one of my biggest issues with season 3-instead of having this natural kids grow a part people change arc they wrote the characters like they didn't know each other, like they hadn't been not just through traumatic life changing event together but 2. Even Jonathan was a bit of an asshole not taking Nancy seriously and blaming her for his actions. I didn't feel like I was watching the same show from the 2 previous seasons.
I-
I never noticed this but you put it into words perfectly. You are right. The characters didn't really bond over their traumatic experiences.
I really liked season 3 but it was mostly beacuse of Steve.
Feel ya 😂 the only reason I watched it
Alexei was mine, but Steve was amazing too
and dustin
Season 2 Steve was way better than season 3 Steve in my opinion
I liked the aesthetic i mean come on it looked AMAZING
The issue is that they gloss over Will so much.
Poundchan you want him to be possessed again? Give the sweet boy the rest he needs
Ya all he did was say Can we play D&D now and touch the back of his neck.
@@DjVader112 lmao i agree no more monsters for my poor boy, HOWEVER,,,, i👏🏻 Need👏🏻 the👏🏻 will👏🏻 coming👏🏻 out👏🏻 storyline👏🏻
Will got sidelined so hard, I almost expected him to start saying She's muh queen and I dun wunt it.
Omara Oliver "no chance?" - how? Because it's HIGHLY IMPLIED from the very first episode that he is gay. Read the Montauk Bible, read the snowball scene script and then re watch the show. He's not Bi, he's not Ace/Aro and he's definitely not straight.
I guess after the first season they realized that their top fanbase are teens, so they writed the next 2 seasons accordingly.
That’s quite insulting to teenagers. We’re not stupid
@@mayowajoshua9806 Yes you are, you will realise when you are older, you will look back and think "damn i was so stupid when i was 15" it happens to everyone, and we all think we know better while we are kids/teens
Renzo Montes at least I know the past tense of write
@@renzogm6858 Doesn't matter if they're stupid, it's dumber that they decided to write down the show just because it appeals to teens
@@renzogm6858 dude, I'm 15. Even I look back at 2 months ago, and I'm like, "holy shit I was such an idiot" That's literally how fast character growth is happening for me.
My biggest problem with this season was how Mike’s character and his relationship with El was handled. I just..he feels like a complete jerk now. I get it, he’s traumatized, but so are the rest of the kids. I was so excited for some heartfelt moments between the two after everything that happened in one and two but all we got was…teen drama? Also the way he treated Dustin and especially Will felt so off to me. I liked the rest of it tho!
God you're behind.
I mean, if they give him a good arc in season 5 and address his mistakes then it’ll all be fine , in fact I think it’ll really help the show. Because kids make mistakes, and as long as they learn from them and fix them, that’s okay. If they don’t address it(tho I doubt they won’t ) then it’s wrong. Really really wrong.
I actually thought their behaviour and the teen drama was a pretty good representation of young teens growing up and having feelings for the first time, not knowing how to handle them, getting blind-sighted by their own infatuation, forgetting about their friends, growing out of favourite childhood games, friends getting jealous of new girlfriends/boyfriends, screwing up relationships, etc etc I like that despite all the serious dark stuff going on in their world, they're still realistically portrayed as kids entering puberty and the way those hormones mess with your head when that happens.
@@KarrieDreammind5 that's fair, I liked that part, it was very realistically portrayed. But the horror aspect of the season just wasn't there, I'm sorry I know a lot of people like this physical form of the mind flayer but I really didn't like it. Honestly I really liked the idea of the mind flayer being the puppet master, using others to do its bidding, it added a lot more impact to the horror aspect rather than just obnoxious horror. And to be frank, the exploding residue of the rats/ people just looked like bland chilli. Totally LOVED the friendship dynamics tho they NAILED that.
@@toogayforyourdrama4606 I don't know, everyone's dishing season 3 because it wasn't horrory enough. Maybe because I'm not really a horror fan but I rather enjoyed the fact that they were telling a story of a group of normal friends, trying to live a normal life for a change. I personally felt the horror aspect was still present enough (even though I agree the exploding insides looked like pasta sauce 😂).
I wish they went back to the mysterious horror feel they had in season one. I'm also sick of any stupid ass teen romance garbage.
Season 2 had that same tone.
Yes bro like everybody dont gotta be in a relationship shit is so forced especially wit Lucas and Max they JUST met and already a couple? Come on bro i cud maybe understand El and Mike she was like Anne Franking in his house so they formed a bond but all these new niggas dont even really have that chemistry like Dustin goes to science camp and gets a girlfriend how that sound. Poor Will has to break thru two dimensions out of the upside down and into the 4th wall just to tell the audience this shit is fucked up lhh.
@@seandafny Season 3 is like months after Season 2.
Season 1 and 2 we're amazing
And well you know about Season 3
TheKro16 ugh tell me about it
The whole Russian thing was so Cliche and Ridiculous. Kids are able to intercept and decipher Russian codes but NOT the CIA,NSA,FBI,US Army,or even Local Police?
So much for Homeland Security....SMH
Also the guard let through Murray even though he talked Russian with a strong american English accent.
I suppose one could argue that there were sleeper agents posted in the states before hand who might have picked up the accent? ^^'
Matt Dorton Probably because the signals came from Hawkins??? And the people wouldn’t find that a big deal at all? “Oh nooo Russian speaking Russian send the troops”
Nah it made sense in context
As a person whose main language is russian (no, I'm not *from* Russia) and is aware of stereotypes in American and Russian cultures, I was quite annoyed by yet another "red-commie-big bad-bastards" storyline, especially in a show like Stranger Things! It is so overdone.
Abother issue I have with Season 3 is that we almost *never* left the mall. Yeah, we saw a hospital, an office building, a 4th of July festival, a...farm-like thing where the flayed were hiding, but they were quite brief
Season 1 will always be the best. I loved the eerie horror vibe to it. The humor was on point and NOT OVERDONE, the writing was fantastic, and the dark gritty visuals really drew me in. All that was lost in the later seasons. Season 1 honestly felt like something out of A24, everything after that felt like a fan fiction
Eh, Series 1 was awesome, but I think I prefer s2 and 3.
I feel like season 3 had too many stories happening at the same time, I honestly forgot about most of them
Three things I didn't like about Season 3:
1/ Almost no tension. I was never hyped for the upcoming episode. I didn't feel anything was at stake.
2/ I wasn't buying the Russian base under Hawkins, so clean and well lighted.
3/ They turned Sheriff Hopper into a bumbling daddy making stupid faces and saying stupid things.
How tf did you not feel tension?
Secret Russian bases are supposed to be dirty and have bad lightning?
They probably have babushkas keeping the place tidy and berating officers for leaving shoe prints everywhere.
@@anwa3237 Is there ever good lightning?
Hopper looked like Homer Simpson
Fight me
An Wa not what he meant, it was just very out of nowhere
It only took 3 seasons and they're already Simpson-fied. They're not characters anymore; they're just caricatures.
They got Ned Flanders-ized.
The Unknown Doctor she plays the role of typical lesbian that Netflix adds to all their shows
Being a lesbian is just one of her character traits though. It's not like she's defined by it
@@mekki8998 yes and we know she is lesbian only since the middle of the last episode
@@squidward9747 lesbian character, even if she's not defined by her sexuality and isn't a part of who she is = bad
Season 1 was all about the mystery of its universe, while also having some good comedy.
Season 2 was a bit sillier, but seemed like a good tone to stay at for the rest of the show.
Season 3 goes full Thor Ragnarok, and not in a good way. At least in the other 2 seasons the characters seem like they’re in danger!
Thor 3 expects you to take it seriously 5% of the time, if at all.
Stranger Things Season 3 expects you to remain fully invested in every single scene.
Thor Ragnarok at the very least knew that you weren’t supposed to take it seriously.
This season expects you to take everything seriously.
I thought Thor ragnorak was also bad
@@basedrei3529 That couldn’t be further from the truth.
Thor ragnarok is shit like most of the MCU
Season 3 was good but I really miss the mystery/horror element that was front and center for the first two seasons. Really hope it comes back.
S3 was so silly and over the top at times that it felt like a completely different universe. I don't know if they can go back without it feeling jarring.
@@Nathan-tz5fr What's so silly about it?
No it wasn’t good at all
@@leeisloveleeislife5074 the entire plot really the whole thing with the Russians was over the top and made no sense and went from a horror/mystery/drama story to a teen romantic comedy
@@chrismarple There were plenty of dramatic moments in the last episodes and more than enough horror in the whole season. Teen romantic comedy was like only in the first few episodes.
My main concern was the lack mystery and dullness the show had to offer in Season 1. In the first episode we see Russians trying to open up a portal to the Upside Down and Billy getting possessed. We spend the entire rest of the season watching characters try to solve mysteries that we already know while trying to resolve seemingly harmless conflict. Plus, I loved the realistic and late autumn vibe the first season had to offer. It really blended well with the mystery horror it had. Plus, the color palette used in this season was way to vibrant and cartoony like you said
In the first season, we learn things only when the characters do. Instead of waiting for the characters to get on the phone tree.
I mean thats the mid 80s aesthetic
Karen Page I think you mean Season 3?
Karen Page yeah there was way to much waiting for the characters to catch up in season three
It might not make as much sense but I LOVED the season three aesthetic
It's a parody of itself now. That's really the biggest thing to say.
Exactly
yes, this was absolutely the most disappointing aspect of season 3.
This comment...
Is hillarious for some reason
the whole thing with the “new coke” went a little too long
It was funny, they could've had a better execution though, it felt like a straight up ad. They could've been more subtle about it. Coca Cola could have literally copied and pasted that scene into an advertisement and it would do just fine.
was clearly a self aware allegory to the series.
Berry Seinfeld yeah okay
Bruh Bruh yeah ok
I really thought season 3 would be about other kids who have abillities and were experimented on like eleven, but no, another monster plot wtf
Same im hoping that the show talks about the other numbers in season 4.
but i hope season 4 will focus on eleven's new sister. and more backstories about the characters.
Everyone was complaining about the episode of Kali so that’s probably why
There are actually comic books that focus on the lives of other children who were experimented on! I really suggest checking em out
And russians!!!! 😳😳
"I still think season 1 is a near perfect season of television" 10000% one of the greatest seasons in all of television period
Got totally robbed of an Emmy.
I thought the ending was meh honestly. The season overall was great though.
Niall Reid I agree, but I kind of like that. The season wasn't about the ending, it was about the buildup, and you almost never see that
Yes season 1 is the best
Season 3 is just a bad fanfiction and no one can convince me otherwise.
@@ethanjobson3879 , it totally did, and if the show continues the way it does, and wins down the line, it's only because the Emmy people are making up for the fact that they didn't give it the award the first time around.
In a nutshell: Don't sacrifice character for the plot.
Yeah Hopper did nothing to deserve this
Literally every problem I have with this season in one sentance. This comment is underrated
What ? Hold that thought
But also actually have a plot
Bruce J well he is alive so...
The inclusion of the mayor was so bizarre to me. Where was he with the whole Hawkins lab debacle?
One more 80s throwback (princess bride)
@@berryseinfeld6772 pretty pointless tho
I still love the show a huge amount, but I really could feel there was something different about it once I got into season 3. The thing that I noticed the most is that I was almost starting to dislike Eleven at parts, because of how much the show overused her. Thought to myself “None of the other characters seem capable or important now. What’s the point of them when Eleven can just do everything?” It annoyed me how every other characters seemed weak unless she was there, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah and she always cry and break down most of the scene. Which was sooooo unecessary and annoying
Yep so true!
Almost everyone:
Season 1: What the hell is going on?!!?
Season 2: Its not new.
Season 3: Nothing is strange anymore.
That or it's genius commentary on 80's sequels:
Season 1 / Film 1: The phenomenon
Season 2 / Film 2: Lackluster Rehash
Season 3 / Film 3: New direction, focus on dumb action, comedy
Season 4 / Film 4: The cash grab
Season 5 / Film 5: The D-list sequel with none of the original cast
BlazingOwnager
I thought the second movie was generally a better version of the first
BlazingOwnager empire strakes back
Facts
BlazingOwnager
I’m betting the Duffer brothers will listen to the feedback and edit the script.
all the characters in s3 feel like they're exemplifying just one of their traits they had before and blowing that trait up
ELECTRIFIED
So happy to see how many people agree with this exact sentence.
EXACTLY. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE SOME TEENAGE FANFIC DOUJIN DOWNGRADE OF THEMSELVES
Flanderization (a term i just learned)
You're describing flanderization. And yeah, I can totally see that.
The thing I most disliked was how they made the relationship of El and Mike the most important thing in the world. Like, I know they are teens and puberty and that stuff but it was cliche and boring after a while. Also, they had great actors like Noah or Winona and they didn't used the characters like the actors deserved.
Someone needs to take season 3 and get rid of the following:
- Mike & Eleven’s Cliché Relationship Problems
- Most of Johnathon & Nancy’s storyline because that was boring for the most part
- Mike & Lucas being a jerk to Will
- The NeverEnding Story Scene
- Get rid of all of Erica’s “cliché sassy black girl” lines
Right went from an enjoyable horror/ mystery story and also having tons of iconic moments to a boring Russian hunting love story
Oh my god I nearly HATED Erica this season, she was so annoying and forced I thought
I hate the fact they added her as a main character just because she made people laugh in season 2. Her “character” is nothing but one liners
Mike and Lukas weren’t being jerks tho
What's wrong with NeverEndingStory scene?
I’m glad you touched on how there doesn’t feel like much iconic imagery anymore? I was talking with some friends about this and I just feel the atmosphere of season 1 is unparalleled. I’ll never forget the look of the Byers house being strung up with Christmas lights and the alphabet on the wall, the look of the upside down and the portal leading to it, etc.
agreed ... other than the same characters solving the same problem they have already solved... the season felt separate from the others for sure.
So true.
Just watch the first season then. Create something yourself if they aren't entertaining you instead of crying
sandos91 “Crying?” I was just agreeing with him lmao. I still enjoyed the other seasons and I quite like the show I was just saying that the first season captured something special that hasn’t quite been captured again
Funny enough I am creating my own thing so :/ you tried
I really thought they were going to delve more into the deal with the Upside Down and the Mind Flayer this season. That's the one thing I've wanted to know more about since 1. 2 felt like a step in the right direction but 3 felt like a step back. No UD and it broke already established rules about it.
Best thing about this season? Alexei.
😭
🍒🥤
I love Alexei, but Robin was the best thing about the season
I was genuinely sad when the Terminator knockoff shot him, I almost cried lol
Smirnoff?
If there's one thing I'm happy about with Stranger Things having multiple seasons, it's the fact that Steve went from a douchebag to one of the two best characters in the show. The other being Dustin, and Steve and Dustin actually got some time to hang out and form a friendly relationship with eachother. The two best characters interacting in ways that build their characters even more.
S1: kids
S2: growing
S3: puberty
S4: Men and Women
S5: Eldery
S6 ded
Honestly genius
Season1: wHeRe Is My SoN
Season 2: WhAT IS wrOng wIth My SON
Season 3:WHY aRe My MagNeTs NOt StICkiNg to The FrIiDGe
Katie bitch xo Xo Oh god I lov e memes!
Season 4: The ultimate plot: WhY iS mY sOn NoT sTiCkInG tO mY fRiDgE
@@ap0llogetic427 LMAOOOOOO
Katie bitch xo Xo tru
Lol
Season one: who's will
Season two: we saw a little bit of will
Season three: didn't see enough of will
Season four: um he literally had four lines
Season five: one scene that's it
This hurts...I'm very fond of Will Byers' character and they really had to make him look like a a fool in Season 3! Give Noah Schnapp something good to act, please! He's a great actor!
😂
Season six: they forgot to include will
@@Messerchmitt11B The Stranger Things Version Of We Forget About Dre
Ahaha I love when the character I can deeply relate to is completely forgotten by the writers
Honestly season 3 feels like such a fever dream that sometimes I can't even process the fact that it's not just a fanfiction
I’m watching this just to hear another person complaining for 20 mins about a show. RUclips is full of em
pathetic
They ruined hopper they made him an asshole.
Also do you remember when Nancy got stuck in the upside down? Why did basically everyone forget about that?
And hopper might have jumped into the upside down.
And Alexi might have survived just pretended to be dead so he was safe and they were
it pissed me off how hopper was being so mean to mike. like, eleven would be dead if it wasn't for mike
Anna Adams and he kept them away from each other for 353 days
@@annaadams9706 nah the relationship Mike had with Eleven was unhealthy. Even Mike admits it. Plus Mike was being a little shit and showed no respect to Hopper when he tried to calmly talk to them. Hopper handeled it in his own way.
Also why would Eleven be dead without Mike? I don't remember him saving her life. The government was only trying to capture her, not kill her. And Mike never saved her from the monsters of season 1 or 2, she saved him multiple times though. So what do you mean?
@@darencolby1916 Hopper wasnt being shitty to mike because he understood how trauma bonding worked and that that was the basis of their relationship, he was shitty to mike because a.he was jealous and b.felt he owned eleven. Eleven was also being hunted by the demogorgons like everyone else, and honestly I'm not convinced Brenner would've allowed another experiment to escape just because she's expensive and useful. A decade long effort wasted? Sure. But at least there wouldn't be another special big brain angry child running around bending spoons and shit on her own free will, or potentially being taken by The Russians and being used against them. Mike found her and housed her, Mike was her second contact with another human being unrelated to the experiments (RIP Benny). Mike was more or less Eleven's will, Eleven's conscience, Eleven's reason to act, and her dictionary until she was able to at least somewhat develop her own. Eleven would've gone back with Brenner, thinking that the world was cruel and he was the only source of kindness she'd ever have, had she not met and been helped by Mike, Dustin, and Lucas. She was afraid but had no reason to try to fix anything without them.
Daren Colby unhealthy?? They were kids, maybe they had conflicts that kids have but it wasn’t unhealthy... and threatening and lying to a couple of kids is NOT handeling it “his own way”. His character arc from the previous season where he learned the importance of communicating was completely tossed and he became an asshole again for no reason.
Billy had so much potential. His story was wasted.
I hadn't actually considered that, but that could have been brilliant.
They could even keep the Max and El scenes if they were reworked.
I wouldn't say wasted but his back stories should've been more fleshed out and changed him as a character.
Ikr. There wasnt even any pay off from his situation with his dad it led nowhere
He just wanted his mommy. People are only ever evil because their dads call them pussies.
he was literally racist lmfao what the fuck
In Season 2 I was ok with it, but the tone of anxiety and unease they developed in the first season is completely dissipated by Season 3. The anxiety we felt through Nancy seemingly being stalked along with her grief over Barb's disappearance, and Joyce's determination to find Will, made the show so emotionally charged. It was so immersive. To sacrifice that tone in order to add more characters... It was a mistake.
I think production (the fantastic set of the mall, the costumes, lighting) was the best part of Season 3 but I deeply miss that unease and fear that made the show so good. The plot and tone is that of a completely different show. I wish they were able to incorporate the production value that was unique to Season 3 with the suspense and fear that was so integral to Season 1's success.
And the scene with Dustin and his girlfriend was so pointless. I literally couldn't watch the scene when they broke out in song, I skipped it completely. It was actually interesting that we didn't know if Dustin was lying about her or not and they just blatantly ruined it.
Very well said. Do you think the tone in season 4 is more similar to that of 1 and 2?
When I watched Season 2 for the first time, I did not trust Bob at all, I thought he would betray them.
Same I thought he worked for the lab
@@bonrrgd163 Imagine if they would have kept Bob alive for season 3 and then he did betray them. That would have been way better than what season 3 was.
Rest In Peace to my man bob. He was a hero.
Season 1 feels like taking place in real-world with its sense of mystery and horror. Seasons 2 and 3 feel like watching video game where characters have to fight off multiple spawning enemies until they beat the level
I found the hardest
thing the accept in this season was the underground Russian base. It was over the top
Along with a Mall that was never talked about yet it put places out of business quick like.
unless i just missed an entire episode, in the end you see the US cavalry coming thru but you don't see any of the soviets being taken away or at all. Is as if they just vanished after the portal was closed
I agree. Also, season three tried a little too hard to make the show a bit more of a comedy than it had been in seasons one and two, and those efforts mostly fell flat, IMO. Most of it's attempts at being funny just wound up being very corny and eye roll worthy.
They did such a great job making everything seem right for the time period and then made a Star Trek laser
No way! It's a total 80s reference. Ever see Spies Like Us?
Season 1 and 2: Some what well paced and paying homage
Season 3: V A P O R W A V E A E S T H E T I C, Oh and there are Russians
Something season 1 did perfectly (in my opinion) was split up the massive explanation of everything among the three regular plots. Joyce and Hopper were in charge of explaining Hawkins and the Upside Down. Mike and the gang were basically explaining who Eleven was and how she fits into everything. And Jonathan and Nancy were explaining what the Demogorgon was and how much of a threat it was. It was a great way to not give too much to the viewer and if the audience didn’t understand one of the sections as much, it didn’t take from understanding the other two. In the end, everything came together for one massive concept.
Season 1 was an homage to the 80s.
Season 3 was a parody of the 80s
Sad but true. I´ve million issues with season 3, but the one that makes me upset the most is the fact that everything was a joke this season, which doesn´t match the essence of season 1 and 2 at all. Who said that was the right approach? Netflix messed it up again.
@@mateoairaudo5535 its still way better than season 2
@@nerevarchthn6860 Respect your opinion
And that’s why Season 3 was entertaining.
It reminds me of the Rocky franchise...
Rocky 1 felt like an honest, grounded story taking place in the real world.
Rocky 4 is a wacky, over the top battle between two invincible supermen and also there's a talking robot.
The thing that made season one so powerful was how real it felt. It took the threat of a monster coming from another dimension seriously and gave us a grounded world for that threat to interact with.
Season 3 is just a collection of clichés and tropes from 80s movies. The immersiveness of the universe is gone. It may still be good, but it's no longer special.
Season 1: Most Iconic
Season 2: Strong character development.
Season 3: Most fun.
yea same
Yea I loved how they played with the characters this season
Honestly, I wouldn't even call season 3 fun. It was just cliche and... Empty for me.
@@DLxxx why tho
@@DLxxx S3 was also frustrating to watch due to how far it drops from where S1 stands. It's pathetic.
4:41 I think this did add to Eleven’s character arc. It was the big city, dark, and crime filled contrast to the loving, small town, and simple life in Hawkins. Eight was like Eleven, but she chose to live in the past - having her life revolving around killing those who wronged her. After the attempt to kill a father with children, Eleven realized that hate didn’t solve anything and only made the problem worse. She learned to forgive, and by extension, forgive Hopper and amend their problems.
I find in Stranger Things a relatively obvious coming-of-age storyline (for all stages of life). So, it’s not surprising to showcase parent child relationships, teen romance, the leaving behind of childhood activities, and early career finding.
Season 1: Mysterious horror esque teen drama
Season 2: Horror [?] ish family drama
Season 3: Fun for the whole family! Just, ignore the slurrs I guess...
Probably right about max but Billie was added to replace Steve as being an antagonist character... Steve was just too likeable.
. . .
Even when he was an asshole I never hated Steve
@@jegvids101 Probably because while the way Steve handled the situations in S1 were unjustifiable, his motivations were relatable. Jonathan took photos of Nancy in her bedroom without permission, so yeah, Steve's antagonism is understandable. And likewise, Jonathan and Nancy suddenly spending late nights together without explaining it to him would cause jealousy, even if Steve handled it the wrong way. And even his actions were egged on by a bad company he hanged around.
Compared to Billie, who never had much reason for being a jackass in situations other than "my childhood".
The thing is Steve had motivations for being an antagonist because most of his actions were justifiable, but billie is just thrown into the mix without any explanation, he’s just an asshole because the story requires him to be an asshole, I definitely feel like his character in season 2 was underwritten and that he could’ve been more layered personality wise
i love Billy too though. he was one of my favorites
Season 1 : The 80's
Season 3 : How we remember the 80's
Nah, I think the whole show is just how we remember the 80's, season three is just even MORE on the nose about it.
I agree. btw, i loved s3.
season one wasn't in the 80s lol
Marie Molina yes it was lol
Marie Molina what!? Lmao it definitely is
I will admit that it is kinda cool seeing the character grow up like how we saw the Harry Potter cast age.
Season 1: Thriller/Drama
Season 2: Mystery/Comedy
Season 3: Comedy.
I'd call Season 1 a horror/thriller with basic dramatic storytelling elements.
More like season 3:
Since it wasn't funny whatsoever
They went full Netflix.
NEVER GO FULL NETFLIX, MAN!
NEVER DO IT
GAME OVER MAN
First they Netflixed Black Mirror now they Netflixed their own Netflix show 😭
And now they'll wait until peak hype for season 4, then cancel it.
As someone with sisters (much, much older sisters) who were the age of the Stranger Things cast in those same years... the outfits are 100% accurate. I have pictures of pure 1980s fashion cringe in the form of their preteen and teen years. The only thing was Max and Eleven were more boyish than girls--even Tomboy--generally dressed. They usually would do that dorky ass side-pony tail for their hair, too.
Haha, yes, the side pony tail. Some other girls' fashion trends of the time that I remember: knotted friendship bracelets, beaded safety pins attached to one's shoe laces, 2 pairs of slouchy contrasting-color socks, one on top of the other arranged on the ankle so both colors could be seen equally... Jean mini skirts, acid or stonewash jeans with tapered-in ankles, rolled to make them tight at the bottom, exposing the lower ankle (with slouched socks), hugely oversized t-shirt, sweat shirt, or sweater, over a mini skirt, bike shorts, or stirrup pants.
well I was there at the time and to me the clothing in the show is way too over-the-top. The 80s really was the time were clothes were the least showy. it was basically people with jeans and t-shirts
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 yea its like if a show from 2049 was set in 2019 and all the characters were wearing billie-eilish-esque ridiculously oversized streetwear
LOL
And the narrator admits that we wasn't there so he's can't judge so why is he judging?
Stranger Things
Season one: 5/5
Season two: 4/5
Season three: 2/5
Imo
The whole Russian code breaking was cheesy af
I'd say
S1: 5/5
S2: 2.5/5
S3: 3/5
S1: 5/5
S2: 4/5
S3: 4/5
Idk i just loved all seasons
I say this:
S1: 4/5
S2: 3/5
S3: 5/5
This is my rating
Season 1: 4.5/5
Season 2: 6/5
Season 3: 3/5
season 1: 4.5/5
season 2: 3.5/5
season 3: 4/5
Unpopular opinion: I throughly and wholeheartedly enjoy all three seasons. Season 1 was obviously the best, but S2 and S3 were great too. I just enjoy the setting, the story, and the characters.
That is not an unpopular opinion, I didn't like season 3(my opinion), and I literally searched "stranger things 3 sucks" on Google and the only thing that came up was some Reddit posts, so no don't worry.
I loved all 3 seasons, I think it stayed fresh and exciting across all three seasons
In Season 2, I'm pretty sure Billy's purpose was to challenge Steve's popularity and to serve as his foil. Both have roots as douchey jocks, but one was slowly moving beyond that characterization, while the other was doubling down on it. You could argue the effectiveness of this, but I'm pretty sure that's what the writers were going for and it mostly worked for me.
Agreed, but they abandoned that for unnecessary fuckery.
That's what I thought as well, although they confused me a bit with their half assed attempt at fleshing his character out and humanizing him, for no reason. If he was simply a foil, they shouldn't have made the attempt to make the audience empathize with him through illustrating his past as an abused child merely lashing out. He was also far too cruel. Sociopathic even. That's not a "mean character who deep down is actually just dealing with childhood trauma" kind of character behavior. He was handled very poorly in season two, in my opinion.
@@Cristov123 yeah they really needed to humanize him a bit more like the other commenters said, or at least delve into his trauma a little more indepth, really show why he's so fucked up, cause his dad is really a huge HUGE piece of shit. Ah well.
@WinnieTheGrizzly Good way to put it, Steve the cartoony HS "Bad" guy. The one who gets pie in the face while the Nerds laugh, or the guy who pulls up the bucket at the well and goes "ANDY...YOU GOONIE!" Billy a more realistic description on douchebaggery...
Season 1: ET
Season 2: The Exorcist
Season 3: Night of the Living Dead
Season 4: The Party is stuck in a Hotel During the Winter with Demogorgons
So, essentially The Shining?
@@mc1382 Noo. An *homage* to the shinning.
I'd say season 1 was more like Poltergeist
Stranger Things: Home Alone
Season 1 was et plus jaws
Season 1 - a mystery and a miracle.
Sinister and dark enough, everything's logically connected. Beautiful start.
Season 2 - little weirder.
I think, it has saved that sinister and dark spirit, even a little. New relationships, some new characters - that's good. I just don't get why Billy would go to Hawkins from California, if he could go to a bigger city. Hawkins is described like a little town, which nobody visits, so it's quite strange.
Season 3 - a joke.
More comedy than a horror. Something is illogical - how did Russians build a huge lab under a mall?! Wouldn't it be weird if a guard with a gun was standing near a mall? Why is there this tall Russian guy, who always walks loudly?! The good thing about this is Alexei tho, but I just don't get it now.
the fuck you talking about, every mall has a guard with a gun hOw iS tHaT wEiRd
remember children dont join bandwagons if the internet says so
@@huhjanus malls will have police officers in the building but never guards with big ass guns......
are you really gonna play the illogical card on a show with mythological monsters and alternate universes
@@annahall7369 there's such a thing as realism within a fantasy show, any fantasy aspects introduced that are completely out of this world are plausible because they're FANTASY. Having a huge Russian base under a mall that kids were able to infiltrate and escape with ease??? Are you joking me? What part of a fantasy is that? We all know that these aren't fantasy aspects and something that would never happen, it's so cringe to watch.
I was actually surprised when they announced season 2. I thought season 1 was a decent self contained story.
Season 3 though seemed more like corporate took over to milk it.
that's pretty much the only thing it isnt since Netflix actually has inside rules about canceling shows on their second season since 1 theyve proven third seasons dont really bring in viewers and 2 by then everyone has asked for raise
I don't remember where but I remember reading the creators originally planned it to be self contained and that the show was going to be an anthology with each season being a new place and story. They decided to continue the story after they saw how much everyone loved the first season and characters.
i feel like at the end of s2 it felt like complete but then in s3 they just changed the whole vibe
You: alexei is a bit cartoonish...
Me: >:O
You: but i enjoyed him
Me: :)
^^ why is this me
Same
Worse character
@Alieninspace - yes
@@LyExe-cc2bm W-What??? Are you sure we're talking bout' the same guy? Alexei? The worst character? WhAt tHe fUcK
Will got Jon Snow'd this season, reduced to repeating a few lines and being a glorified extra
Let's play d&d muh queen
Sandor Clegane 😂😂😂
My least favorite character
There are so many characters now, it probably gets difficult to the writers to find something relevant for everyone to say in every scene.
@@sandorclegane3658Everyone else: uh dun wunt it
*oh my god*
I thought I was the only one who hated the new season, I'm kinda happy to see thousands of people agree with me on some stuff jeesus I was starting to feel alone
I think the reason billy was the one to be possessed by the mind Flayer was because it saw him as a good host. He’s already strong and everyone is charmed by him. There most likely was other people possessed but the mind Flayer just consumed them for size.
I'm surprised that no one talks about how Dustin literally killed the Russian doctor guy.
bobthepsychopotato04 wait seriously? when? i don’t remember
@@nat-gn3cq with the taser stick
bobthepsychopotato04 oooohhh yeah. yeah i guess that is pretty weird
It’s a taser he didn’t kill him
@@julienforletta7896 I'm pretty sure there was a visible black burn mark on the doctor's chest
Season 1: Will‘s getting kidnapped.
Season 2: Will‘s getting possessed.
Season 3: Will‘s getting ignored.
Season 4: ...?
Season 4: Will's getting [Non Existance]
LMFAO! GOOD ONE.
Will is getting his groove back
@@fellowhuman8682 The Wise's New Groove
I feel like y'all are missing the point he was supposed to be ignored since it was how he felt
They could of destroyed the portal sooner but instead "hey let's sing first!"
oh my god i hate that scene so fucking much
It was kinda cute tbh
@@zeccy337 It sounded nice but the scene was Annoying considering how intense the moment was
Season 3 was pretty great. Each season is unique and has different tones-- it's actually very creative because you get something new every time, otherwise it can get repetitive or stagnant.
Yeah ikr I don’t know why the hell so many people are hating on season 3..like bruh it’s literally the most interesting out of all the seasons and has the best cliffhangers
Like and I hate that people are calling it a parady,like what’s it got that makes it a parady exactly…humour?..yeah bc peoples expectations sometimes just mainly expect it to be all horror and no comedy
And the character development is great
Eventually we will find out that all these seasons are D&D campaigns. It’s all make believe - a never ending story.
Duuuuuuuuuuuude that kinda makes sense like it's one bad roll from the bad end
That's lazy writing. It's the same concept of Rick being in a coma in The Walking Dead.
They’ve never left Mike’s basement.
A never ending ssttooooorrrrryyyy
I- you- I uh- *inhales* wow
Season 3 felt like a gummy vitamin. Tastes good while you're eating it, leaves a weird, artificial aftertaste once you've swallowed. So many downgrades and unexplored ideas. The whole Russian base thing was just so unbelievable but I have no idea why. Like I'm totally fine believing that these kids discovered a parallel dimension of monsters in the first season but for some reason I can't believe that they actually infiltrated a Russian base, even though that's more grounded in reality. I think the overbearing father trope with Hopper was okay and kind of enjoyable, but I really didn't like how he acted with Joyce, especially since in season 2 he learned a lot about empathizing with and trusting her. The monster stuff was a lot less spooky in my opinion, just slightly more gross. Also they kept trying to pair off every single character. Like we already had eleven&mike, Lucas&max, Jonathan&Nancy, and then they wanna add Hopper&Joyce, Dustin&Susie, AND Robin&Steve (although we all know how that turned out). LIKE CHILL! They didn't explore Billy's character nearly enough which is why I didn't care about his sacrifice whatsoever. If they didn't want to give him more screentime they could have at least shown how Max felt about the whole situation and the fact that her brother might be possessed but no, she doesn't seem bothered much so why should the audience be either. I liked Will's arc in the beginning, you know, being the last kid to "grow up" in the group and having to struggle with the fact that he feels like he's being left behind, but they didn't do a ton with that. idk man, just my thoughts.
ack this is so true
\this is exactly correct, thank you for putting it into words ... all i wanted was to find a way to care about Billy from episode1, then once that wasn't happening with Max not seeming to believe that what she experienced last season doesn't?? matter?? i knew Billy was going to die.. I just wanted to be scared and wanted that anxiey of worrying about Hopper being trapped in the Underground, etc. but this was too general of a plot that dragging it out for 9 episodes made it seem anti-climatic
The reason you find the Russian base harder to believe than the Upside Down is most likely the scale. A mirror dimension is so fantastical that your brain literally cant understand the reasons why it couldn't happen. But a Russian laboratory underneath an American shopping mall during the height of the cold war? You can easily understand and comprehend the factors that make something like that possible.
I think with the Russian base it's because it's half grounded, half fantastic
Mirror dimension is just a part of this TV world - Russian bases are a part of both and you understand that in this one they don't just appear under malls and have children go in and infiltrate them
couldn't agree more
Your analysis is spot on. I was alive in the 80's and it's pretty close. I loved that decade. It was most fun for me. Great music. The annoying thing about season 4 is Hopper didn't die. I hate it when they kill off a character but wait! he's not dead. He's just a prisoner in a Soviet gulag. WTF??
The mystery at season 1 was reasonably scary, I loved how s1 had each group of friends putting the pieces together, but s2 couldn’t do that and neither could s3
Billy's fate was sort of written in stone...his name begins with B.
Barb, then Bob, then Billy. It couldn't be anyone else.
Stranger Bhings
Yep. I predicted it right after Bob's death.
Bim Bopper
Plus Benny and Brenner.
And Benny
I love how he puts “death” on the screen every time he talked about Hopper’s “death”
well it wouldn´t be the first death fake out...
something that goes unnoticed. the theme song is obviously amazing but it really only fits with season 1. It’s eerie, mysterious, kind of dark and that’s exactly how season 1 is. i feel like the intro for season 3 should’ve been stranger things in multi coloured to the track of Baba O’Riley
The seasons are very formulaic. Things are fine, things start going wrong, they need to make a plan to defeat the monster, they do it, something goes wrong, they defeat the monster, everything is okay now.
The main thing that bugs me about season 3 was how gratuitious El's leg wound was. Like it makes you physically uncomfortable watching them "operate" on her. I get that's entirely intentional, but given Stranger Things has generally been realistic with how it treats its characters as fragile human beings, the fact El could SURVIVE such a horrific "operation" on her leg and NOT bleed out felt unrealistic. She even rips the piece of the Mind Flayer out of her leg which should have realistically killed her from blood loss and trauma.
That and in the next scene she's standing and walking unaided...Until the Billy chase scene happens. THEN suddenly she's unable to walk unaided. That and her powers disappearing wasn't explained.
Maybe her powers were all subconsciously directed towards healing her leg/preventing blood loss? Either they're still working on something to do with her leg (fighting off some sort of toxin from the Mind Flayer?), or they're simply suppressed by her emotions? Either way, I agree that it is unrealistic.
it will be explained in season 4, much like the resolution of all the plots we were presented in s3
El should have died from blood loss anyway due to how heavily everybody relies on her to get things done. The other characters may do most of the investigating, but the investigation generally leads to some point where the solution is "have El do x", or they get in a situation where they need El to deus ex the fuck of them out of the monster's grasp. I think after some point, she uses her powers every single episode at least once.
Everyone was a superhuman this season. The fight at the hospital should have killed Jonathan or make him a paraplegic for the rest of his life.
Same for Steve. He got beat up for hours until unconsciousness, no way he would've been able to drive a couple of hours later.
@@FKA91 Lmao yeah, I watched this season with my friends, and we kept screaming about how Jonathan should've been paralysed after the hospital. Dude got a chair smashed on him multiple times but still walked around just fine.
I did feel a bit annoyed that El was so vitally important to standing a chance against the mind flayer. I would have like to see Will be revealed as another superhuman with maybe teleportation abilities. Maybe then he could have helped the group in a "realistic" way.
Tensai Kodai no that will superhero thing is stupid but they rely too much on el
It's hard now for the writers, they've made EL so powerful she's basically superman, they even had a little wonder-woman reference in Season 3. That's partly the reason the Matrix Reloaded was so bad, Neo was too powerful, there wasn't a single fight where he wasn't totally on top of things. From the point of view of fighting the monster Eleven the other ordinary characters without any powers bring nothing to the fight scenes.
@@leew1598 When they had that moment where El's powers weren't working anymore, I was getting excited. I had hoped that either
a.) Will might've done something superhuman as per OP's post
or
b.) El would've used a clever plan to beat the monster, allowing her to use a skill that isn't superpower-based for once.
Will is and always had been meh, for me.
I would made it where Will developed mind reading powers in s3
If anything, you could say Stranger Things captured the spirit of an 80's franchise. A near perfect first effort, followed by underwhelming and rehash-y sequels (a la Karate Kid).