Loving my Scout, but looking for something a bit more comfortable for longer journeys. Tempting, very tempting.. Fantastic very thorough review, much appreciated! Subscribed! 🍻
That's kind of why I wanted to do this video I was in same boat when researching it. I do truly feel like I'm not missing out on anything with the base model. I've already added the engine guards and the smart lean tech isnt even on my mind when I'm riding
great looking bike! You are doing an awesome job with your camera work and being in front of the camera. you are a natural. keep up the good work. cant wait to see more of your content!
Beautiful motorcycle. Love the color. I’m considering a Road Glide, but I’m taking a test ride on this model before I pull the trigger on that purchase. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
I agree totally! Looks nothing like the Road Glide! I have a Street Glide Special and NEVER liked the shark nose look on the Road Glide. But I LOVE the look of the Challenger and Pursuit. It does look different and meaner as you mentioned! I believe the Challenger or Pursuit will be my next bike after this Street Glide.
Wonderful bike. Indian really did it good with this model. For me, it was either yours or Goldwing. Took them both to test, I am 6'4" / 205 lbs. The Goldwing was my choice. My co-worker has yours and he loves it. Honda needs to bring the touch screen too. The infotainment on the Indian is superb.
I found this review after test riding the Challenger Limited and was looking for the differences between it and the base model. I think base model has plenty of bells and whistles for me. The ergonomics are great and amazing power.
Just picked up the Titanium Smoke Challenger Darkhorse this past weekend. Nice bike so far, put the extended reach seat on bike because I am 6’3… so far it was great, took it for a ride on Sunday for 150 miles. Got stuff coming for mine, I have a BMW R1250R which has a little more HP at 136 with around 120 Ft Lbs of Torque. Nice so far.
I'm loving it so far as well weather ain't been worth a damn though I did get my 500 miles on it just got to get oil change sometime in this next week or so.
I have the scout bobber rn as my first bike and love it. However I do want something a lil bigger and more comfy. I have been looking at a challenger a lot and think would be great for my 30th bday lol
War bonnet does not light up on base models. I ordered the illuminated version to add to my base. Also, modes only changes throttle response lowest in rain and quickest in sport. There is no actual power change. stay away from zombie baffles in tab slip-ons. S&S has some great new exhausts. get a Tab Cat delete. it will reduce heat on your ankle. you should rethink the speakers in the fairing the base response and clarity will greatly improve plus you grow from a 5 band eq to a 9.
Thanks mate. Great review. You have made my mind up on which will be my next Indian to buy. I had a scout and my last bike was a 2017 Vintage Dark horse. Love honest owner reviews. Also subscribed :). Can I suggest one upgrade, getting the black brake and clutch handles. I bought them for my Darkhorse and they looked great. They are after market from China though :)
I've loved it every step of the way so far will be doing a 1000 mile review soon hopefully. And gonna address a few little things but nothing that changes my over all feelings of the bike
I have owned my Hammer 8 Ball since 2011, last year we got my wife a Scout Bobber Sixty & I plan my next bike to be a Challenger. Like you said though, I will go give HD a fair shake & try a Road Glide just so I can be sure of my purchase. I love my Vic & will keep it but the Challenger will be great for longer rides when the wife & I want to go away for the weekend. As far exhaust, we put Tailgunner 357’s on her Scout & man do they sound good without blowing your ears out. Thanks for the review & I look forward to throwing a leg over one & experiencing what you felt on your first ride.
i definitely would go check out the new Harleys this year since they made a lot of changes to the road glide, i got to look at some and it would of been a lot closer of a choice but probable still would of chose Indian due to the power difference
Nice video review. Thanks for sharing. I have a 2012 harley street glide that I made it my own. I really hate to let it go so I will stay out of the Indian dealership. 😅
Just picked up the same bike. Dude, comming from a Harley its just a super smooth ride. The challenger is wicked smooth and really fun. When i saw the Titanium Smoke and compared price to a slightly used 21' DH, it was a no brainer. Just ordered some TCMT engine guards.
Yea engine guards was the first buy for me. Also they have a good looking sissy bar that comes to a point on Amazon for it that I got. Only thing I ordered and refunded was speakers for the saddlebags they were on back order for 4 months and I just got tired of waiting
@jeremyg79745 I'll check the sissybar out. I'll eventually order a advanblack tourpak. The base model is perfect base line to customize and make your own.
Bought the exact challenger. 800 miles, love my bike. I have stage 1 with mid baffle TAB exhaust, it’s perfect with music. Recommend getting Lloyd’z tune for added horsepower and it takes away 110MPH limit. Also, the Indian doesn’t light up on the base model.
I was offered 10 grand for my 2016 Road Glide Ultra with 33g miles by HarleyDavidson as a trade-in .Talk about a slap on the face . My bike is beautiful and never dropped. I always keep it in the garage. HarleyDavidson told me the used whole sale market for HD bikes is very poor . How is that possible I responded, every used bike like mine you got priced between 20 to 23 grand . Thats a hell of a markup when only paying less than half . I'm so upset that now I'm looking elsewhere for another big touring bike . I sat on a K1600 B and a Goldwing. Im 6'4 " 280 pounds, those bikes felt tiny to me . Not when i sat on the challenger limited .The challenger limited may be it. Your video was helpful, and all the others I've seen . I can't understand why I never considered Indian bikes in the past . They have so many more options, and the price for them isn't in the 50 g plus . Tomorrow, I'm taking one out for a spin . I hope all I've seen and heard about Indian bikes is true . Thanks for sharing.
Yea I left a harley dealer laughing when they told me they could get me on a bike for 27% interest. And I can assure you everything your hearing is correct Harley's had great legacy but they are falling a little behind in times and a few things. I love the bike and only thing keeping me off of it is the weather where I'm at. Plan on getting a 1000 mile review out by next month
@jeremyg79745 I took the Challenger out for a spin . Omg ! Talk about smooth . I was riding over rough roads yet the bike felt like my car smooth . My first impressions were great . The shifting of gears was smooth no roughness what's so ever . To my surprise the standard mode had some torque but when I pressed the sport mode my hands nearly came off the handle bars . I've never had my Harley do that ever. Great bike
Yea I put in sport mode and came to the first stop light and put it back in standerd. I said to myself that was a little to much. Glad you enjoyed hope you end up with one
I believe my Springfield was a 2017, and I loved it but also resented it. I traded my scout it on it and never should have. On the highway the Springfield rode as smooth as a Cadillac and it was amazing but it lacked power.
Interested I’m looking at the 2023 Springfield and challenger and will be doing test rides. Just trying to get all the pros and cons to the motorcycles. Thanks again for the great review and getting back to me
How tall are you I'm 6' 4' and have 14 inch apes on my road glide special but thinking of buying a Indian challenger just curious as to comment on not changing handle bars.
For you I'd probably change still thinking of adding 14inch rise bars on them that would raise it 6 to 10inches from stock but unsure cause the stock bars are comfy. But to answer questions I am 6ft
Suggestion... dont use the double tap feature on the windscreen. Challenger owner and the plastic piece that's on the metal threaded rod strips out after consistently using the double tap feature. 2020 Challenger owner, 45,000 miles. Came from 2017 Victory X1 Magnum. Dont get the saddle bag speakers.... go with the upgrade power band speakers in fairing. Cheaper$499 saddle bags speakers run about $1,500. Both are plug and play. Lid speakers help, but not $1,500. Power Band in fairing is an unbelievable upgrade!
Already ordered the saddle bag speakers just waiting on lids to come in. And thank for the advice of the windshield honestly I just keep it up the whole time anyway so hopefully wont ever become and issue
Good review man, these bikes have really caught my attention, seems like every review I watch people are just ecstatic about these bikes and the way they perform. The biggest issue I'm having right now is reliability and longevity. And I really question the brand knowing they're bought and owned by Polaris. I hate Polaris, I think they make junk and machines that just don't hold up to long-term. They're fun machines when they're working, but just don't hold up in the long run. Only issue I see about these Indians calling just don't know what to think about that part of it.
This is my 4th Polaris bike having 3 indians and 1 victory and I can say mechanical wise I've never had an issue with any of them even after having them for years. Only issues I've ever had was small electrical things that is pretty common to find in vehicles and they always fixed them fast and in a timely manner or it was a easy at home fix
Does your gauge housing move up & down with your hand? I was looking at a used Challenger at my local Harley dealership today. I could move the gauge housing with my hand. I'm wondering if that's common.
Bike looks badass! I can't my self to pay the Darkhorse price tag. I'm from Houston Tx... What that bike cost you you in Odessa TX? Currently ride a scout bobber.
@@jeremyg79745 for me the only thing I was wanting the Darkhorse over the base was all the black accents but the way the chrome looks on your color model is 🔥. I rather be 30k OTD door than 35k+. Looking foward to your other vids
If your wanting a tour pack the best option is to look into the indian pursuit which is the challenger but with lower fairings and trunk along with some upgrades in suspension and tech
@I'm drunk yall I see them offered, I'm just not into the lowers...I looked on the website and the king tourpack quick detach is $3900...?!?! What the hell is Indian thinking? Might as well get a Roadmaster at that point...
I believe so. Even from just looking at numbers when comparing HP, torque and everything else. The powered windshield is awesome to have as well. I feel the only thing the rode glide beats it in is after market parts are more readily available for Harley's. But the new road glide is looking nice. I've also just always had better customer service at Indian dealerships than harley dealerships.
After two years I traded mine. Too many issues. What ever Indian is paying those people to develop their hardware it’s too much. The ride command app sucks.
This must be ur first Polaris bike. U don’t need to hold down the starter button when starting. Just press and release, don’t want 2 burn up ur starter. 👍🏻 also the war bonnet on the base does not light up. Look under the fender, no wires. Lights up only on high models.
Nah it's my 4th Polaris bike I generally just tap it and hover my finger over it cause I've had a few almost start and stop yea I'm gonna order the fender head that lights up here soon.
Why do you need to waste money on speakers to annoy everyone? Wish the dealer would lower the price and take them back. I prefer a helmet with Bluetooth.
Polaris needs to stay in the atv market. Those bikes are trash and nothing short of it. Tech sucks, transmissions are geared too low, tuning options are terrible and almost no customization options from Polaris themselves. Had a pursuit for 3 days, it died 4 times the first day I was able to take it out and got my money back that night. Bought another harley and never looked back.
sounds like your just a Harley fan boy making up a story to sound edgy and cope with the fact you like a company that puts out only snooze fest bike. have had 3 Indians and one victory, and have never had to put any of them in a shop for any issues plus they always have at least 20 extra HP to there Harley "equal".
Loving my Scout, but looking for something a bit more comfortable for longer journeys. Tempting, very tempting..
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This is great. I have found no reviews of the base model. This is really helpful. Thank you.
That's kind of why I wanted to do this video I was in same boat when researching it. I do truly feel like I'm not missing out on anything with the base model. I've already added the engine guards and the smart lean tech isnt even on my mind when I'm riding
great looking bike! You are doing an awesome job with your camera work and being in front of the camera. you are a natural. keep up the good work. cant wait to see more of your content!
Beautiful motorcycle. Love the color. I’m considering a Road Glide, but I’m taking a test ride on this model before I pull the trigger on that purchase. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Great review. I have two Victory bikes. This video helps me understand why I would trade in one of my Vics. Good job with the honest review.
Great video! Very comprehensive. Thank you...🤘
I’m using your video to help convince my wife why I need to get off my Harley 😂
I agree totally! Looks nothing like the Road Glide! I have a Street Glide Special and NEVER liked the shark nose look on the Road Glide. But I LOVE the look of the Challenger and Pursuit. It does look different and meaner as you mentioned! I believe the Challenger or Pursuit will be my next bike after this Street Glide.
Wonderful bike. Indian really did it good with this model. For me, it was either yours or Goldwing. Took them both to test, I am 6'4" / 205 lbs. The Goldwing was my choice. My co-worker has yours and he loves it. Honda needs to bring the touch screen too. The infotainment on the Indian is superb.
I found this review after test riding the Challenger Limited and was looking for the differences between it and the base model. I think base model has plenty of bells and whistles for me. The ergonomics are great and amazing power.
Enjoyed meeting you. Fellow West Texan and Challenger owner.
it was great meeting you as well its nice knowing that the video does make its way around and help people make a decision. we need to ride sometime
Just picked up the Titanium Smoke Challenger Darkhorse this past weekend. Nice bike so far, put the extended reach seat on bike because I am 6’3… so far it was great, took it for a ride on Sunday for 150 miles. Got stuff coming for mine, I have a BMW R1250R which has a little more HP at 136 with around 120 Ft Lbs of Torque. Nice so far.
I'm loving it so far as well weather ain't been worth a damn though I did get my 500 miles on it just got to get oil change sometime in this next week or so.
@@jeremyg79745 - Florida allows a bit more liberty to ride when you want, providing you don’t mind shedding some water weight in the summer.. LOL
The HP and Torque number that you quoted is at the crankshaft not the rear wheel.
I have the scout bobber rn as my first bike and love it. However I do want something a lil bigger and more comfy. I have been looking at a challenger a lot and think would be great for my 30th bday lol
War bonnet does not light up on base models. I ordered the illuminated version to add to my base. Also, modes only changes throttle response lowest in rain and quickest in sport. There is no actual power change. stay away from zombie baffles in tab slip-ons. S&S has some great new exhausts. get a Tab Cat delete. it will reduce heat on your ankle. you should rethink the speakers in the fairing the base response and clarity will greatly improve plus you grow from a 5 band eq to a 9.
What's wrong with Tab w/zombie baffles?
Thanks mate. Great review. You have made my mind up on which will be my next Indian to buy. I had a scout and my last bike was a 2017 Vintage Dark horse. Love honest owner reviews. Also subscribed :). Can I suggest one upgrade, getting the black brake and clutch handles. I bought them for my Darkhorse and they looked great. They are after market from China though :)
I've loved it every step of the way so far will be doing a 1000 mile review soon hopefully. And gonna address a few little things but nothing that changes my over all feelings of the bike
Love the bike man, hope to see more
Appreciate it gonna do a 1000 miles review for sure
Headdress on the base model doesn't light up , only the darkhourse and limited
Oh didnt know that I'll definitely get it upgraded to light up for sure. Thanks
I have the same bike. The Headdress light is around $130. It's all plug and play and really easy to install.
Bad Ass ! Just picked up the 2023 Challenger Elite :)
I have owned my Hammer 8 Ball since 2011, last year we got my wife a Scout Bobber Sixty & I plan my next bike to be a Challenger. Like you said though, I will go give HD a fair shake & try a Road Glide just so I can be sure of my purchase. I love my Vic & will keep it but the Challenger will be great for longer rides when the wife & I want to go away for the weekend. As far exhaust, we put Tailgunner 357’s on her Scout & man do they sound good without blowing your ears out. Thanks for the review & I look forward to throwing a leg over one & experiencing what you felt on your first ride.
i definitely would go check out the new Harleys this year since they made a lot of changes to the road glide, i got to look at some and it would of been a lot closer of a choice but probable still would of chose Indian due to the power difference
Nice review keep up the good work
Great video Sir! 👌🏻 👍🏻 I’m thinking about buy the same one!
Loving it so far put the engine guards on and got a sissy bar coming in today at 1000 miles I'll be doing another review on it
Nice video review. Thanks for sharing. I have a 2012 harley street glide that I made it my own. I really hate to let it go so I will stay out of the Indian dealership. 😅
Give me a challenger with the old school front fender and faring of the Indian Chieftain and I would buy one tomorrow.
Just picked up the same bike. Dude, comming from a Harley its just a super smooth ride. The challenger is wicked smooth and really fun. When i saw the Titanium Smoke and compared price to a slightly used 21' DH, it was a no brainer. Just ordered some TCMT engine guards.
Yea engine guards was the first buy for me. Also they have a good looking sissy bar that comes to a point on Amazon for it that I got. Only thing I ordered and refunded was speakers for the saddlebags they were on back order for 4 months and I just got tired of waiting
@jeremyg79745 I'll check the sissybar out. I'll eventually order a advanblack tourpak. The base model is perfect base line to customize and make your own.
Bought the exact challenger. 800 miles, love my bike.
I have stage 1 with mid baffle TAB exhaust, it’s perfect with music. Recommend getting Lloyd’z tune for added horsepower and it takes away 110MPH limit.
Also, the Indian doesn’t light up on the base model.
The tab with mid baffle is exactly what I was looking at. Thanks for letting me know I was worried it was gonna be to loud glad to know its not
Doesn't tune void warranty?
@I'm drunk yall: Tab cat delete 2into1 and zombies! Loudest setup available. 45,000miles on my Chally DH! Love it. ✌️
@@paulh6101 I hear it does void coverage. You need to check with your local dealer.
I was offered 10 grand for my 2016 Road Glide Ultra with 33g miles by HarleyDavidson as a trade-in .Talk about a slap on the face . My bike is beautiful and never dropped. I always keep it in the garage. HarleyDavidson told me the used whole sale market for HD bikes is very poor . How is that possible I responded, every used bike like mine you got priced between 20 to 23 grand . Thats a hell of a markup when only paying less than half . I'm so upset that now I'm looking elsewhere for another big touring bike . I sat on a K1600 B and a Goldwing. Im 6'4 " 280 pounds, those bikes felt tiny to me . Not when i sat on the challenger limited .The challenger limited may be it. Your video was helpful, and all the others I've seen . I can't understand why I never considered Indian bikes in the past . They have so many more options, and the price for them isn't in the 50 g plus . Tomorrow, I'm taking one out for a spin . I hope all I've seen and heard about Indian bikes is true . Thanks for sharing.
Yea I left a harley dealer laughing when they told me they could get me on a bike for 27% interest. And I can assure you everything your hearing is correct Harley's had great legacy but they are falling a little behind in times and a few things. I love the bike and only thing keeping me off of it is the weather where I'm at. Plan on getting a 1000 mile review out by next month
@jeremyg79745 I took the Challenger out for a spin . Omg ! Talk about smooth . I was riding over rough roads yet the bike felt like my car smooth . My first impressions were great . The shifting of gears was smooth no roughness what's so ever . To my surprise the standard mode had some torque but when I pressed the sport mode my hands nearly came off the handle bars . I've never had my Harley do that ever. Great bike
Yea I put in sport mode and came to the first stop light and put it back in standerd. I said to myself that was a little to much. Glad you enjoyed hope you end up with one
@@jeremyg79745 me too, take care
Liked review very in-depth and your delivery is good. One suggestion is maybe a more scenic location for shoot
I was lazy and didnt wanna haul my stuff somewhere plus live in west texas ain't nothing scenic around this area lol
@@jeremyg79745 I haul oilfield equipment from Oklahoma to west Texas often so point taken on the limited scenery.
Yea I'm dead center like Odessa
Great video very informative. What year was your Springfield? How did you like that overall?
I believe my Springfield was a 2017, and I loved it but also resented it. I traded my scout it on it and never should have. On the highway the Springfield rode as smooth as a Cadillac and it was amazing but it lacked power.
Interested I’m looking at the 2023 Springfield and challenger and will be doing test rides. Just trying to get all the pros and cons to the motorcycles. Thanks again for the great review and getting back to me
I heard all heads don't light up on the front fender
How tall are you I'm 6' 4' and have 14 inch apes on my road glide special but thinking of buying a Indian challenger just curious as to comment on not changing handle bars.
For you I'd probably change still thinking of adding 14inch rise bars on them that would raise it 6 to 10inches from stock but unsure cause the stock bars are comfy. But to answer questions I am 6ft
Suggestion... dont use the double tap feature on the windscreen. Challenger owner and the plastic piece that's on the metal threaded rod strips out after consistently using the double tap feature. 2020 Challenger owner, 45,000 miles. Came from 2017 Victory X1 Magnum.
Dont get the saddle bag speakers.... go with the upgrade power band speakers in fairing. Cheaper$499 saddle bags speakers run about $1,500. Both are plug and play. Lid speakers help, but not $1,500. Power Band in fairing is an unbelievable upgrade!
Already ordered the saddle bag speakers just waiting on lids to come in. And thank for the advice of the windshield honestly I just keep it up the whole time anyway so hopefully wont ever become and issue
Good review man, these bikes have really caught my attention, seems like every review I watch people are just ecstatic about these bikes and the way they perform. The biggest issue I'm having right now is reliability and longevity. And I really question the brand knowing they're bought and owned by Polaris. I hate Polaris, I think they make junk and machines that just don't hold up to long-term. They're fun machines when they're working, but just don't hold up in the long run. Only issue I see about these Indians calling just don't know what to think about that part of it.
This is my 4th Polaris bike having 3 indians and 1 victory and I can say mechanical wise I've never had an issue with any of them even after having them for years. Only issues I've ever had was small electrical things that is pretty common to find in vehicles and they always fixed them fast and in a timely manner or it was a easy at home fix
That thing is nice
I'm gonna CAT-DELETE mine and just drill out the stock pipes....
Should sound amazing, yet not too loud.
Does your gauge housing move up & down with your hand? I was looking at a used Challenger at my local Harley dealership today. I could move the gauge housing with my hand. I'm wondering if that's common.
No that's not supposed to happen that's one thing I checked was how sturdy the cluster and dash was and its supposed to be solid
That's good to know. I'm sure that Challenger rattle like crazy on the road. Thanks for the info!
No rattle at all on road sounds like someone just broke something on that bike.
Bike looks badass! I can't my self to pay the Darkhorse price tag. I'm from Houston Tx... What that bike cost you you in Odessa TX? Currently ride a scout bobber.
After tax title and stuff it came out to just around 30k. And like I said the base model I dont feel like I'm missing anything the dark horse has.
@@jeremyg79745 for me the only thing I was wanting the Darkhorse over the base was all the black accents but the way the chrome looks on your color model is 🔥. I rather be 30k OTD door than 35k+. Looking foward to your other vids
Bad ass bike!!!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks man just added the engine guards and it's still looks amazing. When I hit 1000 miles I'll do an update review. What are you riding?
Bro Bro, congrats, it's like a Glock, go nuts Son
Excellent review...did they offer an option for a tourpack?
If your wanting a tour pack the best option is to look into the indian pursuit which is the challenger but with lower fairings and trunk along with some upgrades in suspension and tech
@I'm drunk yall I see them offered, I'm just not into the lowers...I looked on the website and the king tourpack quick detach is $3900...?!?! What the hell is Indian thinking? Might as well get a Roadmaster at that point...
I got a 21 limited and i just took those plastic things off my bags lol i wanted the solid look
You can have mines if you want i think they would still fit
Great looking bike. Do you think the Challenger is a better bike than the Road Glide?
I believe so. Even from just looking at numbers when comparing HP, torque and everything else. The powered windshield is awesome to have as well. I feel the only thing the rode glide beats it in is after market parts are more readily available for Harley's. But the new road glide is looking nice. I've also just always had better customer service at Indian dealerships than harley dealerships.
My next bike will be the Indian challenger. I love those bikes. If you need a tank bib or heat shield let me know I make the custom.
After two years I traded mine. Too many issues. What ever Indian is paying those people to develop their hardware it’s too much. The ride command app sucks.
What Victory Model Did You Have Before ?!?? After Watching A Bit Longer I Heard What Victory Bike You Had. Hmmm… 🤔 Maybe I Bought Your Hammer S. 😂
if your in odessa area and bought it from family power sports you might have. also if thats the case we need to ride sometime
No issues yet?
No sire havent had one except when I put saddle guards on it was a pain cause I had to take bags off to get them fully bolted in
That dam screw. I just tried a 23 RM the screw isn’t even centered
Where's the audio? I can hear a whisper, that's about it
Something on your end no one else has said anything and when I watch it's just fine for me to
This must be ur first Polaris bike. U don’t need to hold down the starter button when starting. Just press and release, don’t want 2 burn up ur starter. 👍🏻 also the war bonnet on the base does not light up. Look under the fender, no wires. Lights up only on high models.
Nah it's my 4th Polaris bike I generally just tap it and hover my finger over it cause I've had a few almost start and stop yea I'm gonna order the fender head that lights up here soon.
Why do you need to waste money on speakers to annoy everyone? Wish the dealer would lower the price and take them back. I prefer a helmet with Bluetooth.
Polaris needs to stay in the atv market. Those bikes are trash and nothing short of it. Tech sucks, transmissions are geared too low, tuning options are terrible and almost no customization options from Polaris themselves. Had a pursuit for 3 days, it died 4 times the first day I was able to take it out and got my money back that night. Bought another harley and never looked back.
sounds like your just a Harley fan boy making up a story to sound edgy and cope with the fact you like a company that puts out only snooze fest bike. have had 3 Indians and one victory, and have never had to put any of them in a shop for any issues plus they always have at least 20 extra HP to there Harley "equal".