One quick note i've discovered doing this- instead of pulling all the zombies around the heroes, it's much easier to just single target frostbolt them down, since they don't pull zombies with them. I just shoot down the 3-4 heroes in my GY and then the pull is MUCH easier.
Just about to mention that, I have been killing those, I also have been doing the first scarab pull with the 12 pull, that way I don't have to deal with grouping the zombies and it usually goes faster that way. (can also pull all the scarabs, PLUS use the scarab room to group the zombies ahead of time and basically not NEED ice block for the zombies since they're all RIGHT on top of each other that way. )
This guy is a genius, He is like a modernized wowhobbs on steroids. He probably pulls 200 mobs in his dreams and wakes up and thinks of a hundred ways to optimize the pull in the dungeon that doesn't even exist.
**Thank you all for watching! I highly recommend you pick up the minor movement speed boots enchant for this farm as well! If you enjoyed this video and want to see more pulls like this, BWL raiding and more, check out the stream and discord below!!** Twitch - twitch.tv/arlaeus Discord - discord.gg/M97FQtF Twitter - twitter.com/arlaeus
I didn't know about the dead heroes, plus the minor speed boost has helped tremendously. I am basically pre-bis frost lvl 60 mage and I still find it tough at times to nova out of my IB and survive. I think with the bigger pulls such as this, the LIP or thornling seeds will do me wonders. Thanks
little tip you might not of known that ive been doing since launch in ZF gy area, if you quickly go into that bosses room and activate his emote THEN bug out on thew wall, EVERY zombie in the GY will not aggro you when you open them, and instead go to the boss area THEN come to you. gives you a load more time and less chance of dying
Yup! Thank you, and that's what I used to do! Unfortunately when you do a pull like this where you're activating all of the mobs then trying to agro them, you can take a lot of damage if they're clumped up like this. I find that when they're not clumped and just on the graves I take much less damage.
@@arlaeus9491 I'm in mara as we speak. What im doing is clearing the dungeon then going back and memorizing the route lol I'll keep you posted! Fingers crossed I can get it done 1 pull mara by tonight haha
Arlaeus is amazing. Has taught me how to farm like the pro farmers. Played mage as 1st class in original vanilla and have played for many years across different platforms of wow (Ps+retail).I have done crazy things like solo kite bosses and dragons but now have started farming in new ways. Did the original aoe farms in WPL etc but the new ones farming scores of elites in dungeons take the cake. Its incredible to have experience and have someone keep adding to that
My mage is 55 almost 56. Doing strictly GY farming at the moment. I'll have to see about working the bugs into the farm too. Good to know about their loot table.
Arlaeus is the most helpful content creator in classic. I just got diagnosed with COVID-19 so I am pumped to have free time to level a mage and try this grind while quarantined.
bro you are an insane mage... people watch these videos and think will go there and do what you do, creating mages to do so... tssss... keep up excellent work!!
Also a note for the end, if you did solo mage runs from 44, then the last part shouldnt be a big problem, worst case have a mana pot ready and just stall with rank 1 CoC, or evo. Great vid!
Thanks for the quality content Ogh. I've learned so much from you. Please keep the videos coming! Came here to say that I've noticed the heroes have much less hp than the other zombies. Other comments have suggested single targeting them down before the pull. Great idea! I do wonder, though, if it would be faster to just pull the whole room and aoe them down until the heroes die then grab scarabs and take everything to the front. Either way, avoiding the RNG scuffiness is key to this and I'm glad there are methods we can use to overcome.
Thank you Frank, I really appreciate it!! So i think the only issue with that strategy is how close the mobs may be to you when you get started. I'm not sure if you'll have time to agro up all the scarabs before they can get to you. I like where you're thinking though!
To avoid that half of the mobs evade ur frostnova i would recommend to tell ur boosties to wait outside until the mobs are in the nova. Its kinda random if they evade it or not but it saves ur time for sure.
Awsome work, totally sick. I salute you for putting in the time to figure this out. What you also can do, if you feel ballsy. Is if you have a second account, you can take agro with another toon of yours and leave IB -> nova. I will def try that with my mage & priest combo.
i'm planning on using pala alt to BoP my mage when doing the IB pull ^^ (Note: any other pala alt lvlers, make sure to use shield on pala before BoP to mage then no aggro leaves)
What I do to not use a LIP is when I ice block I have my alt mage in the group. When I ice block I alt tab to my alt mage and blizzard. They'll start aggroing to my alt mage and I just cancel ice block then frost nova. I can blink away then start my rotation on my 60 mage. Or just let a mage in my group for free. Either way works tbh.
Another way to kill the scarabs 100% alone is to kill the 1 dude patroling between scarabs and GY. You can then easily and safe lure the scarabs back to the GY and jump up on the regular wall and take em down there. Jump up from the left side of boss then the mobs wont teleport away. Figured it out myself :)
Do more videos of this! Where you boost and killing heroes with frostbolt as the comment said :) Btw, to avoid LIP, you could ask a boosted-mage/warlock/hunter etc to do a channeling aoe, for example Blizzard on you, before you leave IB, and then just cancel aura and nova!
When are you going to do A whole video on 1 to 60 and what levels you recommend for alliance dungeons and such? Love your videos man, keep em coming! Thank you so much for the help also
Of course, thank you for watching @Sam! For alliance specific or overall? I have to level an alliance toon first if it's for the alliance, but I'm hoping to do that at some point in the near future! Works been very busy recently so I haven't much free time, but I'm hoping I'll have more in March to pump out a lot of content!
I'm following the same path with ice barrier and mana shield on for the gather portion, and the zombies eat through both shields and i get down to about 60% before the beattles. It seemed okay yesterday, but today it just seems like the zombies have 10 yard arms that punch from far away!! Do you have any suggestions on perfecting the initial round up? I kill all the red colored zombies with fireball, scorch fireblast - so aggroing other mobs never happens. I just slop at the initial pull for some reason..
Hi @Mitch! That is weakauras combined with a weakauras script that you can grab from googling "wow classic weakauras script for instance lockouts" and you'll find a bunch and can pick the one you like!
You run the risk of slow falling into extra mobs, but you can certainly do this if you'd like! jumping down in the middle though is very easy and you only lose like 4% health :)
Hey. You can bug the graves by pulling the Boss at the graves. Then you reset. If you now open the graves, Mobs will run to the Boss first so you have more time to save pull and maybe do it in 1 try. Greetz
Yup thank you! The difficult part about that is that the mobs are then stacked and if you get too close will all hit you at once, rather than taking less damage while running through agroing them all
Another comment after watching more of the vid: the Love Fool item from Love is in the Air works like the target dummy! But it has a limited duration after the holiday
Work is busy, haven't had time to play so I let my sub run out, but this is holding me over until I can sub again! Hugs from rainy Sweden, keep making these videos!
Yup that's the only reason! You can definitely speed it up with the scarab area. I do it in the start solely so that the people getting boosted don't have to move :)
Yes! I am not home right now so I can’t get you the link, but there’s a card at that point of the video which links to the video with the talent tree! I can also get it for you later if you’d like when I’m back at my computer!
Excelent vid! A couple of questions though.. Q: What level to enter ZF? Is it the same as SM or will we still be doing SM boosts to bridge the gap? Q: If the Dead Heroes don't chain aggro from the zombies, couldn't you just kill them before you start pulling? They have very little HP. Q: Could you pull a Shadowcaster or two as you're running past, say the two that are channelling a spell around the square thingy, for regen if you're in regen spec? So glad to have you posting to youtube, looking forward to more!
Thank you man! 1) I believe that it's lv 30 to enter. SM is a faster boost than ZF, so i'd recommend SM till 40. 2) Yes, 100%! I honestly didn't even think about that, but I 100% should have! 3) Yes, you can do that as well!! Thank you for watching :)
I'm often having issues with the Zombies crazy range of leeway. Taking into account the difference with scarabs? Truly crazy. The LIP potion seems like really logical choice. Still I salute you for figuring it all out. My question is why do you take Elemental Precision talent? Unless you plan to do any content on your level and only focus on low level farm the spell hit is not really necessary nor useful to my knowledge?
Why not reset after the first pull when only the shadow casters are left. Pull (some) of them when you bring the scarabs and zombies to keep your mana up? 2-3 casters would easily fix the mana issues, right? if you have the resist/regen spec 3 casters would = ~15% mana regen every 3 seconds or so...
Hey arlaeus nice videos u got! Wondering if i get more then 3 witch doctors that can be pulled what shall i do? Reset instance is not an option. Just doing smaller pulls?
Ya so what I've found is that wowhead isn't completely accurate. People told me they have in the comments. I was very surprised, but it appears that wowhead was missing a lot of items that others have received.
Hey i'm a big fan of your videos, can you show an example of how you would do this pull with your favorite flamestrike build? I could use some tips with that build and this pull. Thank you so much!
Hey, would you mind linking the talent spec you use for Flamestrike build? The one in the description is just the resist spec that you use in the video, but don't recommend. Thanks!
Hey thanks for the great video! Wanted to ask about that addon right above you action bars, the one that tracks instance lockouts..... whats that one called?
Thank you Chase! That is weakauras combined with a script to track instances. If you google "weak auras script to track instance lockout" you'll find it!
Hi! It's a combination of weakauras and a weakauras script. Weakauras is the addon and if you google "wow classic weakauras script for instance lockouts" you'll find a bunch of different ones you can import into the addon!
How do you do this without ice block there when boosting? Do you just fight them somewhere else? Obviously can’t ice block at the entrance when carryingz
@@arlaeus9491 i'm trying this method for some time now. In 3 of 5 attemps, 1-4 mobs run away from ice block directly to the peoples. i'm checking everey range, its no difference.
Hi Ivan! That is a combination of weak auras and a weak auras script to track your instances. If you google "weak auras script for wow class instance lockout" you'll be able to find a bunch and you can pick the one you like!
I have the improved CoC talent, but I think I mess up aiming it well in big polls. It looks super easy and consistent in your videos, even when you're doing it in passing. How do you make your CoC angle so good and consistent?
Hi Ashley! Practice practice practice and you'll get the feel down :). Ultimately, once you get a feel for your leeway range with your character you can use it in your favor as opposed to against you. Another thing that may help in the mean time is jumping, but I wouldn't rely on that in the long term as it could potentially cause some lack of movement issues.
Thanks for the vid! That initial pull is brutal if you don't have Magic Absorption. I go oom every time. How did you do that with the Flamestrike talents?
Hey B C! So on that initial pull you shouldn't be losing any mana really prior to the pull while agroing the mobs, so once you have them into position it's just about doing DPS. What I would do is come out of block and go for a flamestrike shatter combo on all the mobs, Kill totems, but outside of that cone of cold kite until nova is up and then do it again. At that point the mobs should be close to dead and you can aoe them down. Once the melee (with doctor + blood drinkers) are down, you can go ahead and evocate and move onto the shadowcasters, as you won't need evocate on the last pull with this spec!
Thank you man, I appreciate it!! I'm going to be releasing an addon video in March that goes over all of my addons! In the meantime, that is the loot appraiser addon. In order for that addon to work you'll need the addon TSM as well.
Thank you ZRM!! I think it really depends on your servers prices and how much people pay for boosting! Most of the time I'd say Mara, with BRD being a close second.
Arlaeus And what abou the solo runs? I mean sometimes it’s pretty annoying to boost people, especially in ZF, maybe you can’t have a full group everytime, you know what I mean?:D so i suppose ZF is a good run to solo farm or which one is the best?
Mr arlaeus, I'm not doubting your claim but can you confirm your statement about scarabs dropping freezing band and edgemasters? I've had 2 underworld bands drop off scarabs but never seen an edgemaster or freezing band.
I can't personally confirm it, but when I made my ZF vs Mara video the other week people were commenting how they've seen both. Due to the quantity of people saying that they've seen edgemasters I would believe it's true. Wowheads loot table isn't great though, so I'm not 100% on it.
Are you able to loot the graves after pulling all the mobs to the entrance, without them despawning? The cloth/greens/golden tusks are really worthwhile imo. Great guide! I too struggled to get my alt to the GY in one piece.
Thank you Delusa!! Likely not with the boosting as you would have to run all the way back to the end. What you could potentially do is open up the graves slower and double click every grave to loot it as you go. If you open them in say 5 rotations instead of two you could likely loot all the graves as well!
Hey Arlaeus. Could you do an update on this one for TBC Post-Aoe cap. I know you did one for the typical blizzard jump back n forth spot but is it still possible to do this “pull to start” strategy. Thanks for all your guides. You da best!
Hey @Dustin! Yes, this is around 70k xp/hr roughly! Mara is definitely a bit harder, but this is likely more manageable for a lot of people, and doesn't require running over to desolace, so it's very person dependent!
Great video, been using this method for 7 hours today boosting my alt. I have one problem tho, sometimes when I run back towards the entrance with the Zombies, they despawn when I jump to the place where you can go for an Evo/Bandage. As in, they just disappear and teleport back to the GY. Do you know why that is? Happened 5-6 times out of however many runs I did in those 7 hours, and it's just annoying that you have to run back and redo.
+Arlaeus My LootAppraiser keeps resetting? Like it's installed - but unless I do a /la at the beginning, it's not counting anything. So if I start it up say 5 min into my farming - it starts from then on, it never collected the data from the beginning or the drops etc. Is there a setting I am missing? Yours seem to be counting even when you have clicked it away.
If you get a bunch of dead heroes why not start the pull like you're doing the ledge jump solo farm and aoe til the heroes die (they're non-elite with less hp) then reset?
There is a mara orange/purple pull thats also really good, and it picks up the rare mob so you can get some more gold by selling his loot to your boosts too, maybe check that one out
@@sepfirem there's a much better method for maraudon without sceptre. probably 2-3k more xp for the group, and the runs are faster. www.twitch.tv/videos/556007139?t=02h06m49s
Sorry, but im from brazil playing on faerlina and my ping is around 150, i cant do this (any group do mobs) , seems the mobs are attacking me at 10 meters, any tips for this? or im so bad?
I wouldn't recommend it as you could potentially run into other mobs. You could try though! I find that I'm only losing around 4% of my health when I jump onto the correct hill. Definitely try it though and see what works for you!!
I'm in the practice of jumping before Blink. It seems to help avoid those times the blink goes nowhere. Is that just in my head or do others find it helps?
It depends on how good the mage is that's pulling. It's the same xp or maybe slightly more than the half pull that some do in Maraudon. It's not as much though as the full Maraudon pull. That's some huge xp!
Why wouldnt it work with a dead hero? what do they do? so is this worth doing fro Boosting people? since u have to use a Lip every run and u will lose money?
Btw the beginnining is really hard and scuffed to do, does it work like 100% now is it reliable? I use FS + CoC btw, also at the GY, is there a reason why u don't aggro the boss? the mobs will run away first so u hv more time to open GYs?
@@oGhullio Yup to both! So you just want to make sure you don't pull more than 2 witch doctors. You limit your mobs there a bit for an easier kill at the end!
If you add in boosting yes, but alone it would be based on a drop by drop basis. Given the recent patch release and the adjustment to prices of some items that drop in DME, I would currently say that on a 1:1 with no powerleveling basis, DME would be better.
@@arlaeus9491 I spawn all the zombies without even breaking my icebarrier. I trigger the boss, then i spawn all the zombies from the area where you enter GY, as i run towards the small stairs of the bossrom i freeze them in place, at this point most of them are heading towards the boss and not focusing me yet. then when they are frozen i click the graves as you do in your video, but i reset them between the vases you see in front of you at 7:04. Then i click the rest of the graves and blink forward to the reset spot next to boss. The zombies dont get stuck in the walls anymore and several run out to the graves again, then i carefully pull a zombie and let that one chain pull the others, with good tactic i dont even go below 100% hp, my shield absorbs the few hits i take.
@@ekinorak Oh dang you changed your original message haha. So I don't spawn the boss because they all group up really tightly then and hit you for more damage. By not spawning them, you take less damage from the group as a whole running through to agro them up. That being said, if you don't have your 100% mount it's a great way to handle all of the mobs!
Please help, someone explain to me to understand. I'm in PAGLE SERVER and zombie mobs have a minimum of 7000 to 9000 of healt. I don't understand why is that?
@@jonalkon9639 Thank you man!! Also, I didn't think about one thing, but you can kill the dead heroes before doing the pull so you don't need to worry about them!
One quick note i've discovered doing this- instead of pulling all the zombies around the heroes, it's much easier to just single target frostbolt them down, since they don't pull zombies with them. I just shoot down the 3-4 heroes in my GY and then the pull is MUCH easier.
Oh dang that is a fantastic point!!!! I wish I could pin two posts! Great call man!
Just about to mention that, I have been killing those, I also have been doing the first scarab pull with the 12 pull, that way I don't have to deal with grouping the zombies and it usually goes faster that way. (can also pull all the scarabs, PLUS use the scarab room to group the zombies ahead of time and basically not NEED ice block for the zombies since they're all RIGHT on top of each other that way. )
@@nimh1515 Nice man glad you found a good method for yourself!! Are you still bringing them to the front of the instance?
@@arlaeus9491 Yeah, however instead of doing lips i'm just doing the dm seeds on the pull, since it takes about 15 minutes a run anyways.
and have the nooobs target the totems and kill them
This guy is a genius, He is like a modernized wowhobbs on steroids. He probably pulls 200 mobs in his dreams and wakes up and thinks of a hundred ways to optimize the pull in the dungeon that doesn't even exist.
**Thank you all for watching! I highly recommend you pick up the minor movement speed boots enchant for this farm as well! If you enjoyed this video and want to see more pulls like this, BWL raiding and more, check out the stream and discord below!!**
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Arlaeus thanks for the video! What level is good for the alts to come in here and get exp?!
@@Beaurivageify 35+, but i'd recommend 40!
You love your SM farms so much you said that in the intro lmao, much love keep up the great vids!
Wait.. no way... did I really? I legitimately watched this over and over and never caught it hahaha
When i heard, it made me smile since iv watched all your SM farms and iv tried them all to great success!
Hahaha dang man. Well thank you so much, I really appreciate it :)
I didn't know about the dead heroes, plus the minor speed boost has helped tremendously. I am basically pre-bis frost lvl 60 mage and I still find it tough at times to nova out of my IB and survive. I think with the bigger pulls such as this, the LIP or thornling seeds will do me wonders. Thanks
No problem Jon, I hope it helps!!
little tip you might not of known that ive been doing since launch in ZF gy area, if you quickly go into that bosses room and activate his emote THEN bug out on thew wall, EVERY zombie in the GY will not aggro you when you open them, and instead go to the boss area THEN come to you. gives you a load more time and less chance of dying
Yup! Thank you, and that's what I used to do! Unfortunately when you do a pull like this where you're activating all of the mobs then trying to agro them, you can take a lot of damage if they're clumped up like this. I find that when they're not clumped and just on the graves I take much less damage.
@@arlaeus9491 I'm in mara as we speak. What im doing is clearing the dungeon then going back and memorizing the route lol I'll keep you posted! Fingers crossed I can get it done 1 pull mara by tonight haha
@@Edealist Very nice man!!! Keep it up you got this!!
Thanks for making all the quality content! I just started a mage lol.
Thank you @EpicMangina! Heck ya, welcome to the crew! It's a ton of fun :)
Arlaeus is amazing. Has taught me how to farm like the pro farmers. Played mage as 1st class in original vanilla and have played for many years across different platforms of wow (Ps+retail).I have done crazy things like solo kite bosses and dragons but now have started farming in new ways. Did the original aoe farms in WPL etc but the new ones farming scores of elites in dungeons take the cake. Its incredible to have experience and have someone keep adding to that
dont even play mage, still watch all these because I love watching all the new stuff people are finding in classic!
Thank you @Kittensinabox!! I really appreciate it :)
You can kill all the fallen heroes first in the GY, they won't aggro the zombies so you can clean that up pre-pull and not worry
My mage is 55 almost 56. Doing strictly GY farming at the moment. I'll have to see about working the bugs into the farm too. Good to know about their loot table.
Good luck man! Hope some good drops happen! :)
This is just insane. Thank you for your content, my favorite channel now. Gonna watch all the videos :)
Arlaeus is the most helpful content creator in classic. I just got diagnosed with COVID-19 so I am pumped to have free time to level a mage and try this grind while quarantined.
I'm sorry to hear that Matt! I hope that you get well quickly! Thank you for the compliment :)
@@arlaeus9491 he is probably happy he go it lol :D
bro you are an insane mage... people watch these videos and think will go there and do what you do, creating mages to do so... tssss... keep up excellent work!!
Thank you Adnreas!
Also a note for the end, if you did solo mage runs from 44, then the last part shouldnt be a big problem, worst case have a mana pot ready and just stall with rank 1 CoC, or evo. Great vid!
Thank you man!
Great video! Looking forward to the future video about add-ons! Gonna try loot appraiser tonight
Thank you @leiflala!!!
Thanks for the quality content Ogh. I've learned so much from you. Please keep the videos coming!
Came here to say that I've noticed the heroes have much less hp than the other zombies. Other comments have suggested single targeting them down before the pull. Great idea! I do wonder, though, if it would be faster to just pull the whole room and aoe them down until the heroes die then grab scarabs and take everything to the front. Either way, avoiding the RNG scuffiness is key to this and I'm glad there are methods we can use to overcome.
Thank you Frank, I really appreciate it!! So i think the only issue with that strategy is how close the mobs may be to you when you get started. I'm not sure if you'll have time to agro up all the scarabs before they can get to you. I like where you're thinking though!
To avoid that half of the mobs evade ur frostnova i would recommend to tell ur boosties to wait outside until the mobs are in the nova. Its kinda random if they evade it or not but it saves ur time for sure.
I'd like to see a method that you could do with a levelling mage helping with slows and stuff.
You could probably agro the whole instance ;) haha I can try to make one!
Awsome work, totally sick. I salute you for putting in the time to figure this out. What you also can do, if you feel ballsy. Is if you have a second account, you can take agro with another toon of yours and leave IB -> nova. I will def try that with my mage & priest combo.
Thank you very much :).
Yes!!! Do it espen you definitely can pull it off!
i'm planning on using pala alt to BoP my mage when doing the IB pull ^^ (Note: any other pala alt lvlers, make sure to use shield on pala before BoP to mage then no aggro leaves)
What I do to not use a LIP is when I ice block I have my alt mage in the group. When I ice block I alt tab to my alt mage and blizzard. They'll start aggroing to my alt mage and I just cancel ice block then frost nova. I can blink away then start my rotation on my 60 mage. Or just let a mage in my group for free. Either way works tbh.
Yes!! That is a great strategy!
Another way to kill the scarabs 100% alone is to kill the 1 dude patroling between scarabs and GY. You can then easily and safe lure the scarabs back to the GY and jump up on the regular wall and take em down there. Jump up from the left side of boss then the mobs wont teleport away.
Figured it out myself :)
Do more videos of this! Where you boost and killing heroes with frostbolt as the comment said :) Btw, to avoid LIP, you could ask a boosted-mage/warlock/hunter etc to do a channeling aoe, for example Blizzard on you, before you leave IB, and then just cancel aura and nova!
Yes that is a great strat to keep them off you! You want more videos of this particular farm??
@@arlaeus9491 Yep! This ZF power levling / goldmaking farm! Enjoyed it, keep up the good work :)
When are you going to do A whole video on 1 to 60 and what levels you recommend for alliance dungeons and such? Love your videos man, keep em coming! Thank you so much for the help also
Of course, thank you for watching @Sam! For alliance specific or overall? I have to level an alliance toon first if it's for the alliance, but I'm hoping to do that at some point in the near future! Works been very busy recently so I haven't much free time, but I'm hoping I'll have more in March to pump out a lot of content!
I'm following the same path with ice barrier and mana shield on for the gather portion, and the zombies eat through both shields and i get down to about 60% before the beattles. It seemed okay yesterday, but today it just seems like the zombies have 10 yard arms that punch from far away!!
Do you have any suggestions on perfecting the initial round up? I kill all the red colored zombies with fireball, scorch fireblast - so aggroing other mobs never happens. I just slop at the initial pull for some reason..
Hahah those long arms are brutal! It's about not running too close to the mobs, but just close enough!
What is that add on above your buttons that tells you how many instances you were in and can go in?
Hi @Mitch! That is weakauras combined with a weakauras script that you can grab from googling "wow classic weakauras script for instance lockouts" and you'll find a bunch and can pick the one you like!
@@arlaeus9491 thank you very much bud.. hey has anyone ever told you that you look like Patton Oswald from king of queens? :)
@@TheRealMaxPowers Hahaha I have never been told that, but I'm about to look them up!
How about using Slow fall when you jump down? Doesn't that solve all the problems with jumping down?
You run the risk of slow falling into extra mobs, but you can certainly do this if you'd like! jumping down in the middle though is very easy and you only lose like 4% health :)
Hey, what was the add on you used to see how many mobs you killed in a pull? Thanks !
Hi it's called Killtrack! I have an addon video too if you want to see it!
i got 2 freezeing bands from 10 hours of farming my day soooo good
... >.> ... can i get your luck please?? Haha that's awesome man, congratulations!!
Hey.
You can bug the graves by pulling the Boss at the graves.
Then you reset.
If you now open the graves, Mobs will run to the Boss first so you have more time to save pull and maybe do it in 1 try.
Greetz
Yup thank you! The difficult part about that is that the mobs are then stacked and if you get too close will all hit you at once, rather than taking less damage while running through agroing them all
@@arlaeus9491 yeah kinda personal preference.
You can frostnova them if you need to.
Arleus, as for July, what do you think about this boost compared to others?
Another comment after watching more of the vid: the Love Fool item from Love is in the Air works like the target dummy! But it has a limited duration after the holiday
Ooh that's a great call I didn't even think about that! Thank you Ashley!
Work is busy, haven't had time to play so I let my sub run out, but this is holding me over until I can sub again! Hugs from rainy Sweden, keep making these videos!
Thank you Ennie!! I appreciate it :)
Is the only reason you pull them back to the start of the zone for boosting? IB and kite in scarab area might speed up the run.
Yup that's the only reason! You can definitely speed it up with the scarab area. I do it in the start solely so that the people getting boosted don't have to move :)
You were talking about the Flamestrike CoC build. do you have a link to that spec?
Yes! I am not home right now so I can’t get you the link, but there’s a card at that point of the video which links to the video with the talent tree! I can also get it for you later if you’d like when I’m back at my computer!
@@arlaeus9491 No need to. Found it. thanks for the quick Answer.
Great! Thanks Lucas!
Excelent vid! A couple of questions though..
Q: What level to enter ZF? Is it the same as SM or will we still be doing SM boosts to bridge the gap?
Q: If the Dead Heroes don't chain aggro from the zombies, couldn't you just kill them before you start pulling? They have very little HP.
Q: Could you pull a Shadowcaster or two as you're running past, say the two that are channelling a spell around the square thingy, for regen if you're in regen spec?
So glad to have you posting to youtube, looking forward to more!
Thank you man!
1) I believe that it's lv 30 to enter. SM is a faster boost than ZF, so i'd recommend SM till 40.
2) Yes, 100%! I honestly didn't even think about that, but I 100% should have!
3) Yes, you can do that as well!!
Thank you for watching :)
35 minimum to zone in
The king of Magefarms! :D damn nice man
Thank you man!! :)
cant clear the first part with the flame/coc spec not enough mana to burn them down, i could do it easily with the resist spec though
How many witch doctors were you pulling?
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@@Zbomb96 Interesting. Did you try to just use cone of cold and flamestrike?
You can see how many mobs you killed on Details if you change it to Frags, it also shows how many of each mob you killed.
if they are ( -> you move like that never trough the mobs! thats whats killing you. you cant move trough the mobs. change your iceblock position.
Hey Arlaeus your vis are pretty cool. How can you see enemy hp numbers in their nameplates? whats the addon?
modern target frame
@@arlaeus9491 Thanks man!
Instead of using the lip do you think a thornling would work at that exact point to get away ? Cheaper alternative
Yup I discuss that as an option at the end of the video during my tips and tricks part :). Good call man!
Ok im.a butt head I commented this right at the point you were talking about the lip 2 more minutes I had my answer haha
Hahaha no problem!! You and I are just thinking the same way! :P
I'm often having issues with the Zombies crazy range of leeway. Taking into account the difference with scarabs? Truly crazy. The LIP potion seems like really logical choice. Still I salute you for figuring it all out.
My question is why do you take Elemental Precision talent? Unless you plan to do any content on your level and only focus on low level farm the spell hit is not really necessary nor useful to my knowledge?
I use the specs for various farms, but you don't need it if you're just doing ZF! Glad it's helping you :)
Wow really great videos coming from you! Keep up the great work!
Thank you Samuel I appreciate it!!
Why not reset after the first pull when only the shadow casters are left. Pull (some) of them when you bring the scarabs and zombies to keep your mana up? 2-3 casters would easily fix the mana issues, right? if you have the resist/regen spec 3 casters would = ~15% mana regen every 3 seconds or so...
Hey arlaeus nice videos u got! Wondering if i get more then 3 witch doctors that can be pulled what shall i do? Reset instance is not an option. Just doing smaller pulls?
Where do you have info on edgemasters dropping off the scarabs? I don't doubt you but I don't see them on classic wowhead.
Ya so what I've found is that wowhead isn't completely accurate. People told me they have in the comments. I was very surprised, but it appears that wowhead was missing a lot of items that others have received.
Do you need to clear that starting area? Is that just so you have space when you get the gy and scarabs?
Hey i'm a big fan of your videos, can you show an example of how you would do this pull with your favorite flamestrike build? I could use some tips with that build and this pull. Thank you so much!
Hey, would you mind linking the talent spec you use for Flamestrike build? The one in the description is just the resist spec that you use in the video, but don't recommend. Thanks!
Hey thank you for letting me know! I went through and updated that description :). Here's the link!
bit.ly/3210ziH
@@arlaeus9491 Thanks a bunch!
Hey thanks for the great video! Wanted to ask about that addon right above you action bars, the one that tracks instance lockouts..... whats that one called?
Thank you Chase! That is weakauras combined with a script to track instances. If you google "weak auras script to track instance lockout" you'll find it!
@arlaus Do I need the epic mount to pull this off? they seem to catch up quick and I take a lot of damage on the zombie pull
no but it helps!
You said you were farming BRD and Strat, any chance of a video on how to do the Strat farm?
Hey Riley! Yup I’ll be working on it soon! I’ve been very busy as of late, but March is going to be a huge month for me!
What addon are you using to track your instance lockouts?
Hi! It's a combination of weakauras and a weakauras script. Weakauras is the addon and if you google "wow classic weakauras script for instance lockouts" you'll find a bunch of different ones you can import into the addon!
@@arlaeus9491 would you happen to know which weakaura it is? i like the look of the one you have
@@kachiga6582 wago.io/OXlZupyKm
here you go!
@@arlaeus9491 thank you!
How do you do this without ice block there when boosting? Do you just fight them somewhere else?
Obviously can’t ice block at the entrance when carryingz
You can! The alts are far enough away that they aren't seen by the mobs and so the mobs stay on you!
@@arlaeus9491 i'm trying this method for some time now. In 3 of 5 attemps, 1-4 mobs run away from ice block directly to the peoples.
i'm checking everey range, its no difference.
What add-on you using for see how many dungeons reset you have per hour?
Hi Ivan! That is a combination of weak auras and a weak auras script to track your instances. If you google "weak auras script for wow class instance lockout" you'll be able to find a bunch and you can pick the one you like!
Oh sure, thank you!
I have the improved CoC talent, but I think I mess up aiming it well in big polls. It looks super easy and consistent in your videos, even when you're doing it in passing. How do you make your CoC angle so good and consistent?
Hi Ashley! Practice practice practice and you'll get the feel down :). Ultimately, once you get a feel for your leeway range with your character you can use it in your favor as opposed to against you. Another thing that may help in the mean time is jumping, but I wouldn't rely on that in the long term as it could potentially cause some lack of movement issues.
Thanks for the vid! That initial pull is brutal if you don't have Magic Absorption. I go oom every time. How did you do that with the Flamestrike talents?
Hey B C! So on that initial pull you shouldn't be losing any mana really prior to the pull while agroing the mobs, so once you have them into position it's just about doing DPS. What I would do is come out of block and go for a flamestrike shatter combo on all the mobs, Kill totems, but outside of that cone of cold kite until nova is up and then do it again. At that point the mobs should be close to dead and you can aoe them down. Once the melee (with doctor + blood drinkers) are down, you can go ahead and evocate and move onto the shadowcasters, as you won't need evocate on the last pull with this spec!
Edgemaster can drop from scarabs?
Yes! Based on what people have said in my previous video's comments on the ZF vs Mara.
Great vid! Really like your content Arlaeus.
So i was wondering what kind of addons you us? Especially the vendor/gold counter addon.
Thank you man, I appreciate it!! I'm going to be releasing an addon video in March that goes over all of my addons!
In the meantime, that is the loot appraiser addon. In order for that addon to work you'll need the addon TSM as well.
Hey man, really nice video! So, after all of these, which one is the BEST gold making run? BRD? Keep it up!
Thank you ZRM!! I think it really depends on your servers prices and how much people pay for boosting! Most of the time I'd say Mara, with BRD being a close second.
Arlaeus And what abou the solo runs? I mean sometimes it’s pretty annoying to boost people, especially in ZF, maybe you can’t have a full group everytime, you know what I mean?:D so i suppose ZF is a good run to solo farm or which one is the best?
what addon do you use for the instance info at the bottom center of screen?
Mr arlaeus, I'm not doubting your claim but can you confirm your statement about scarabs dropping freezing band and edgemasters? I've had 2 underworld bands drop off scarabs but never seen an edgemaster or freezing band.
I can't personally confirm it, but when I made my ZF vs Mara video the other week people were commenting how they've seen both. Due to the quantity of people saying that they've seen edgemasters I would believe it's true. Wowheads loot table isn't great though, so I'm not 100% on it.
Thx for the tips, really enjoy the vid, GJ
Thank you Ambrose!!
Are you able to loot the graves after pulling all the mobs to the entrance, without them despawning? The cloth/greens/golden tusks are really worthwhile imo. Great guide! I too struggled to get my alt to the GY in one piece.
Thank you Delusa!! Likely not with the boosting as you would have to run all the way back to the end. What you could potentially do is open up the graves slower and double click every grave to loot it as you go. If you open them in say 5 rotations instead of two you could likely loot all the graves as well!
you can use traget dummies on your line up run to clump them too
Nice call!!
Do you downrank aoe spells? Even in full tier 2.5 and mana back on spell resist talent i'm oom in no time.
hey great video! I seem to keep dying when trying to use my LiP:
What I did was make a cancelaura macro with LiP and just spam it. You sometimes get hit a few times, don't think there's anything to do about that.
Great Video. Just in time cuz I want to run my alt through zf. Do u think it's necessary to skill imp Blizzard?
Very nice Niklas! Yes, without a shadow of a doubt. That's what allows you to be able to slow them to group them on the way back.
@@arlaeus9491 isnt it posssible to pull the mobs in the GY with speaking to the boss, so the mobs dont run to you directly
Hey Arlaeus. Could you do an update on this one for TBC Post-Aoe cap. I know you did one for the typical blizzard jump back n forth spot but is it still possible to do this “pull to start” strategy.
Thanks for all your guides. You da best!
Hey Arlaeus, do you know how much xp/hr this is? Just curious if it's close at all to the Mara 1 pull method?
Hey @Dustin! Yes, this is around 70k xp/hr roughly! Mara is definitely a bit harder, but this is likely more manageable for a lot of people, and doesn't require running over to desolace, so it's very person dependent!
hi what is the addon that shows how many mins left before instance lockout
Hi @Luke Heng! That is weakauras. Once you download it you can import a script by googling “wow classic weak auras instance lockout”
What potion should you drink after a block of ice?
limited invulnerability pot
Great video, been using this method for 7 hours today boosting my alt.
I have one problem tho, sometimes when I run back towards the entrance with the Zombies, they despawn when I jump to the place where you can go for an Evo/Bandage. As in, they just disappear and teleport back to the GY.
Do you know why that is? Happened 5-6 times out of however many runs I did in those 7 hours, and it's just annoying that you have to run back and redo.
they likely just reset because you got too far ahead of them.
Do you need epic mount for this? And what is the xp/hour?
No, but it's much easier with one!
+Arlaeus My LootAppraiser keeps resetting? Like it's installed - but unless I do a /la at the beginning, it's not counting anything. So if I start it up say 5 min into my farming - it starts from then on, it never collected the data from the beginning or the drops etc. Is there a setting I am missing? Yours seem to be counting even when you have clicked it away.
If you get a bunch of dead heroes why not start the pull like you're doing the ledge jump solo farm and aoe til the heroes die (they're non-elite with less hp) then reset?
this was a godsend method! couldnt multibox my alt solo all the way to graves issue fixed =) also cant do mara without sceptre so meh
Awesome!!! I'm glad it helped @sepfirem :)
There is a mara orange/purple pull thats also really good, and it picks up the rare mob so you can get some more gold by selling his loot to your boosts too, maybe check that one out
@@austinhensley6553 as i said without sceptre cant do mara =)
@@sepfirem there's a much better method for maraudon without sceptre. probably 2-3k more xp for the group, and the runs are faster. www.twitch.tv/videos/556007139?t=02h06m49s
Sorry, but im from brazil playing on faerlina and my ping is around 150, i cant do this (any group do mobs) , seems the mobs are attacking me at 10 meters, any tips for this? or im so bad?
No you're definitely not bad! That amount of ping is hard!! Just keep giving it your best and try to lead the mobs as much as possible!
11:45 slow fall?
I wouldn't recommend it as you could potentially run into other mobs. You could try though! I find that I'm only losing around 4% of my health when I jump onto the correct hill. Definitely try it though and see what works for you!!
Hey guys, do any of you know if ZF is the best solo gold making way? Or BRD one? (Again speaking of soloing, no boosts)
Prob DM east over both, but I’d say ZF and BRD are close and it’s dependent on your gear and experience with each!
Arlaeus Ty for your reply! My gear is pretty good. Got 3 pieces of t2 + a few of t1 and claw of chromaggus as a weapon. What would you recommend?:D
Hey what are you mages charging for ZF runs? I want to buy them when I turn 40. Doing SM runs right now until I hit 40
Sanjay W if u just do GY and scarabs an run there 3g
I do them for free but my server is between 3 and 6g per run!
I'm in the practice of jumping before Blink. It seems to help avoid those times the blink goes nowhere. Is that just in my head or do others find it helps?
Haha it may! I typically don’t have that happen but it happened twice in that run hhaa
Is this better exp per hour than maraudon?
It depends on how good the mage is that's pulling. It's the same xp or maybe slightly more than the half pull that some do in Maraudon. It's not as much though as the full Maraudon pull. That's some huge xp!
What is the addond called where u can see when u are going to be locked out :o im getting locked way to much :'D
It’s called weakauras!! And then you google “wow classic weakauras script for instance lockouts” and you’ll find a bunch
Why wouldnt it work with a dead hero? what do they do? so is this worth doing fro Boosting people? since u have to use a Lip every run and u will lose money?
So the dead hero is the only mob that can agro all of the extra mobs in the instance. They don't get agroed by scarabs or the regular zombies.
Btw the beginnining is really hard and scuffed to do, does it work like 100% now is it reliable? I use FS + CoC btw, also at the GY, is there a reason why u don't aggro the boss? the mobs will run away first so u hv more time to open GYs?
@@oGhullio Yup to both! So you just want to make sure you don't pull more than 2 witch doctors. You limit your mobs there a bit for an easier kill at the end!
You can save a couple of bag slots by putting the keys in the keyring though :)
Is cone of cold "extended" by leeway mechanic as well?
Yes!
Can you make video how to strat boosting??
Hi Kee Yu, I'm hoping to make that soon!!
How do you lip without that weird delay coming out of ice block? I've never gotten my cancel and lip to go off together
I use a cancel aura to get my iceblock to come off and then the system registers it faster for my LIP
does farming this net more gold compared to DME trasher farm?
If you add in boosting yes, but alone it would be based on a drop by drop basis. Given the recent patch release and the adjustment to prices of some items that drop in DME, I would currently say that on a 1:1 with no powerleveling basis, DME would be better.
@@arlaeus9491 Alright thank you, i'm in the middle of getting a mage up to 60 to farm me some gold haha..
@@Jas2davir Very nice man!!! Let me know if you have any questions!
Hi, Thank you for making great videos. What level should I start leeching XP here ?
Whats that addon called where u can see the instance avaiable and when they reset
That's a weakaura! If you google wow classic instance lockout weakaura you'll find it!
Any reason you do not trigger the boss? When they run to him instead you will take alot less dmg spawning zombies.
Yup!! I've never used it mid opening, but used to use it for positioning. So you do the rest in the next pull them?
@@arlaeus9491 I spawn all the zombies without even breaking my icebarrier. I trigger the boss, then i spawn all the zombies from the area where you enter GY, as i run towards the small stairs of the bossrom i freeze them in place, at this point most of them are heading towards the boss and not focusing me yet. then when they are frozen i click the graves as you do in your video, but i reset them between the vases you see in front of you at 7:04. Then i click the rest of the graves and blink forward to the reset spot next to boss. The zombies dont get stuck in the walls anymore and several run out to the graves again, then i carefully pull a zombie and let that one chain pull the others, with good tactic i dont even go below 100% hp, my shield absorbs the few hits i take.
@@ekinorak Oh dang you changed your original message haha. So I don't spawn the boss because they all group up really tightly then and hit you for more damage. By not spawning them, you take less damage from the group as a whole running through to agro them up. That being said, if you don't have your 100% mount it's a great way to handle all of the mobs!
Hey there, any chance of a link to the fire spec you mentioned in this video please :)
Hi qwerty! The link is in the description of the video, and I have also included it below for ease :)
Flamestrike Talents - bit.ly/3210ziH
Please help, someone explain to me to understand. I'm in PAGLE SERVER and zombie mobs have a minimum of 7000 to 9000 of healt. I don't understand why is that?
I'm not sure they do, but maybe your addon is messed up?? They should be fixed at I believe somewhere around 4,000-4,500!
@@arlaeus9491 Thank you very much for everything, your videos are very complete and no detail escapes you. Thanks a lot.
@@jonalkon9639 Thank you man!! Also, I didn't think about one thing, but you can kill the dead heroes before doing the pull so you don't need to worry about them!
How does he get mana back when being hit by spells? What does that?
Magic absorbtion. Arcane tree
are the boostees not getting aggro after u IB there?
As long as they are far enough away, and you never lead the mobs close to them before IB, they will be fine
Hey man, how much xp/hr and raw gold from all runs?
From all 5? It's about 50g/hr and about 75k xp/hr! Depends on the group levels
another superb video. Thanks Arlaeus!
Thank you very much Nashnya!!