Did I Pick The Wrong Router? - LinkStar-H68K

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  • @conbag5736
    @conbag5736 Год назад +36

    I enjoyed your "Ultimate Router" series a lot - in fact, I have an Odyssey which is also running pfsense inside prox mox.
    One thing I'm working on is getting the LTE module up and running and setting up a failover - so if the connection from my ISP goes down, it will fall back to the sim-card in the router.
    Doing this requires an LTE module to go in the M.2 slot.
    This seems like one very valid option that the Odyssey can do, which this board cannot.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +6

      Oh that’s super cool and a great reason to run that setup!

    • @b4g4b3l
      @b4g4b3l Год назад

      Do you have the old odessey with 1g lan ports or the newer one with 2,5g ? If you have the older one how does it handle the network speeds if its used trough a proxmox ? Do you have 1000mb from provider, do they also show up on pc ? For example i have 1000mb from provider and on pc i have 960 980mb, so i wouldent want to go lower...

    • @ggorg0
      @ggorg0 Год назад +1

      Would you mind sharing your setup and experience? I'm planning on doing the same thing. Which LTE module did you use?
      - Does it support dual MIMO antennas over SMA?
      - Does it support LTE+ (LTE Advanced)?
      - How were the speeds?

    • @jordantheman25
      @jordantheman25 Год назад

      oooooo that is a juicy idea.

  • @TruthDoesNotExist
    @TruthDoesNotExist Год назад +15

    I like this router series alot, my router is very old and I've been thinking of upgrading with a more DIY solution since those seem to have the highest performance and best specs and configurability but haven't made a decision on what would be best. I'm not afraid of putting together hardware myself and this series is giving me and the pluses and minuses on each option. I don't have much money so another factor is budget. I'm looking forward to your future networking experiments.

  • @bogorad
    @bogorad Год назад +3

    I got myself a NanoPi R5s (same CPU, also 2*2.5Gbps ports + 1 Gbps port, but with an M.2 VNME slot). It's my new router - easily handles my 800/800 ISP connection, a backup ISP connection, a fail-over LTE modem; also runs a a couple of docker containers (traefik, a DDNS updater, and four proxies that are PBR'd to 4 different VPNs). It also holds multiple wireguard connections and more stuff directly supported by OpenWRT. And it never goes over 5W. I'm very happy with it. For wifi I'm using an external solution.

  • @josephhutch4911
    @josephhutch4911 Год назад +5

    I've been using one of these as my home router for about a week now. Some devices do seem to take a little longer to connect to the network, but that could be just because I'm paying closer attention now.
    Now I need to learn Docker to expand my home network.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +2

      I’m curious if that could be a DHCP setting or something. Let me know how it goes!

  • @didotb01
    @didotb01 Год назад +1

    5:30 this peaked my interest since I'm currently doing the 200-301 CCNA course and I got a little bit excited when you asked us to put a comment. Hope you fixed the issue cause I'll definitely try to replicate your issue once I get mine as a practice and might benefit those with same issue to learn from you

  • @nerdynerdface
    @nerdynerdface Год назад +2

    Love your channel, dude! You have taught me so much.

  • @eins_namelezz
    @eins_namelezz Год назад +9

    Don't worry about the WiFi channel, it's main usage on manual selection is to avoid interference from a WiFi signal to another.
    Also, hello from your Discord server! o/

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +3

      Sorry I’m never on there 😅🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @smileyguyz
      @smileyguyz Год назад

      Woah, there's a discord server?

  • @FynnR
    @FynnR Год назад +1

    Love your channel! I really can relate to the content and also love to tinker with network, nas and pc stuff. You are so honest and wholesome because you don't claim any professional or total knowledge but try to explain the thing as good as you could. Keep doing it 💪🏼

  • @LeoLijo
    @LeoLijo Год назад +24

    Software support can be pretty bad on arm socs, well raspberry pi is an exception but seed studio should really make the code open source to get better support for this device

  • @FlammableElectronics
    @FlammableElectronics Год назад +1

    Wow, your channel growed so much since the last time i saw

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      It’s been wild… 😦

    • @FlammableElectronics
      @FlammableElectronics Год назад

      @@HardwareHaven I last saw you in the cheap lenovo E73 server I guess.
      Great video btw, I still have the E73 case and motherboard somewhere in my storage

  • @thejonte
    @thejonte Год назад +1

    Nice! Docker support. Wakinator now has docker support and can probably run on this!

  • @JaikrishnaAdithya
    @JaikrishnaAdithya Год назад +2

    I'm pretty sure DIY routers are cool.I might consider building one after watching your video!!
    Nice build!!

  • @cerveraoliver
    @cerveraoliver Год назад +1

    Cool video! Keep up with the networking stuff. I wanted to go for a virtualized router, and after seeing your popular video on The "ultimate Router", I'm pulling the trigger!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      Nice! Best of luck and hope it all goes smoothly haha

  • @seantellsit1431
    @seantellsit1431 Год назад +1

    Did SEED ever get back with you about fixing the things?

  • @LandonHalley
    @LandonHalley Год назад +17

    Yay new video

  • @nbr517
    @nbr517 Год назад

    Great work on your links and the video, thank you, this video helped me where I needed, I was doing a dumb thing, like trying to access interface/ssh on the wan side and was rejected. which is good. But I think 279mg is closer to 1/4 gb and you need 2500 mg to get to 2.5 gb as advertised.

  • @A7mad3bdullah
    @A7mad3bdullah Год назад +1

    Great video, thanks ❤
    Would be great if Seeed Studio made it easy to configure as travel router like GLiNet, by allowing to configure Wan access through (Wifi, Lan, mobile USB)

  • @MrPir84free
    @MrPir84free 8 месяцев назад

    This router would be "better" if they had used a 3588 instead of the 3568. 8 cores vs 4 cores.
    Read on another video about setting up 5ghz, and it suggested using channels 100 and higher. Something about the power levels being higher for those channels; don't know if this is correct or not; and have no means to really tell anyways.
    The router concept is pretty good. Depending upon the speed of your proxmox server, you may see better speeds for some things using a real x86 server, and with other things, things like wireguard will perform better with either higher clock speeds but also works better with the more cores that are available.
    Travel routers, and similar form factors are interesting specimens when it comes to experimenting; 3588's perform significantly better with wireguard for example, with a 3588 ( nanopi makes a few ) over the 4 core ARM processors. Had some issues with setting up wireguard on an x86 OpnSense implementation; odd issues like freezing of the network.
    Still, this little LinkStar box would be interesting to tinker with.

  • @SB-qm5wg
    @SB-qm5wg Год назад +1

    OpenWRT: I can't tell from the video, but I'd assume your two lan interfaces not talking to each other is a zone issue. I saw some of your zones with only a single interface. Some of my zone rules have 4 interfaces.
    LUCI is a great GUI but I find myself SSHing in and using logread (like syslog) to see what's going on.

  • @ARandomSpy
    @ARandomSpy Год назад +1

    at 8:06 for less than a second you can see a frame of HH's face pop up on screen, lol

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 Год назад +2

    It is ok for the money. Looks like a monster openwrt box. Needs more cpu for packet inspection, etc, at higher speeds. I would go x86 based on the router and use a seeperate wifi 6 router. This is a super powered version of the gl.inet ax1800 flint.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      Yeah, I feel like it would be awesome for a travel router or for a home user who doesn’t necessarily have a ton of home-lab type stuff going on where the extra horsepower.

    • @jameshanna2214
      @jameshanna2214 Год назад

      What are the best solutions for packet inspection?

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 Год назад

      @@jameshanna2214 diy build with more cpu power

  • @lrmackmcbride7498
    @lrmackmcbride7498 Год назад +1

    Were you ever able to get 2.5gbits of throughput on lan to lan?

  • @daanmageddon
    @daanmageddon Год назад +2

    If both clients use the router as their default gateway, any ip that doesnt resolve into their own subnet will be sent to the router for....routing, and dont forget if you dont use static ips you'll need to tinker with the localhosts file to tell the clients where to find each other. Also if one of the clients has an extra network interface connected to yet another subnet that client might not use your linkstar as a router, you will need to set static routes on the clients. Finally your linkstar will need to allow routing back and forth between the zones/subnets (without any NAT), which isnt by default, unless its the WAN(6) vs LAN zone.

    • @daanmageddon
      @daanmageddon Год назад +1

      btw (now checking what you did after that) you configured the linkstar as a dumb hub, not even a switch. That means any packet that comes in at port 1 is sent out on port 2 and the other way around without any consideration. That will create a lot of overhead and i guess some latency which will tank a filestransfer.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      Can you point me to the setting you’re referring to? I appreciate the input.
      I thought bridged mode would essentially act as a switch, but maybe I’m incorrect.

    • @daanmageddon
      @daanmageddon Год назад +2

      ​@@HardwareHaven NP, assuming you have 2 subnets A and B and corresponding zones, in openWRT goto Network->Firewall, make sure zone A->B and B->A forwardings exist and have accept in the forward column, input and output as well, no masquerading (we trust the networks and allow them to talk to the router and each other, if they know how to find each other). Pinging client B from client A is a good test, as it needs a "round trip" and only works if both know how to reach each other. First start pinging the router from the clients, then the other client. If pinging doesnt work then check if both clients have the router (which should itself have 2 different ip addresses, one in both subnet) as their default gateway. That should work. If you need to use hostnames instead of ip addresses, you will need to edit the hosts files on the clients, but that is probably not necessary for a test, probably confused you by mentioning that.
      BTW i wasnt right about the dumb hub, as long as packet mirroring is off, it will actually do what a switch does, and i am not entirely sure what caused it to be slow. But if you go for that approach both clients actually do need to be in the same subnet, but you probably knew that.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the response! And no worries. Yeah I had both clients in the same subnet when bridged and it worked just at a reduced speed. When trying to run two subnets, I BELIEVE I setup zones and forwarding as described. I was able to ping the gateway address of subnet A from a subnet B device and vise versa but couldn’t ping any device on the subnet. I might re-read what you sent and tinker with it some more when I get some time. It’s tough because I’ve done this exact thing in PFSense with no issues haha

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +3

      Also, I love this type of stuff here. I wish more people actually tried to be helpful when they know more rather just being a jerk haha. Continue being awesome.

  • @TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha
    @TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha Год назад +1

    I'm really curious about the issue with the 2.5Gbit Interfaces, since this is imo the feature that suggests that thing has the horsepower to handle a couple of stuff 🤔
    But not be able to create users via UI in 2023, i mean, come on WRT, you can't be serious about that? That is honestly for me a bummer. Not that i'm not familiar with the terminal, (running my own server cluster at home, several linux servers at several providers in the cloud) but that leaves me doubts about the functionality and stability of the project if something so basic is simply not there.
    And the lack of support for ARM-based computers is very annoying tbh. My my question is: pfSense what's your issue? and from my own experience: Saltstack what's your issue denying the master server component also on arm if the minion runs on arm as well? tbh i donno how deeply pfSense needs to be entangled with the cpu instruction set, but in case of saltstack (and many other projects i looked up on) the lack of arm support are an artificial limitation: They can, but for some weird reason, they don't want to.
    And i say that as someone who has amd64 systems at home alongside a raspberry pi with arm.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT Год назад

    7:32 'NASes are cool'
    We agree!

  • @namphuong4463
    @namphuong4463 4 месяца назад

    I don't know why the H68K can have both the main function of router and other secondary functions such as docker, pi-hole, home-assistant..., can you tell me or some keywork to find? understand about it. I am planning to replace the router from the ISP with the above DIY devices. thank you!

  • @dirtybrokkoli
    @dirtybrokkoli Год назад +1

    Nice one, would love to pick one up but no *sense support is kinda bad, need to learn either pf or opnsense for work related reasons. But what can you do.
    just a quick question, if the partition is a leftover from your proxmox install, why not just wipefs the drive? :)

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      Lots of inexpensive x86 mini PCs with dual NICs on the market that might be a good option!
      And yeah, that would’ve been the solution but I’m lazy and also am limited on time haha. I forget commands that I don’t use super often, plus I would’ve needed to setup ssh to get into the shell, so I just ignored it and moved on

  • @Romek_S
    @Romek_S Год назад +1

    "little antenas"... ouch, I laughed so loud I woke up the cat :D

  • @frannyfranman
    @frannyfranman 2 месяца назад

    Do you think it would be possible to replace the m7921e down the line with a wifi 6e or wifi 7 card?

  • @mrbiznessguy
    @mrbiznessguy Год назад

    were you able to load pihole onto this? Could this potentially be a good device for firewall/pihole on the go?

  • @trungtran4940
    @trungtran4940 Год назад +1

    Windows XP just chilling in the background

  • @tigeroats913
    @tigeroats913 Год назад

    To be honest I loved the perfect router because it was self hosted and built by you but I get the benefits of this

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      Yeah, I wish it was simpler to compile/install an OS on this rather than relying on a prebuilt image

  • @augurseer
    @augurseer Год назад

    I own one of these. Super cool

  • @adamtan4361
    @adamtan4361 Год назад

    The WIFI signal is very weak, anyway to fix that for HK68?

  • @TonyTheYouTuba
    @TonyTheYouTuba Год назад

    Thanks for this, some interesting food for thought. Just to confirm, you can completely erase the Android OS and run openwrt, or is android still on there too?

  • @robinpalmquist3679
    @robinpalmquist3679 Год назад

    Just ordered a N5105 with 4x 2.5Gbps, planning to run OPNsense

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      Nice!

    • @FynnR
      @FynnR Год назад

      I ordered the same but with the N6005 to use it as a plex server. I guess that thing rocks as a router since the ports are all saturated?

  • @yapanwolf
    @yapanwolf Год назад

    what do U think is the best option to have a NAS, build a website and set up it from own house, get acces to my house`s files on internet with gallery to manage them or maby replace my own router. i was thinking taht Zimaboard will be good option but is there any alternativs? pfsense will do this?

  • @tepp1110
    @tepp1110 Год назад

    yes new vid btw can you do a vaultwarden video setup thingy much love from the philippines!

  • @666Waspin666
    @666Waspin666 Год назад +1

    The name in the title is wrong. It's H68K not 86

  • @28stryper
    @28stryper Год назад

    Would you know if it has the ability to install a 5glte modem to it to make it a high-end hotspot

  • @SharjilPrince
    @SharjilPrince Год назад

    For the love of linux, balena doesn't work for me on windows. I use rufus.😅

  • @cowrevenge
    @cowrevenge Год назад

    I just need a vpn to reroute my TV updates that are region locked, and adblock for wifi devices. Do you recommend this item?

  • @bodhi6k
    @bodhi6k 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, do you think we can manage Passbolt on Docker ?

  • @ggorg0
    @ggorg0 Год назад +1

    Could it be possible to hook up a 4G (LTE+) modem to it? It's my only way to access the internet at home and I don't want to have a separate router just as a modem...

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      Not sure honestly. That’s never something I’ve dealt with unfortunately

    • @ggorg0
      @ggorg0 Год назад +2

      @@HardwareHaven I think you can only connect a modem via M.2 PCIe, which (I think) this device doesn't have. For USB, I've only seen 3G modems here.

  • @anteozenunllari9518
    @anteozenunllari9518 10 месяцев назад

    How can I order this route because the country is stick on Germany for address

  • @techlifejournal
    @techlifejournal Год назад

    It looks cute

  • @ghostingalong
    @ghostingalong Год назад

    I like this idea for a router. Super curious at to why the wifi required manual channel selection and why the transfer across the 2.5 ports did not reach appropriate speed. I’m looking into a offense router myself. Any recommendations?

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      I feel like I always see a lot of good recommendations on the PF sense sub Reddit. I know there are a lot of budget x86 mini PCs with dual gigabit if that’s what you’re looking for.

    • @ghostingalong
      @ghostingalong Год назад

      @@HardwareHaven thank you for a response. Means a lot

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      No problem! I try to be active in the comments whenever I can haha

  • @JacobArthurA
    @JacobArthurA Год назад

    Is it able to use the wifi in a client mode? My modem is wifi only (Startlink for RVs) and I'd like to be able to hook up a small cluster of three micros for local testing without needing them all to be connected to the modem directly.

  • @Cynyr
    @Cynyr Год назад

    It's always the software support that is an issue with non x64 stuff.

  • @livtown
    @livtown Год назад

    or you could also get a cheap thin client (ie fujitsu machines) and add dual 2.5 gbe ports, that's a lot cheaper...

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      True! Still trade offs but maybe worth it

  • @goldmax1412
    @goldmax1412 Год назад

    I would buy it if:
    1)x86 based
    2)Dual-band wifi support

  • @TGC1775
    @TGC1775 Год назад

    Is there a way to just shove a cheap mobo etc into a 2U and add some sfp cards?

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      Yeah I imagine so. I don’t really have a good space for a rack though so I haven’t looked into anything like that much

    • @TGC1775
      @TGC1775 Год назад

      @@HardwareHaven I have a 6u rack with a 2u slot available. My issue is a lack of knowledge for what to use. I have a amd 5600x just laying around needing a mobo etc.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      Level1 has some cool videos on rack mounted systems with sliger cases

  • @eloimartinez9446
    @eloimartinez9446 Год назад

    why this instead of the iKoolCore R1?

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      Well it's cheaper and has built in Wi-fi, so they're very different products. It just depends on the use case

    • @eloimartinez9446
      @eloimartinez9446 Год назад

      @@HardwareHaven That’s true, but I think that at the point of having a multigig network having an x86 cpu for pfsense and a dedicated ap/s makes more sense.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      That’s a fair point! That’s why options are good 👍🏻

  • @DanT10
    @DanT10 4 месяца назад

    Sketchy version of OPEN-WRT? No thanks!

  • @Slackware1995
    @Slackware1995 Год назад

    This thing is a joke (on the customer) and a horrible waste of money.
    The Rockwell arm CPU is designed for low end phones, tablets and sbc's NOT as a router configured as this thing is.
    Besides the arm CPU that limits what you can run on it (no proxmox or pfsense), limited ram (only 4GB) and truly limited IO support is the high cost for what little you get.
    The CPU's io support is based on it's target role.
    The CPU supports:
    (2) 1 gbps nics
    Choice of PCIe 3.0 2x1 or 1x2
    Choice of PCIe 2.1 1x1, SATA 3.0 x3, USB 3.0 x1 (and a few other options)
    USB 2.0 x2
    This means that they had to make some hard decisions on how to get all the io working. The (2) 1 gbps nics and USB 2.0 are natively supported.
    There is just no way to support the rest without overloading the cpu's io.
    if we assume that they chose PCIe 3.0 2x1 and PCIe 2.1 1x1, then either each 2.5 gbps nic gets its own PCIe 3.0 x1 lane and the WIFI and 2 USB 3.0 ports all share a single PCIe 2.1 1x1 lane.
    The current price on Amazon is $229 plus shipping.
    Or you could buy an Intel Celeron J4125 based fanless router for $210. It comes with 8GB RAM, 64GB storage, 5 Intel 2.5 gbps nics, (2) USB 3.0, a m.2 WIFI port (up to WIFI 6E).
    A generic WIFI 6E for $26 or an Intel for $40. This device is in the same price range but can run proxmox, pfsense, pi-hole and a couple more containers at the same time.
    Or you can limit yourself to WRT.

  • @KarlMiller
    @KarlMiller Год назад

    I appreciate the content about the Linkstar box. I am sure this took a long time to create considering the confusion getting some things running.
    On whole I came away more informed, however I don't think you should have created a bleeding edge router device given your admitted lack of development and networking knowledge. After seeing how your random approach to provisioning the device on your network, I don't know how you are comfortable running it on your network given your lack of understanding with what you are doing...
    ... which is how I came to think that maybe you shouldn't have been the right person to do this review/tutorial.

  • @default_youtube_profile
    @default_youtube_profile Год назад

    Did they not feel dumb with selling a hardware with 4 nic interface and installing android !?

  • @Scranny
    @Scranny Год назад +8

    Where is this manufactured? I've been doing my best not to buy hardware from China.

    • @splokfake4715
      @splokfake4715 7 месяцев назад +5

      It's practically impossible to buy electronics without having at least some part being made in China

  • @gowinfanless
    @gowinfanless Год назад

    it's cool!!

  • @dim3nt0
    @dim3nt0 Год назад

    ultimate router would be a router, just a router. like mikrotik with routeros, or any other that allows advanced setup. i dont beleive you can get that functionality by running stuff in a container or on top of windows. well not yet.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад

      OpenWRT and PFSense/OPNSense are dedicated OSs not containers. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying though

  • @daniel070487
    @daniel070487 9 месяцев назад

    oh this is hardware haven, not hentai haven, dang wrong site 😅

  • @Solomonwo
    @Solomonwo Год назад

    Epic

  • @jumpmaster5279
    @jumpmaster5279 Год назад

    Networking stuff
    Language of god's
    Because 1 click and it's all gone

  • @gutwallst6645
    @gutwallst6645 Год назад

    Nerd 🤓

  • @baba.o
    @baba.o Год назад +1

    hallo

  • @nopve
    @nopve Год назад

    Hi

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted2714 Год назад +1

    yeah you picked wrong one and paid too much when you could have used a refurb that was more expandable and actually worked easily for much less money

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  Год назад +1

      To be fair, I already had it so I didn’t pay for it. But I’m also curious what your recommendation might be!

    • @ggorg0
      @ggorg0 Год назад +2

      I also want to see what you recommend!