Sorry for the bad camerawork, I am very new to recording and I use my phone for all my videos so had to manually record and focus while trying to write
My parents are planning to gift me a Pelikan M800 for my high school graduation, glad to see that these pens are appreciated for what they are; truly wonderful writing instruments. :)
Finally I read some one talking about this type of issue; I have had the same issue with Parker Sonnet and Waterman Expert (my Pelikan M425 haven’t gotten yet to that point.)
Using M205 for atleast 7 years, without any problems. Yeas recently i went with mb 146 instead of m)800/805,just for different experience & slightly broad nature of line width from m800 nib.
That does seem like an atypical experience, Matthew; it may well be something as fundamental as not wiping the nib unit after filling (& I'm not attempting to insult your intellignce, here). I have an extensive range of Pelikans from the 1930's to modern day contemporaries - never had a corrosion concern; either you've been incredibly unlucky, or careless - or you're using permanent inks - & they will corrode most metals if you're not aware of oxidation principles.
@@andrewtongue7084 if you google "pelikan ring rust" you'll find it's quite a common problem. Since it doesn't happen to any of my other pens and many other people have the same problem, I'm confident the fault is not with the users. I only ever used non-permanent, water soluble inks with that pen
Then I (& the many fountain pen users I know personally) must be an exception to the rule. I do recall reading about the modern contemporary Montblanc 144 that suffered with extreme section ring corrosion - & on that very premise, MB discontinued its manufacture - they were getting a multitude of complaints; a design fault in the inner seal of the section did not measure up to the given tolerances. Of course, I've been writing with fountain pens since I was a boy, & now, some thirty five years on, I have never encountered this issue. I can appreciate it, were the country of residence was, say, prone to high humidity or extremes of cold. Other than that, I cannot rationalise why some models/pens suffer in this way; one of the vagaries of life, perhaps ? Anyway, take care of yourself, Best, Andrew
Perhaps the previous owner of your 146 thought the M in the middle of the snow cap logo was a sign of it being a M nib. It really seems like an EF but perhaps that is just because I am unfamiliar with older pens.
I wonder what you think, now that the Pelikan is almost at the same price as the Montblanc. I still encounter QC issues with Pelikan nibs despite them upcharging for EF nibs now, but I've heard Montblanc has improved their nib QC slightly.
Nice pen, I have both fine nib, M200 and M800, thinking of getting an M600 as the M400 is already the same size with the M200. I am thinking of trying out the Medium for a change but I have doubt that I might not like it if it's too thick, hmmm, decisions, decisions. I see you didn't have a Pelikan medium so i can see the thickness. That Cambon is sweet.
Nice overview, OA. There is no surprise that the '70's Montblanc 146 has more flexion - this was the heyday of MB scribes, & after the 1980's, MB's quality control became at variance with their contemporaries (in my opinion); in fact, generally speaking, I wouldn't purchase a new MB, now - they have re-invented a 'calligraphy nib' for the 146/149 models - but really, they're just the same as issues from earlier decades. As to the Pelikan M800 series, I have several of these (I have large hands), & thus far, never had a problem with any of them - new or pre-owned; that, of course, can be a subjective experience - more often than not, it is dependent upon whom you've purchased from, & how well the scribe has been looked after. For preference, I'd take the Pelikan over the MB, but then I own both (second hand), & each bring their own pros & cons. Thank you !!
Neither of these nibs appear as medium to me. Pelikan medium nibs seem to write wider than many Western mediums. My recent purchase of a new M800 fine nib writes like the one you have. A M800 in Canada sell for around $850.Cdn.
Sorry for the bad camerawork, I am very new to recording and I use my phone for all my videos so had to manually record and focus while trying to write
Nice, simple comparison compared to other 146 vs M800 videos. It was hard to choose between these 2, so I ended up getting both 😂
My parents are planning to gift me a Pelikan M800 for my high school graduation, glad to see that these pens are appreciated for what they are; truly wonderful writing instruments. :)
I also asked my parents to give me an M800 for my birthday, I ended up getting a 3776.
@@tesres2169 still a great pen from what I’ve heard!
You need to earn these types of nich items, not as a gift.
I went with the 146 over the M800, mostly because of the grip trim ring on the Pelikans. In only 2 years the ring on my M405 has begun to corrode!
Finally I read some one talking about this type of issue; I have had the same issue with Parker Sonnet and Waterman Expert (my Pelikan M425 haven’t gotten yet to that point.)
Using M205 for atleast 7 years, without any problems. Yeas recently i went with mb 146 instead of m)800/805,just for different experience & slightly broad nature of line width from m800 nib.
That does seem like an atypical experience, Matthew; it may well be something as fundamental as not wiping the nib unit after filling (& I'm not attempting to insult your intellignce, here). I have an extensive range of Pelikans from the 1930's to modern day contemporaries - never had a corrosion concern; either you've been incredibly unlucky, or careless - or you're using permanent inks - & they will corrode most metals if you're not aware of oxidation principles.
@@andrewtongue7084 if you google "pelikan ring rust" you'll find it's quite a common problem. Since it doesn't happen to any of my other pens and many other people have the same problem, I'm confident the fault is not with the users. I only ever used non-permanent, water soluble inks with that pen
Then I (& the many fountain pen users I know personally) must be an exception to the rule. I do recall reading about the modern contemporary Montblanc 144 that suffered with extreme section ring corrosion - & on that very premise, MB discontinued its manufacture - they were getting a multitude of complaints; a design fault in the inner seal of the section did not measure up to the given tolerances.
Of course, I've been writing with fountain pens since I was a boy, & now, some thirty five years on, I have never encountered this issue. I can appreciate it, were the country of residence was, say, prone to high humidity or extremes of cold. Other than that, I cannot rationalise why some models/pens suffer in this way; one of the vagaries of life, perhaps ?
Anyway, take care of yourself,
Best,
Andrew
Perhaps the previous owner of your 146 thought the M in the middle of the snow cap logo was a sign of it being a M nib. It really seems like an EF but perhaps that is just because I am unfamiliar with older pens.
That might be the case, when I bought it as preowned it was listed as medium.
@@OwlxArt it looks like a fine to me. Heavy handed people tend to produce thicker lines and mistake the give in the nib for tip size
Good video, but I suggest using the same ink the next time for both pens. Hard to gauge performance from such disparate inks.
I wonder what you think, now that the Pelikan is almost at the same price as the Montblanc.
I still encounter QC issues with Pelikan nibs despite them upcharging for EF nibs now, but I've heard Montblanc has improved their nib QC slightly.
Nice pen, I have both fine nib, M200 and M800, thinking of getting an M600 as the M400 is already the same size with the M200. I am thinking of trying out the Medium for a change but I have doubt that I might not like it if it's too thick, hmmm, decisions, decisions. I see you didn't have a Pelikan medium so i can see the thickness. That Cambon is sweet.
Nice overview, OA. There is no surprise that the '70's Montblanc 146 has more flexion - this was the heyday of MB scribes, & after the 1980's, MB's quality control became at variance with their contemporaries (in my opinion); in fact, generally speaking, I wouldn't purchase a new MB, now - they have re-invented a 'calligraphy nib' for the 146/149 models - but really, they're just the same as issues from earlier decades. As to the Pelikan M800 series, I have several of these (I have large hands), & thus far, never had a problem with any of them - new or pre-owned; that, of course, can be a subjective experience - more often than not, it is dependent upon whom you've purchased from, & how well the scribe has been looked after. For preference, I'd take the Pelikan over the MB, but then I own both (second hand), & each bring their own pros & cons. Thank you !!
Does Montblanc has greater quality than Pelikan
Neither of these nibs appear as medium to me. Pelikan medium nibs seem to write wider than many Western mediums. My recent purchase of a new M800 fine nib writes like the one you have. A M800 in Canada sell for around $850.Cdn.
Where did you get an m800 for $200????????
That does sound odd.....I have never seen it at that price. I like the M800 very much...the least I have seen is $340s.
Hello ı ask this what is your jub where did you use this pens. Thanks:)
both performed not convincing to me. I would go with the M800, though.
Post pen on back of pen. Cap is covering the nib. 🙂😉
That 146 is NOT a Medium
It’s a medium if he wants it to be.
That does look like an extra fine nib.