Hultafors GK Heavy Duty Knife field test (Polskie napisy)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @sliderulelover
    @sliderulelover 9 лет назад +2

    Outstanding video showing off the Hultafors GK Heavy Duty knife. The fact that you demonstrated it during winter with snow all around shows just how useful this great knife is. Well done!

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

      sliderulelover Thanks. Yup, a knife has got to perform. No matter the weather ;)

  • @44szaman
    @44szaman 7 лет назад +1

    Dzięki za fajny pokaz! Ja w swoim podniosłem szlif jakieś dwa, góra trzy milimetry pozbywając się tego podwójnego ostrzenia i koleżka tnie jak szatan! Nie rozumiem dlaczego skandynawowie robią tak niskie szlify. Przecież wystarczy trochę wyższy szlif i nożyk tnie o wiele lepiej a z taką stalą można nie obawiać się szczerb czy wręcz pęknięcia. Niedługo zrobię filmik. Pozdrawiam cieplutko!

  • @JohnnyConnerMeditation
    @JohnnyConnerMeditation 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you, Simon! I love my GK, and plan on using it as my winter knife because the handle is large enough for gloved hands. My summer knife will be the Hultafors Expedition knife, which has a somewhat smaller handle, and is very comfortable to use.

  • @Bruce_S
    @Bruce_S 8 лет назад +1

    This video convinced me to buy one of these, and I love it. Does everything I want in a bushcraft/utility knife. £5.95 from Heinnie Haynes in the UK (as of Oct 2016). That makes this knife a hell of a value. Thanks for your reviews!

  • @MrWaymanc
    @MrWaymanc 5 лет назад +1

    Great vid! Another fine/tough quality blade that won’t break the bank. Nice review in cold conditions.

  • @b0lobattali0n78
    @b0lobattali0n78 8 лет назад

    Picked up this robust knife after seeing a video of yours comparing it to a mora. Received it today and I am blown back by how much value you get with this knife.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      +b0Lobattali0n That's right. It's cheap and nothing special but it sure gets the job done.

  • @jasholden9741
    @jasholden9741 7 лет назад +1

    This is a good bushcraft knife that is a great survival knife because it's so tough. I gave mine a scandi/convex edge grind. The steel is Japanese SK5.

  • @camilqwe5378
    @camilqwe5378 8 лет назад

    Znalazłem złoty środek . Po prostu kupie oba :) Jeszcze raz dzięki.

  • @kibonaut7296
    @kibonaut7296 6 лет назад

    Since I bought one of this Hultafors in Sweden last year, it replaced my Mora Bushcraft. The Steel is so great! And a useful Video on Feathersticks also by the way. Tx!

    • @opensourc
      @opensourc 5 лет назад

      Did u mean hultafor is better than morakniv?

  • @Airik1111bibles
    @Airik1111bibles 7 лет назад +1

    When finding out these were SK5 steel I was like 😮 WHAAAAAAT! wicked awesome.

  • @HighCarbonSteelLove
    @HighCarbonSteelLove 9 лет назад +8

    My friend, that was actually one of the best knife reviews I have ever seen. That was great! Thanks for mentioning me and I am glad I inspired such an excellent video of high quality and content. I only wish my vid was half as good as yours :) This video will make anyone want one of these. I love inexpensive, high quality blades, which is why I love Moras so much. Dont you hate it when your baton breaks? Happens to me a lot and it gets frustrating, especially when dealing with those nasty knots. BTW, are you located in Poland, my friend? I have never been able to tell from your videos. I used to think you were in England but I have heard you talk about Poland lately. Thanks, again for such a good video, brother, that was great! I hope to talk with you again soon! -Dave

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +6

      HighCarbonSteel Love Nice to hear/read that :)
      Most of the time I live in England. But I come from Poland and visit as often as possible. You see, they don't have such beautiful, state-owned forests in England. Nor do they have snow :) If the past, communist epoch gave us something positive, it would probably be common land, where you can go to pick mushrooms, berries or camp (in designated places) without having to ask anybody's permission.

    • @HighCarbonSteelLove
      @HighCarbonSteelLove 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries Very interesting, brother. How long of a drive is it from where you live in England to Poland? -Dave

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      About two days cause you waist a lot of time on the ferry from Dover to Calais. It wouldn't be much faster even if there was no sea in the way, since it's over a thousand miles each way. But I mostly fly these days.

    • @billyprendergast6631
      @billyprendergast6631 6 лет назад

      Great video,super sharp knife.

  • @JerryWDaviscom
    @JerryWDaviscom 7 лет назад

    Nice technique using the hilt of the handle as a guide along the side of the featherstick. I ordered one from Amazon. It will take the place of my Gerber Prodigy, which is an outstanding knife but the blade is too thick for bush craft. I expect this Hultafors to perform exceptionally well.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  7 лет назад

      Thanks. This is also quite thick. About 3 mm. The orange version is thinner (2 mm). Check that one out if you decide the big Hultafors is too much.

  • @ike780
    @ike780 9 лет назад +2

    there is a destruction test comparison between the robust and the gk. the mora is a bit stronger even though it appears slimmer.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +2

      I'll have to find it then. Maybe I should repeat it to increase the sample size ;)

  • @thankmelater1254
    @thankmelater1254 4 года назад

    I'm going to buy this knife. Thank you for the tips!

  • @MichaelTravis12c27
    @MichaelTravis12c27 9 лет назад +1

    You convinced me. I ordered 2!

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

      Hultafors should thank me ;) Especially that I just convinced a Wildlife Conservation organisation to by 10 of those for their visitors to learn some bushcraft lol
      I just hope you'll like it now.

  • @dkoriss1
    @dkoriss1 9 лет назад

    Hi nice test, I am about to order it, you think is better than Hultafors hvk?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      dkoriss1 Hello and thank you :)
      This one is definitely bigger, thicker and stronger. Is it better? Depends for what I guess.

    • @dkoriss1
      @dkoriss1 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries thanks for your reply, finally I ordered them both, hvk is sharper and gk is sturdier, thicker more durable like you said.
      So they are meant for different use so by not been expensive I ordered both. Thanks again.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      dkoriss1 No problem. Glad I could help. Enjoy your new knives.

    • @dkoriss1
      @dkoriss1 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries Thanks mate

  • @gelavski
    @gelavski 9 лет назад

    Приветствую.
    Высокое качество видео.Браво.
    Спасибо!

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Михаил Желавский Спасибо за просмотр

  • @rachelleregan1515
    @rachelleregan1515 9 лет назад

    Nice! Those close up shots are really sharp!

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Thanks. Yeah, that camera really does a great job. But unfortunately, it all has to be done manually. You can tell it's not a dedicated camcorder after a few hours of lone video shooting :)

    • @rachelleregan1515
      @rachelleregan1515 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries You need a camera man/woman ;)

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Rachelle Regan Are you volunteering? :)

    • @rachelleregan1515
      @rachelleregan1515 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries I would be if I knew the first thing about cameras! ;)

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Rachelle Regan Well, I've seen your pictures and they prove otherwise. Filming is quite similar as far as I know. It's just like taking photos continuously, in short intervals, for a long time lol

  • @svilendenchev9984
    @svilendenchev9984 9 лет назад +4

    GREAT knife.

  • @camilqwe5378
    @camilqwe5378 8 лет назад

    witaj szymonie
    co uważasz o hultafors hvk ? Bo myślę że gk jest dla mnie trochę za gruby bo w lesie głównie bawię się w feather sticks i try stic więc myślę że cieńszy będzie lepszy . Więc co myślisz o hvk? Jak ze struganiem trzymaniem ostrości itd ? pozdrawiam

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      Jeśli chodzi o ostrość, to stal jest ta sama więc nie ma problemów. Jest trochę węższy i w ostrzu i rękojeści więc jeśli masz mniejsze dłonie, to będzie w sam raz. Te noże są zwykle bardzo ostre od nowości więc nic nie trzeba z nimi robić. Kiedyś kupiliśmy ich ze dwie paczki dla wolontariuszy do nauki bushcraftu w Londynie i sprawdzały się doskonale. Jeśli się zastanawiasz nad wytrzymałością, to dawno temu nakręciłem taki śmieszny filmik ;)
      ruclips.net/video/IU3JdaPYhc8/видео.html

    • @camilqwe5378
      @camilqwe5378 8 лет назад

      czyli z porównaniu w gk ostrość trzyma identycznie ? Jak tak to spoko tylko pewnie trzeba trochę zrobić convex

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      Identycznie to pewnie nie bo kąt jest inny. Convex zawsze pomoże :)

  • @camilqwe5378
    @camilqwe5378 8 лет назад

    no i się wszystko wyjaśniło :) conwex
    zawsze pomoże True story bro :) Dzięki za szybką odpowiedz.Pozdrawiam

  • @pauljohnson4948
    @pauljohnson4948 3 года назад

    Nice review.
    I agree they are underated knives.

  • @mplsatty
    @mplsatty 9 лет назад

    Simon, I scrolled through the comments but couldn't find anything directly on it, though you mention it again in the comments. My question is how did you remove that secondary bevel? I'm pretty new to modifying my blades, actually I've really only worked on some axes for the most part. I've got some old files, sand paper, & a WorkSharp (basic model), as well as a Dremel. (I've got the tools, I just don't have the knowledge or skill, & I'd like to change the latter.)

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

      +David Huber I've got a video for you :)
      ruclips.net/video/OHEHm2Xr8AU/видео.html
      However, this is not really about removing the bevel as it was already gone at the time. But I used the same stone to regrind the blade and the same home-made strop to finish it. This steel sharpens easily and removing the small secondary bevel isn't a huge job so it can be done on a regular 400/600 grit whetstone. You just need to round it off a little. And another goos thing about Hultafors is you don't really have to worry about messing it up since it's so cheap :) It's a good knife to practice sharpening on. Hope this helps.

    • @mplsatty
      @mplsatty 9 лет назад +1

      +Simon's Discoveries That helps quite a bit! I actually had already watched that video you did on sharpening (an excellent tutorial, by the way) in case you mentioned removing the bevel there (seemed like you were about to address it when you said something about a modification you'd made to the Hultafors, but then went no further). Knowing which tools you'd used (whetstone, skill, & patience), I feel less intimidated tackling it myself. And like you said, if I screw it up completely, at least it won't cost much to replace. Thank you for your advice!

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      David Huber Sure, any time. Have fun sharpening :)

  • @dennisdomino9273
    @dennisdomino9273 7 лет назад

    Great knife and fun thing I've seen more pictures of full tang knives braeking then the hultafors gk it's a very strong knife and at that price perfect:)

  • @SteveB357
    @SteveB357 9 лет назад

    I found that I like to use the button hook on the regular sheath belt loop. You can use it on your pants or on your shirt as a replacement for a neck knife. It locks on tight.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Steve Brettell So far I haven't found the right button size :) But I've tried it and agree - this does works even for me to some degree. Thanks for watching.

  • @_boss_2833
    @_boss_2833 3 года назад

    Szymon, co sądzisz o nożu Hultafors OK1?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  3 года назад

      Wygląda jak nowe wcielenie GK z kilkoma bajerami dla odświeżenia wizerunku. Nie miałem więc tylko zgaduję ale według tego co widzę na papierze, powinien zachowywać się identycznie do starej wersji.

    • @_boss_2833
      @_boss_2833 3 года назад

      @@SimonsDiscoveries masz podobne zdanie jak ja😀

  • @SimonsDiscoveries
    @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

    @Svil Buscus For some reason there is no reply button under your message, so I'm gonna have try something different.
    It is. I actually found out about the steel and posted a video update some time ago :)
    ruclips.net/video/LKDX6jljaLA/видео.html
    Thanks alot for watching and sharing my video.

  • @shuttlemanjack
    @shuttlemanjack 9 лет назад

    Simon, how about a video on modifying back of blade to make it better with firestarters?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Jack Fletcher You mean like this one here?
      ruclips.net/video/C82QTBn41mM/видео.htmlm26s
      ;) It's not an entire video on this subject but it's being done here. Some people have pointed out there's sonething wrong with the way I'm using the file so don't quote me on that :) However, it's safe and does the job in just a few moments so I'll take that :)

  • @Mateo-vx5hx
    @Mateo-vx5hx 9 лет назад

    Łapka za Polskie napisy! Świetny film.
    Like for Polish subtitles! Great video.
    PS: Nie musisz tej pałki nazywać młotkiem - w Polsce też mówimy na to baton.
    PSS: Jeśli możesz to też nagraj test Robusta.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

      Krul Mateusz :) Dzięki. Mam jeszcze trochę materiału nagranego po angielsku, przed naszą rozmową, więc minie jeszcze jakiś czas zanim zrobimy odwrotnie - gadanie po polsku, napisy po angielsku.

    • @Mateo-vx5hx
      @Mateo-vx5hx 9 лет назад

      Nie mogę się doczekać. Pozdrawiam

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      Moja mora HQ przeszła kilka poważnych modyfikacji przyspasabiających i filmik jest w przygotowaniu.

  • @stringsteene
    @stringsteene 9 лет назад

    Very good video! Thanks for taiing the time to make and share it. I enjoyed it.
    My wishlist just grew.

  • @camilqwe5378
    @camilqwe5378 8 лет назад

    A jeszcze jedno: jak wypada w porównaniu do mory ? Bo jak widać ma wyższy szlif . Ma to duży wpływ na pracę z tym nożem ?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      Zależy której mory :) Do tych 2 mm jest bardzo podobny. Kąt się trochę różni i ostrze chce głębiej wchodzić przez co trzeba je bardziej kontrolować w hultajach. No i dobrze je troszkę zaokrąglić dla zdrowotności ;)

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 9 лет назад

    I bought my Mora Robust High Q on Amazon for $13.24 free shipping.
    Just a bit more than this knife.
    Still........I think i may buy one of the Hultafors GK Heavy Duty knives as well.
    A good sharp knife is like " Cow Bell " you can't have too much.

  • @MadM0nkey
    @MadM0nkey 5 лет назад

    How is this knife for somebody with small to medium hands...Especially compared with, say, a mora robust pro?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  5 лет назад +1

      Hard to say. That Mora has a smaller, thinner handle so, at least theoretically, it could be better.

  • @gelavski
    @gelavski 9 лет назад

    А как по-вашему,какой из ножей предпочтительнее: этот из обзора или Mora Robust New?

  • @stellap.6664
    @stellap.6664 8 лет назад

    You demonstrate very well.thank you for sharing your knowledge. Subscribed.

  • @piotrekug
    @piotrekug 9 лет назад

    Świetne filmy!
    Lepszy według Ciebie GK od Mory Companion HD?
    pozdro:)

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      piotrekug Dzięki. Tak, ale tylko ze względu na moje osobiste preferencje. Po prostu lepiej mi leży w dłoni i lepiej mi się nim struga. Można by się doszukiwać i dorzucić, że Hultaj dłużej trzyma ostrość. Moim zdaniem SK-5 Hultaforsa jest pod tym względem trochę lepsza od 1095 Mory (teraz już wiem co to za stal i nawet wrzuciłem krótki filmik na ten temat ruclips.net/video/LKDX6jljaLA/видео.html )

    • @piotrekug
      @piotrekug 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries W takim razie trzeba będzie go kiedyś sprawdzić. More HD mam od paru godzin i mam nadzieję, że po powrocie z lasu będę się tak samo dobrze wypowiadał o niej, jak Ty o GK:)
      Jeszcze raz dzięki za świetne filmy, oby było ich więcej:)

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      piotrekug Mora na pewno cię nie zawiedzie jeśli chodzi o wykonanie ciężkiej roboty. Reszta to kwestia gustu.

  • @bibleprophecy1st
    @bibleprophecy1st 9 лет назад

    Mora Companion HD on Amazon is $18.00 and that knife is $2.00 cheaper. Not having to deal with the secondary bevel is worth the $2.00's to me.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      +bibleprophecy1st Over here, the difference is or was much greater - Mora HD about £14-16 (for some reason that's a lot more than HQ Robust which is only £10 and is essentially the same knife), Hultaforst £8. Plus the Hultafors' handle feels better to me. On top of that, you can't really avoid modifying either of these knives if you want them to serve you well and you'll have to sharpen that spine on pretty much every Mora knife. Unless you decide to spend a lot more on the Bushcraft Black. But personally, I'd prefer to get rid of the secondary bevel or sharpen the spine myself and keep the extra money in my pocket.
      Thanks for watching.

    • @bibleprophecy1st
      @bibleprophecy1st 9 лет назад

      Simon's Discoveries
      I agree about the Robust being the same as the Companion HD. The spine is a very easy fix in about a minute with a bench grinder or dremmel tool. Removing a secondary bevel can be alot more work. But when your talking about just a few bucks like the amount it cost for a capacino at Starbucks I don't really care. I waste alot more then that.

  • @zip2692
    @zip2692 6 лет назад

    I have to say, I have never started a fire with a feather stick. Waist of time. Mora knives rock skinning fish though.

  • @meawoodsman8321
    @meawoodsman8321 8 лет назад

    I'll take a Mora Companion heavy duty over this anytime. Why, the Mora sheath is perfect for what it is. I don't like to buy something that needs mods to be useful or in some cases the sheath is immediately replaced. The Mora is a knife that works well as is.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад +1

      Moras still need modifications though. You need to sharpen the spine if it's to be a useful bushcraft knife, round the grind if you don't want it to roll and chip too easily and I also modify sheaths sometimes.

    • @meawoodsman8321
      @meawoodsman8321 8 лет назад

      I don't strike off the spine. My ferro rod has an attached striker. That's how I roll.

  • @StelmansLT
    @StelmansLT 3 года назад

    If it is stated that it is japanese some kind of carbom steel it is very likely it is SK5 or SK4

  • @billpowers916
    @billpowers916 9 лет назад +2

    They use SK5 carbon steel (of cold steel fame) and AUS8 steel

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад +1

      billpowers916 Yup, I found out a few weeks after uploading this video. I think I even updated the info in annotations. Thanks.

  • @LetoAt77
    @LetoAt77 9 лет назад

    Did the HGK have gaps between the handle and blade like the Mora HQ? And does the spine strike a firesteel out of the box or require modification? Thanks again for the great vids!

  • @keithbaker3405
    @keithbaker3405 6 лет назад

    good review but the constant screen pop ups are really annoying.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  6 лет назад

      You mean my early attempt at subtitles? :) I think they'll disappear if you just turn off annotations. The later versions of my vids have proper subtitles in the right format. Thanks.

  • @hipekpl6509
    @hipekpl6509 9 лет назад

    Jak przerobiłeś tą pochwę ?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  9 лет назад

      HipekPL Obciąłem ten plastikowy zaczep i przynitowałem brezentową szlufkę.

  • @Mykford1
    @Mykford1 8 лет назад

    Got mine two hours ago and really wish I bought the Mora Robust instead. This knife was $15.00 and that is what you get a $15.00 knife. The Mora's are much better finished and feel like a higher quality knife. This knife was dull, it was unevenly ground and the handle had casting spurs all over it. Buy a Mora.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      +Myk Ford Well, you will have to regrind it a bit but I prefer the large handle on my Hultafors.

    • @Mykford1
      @Mykford1 8 лет назад +1

      +Simon's Discoveries ...yes, you're right Simon. I put a convex grind on it and brought it up to my Mora Comp HD's edge. The handle is nice as you say but my main gripe is the price, I looked on Amazon and the cheapest I could find it for was $15.00 USD. So it's the same price as the comp HD and the Robust which IMO are better quality. Thanks for your feedback and keep up the good work my man, your videos are great.

  • @rogeriosartori555
    @rogeriosartori555 6 лет назад

    nice and freezing video!! it's been said that these knives are NOT made of japanese steel... I don't know...

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks. I asked Hultafors some time ago and they said their carbon steel is the Japanese SK-5 and stainless is AUS-8.

  • @timerius
    @timerius 8 лет назад

    i've got a tip for all you guys who like the knife but would like a better sheet: www.casstrom.se/sheaths/wealted-leather-sheath-for-eka-swingblade.html
    actually it works with Moras new 2015 Basic/Pro series, with the new handle.
    Works great,good quality,nice price. Just wanted to let you know.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  8 лет назад

      +PerferObdura It works with many other knives too. I've got one of those :) Thanks.

  • @indianajones2798
    @indianajones2798 7 лет назад

    What means polskie napisky?

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  7 лет назад

      Polish subtitles.

    • @indianajones2798
      @indianajones2798 7 лет назад

      Oh thanks! I didn't know this. anywhere,good videos, very good videos

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  7 лет назад

      Thank you

    • @indianajones2798
      @indianajones2798 7 лет назад

      I love your videos, but I would ask you one thing: can you do a review of the Hultafors HVK ? I think that it can be a good knife. Thanks.

    • @SimonsDiscoveries
      @SimonsDiscoveries  7 лет назад

      Well, those aren't exactly proper reviews but I kinda test these knives in the videos below :)
      ruclips.net/video/23TqfVCi27M/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/IU3JdaPYhc8/видео.htmlm6s

  • @huejanus5505
    @huejanus5505 8 лет назад

    I bought one of these because of the good reviews. Mine is a piece of crap. The handle is horribly finished, the grind is so uneven and choppy that it's hard to figure out where the edge is supposed to be. It actually looks like a 10 year old did it on a bench grinder. The back of my butter knives are sharper than this thing. If anyone reads this 'don't buy it', save your money or buy a mora.

    • @terocool7625
      @terocool7625 6 лет назад

      yap, they are made in china, buy mora , white people make them better

  • @david111davies
    @david111davies 5 лет назад

    £4.63 I have seen them

  • @steverose3318
    @steverose3318 Год назад

    Does it leave a streakless finish when you paint your toenails with it ?
    Geeze. C'mon man. A test ?

  • @mikkei3532
    @mikkei3532 4 года назад

    chyba to jest to samo co MORA