The samnite alreay fought against the greeks who used the phalanx as well. The italics put the greeks in the south on great troubles, the romans had to adapt to their combat style as well
@@TzarTzarevich777 Not true, really, try reading Livy (1 52), about maniples during the reign of Tarquin Superbus. As to Dovahatty, never heard of him, but he probably has never read Livy.
It's so cool that Italia had so many advanced and worthy tribes/civilizations, though the Latins would ultimately rise to dominate. No wonder they were so hardened and unstoppable by the time they made their way out of Italia alone! They had to conquer some very worthy opponents.
Rasna also had cities in the Campania (not the today's known region which ishalf Campania half Samnium) such as Capua for example. They had some kind of a second dodecapoli in southern Italy before the were driven out /absorbed by oscans/samnites/lucanians
@@AncientHistoryGuy Huh, Same. I just got Attila recently. Gonna finish off the last of Rome 2's faction achievements. Seriously, get the OG Rome: Total War Music Mod. It makes battles ALL the more satisfying and epic.
I have you know that linen was cultivated in the region until early 20th century. Many had looms at home prior the second world world war. Only recently in modern times many with industrialization most of the old crafts have been abandoned. Each town specialized according to its location and presence in its territory of easily available materials be it agricultural or grazing the land to a particular crafts, terra cotta vases, leather, wood works, and metal. A variety of textile materials wear in use, wool, flax, hemp, burlap for agricultural produce and prior to unification even silk. In the Samnite period linen was more than possible. Obviously the elites not every one. One have to see Pietrabbondante with its temple theater and the recently discovered Domus Publica, residence of the Samnite high priest, and in Monte Vairano a cyclops walled city with paved street side walks and homes burned at the time of Sulla. Many archeological findings are from distant places of the Mediterranean basin. See Videos on you tube on Pietrabondante Archeologist La Regina and De Benedictis archeologist on Monte Vairano.
Being a Samnite reenactor myself this makes me a little happier than i am usually :). Even though it is obviously a simplified version. Livy writes MANY years after the Samnite wars and un the midst of other struggles between Romans and italics (with the samnites in the front row) so his story is a little bit affected by this. Anyway samnites never gave up: 3 Samnite wars, Pyrrhus, Annibal, Social war, civil war and even Spartacus, samnites always fought (not entirely) for different reasons. I suggest a book of my old professor Gianni Brizzi "Ribelli contro Roma" Rebels against Rome. Very interesting take.
A book on them came out last year. I got it at time,just haven't got round to reading it. Published by pen and sword books. Think I'll start reading it today.
Imagine being the guy who sees a large pile of corpses on the mustering field your first day on the job, and when your boss asks if you're going to be loyal you say "nah fam". I wonder how much of that story is Roman propaganda since we know the Romans were master propagandists.
Why would you go up to the guy with the knife, KNOWING the consequences, and still say no? There's no way you don't know what's gonna happen! You just saw the guy in front of you get stabbed!
Nice one, very interesting I loce the part you put on glasses to read th quotes 8:52 btw its not scoot ium, scu tum, look at the mediation, hes pronounceation is perfect
Thankyou! And its accurate! Im light sensitive so the white pages hurt my eyes. BRING BACK YELLOW PAPER BOOKS! lol Yup, that it is, Alex my voice over guy has lots of chances to practice his Latin in the upcoming videos!
Assuming people basically stayed in one place until modernity, I am a Samnite as my people came from this part of Italy. I am glad that we stand among the many tribes and peoples of the world who eventually found civilization and escaped barbarity.
Rome got a lot of their early cohort ideas from the Samnites, specifically the looser formation of infantry. The Samnites in turn sort of just adapted Greek military ideas for the Italian landscape/warfare which was far ore mobile in greece.
So not entirely . A lot of the coastlines especially in West were a mixture of Greek and carthaginian colonies. Often it was these cities which the syracusans and the carthaginians were trying to sway over to their side. We could be even more detail and note how the North and south of the island was divided by different dialects of Greek which would be why the athenians would get involved in the first place on the island. The Greeks had colonies everywhere along north Africa as well many of which relied on cartage for naval protection against pirates rather than their mother city as it was closer.
I swear every time I hear "linothrax" I'm close to getting an aneurism. This isn't a particularly difficult word to get right, and you said it a hundred times and didn't bother once reading it right. We still speak of the thorax in the medical profession. It's the chest. Finally, just because the "th" sound exists in English, doesn’t mean it exists in every language. The "th" is pronounced as a hard "t". Now let's try again: Linothorax.
What a way to make me stop listening. There is an established form of dating but yeah not here, sad as it was good until they started with the "inclusive" dating method, immediately to my mind it then becomes not solid history and sometimes else. If you're going to use an alternative dating system make it your own piggybacking on the established is just weak.
Fighting the Samnites made the Romans fully abandon the phalanx after the First Samnite War. They basically stole the Samnites gear as well.
But thanks to the maniples the Romans won
The samnite alreay fought against the greeks who used the phalanx as well. The italics put the greeks in the south on great troubles, the romans had to adapt to their combat style as well
Where's the evidence? Romans had maniples during the reign of King Tarquinius Superbus (534 BC to 509 BC).
@@stevenjames8397 nope. That is not true. The evidence is by a good history channel named: Dovahatty in his Unbiased history of Rome.
@@TzarTzarevich777 Not true, really, try reading Livy (1 52), about maniples during the reign of Tarquin Superbus. As to Dovahatty, never heard of him, but he probably has never read Livy.
Oooooh, do the Etruscans next! The 12 cities of the Rasna deserve more of a spotlight.
Agree
It's so cool that Italia had so many advanced and worthy tribes/civilizations, though the Latins would ultimately rise to dominate. No wonder they were so hardened and unstoppable by the time they made their way out of Italia alone! They had to conquer some very worthy opponents.
Rasna also had cities in the Campania (not the today's known region which ishalf Campania half Samnium) such as Capua for example. They had some kind of a second dodecapoli in southern Italy before the were driven out /absorbed by oscans/samnites/lucanians
@@francescograssi2913 They had a third one in Cisalpine Gaul as well!
Used these in Rome 2: Total War, Rise of the Republic.
*Laughs in Anti-Cavalry*
I was always a imperator augustus fan, and then Attila came out and i just dove into that!
@@AncientHistoryGuy Huh, Same. I just got Attila recently. Gonna finish off the last of Rome 2's faction achievements. Seriously, get the OG Rome: Total War Music Mod. It makes battles ALL the more satisfying and epic.
Theres no Rome without the Samnite wars and the effec those had on Rome. Nice to see they getting more attention
I didn’t know we had sources describing the Samnites in such detail. Thank you for sharing this!
I have you know that linen was cultivated in the region until early 20th century. Many had looms at home prior the second world world war. Only recently in modern times many with industrialization most of the old crafts have been abandoned. Each town specialized according to its location and presence in its territory of easily available materials be it agricultural or grazing the land to a particular crafts, terra cotta vases, leather, wood works, and metal. A variety of textile materials wear in use, wool, flax, hemp, burlap for agricultural produce and prior to unification even silk. In the Samnite period linen was more than possible. Obviously the elites not every one. One have to see Pietrabbondante with its temple theater and the recently discovered Domus Publica, residence of the Samnite high priest, and in Monte Vairano a cyclops walled city with paved street side walks and homes burned at the time of Sulla. Many archeological findings are from distant places of the Mediterranean basin. See Videos on you tube on Pietrabondante Archeologist La Regina and De Benedictis archeologist on Monte Vairano.
Please make a video on the history of every Italic tribe.
The shield description reminded me more of a medieval kite shield than of a Roman scutum.
Thank you for this vid, and your super professional, clear and detailed quality! You got yourself a subscriber!
Being a Samnite reenactor myself this makes me a little happier than i am usually :). Even though it is obviously a simplified version. Livy writes MANY years after the Samnite wars and un the midst of other struggles between Romans and italics (with the samnites in the front row) so his story is a little bit affected by this. Anyway samnites never gave up: 3 Samnite wars, Pyrrhus, Annibal, Social war, civil war and even Spartacus, samnites always fought (not entirely) for different reasons. I suggest a book of my old professor Gianni Brizzi "Ribelli contro Roma" Rebels against Rome. Very interesting take.
Good timing. Researching this linen legion so appreciate it
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! I recently watched a video on the Samnite wars and couldn't find that much detail on them, keep it up!
Best one yet!
thankyou!
Amazing video! I really love watching your stuff. ❤
Glad you enjoy it!
First class video (once more!) on this elite unit!👍👍
A book on them came out last year. I got it at time,just haven't got round to reading it. Published by pen and sword books. Think I'll start reading it today.
Imagine being the guy who sees a large pile of corpses on the mustering field your first day on the job, and when your boss asks if you're going to be loyal you say "nah fam".
I wonder how much of that story is Roman propaganda since we know the Romans were master propagandists.
Why would you go up to the guy with the knife, KNOWING the consequences, and still say no?
There's no way you don't know what's gonna happen! You just saw the guy in front of you get stabbed!
hmm I guess if you truly believed the war was unjust? either that or you are just ignorant to the situation you have found yourself in.
@@AncientHistoryGuy I get the idea of standing up for what you believe in but they do say disgression is the better part of valor!
It was likely some sort of solemn oath in front of the Gods. For someone who is deeply religious you would not take that oath unless you meant it.
@@AncientHistoryGuyu just war was modetn day invention
@@OdysseusXT one could argue its a roman invention, they always had to come up with a "defensive" reason for going to war, or raiding someone!
Nice one, very interesting
I loce the part you put on glasses to read th quotes
8:52 btw its not scoot ium, scu tum, look at the mediation, hes pronounceation is perfect
Thankyou! And its accurate! Im light sensitive so the white pages hurt my eyes. BRING BACK YELLOW PAPER BOOKS! lol
Yup, that it is, Alex my voice over guy has lots of chances to practice his Latin in the upcoming videos!
The Sam Knights fighting Ghouls... oh my
The shield description sounds like a triangle, or heater shield in the medieval style.
My thought as well.
History is written by the victors. And what we know about things like the Linen legion is from their victorious enemies, like the Romans.
You mean that history of Carthage wrecking Rome for awhile? Or the Guals? Or the Persians? Think about your comment before typing next time.
Rome lost several times but still recorded this loses
@@Dogmeat1950 he's not wrong.
Great Video!!! But its Lino-tho-ra-x, not Linothrax.
Λινό-Linen and θόραξ- chest.
Man, if i can find a way to get these in 28mm for hail Caesar then I’d be set!
well that is one way of recruiting soliders i suppose.
Linothorax pronunciation?
Assuming people basically stayed in one place until modernity, I am a Samnite as my people came from this part of Italy. I am glad that we stand among the many tribes and peoples of the world who eventually found civilization and escaped barbarity.
My grandfather is from Isernia, Molise. Am I a Samnite too?
How about the samnite gladiator
interesting, i never heard of them
Link to your sources please, not just to the main webpage.
Reduced Chaffing sounds nice
setup paypal and channel membership.
Is this metatron channel?
No
Samnites cool now👍
Did the copy Legion Technology from Romans ?
More like the other way around.
romans never invented anything, they always copied from etruscans greeks carthaginians and other ithalians like samnites you see in this video.
Rome got a lot of their early cohort ideas from the Samnites, specifically the looser formation of infantry. The Samnites in turn sort of just adapted Greek military ideas for the Italian landscape/warfare which was far ore mobile in greece.
@@AncientHistoryGuy
Yeah, I heard something like that before if I remember.
@@Reuel-Jazwa
Indeed.
That map is wrong the Carthaginian have colonies in Sicily
So not entirely . A lot of the coastlines especially in West were a mixture of Greek and carthaginian colonies. Often it was these cities which the syracusans and the carthaginians were trying to sway over to their side. We could be even more detail and note how the North and south of the island was divided by different dialects of Greek which would be why the athenians would get involved in the first place on the island. The Greeks had colonies everywhere along north Africa as well many of which relied on cartage for naval protection against pirates rather than their mother city as it was closer.
@AncientHistoryGuy if you want i could make a better map, for i have extensively researched this area
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thankyou!
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thankyou!
I swear every time I hear "linothrax" I'm close to getting an aneurism. This isn't a particularly difficult word to get right, and you said it a hundred times and didn't bother once reading it right. We still speak of the thorax in the medical profession. It's the chest. Finally, just because the "th" sound exists in English, doesn’t mean it exists in every language. The "th" is pronounced as a hard "t". Now let's try again: Linothorax.
As a native English speaker, I have no idea how to pronounce words based on our spelling rules.
But this "Legion" didn't help the Samnites to win against the Romans with high morale and thier Trojan ancestry.
Downvote for saying BCE instead of BC.
cry harder nerd 😂
What a way to make me stop listening. There is an established form of dating but yeah not here, sad as it was good until they started with the "inclusive" dating method, immediately to my mind it then becomes not solid history and sometimes else. If you're going to use an alternative dating system make it your own piggybacking on the established is just weak.
What?
@@FatherofheroesandheroinesHe is mad that they said BCE (Before Current Era) instead of BC (Before Christ)
@@bernatagell941 i get that but he sounds high.