2 Timothy 3:16. "All that I have written is for you to stand firmly upon God’s spirit {“theopneustas”} (G-2316- “theo” = God + G-4151- “pneu” spirit + G-4714 - “stas” to stand firmly upon) (Romans 7:6; 1 Peter 1:22; 1 John 4:2; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:19; John 3:5; Joel 2:28) If Paul was speaking of the entire bible, how could he be speaking of all of the books that had not yet been written? Certainly he could not. The above translation is precise and is accurate. Get your copy of "THE ETERNAL BOOK OF TRUTH, THE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES"
@@Daniel12.4Ministry I know I have Holy Spirit and the main thing to do is to battle temptation by the power of Holy Spirit. If you believe in Jesus name and His gospel you are saved and have The One and Only Almighty Holy Spirit! The bible we have is good enough (I currently use the new living translation) and like I said just focus on battling sin and doing good deeds and if you belong to God He will guide you! God bless!
The belief that it is the "The Inspired Word of God" or "God-breathed onto the paper" comes from 2 Timothy which most likely was a forgery, someone claiming Paul's name, 3:16, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." Why would a God capable of the creation and resurrection miracles choose such an error prone way of delivering the most important message in the history of humanity?
The claim that Timothy is a forgery is, respectfully, one of the most idiotic claims I’ve heard. The best arguments against Timothy being written by Paul are the words he uses and the “differences” in Paul’s beliefs/focus. I think both these claims are knocked out of the park when considering context. 1 and 2 Timothy specifically reference events and make notes about certain people that Paul and Timothy both knew. It’s also a personal letter so of course Paul’s language will be slightly different when he’s talking to someone he treated as a son over churches of people he’d never met like the Corinthians. Paul’s focus is SLIGHTLY shifted because he’s about to die. The claim Paul never talks about church leadership before is false. Philippians references deacons and overseers. Other claims such as that Paul thought Christ was coming soon in his other letters vs in Timothy are again tied to Paul knowing he’ll be killed soon, and I think that barely affects the text. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” Paul was alive when he wrote Thessalonians so ofc he says “we” he’s not making the claim that he WILL be alive, he’s just referring to himself as a general Christian that IS alive. He obviously wouldn’t say “we” when referring to Christians who had died because Paul and those whom he’s writing to hadn’t died. The claim it wasn’t written by Paul holds no truth at all. It’s just an idea brought about by secular scholars that ignore context completely because they have a massive bias against the Bible.
@Z3K3 If it was shown tomorrow without a shred of doubt that Paul wrote Timothy, perhaps a new manuscript, would the scholar change their mind about the authorship? If the inverse were true, would the believer of inspired word?
@questioneveryclaim1159 - Before everything else: question yourself! What - only within your own worldview - makes you believe that the arbitrary chemical processes of your brain could produce any sense in relation to any 'truth'? Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2, 15 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2, 12-16
Matthew 5:17-18 I fear is a perfect example of isogesis. Jesus is talking about the Law and the Law was not the entire corpus of the Old Testament. Other places He refered to the Law and the prophets. He went on to confirm this context when He said He wasn't looking to end the Law but to fulfill it. So when He said that not one bit of it would pass away until He did so, He was talking about the Law. Not the entire OT and definately not NT material. We should be cautious about expanding scriptures beyond their actual context.
This point is what I am battling with. When Peter and Paul write letters to specific churches and use the phrase "all scripture," what exactly are they referring to? I would think it would include the Law, but possibly more (Songs and Prophets) but probably not include the letter they are currently writing. But then 2 Peter 3:15-16 refers to Pauls wiring to be included " as other scriptures..." So Peter at least considers some of Pauls writings to be scripture. This almost seems impossible to quantify with "man's understanding."
@@jjmilmore7299 I would see "all scripture" as a category. Though they probably had certain books in their mind when writing this, their words would apply to any book considered "scripture" and that could encapsulate their own works that were later regarded as scripture.
I doubt that there are any contradictions in God's revelation. The four gospels are four different aspects, focusses (king, servant, man, God) with no contradictions. The alleged contradictions are in your mind that falsely believes it could decide / determine 'truth'. I recommend you to study Dr. Jason Lisle's book on the alleged contradictions in the Bible.
1. Many supposed contradictions are differences in perspective or emphasis, not actual contradictions. 2. For example, if two people witness the same event, their accounts may differ slightly based on their focus, but this doesn’t mean the event didn’t happen. 3. The Gospels are written by different authors with unique audiences and purposes, which influences their presentation of the events. 4. If the Gospels were word-for-word identical, skeptics might claim collusion or fabrication. Their differences show they are independent accounts of the same events, written by different authors for different audiences. 5. Eyewitness testimony often includes variations because people focus on different details. These differences make the accounts more credible, not less. 6. If the Gospels were exact copies, they might be dismissed as a single, unreliable source. 7. Instead, the unique perspectives and varying details show that the authors were not merely copying each other but were independently preserving the truths they witnessed or received. I’d love to talk more about any specific contradictions you have in mind.
Yes it is inspired. In 2 Timothy chapter 3 16:17 when it’s taking about Scripture being inspired the literal greek translation of that verse taking about inspiration means God-Breathed. So all scripture came from Gods mouth including the record of Gods enemies.
Hey just to point this out circular reasoning (using a singular source to prove itself) is not ok. So in order to prove that the Bible is inerrant you must use an outside source
I am a Christian. I think the idea is that if you have some external experience to make you believe the words of the Bible, and the Bible itself claims that it is inspired, either you believe its words or you don't.
that means, we are already presupposing the Bible's words are true, then it follows if the Bible says it is the verbal word of God, therefore it is. I admit it is a non-trivial presupposition, i think that is where faith comes into the picture. I mean faith not as believing and holding your breath, but I see it as taking the first steps to believe then you realize God is with you. In my personal experience, it was God revealing to me that I was involved in evil or immoral behavior. I since then, in what I claim to be supernatural experiences, have felt His presence and redemption.
Last comment lol: a quote stolen from William Lane Craig: "We don't believe in Christ because we believe in the Bible, we believe in the Bible (and its words) because we believe in Christ."
Exodus 24:4 - "Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord." Deuteronomy 31:24-26 - Moses refers to the Book of the Law as coming from God, emphasizing its divine origin. Psalm 119:89 - "Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens." The psalmist views Scripture as God's Word. 2 Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is breathed out by God..." This explicitly states that the Scriptures are God's words. Hebrews 4:12 - "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword..." This highlights the Scriptures' divine power. 2 Peter 1:20-21 - "No prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." This identifies Scripture as God's Word. Words of Jesus John 10:35 - Jesus affirms the authority of Scripture by saying, "Scripture cannot be broken."
I can't imagine reading and understanding everything in the bible. Some of the stories are really strange and I wonder why they were written down in this holy book. God told Abraham to have a child with Hagar, Sarah's maid (or companion). He, of course, obeyed even though Sarah had given birth to a child later on in the story. I don't understand why these stories are shared? What made God talk to people back then? Why doesn't he talk to people today? Perhaps he does. However, people would not believe it. I have heard many stories of people being inspired by spirit. Whether it is God or not, many folks who know the bible say these things are wrong. I have heard some of these teachings and they are inspiring words to me. I just don't understand why people make the bible so important. If people just lived by the 10 commandments that God gave Moses we would be a lot better off!!! I have heard that there are over 600 laws that religious people follow. Where are these in the bible? Why do some people know about this while others do not? I don't understand why there is so much diversity in the world if so many people follow the laws that God gave us.
I'm not an expert, but God did not tell Abraham to have a child with Hagar. That was Abraham doubting that Sarah could give birth at her age. As for the laws, i think most of them are found in the first five books of the bible. Christians are not obligated to follow all the laws partly because it is impossible to follow all the laws, so Jesus bridges the gap. We aren't made righteous by the law, but by grace through faith we have been saved. Jesus still gives teachings on what to do, but he tells us the law can be summed up as loving God with everything that you are and loving others as you would want to be loved. Also the commandments are meaningless if the proper intent isn't there. As Jesus says that even if we aren't murdering or committing adultery, we have already committed those things in our hearts with our anger and lust.
@sheilayungk7815 - ... and the Law was given to the people of Israel in the Covenant at Mt. Sinai. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2, 15 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2, 16-21 Paul Benware's YT-Videos 'Understanding the Old Testament' could help understanding better and more. ❤️🙏
Praise God Pastor for the beautiful sharing of God's word 🙏
Can you make a video,
"biblical view of inspiration"
Yes please!!
Out of curiosity. If every word is God breathed, then what about inconsistencies and contradiction?
2 Timothy 3:16.
"All that I have written is for you to stand firmly upon God’s spirit {“theopneustas”} (G-2316- “theo” = God + G-4151- “pneu” spirit + G-4714 - “stas” to stand firmly upon)
(Romans 7:6; 1 Peter 1:22; 1 John 4:2; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:19; John 3:5; Joel 2:28)
If Paul was speaking of the entire bible, how could he be speaking of all of the books that had not yet been written? Certainly he could not. The above translation is precise and is accurate. Get your copy of "THE ETERNAL BOOK OF TRUTH, THE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES"
What are you trying to say 😢?? Brother
Do you have Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9, 2 Corinthians 13:5)
@@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHell Certainly I do! Will you choose to hear?
@@Daniel12.4Ministry
I know I have Holy Spirit and the main thing to do is to battle temptation by the power of Holy Spirit. If you believe in Jesus name and His gospel you are saved and have The One and Only Almighty Holy Spirit! The bible we have is good enough (I currently use the new living translation) and like I said just focus on battling sin and doing good deeds and if you belong to God He will guide you! God bless!
The belief that it is the "The Inspired Word of God" or "God-breathed onto the paper" comes from 2 Timothy which most likely was a forgery, someone claiming Paul's name, 3:16, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." Why would a God capable of the creation and resurrection miracles choose such an error prone way of delivering the most important message in the history of humanity?
The claim that Timothy is a forgery is, respectfully, one of the most idiotic claims I’ve heard. The best arguments against Timothy being written by Paul are the words he uses and the “differences” in Paul’s beliefs/focus. I think both these claims are knocked out of the park when considering context.
1 and 2 Timothy specifically reference events and make notes about certain people that Paul and Timothy both knew. It’s also a personal letter so of course Paul’s language will be slightly different when he’s talking to someone he treated as a son over churches of people he’d never met like the Corinthians.
Paul’s focus is SLIGHTLY shifted because he’s about to die. The claim Paul never talks about church leadership before is false. Philippians references deacons and overseers. Other claims such as that Paul thought Christ was coming soon in his other letters vs in Timothy are again tied to Paul knowing he’ll be killed soon, and I think that barely affects the text. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” Paul was alive when he wrote Thessalonians so ofc he says “we” he’s not making the claim that he WILL be alive, he’s just referring to himself as a general Christian that IS alive. He obviously wouldn’t say “we” when referring to Christians who had died because Paul and those whom he’s writing to hadn’t died.
The claim it wasn’t written by Paul holds no truth at all. It’s just an idea brought about by secular scholars that ignore context completely because they have a massive bias against the Bible.
@Z3K3 If it was shown tomorrow without a shred of doubt that Paul wrote Timothy, perhaps a new manuscript, would the scholar change their mind about the authorship? If the inverse were true, would the believer of inspired word?
@questioneveryclaim1159 - Before everything else: question yourself! What - only within your own worldview - makes you believe that the arbitrary chemical processes of your brain could produce any sense in relation to any 'truth'?
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2, 15
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 2, 12-16
Matthew 5:17-18 I fear is a perfect example of isogesis. Jesus is talking about the Law and the Law was not the entire corpus of the Old Testament. Other places He refered to the Law and the prophets. He went on to confirm this context when He said He wasn't looking to end the Law but to fulfill it. So when He said that not one bit of it would pass away until He did so, He was talking about the Law. Not the entire OT and definately not NT material. We should be cautious about expanding scriptures beyond their actual context.
This point is what I am battling with. When Peter and Paul write letters to specific churches and use the phrase "all scripture," what exactly are they referring to? I would think it would include the Law, but possibly more (Songs and Prophets) but probably not include the letter they are currently writing. But then 2 Peter 3:15-16 refers to Pauls wiring to be included " as other scriptures..." So Peter at least considers some of Pauls writings to be scripture. This almost seems impossible to quantify with "man's understanding."
@@jjmilmore7299 I would see "all scripture" as a category. Though they probably had certain books in their mind when writing this, their words would apply to any book considered "scripture" and that could encapsulate their own works that were later regarded as scripture.
What do you do with ALL the contradictions in the Bible? All you have to dois read the Gospels and see how different the stories are.
There seems to be contradictions but there is none. I suggest you watch videos on this subject.
@@cogito_ergo_sum-y2h and I seem to be poor but I'm really rich.
@@aaronmonroe7932 good for you
I doubt that there are any contradictions in God's revelation. The four gospels are four different aspects, focusses (king, servant, man, God) with no contradictions. The alleged contradictions are in your mind that falsely believes it could decide / determine 'truth'.
I recommend you to study Dr. Jason Lisle's book on the alleged contradictions in the Bible.
1. Many supposed contradictions are differences in perspective or emphasis, not actual contradictions.
2. For example, if two people witness the same event, their accounts may differ slightly based on their focus, but this doesn’t mean the event didn’t happen.
3. The Gospels are written by different authors with unique audiences and purposes, which influences their presentation of the events.
4. If the Gospels were word-for-word identical, skeptics might claim collusion or fabrication.
Their differences show they are independent accounts of the same events, written by different authors for different audiences.
5. Eyewitness testimony often includes variations because people focus on different details. These differences make the accounts more credible, not less.
6. If the Gospels were exact copies, they might be dismissed as a single, unreliable source.
7. Instead, the unique perspectives and varying details show that the authors were not merely copying each other but were independently preserving the truths they witnessed or received.
I’d love to talk more about any specific contradictions you have in mind.
But when the enemies of God speak in the Bible, is that inspired? I do believe all Scripture is but I have a hard time understanding that.
Yes it is inspired. In 2 Timothy chapter 3 16:17 when it’s taking about Scripture being inspired the literal greek translation of that verse taking about inspiration means God-Breathed. So all scripture came from Gods mouth including the record of Gods enemies.
@@danielpatino5432 How does that work?
@@breatheeasily4013 What do you mean?
@@danielpatino5432 Are you saying God inspired his enemies?
@@breatheeasily4013 No I said God breathed into his Word and That The Bible is Gods Word.
Hey just to point this out circular reasoning (using a singular source to prove itself) is not ok. So in order to prove that the Bible is inerrant you must use an outside source
I am a Christian. I think the idea is that if you have some external experience to make you believe the words of the Bible, and the Bible itself claims that it is inspired, either you believe its words or you don't.
that means, we are already presupposing the Bible's words are true, then it follows if the Bible says it is the verbal word of God, therefore it is. I admit it is a non-trivial presupposition, i think that is where faith comes into the picture. I mean faith not as believing and holding your breath, but I see it as taking the first steps to believe then you realize God is with you. In my personal experience, it was God revealing to me that I was involved in evil or immoral behavior. I since then, in what I claim to be supernatural experiences, have felt His presence and redemption.
if God is real, believe (the faith part) that he can reveal Himself to you if you let Him.
Last comment lol: a quote stolen from William Lane Craig: "We don't believe in Christ because we believe in the Bible, we believe in the Bible (and its words) because we believe in Christ."
That’s not what circular reasoning is and the fact you attempted to define it and define it wrongly just displays your ignorance.
all the people that that made the books were inspired by god
In not one single place does the Bible refer to itself as the Word of God.
Exodus 24:4 - "Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord."
Deuteronomy 31:24-26 - Moses refers to the Book of the Law as coming from God, emphasizing its divine origin.
Psalm 119:89 - "Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens." The psalmist views Scripture as God's Word.
2 Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is breathed out by God..." This explicitly states that the Scriptures are God's words.
Hebrews 4:12 - "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword..." This highlights the Scriptures' divine power.
2 Peter 1:20-21 - "No prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." This identifies Scripture as God's Word.
Words of Jesus
John 10:35 - Jesus affirms the authority of Scripture by saying, "Scripture cannot be broken."
I can't imagine reading and understanding everything in the bible. Some of the stories are really strange and I wonder why they were written down in this holy book. God told Abraham to have a child with Hagar, Sarah's maid (or companion). He, of course, obeyed even though Sarah had given birth to a child later on in the story. I don't understand why these stories are shared? What made God talk to people back then? Why doesn't he talk to people today? Perhaps he does. However, people would not believe it. I have heard many stories of people being inspired by spirit. Whether it is God or not, many folks who know the bible say these things are wrong. I have heard some of these teachings and they are inspiring words to me. I just don't understand why people make the bible so important. If people just lived by the 10 commandments that God gave Moses we would be a lot better off!!! I have heard that there are over 600 laws that religious people follow. Where are these in the bible? Why do some people know about this while others do not? I don't understand why there is so much diversity in the world if so many people follow the laws that God gave us.
I'm not an expert, but God did not tell Abraham to have a child with Hagar. That was Abraham doubting that Sarah could give birth at her age.
As for the laws, i think most of them are found in the first five books of the bible. Christians are not obligated to follow all the laws partly because it is impossible to follow all the laws, so Jesus bridges the gap. We aren't made righteous by the law, but by grace through faith we have been saved. Jesus still gives teachings on what to do, but he tells us the law can be summed up as loving God with everything that you are and loving others as you would want to be loved.
Also the commandments are meaningless if the proper intent isn't there. As Jesus says that even if we aren't murdering or committing adultery, we have already committed those things in our hearts with our anger and lust.
@sheilayungk7815 - ... and the Law was given to the people of Israel in the Covenant at Mt. Sinai.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2, 15
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2, 16-21
Paul Benware's YT-Videos 'Understanding the Old Testament' could help understanding better and more. ❤️🙏
Please demand more evidence and sounder thinking before you put your eggs in this basket.
One of the worst apologetic arguments I have heard for the alleged authority of the scriptures
That's what God reveals us in HIS word, the Bible. Do you have any valid foundation to evaluate what HE says in HIS word?
Dude you sound like a politician.