In other words the Bible was inspired and protected to be written through His Holy Spirit for our knowledge of who He is. However some statements aren’t true for eg. when Jesus was call Beelzebub amongst other names.
I'm a Christian, and I question claims that the Bible is the actual word of God and "inerrant", can someone provide me resources which will answer this question, not a 9-minute convoluted answer which absolutely clarifies nothing in my mind, thank you.
I have no doubt that what was originally recorded by the various authors was from God. What I have difficulty with is how things got messed up going through at least four languages to end up with the bible we have today. Bottom line is, there is no general consensus as to what the majority of the bible says. Take Jeremiah chapter five for example. The English wording as we have it in our bibles is highly unlikely what Jeremiah was attempting to communicate because the Hebrew language is way nor complex than English is and the Hebrew words had more than one meaning which likely got mistranslated into English.
How to be saved?? By believing in Jesus Christ ONLY, it's NOT Jesus Christ and your actions!! How to be saved?? 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 Romans chapter 10 verses 9-13 Some back-up verses to rest in God's promise; Acts chapter 13 verse 39 Romans chapter 3 verse 20 Romans chapter 3 verse 28 Romans chapter 4 verse 5 Romans chapter 5 verse 9. Have a blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
Which one of those gods came to earth as a human as a sacrifice for ALL human sin, past and present while man was still in sin and then rose from the grave 3 days later so that all mankind can now defeat the grave as He did and have eternal life just by simply believing in Him and repenting? Question, Why are we in the year 2023?
Which version of the bible do you read? Have you seen the bible changes in the KJV? Isaiah 11:6 and 65:25 use to say the "Lion will lay down with the lamb" That has now changed to the wolf. There are many other changes which are now in the KJV. see some of these verses below Gen 1:1 says "heaven" instead of "heavens" John 3:16 says "should" instead of "shall" Luke 17:34-35 says "2 men in 1 bed"; and "2 women" grinding Matt 7:1 "Judge not lest you be judged" is now "Judge n that ye be not judged" Luke 1:35 now calls the baby Jesus in the womb a "thing" Luke 19:27 now says Jesus said to" bring them here and slay them before me" Matt 9:15-17 now says "bottles" instead of "wineskin Matt 25:26-27 says "bank" instead of "money exchangers" NIV version Matt 2:11 now says "house" instead of "manger" 1Cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (it was LOVE) Rev 1:13 describes Jesus as "wearing a girdle and girt about the paps"
Also, these words are now in the KJV bible "tires, mufflers, planes, steel, unicorns, mortgaged, cockatrice, Easter , stuff, bottles (not wine skins), matrix, nursing fathers and many many more"
@@HearGodsWord Check your oldest bibles. They have been changed too. Amos 8:11-12 and Rev 22:18-19; say this is happening as foretold by GOD . Remember Jesus Christ is the Word of GOD. Rev 19:11-13 GOD BLESS YOU
@@michaelconley2008 one of my Bibles pre-dates the KJV! Doesn't change that fact that the KJV has word translations which aren't faithful to the original Ancient Greek, which was the point I actually made.
THE BIBLE IS BEST DESCRIBED AS A 10,000 PIECE JIGSAW PUZZLE...THAT IS MISSING ABOUT HALF THE PIECES! If only we had one book that had descended to earth, directly from God, in words we all understood, and it contained only what God wanted for all of us, at all times and in every circumstance! There are more than a few religious leaders, preachers and teachers who try to make it seem like there is such a singular book they call THE BIBLE. Trouble is--no such book exists! What is so often called "THE Bible," is actually a very broad array of many different collections of books, in many different languages, not always containing the same books, which are not translated from the original copies of any of them, because every single one of the original "autographs" have been lost, and all we have are copies...of copies of copies of copies...and even those differ one from the other! OK, so let's say we can at least agree that the original writings were, every one "inerrant." Apparently not! At the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy, that was held in Chicago in October 1978, a very conservative group, came out with a statement declaring what "inerrancy" of the bible meant, and all they did was re-define the meaning of the word "inerrancy" to exclude the 1000s of discrepancies between all the copies of copies of copies of texts that had been discovered up to that time, and they refused to recognize the results of the discipline of Contextual Criticism, the way all legit scholars of antiquity determine what parts of any copy of ancient documents is most likely in accord with the originals and which are not! OK, so let's just say we could agree on what scholars tell us which texts most likely represent the original writings of the bible books...then you have to ask, "Which books?" Today's Protestant Bible, for example, has 27 New Testament books, but before 1807, it had only 26, before the American Bible Society surreptitiously removed the Introduction page to the apocryphal books, like Revelation, which was often added to their printed editions! OK, so let's say we agree on what Protestants thought of as "The" Bible books before the 19th Century. Then how to know which parts of the that Bible represent God speaking to us today, and which parts not? Jesus, himself, said the Law of Moses was given for the hardness of men's hearts, a stop gap measure, not the full and final version of what God really wanted to tell us! OK, so let's say, for Christians, what really matters is what Jesus said, and everything else, such as the Old Testament and the later Epistles, must be interpreted through the prism of what Jesus taught and not the other way around. Well, maybe we're now getting to the heart of the matter...as long as we understand Jesus often spoke in parables, and more than a few times, employed the use of hyperbole, and probably because his real views, had he expressed them openly and unreservedly from the get go of his public ministry, he would have been killed right away, and we would never have even heard of him...so he also spoke as if he agreed with what the Pharisees taught, only to put a little twist on them, as his way of conveying his real positions but only to those "who had ears to hear." Is, then, "inerrancy" the word to describe the process of peeling back all the many layers of trying to get at what Jesus of Nazareth was really driving at and what was, centuries after their deaths, attributed to Moses, the Jewish prophets and writers of the New Testament? Well, how about another term that much better fits what we have to work with--a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle! Depending on what's included (just the Greek and Hebrew or the Latin and other language versions), there are somewhere between 6,000 and 20,000 texts of the Bible, none of them the originals, but copies of copies of copies. So, more than a few people are content to claim one version of this puzzle, pieced together by representatives of one particular religious sect that began when a murderous king wanted to get rid of his Catholic wife that could not bear him a male heir, the King James Bible, is somehow miraculously equal to the original autographs, and every part of it (well, as cherry picked and then proclaimed from pulpits) represents what God says to everyone today. However, if we apply honest scholarship to weed out all the fake pieces someone cut out and added to the box (using Textual Criticism), and do our best not to cram pieces together with others where they, in context, do not really fit (using Contextual Criticism), even though what remains represents only about half of what was in the original box, a pretty good picture emerges...that is, if one is willing to accept that picture for what it is, regardless of how well it compares to or contrasts with the image created by Churchianity! Rick Lannoye, author of www.amazon.com/Real-Life-Jesus-Nazareth-Really-Stood-ebook/dp/B09V4BJ62D
7/1/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Thus says The Lord God of Israel: The Days of Noah are here, the Day of The Lord has come in; and behold, the Great and Dreadful Day is very near!... Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, O peoples of the earth, and gain wisdom: Are not the mountains risen up at the Word of My mouth? Do not the highest peaks break through the clouds at My command? Are not the depths carved out by My knowledge, and the seas filled according to My will? Who causes the clouds to gather together and bring forth rain? Who calls forth the wind from its place and stirs up the hurricane? Who speaks to the horrible mountain, causing it to burst forth, to spew its fervent heat? It is I who has done it, The One who formed it, The One who causes to be! My children, look upon the stars, upon the whole of the heavens, consider the vastness thereof, and know: YAH has spoken it into being, YAHUWAH caused it to be! Behold, I have spread out life like a blanket, and caused it to multiply in all the earth; life fills every corner! And still mankind seeks out its beginnings and longs to know its source, asking in vain, “Where did I come from, and why are we here? From what source did all this life come, and how did it get here? What is the beginning, and how will it end?” Blind and hard-hearted generation, deceived and ignorant peoples, foolish children, LIFE HAS A NAME! The Beginning and The End has walked among you! The Source and The Reason is here, and shall also come in great power and glory! From Him did you come forth, and to Him must you return, all you, His beloved. Behold, His names are many and wonderful![1] That which He is has no end, for as I AM so also is He! The Father and The Son are one, and our name, one - YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH! In the beginning was The Word, and The Word Was with God, and The Word was God; The same was in the beginning with God... Through Him all things came into being, And nothing in all creation was made apart from Him... In Him was life, and The Life was the light of men; The Light shines in the darkness, And the darkness shall not overcome it... And behold, The Word became flesh... Immanu El! www.thevolumesoftruth.com/The_One_Worthy_of_All_Praise
@@JohnQPublic11 you sound like a bitter and crying Republican 😂 making childish claims with no evidence or proof. Lots of fake news that's been disproved. BTW have said several times I'm not American so I'm neither party.
How to be saved?? By believing in Jesus Christ ONLY, it's NOT Jesus Christ and your actions!! How to be saved?? 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 Romans chapter 10 verses 9-13 Some back-up verses to rest in God's promise; Acts chapter 13 verse 39 Romans chapter 3 verse 20 Romans chapter 3 verse 28 Romans chapter 4 verse 5 Romans chapter 5 verse 9. Have a blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
Every day at 10:30pm (according to Indian Time) m on bed & sleeping after hearing these beautiful explanations❤️❤️
The Word is inerrant but our interpretation isn't always.
The Chicago statement is helpful.
I've been so blessed by J Piper!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
In other words the Bible was inspired and protected to be written through His Holy Spirit for our knowledge of who He is. However some statements aren’t true for eg. when Jesus was call Beelzebub amongst other names.
Pray for my chastity, thanks
I'm a Christian, and I question claims that the Bible is the actual word of God and "inerrant", can someone provide me resources which will answer this question, not a 9-minute convoluted answer which absolutely clarifies nothing in my mind, thank you.
‘History of The Bible’ by John Barton
Oxford New Annotated Bible
SBL Study Bible
I have no doubt that what was originally recorded by the various authors was from God. What I have difficulty with is how things got messed up going through at least four languages to end up with the bible we have today. Bottom line is, there is no general consensus as to what the majority of the bible says. Take Jeremiah chapter five for example. The English wording as we have it in our bibles is highly unlikely what Jeremiah was attempting to communicate because the Hebrew language is way nor complex than English is and the Hebrew words had more than one meaning which likely got mistranslated into English.
How to be saved?? By believing in Jesus Christ ONLY, it's NOT Jesus Christ and your actions!! How to be saved?? 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 Romans chapter 10 verses 9-13 Some back-up verses to rest in God's promise; Acts chapter 13 verse 39 Romans chapter 3 verse 20 Romans chapter 3 verse 28 Romans chapter 4 verse 5 Romans chapter 5 verse 9. Have a blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
The Quran, Bhagavad Gita, the Vedas and the book of Mormon all say they are the word god of their gods too. So who is telling the truth?
Which one of those gods came to earth as a human as a sacrifice for ALL human sin, past and present while man was still in sin and then rose from the grave 3 days later so that all mankind can now defeat the grave as He did and have eternal life just by simply believing in Him and repenting? Question, Why are we in the year 2023?
Which version of the bible do you read? Have you seen the bible changes in the KJV? Isaiah 11:6 and 65:25 use to say the "Lion will lay down with the lamb" That has now changed to the wolf. There are many other changes which are now in the KJV. see some of these verses below
Gen 1:1 says "heaven" instead of "heavens"
John 3:16 says "should" instead of "shall"
Luke 17:34-35 says "2 men in 1 bed"; and "2 women" grinding
Matt 7:1 "Judge not lest you be judged" is now "Judge n that ye be not judged"
Luke 1:35 now calls the baby Jesus in the womb a "thing"
Luke 19:27 now says Jesus said to" bring them here and slay them before me"
Matt 9:15-17 now says "bottles" instead of "wineskin
Matt 25:26-27 says "bank" instead of "money exchangers" NIV version
Matt 2:11 now says "house" instead of "manger"
1Cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (it was LOVE)
Rev 1:13 describes Jesus as "wearing a girdle and girt about the paps"
Also, these words are now in the KJV bible
"tires, mufflers, planes, steel, unicorns, mortgaged, cockatrice, Easter , stuff, bottles (not wine skins), matrix, nursing fathers and many many more"
There's too many words in the KJV which haven't been faithfully translated.
@@HearGodsWord Check your oldest bibles. They have been changed too. Amos 8:11-12 and Rev 22:18-19; say this is happening as foretold by GOD . Remember Jesus Christ is the Word of GOD. Rev 19:11-13 GOD BLESS YOU
@@michaelconley2008 one of my Bibles pre-dates the KJV!
Doesn't change that fact that the KJV has word translations which aren't faithful to the original Ancient Greek, which was the point I actually made.
What point are you making?
@@ReaganThatcher as I stated in both comment, there are word translation errors in the KJV.
Your belief in inerrancy is what makes the Bible "inerrant".
THE BIBLE IS BEST DESCRIBED AS A 10,000 PIECE JIGSAW PUZZLE...THAT IS MISSING ABOUT HALF THE PIECES!
If only we had one book that had descended to earth, directly from God, in words we all understood, and it contained only what God wanted for all of us, at all times and in every circumstance! There are more than a few religious leaders, preachers and teachers who try to make it seem like there is such a singular book they call THE BIBLE.
Trouble is--no such book exists!
What is so often called "THE Bible," is actually a very broad array of many different collections of books, in many different languages, not always containing the same books, which are not translated from the original copies of any of them, because every single one of the original "autographs" have been lost, and all we have are copies...of copies of copies of copies...and even those differ one from the other!
OK, so let's say we can at least agree that the original writings were, every one "inerrant." Apparently not!
At the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy, that was held in Chicago in October 1978, a very conservative group, came out with a statement declaring what "inerrancy" of the bible meant, and all they did was re-define the meaning of the word "inerrancy" to exclude the 1000s of discrepancies between all the copies of copies of copies of texts that had been discovered up to that time, and they refused to recognize the results of the discipline of Contextual Criticism, the way all legit scholars of antiquity determine what parts of any copy of ancient documents is most likely in accord with the originals and which are not!
OK, so let's just say we could agree on what scholars tell us which texts most likely represent the original writings of the bible books...then you have to ask, "Which books?"
Today's Protestant Bible, for example, has 27 New Testament books, but before 1807, it had only 26, before the American Bible Society surreptitiously removed the Introduction page to the apocryphal books, like Revelation, which was often added to their printed editions!
OK, so let's say we agree on what Protestants thought of as "The" Bible books before the 19th Century. Then how to know which parts of the that Bible represent God speaking to us today, and which parts not? Jesus, himself, said the Law of Moses was given for the hardness of men's hearts, a stop gap measure, not the full and final version of what God really wanted to tell us!
OK, so let's say, for Christians, what really matters is what Jesus said, and everything else, such as the Old Testament and the later Epistles, must be interpreted through the prism of what Jesus taught and not the other way around.
Well, maybe we're now getting to the heart of the matter...as long as we understand Jesus often spoke in parables, and more than a few times, employed the use of hyperbole, and probably because his real views, had he expressed them openly and unreservedly from the get go of his public ministry, he would have been killed right away, and we would never have even heard of him...so he also spoke as if he agreed with what the Pharisees taught, only to put a little twist on them, as his way of conveying his real positions but only to those "who had ears to hear."
Is, then, "inerrancy" the word to describe the process of peeling back all the many layers of trying to get at what Jesus of Nazareth was really driving at and what was, centuries after their deaths, attributed to Moses, the Jewish prophets and writers of the New Testament?
Well, how about another term that much better fits what we have to work with--a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle!
Depending on what's included (just the Greek and Hebrew or the Latin and other language versions), there are somewhere between 6,000 and 20,000 texts of the Bible, none of them the originals, but copies of copies of copies.
So, more than a few people are content to claim one version of this puzzle, pieced together by representatives of one particular religious sect that began when a murderous king wanted to get rid of his Catholic wife that could not bear him a male heir, the King James Bible, is somehow miraculously equal to the original autographs, and every part of it (well, as cherry picked and then proclaimed from pulpits) represents what God says to everyone today.
However, if we apply honest scholarship to weed out all the fake pieces someone cut out and added to the box (using Textual Criticism), and do our best not to cram pieces together with others where they, in context, do not really fit (using Contextual Criticism), even though what remains represents only about half of what was in the original box, a pretty good picture emerges...that is, if one is willing to accept that picture for what it is, regardless of how well it compares to or contrasts with the image created by Churchianity!
Rick Lannoye, author of www.amazon.com/Real-Life-Jesus-Nazareth-Really-Stood-ebook/dp/B09V4BJ62D
7/1/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior
The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy
For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear
Thus says The Lord God of Israel: The Days of Noah are here, the Day of The Lord has come in; and behold, the Great and Dreadful Day is very near!...
Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, O peoples of the earth, and gain wisdom: Are not the mountains risen up at the Word of My mouth? Do not the highest peaks break through the clouds at My command? Are not the depths carved out by My knowledge, and the seas filled according to My will? Who causes the clouds to gather together and bring forth rain? Who calls forth the wind from its place and stirs up the hurricane? Who speaks to the horrible mountain, causing it to burst forth, to spew its fervent heat? It is I who has done it, The One who formed it, The One who causes to be! My children, look upon the stars, upon the whole of the heavens, consider the vastness thereof, and know: YAH has spoken it into being, YAHUWAH caused it to be!
Behold, I have spread out life like a blanket, and caused it to multiply in all the earth; life fills every corner! And still mankind seeks out its beginnings and longs to know its source, asking in vain, “Where did I come from, and why are we here? From what source did all this life come, and how did it get here? What is the beginning, and how will it end?”
Blind and hard-hearted generation, deceived and ignorant peoples, foolish children, LIFE HAS A NAME! The Beginning and The End has walked among you! The Source and The Reason is here, and shall also come in great power and glory! From Him did you come forth, and to Him must you return, all you, His beloved. Behold, His names are many and wonderful![1] That which He is has no end, for as I AM so also is He! The Father and The Son are one, and our name, one - YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH!
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word
Was with God, and The Word was God;
The same was in the beginning with God...
Through Him all things came into being,
And nothing in all creation was made apart from Him...
In Him was life, and The Life was the light of men;
The Light shines in the darkness,
And the darkness shall not overcome it...
And behold, The Word became flesh...
Immanu El!
www.thevolumesoftruth.com/The_One_Worthy_of_All_Praise
While the Bible is inerrant; Reformed Theology is an endless morass of fallacious mindless gibberish. As I have proven time and time again.
cool story bro!
You've never proven anything on here 😂
@@HearGodsWord --- lol! You sound like a Democrat claiming there wasn't any voter fraud.
@@JohnQPublic11 you sound like a bitter and crying Republican 😂 making childish claims with no evidence or proof. Lots of fake news that's been disproved.
BTW have said several times I'm not American so I'm neither party.
How to be saved?? By believing in Jesus Christ ONLY, it's NOT Jesus Christ and your actions!! How to be saved?? 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses
1-4 Romans chapter 10 verses 9-13 Some back-up verses to rest in God's promise; Acts chapter 13 verse 39 Romans chapter 3 verse 20
Romans chapter 3 verse 28 Romans chapter 4 verse 5 Romans chapter 5 verse 9. Have a blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!