Dad showing his son how to do a skill in this case welding a shaft to a drum. I remember my father showing me how to do something and then letting me try it. This is how our world worked in the past. Glad to see it happening again. Another great video!
Flats on shaft end are for us maintenance technicians to place a wrench to turn the shaft. Unlike the wrench turning gorillas that use pipe wrench on the shaft itself. That always made disassembly of equipment that much more fun.
He’s one good little helper you got there! Teach him all you know you’re one very skilled man and this country needs guys like you and your boy-good looking jeep too!
Stumbled on your channel and was not disappointed. When I seen the little guy helping, I had instant flashbacks of my old man teaching me to MIG for the first time at 6. Awesome!
Awesome. Teach our children the skills they need to survive in this world. Well Done dad. Like father like son. Love to see it. Good JOB young man way to stand in there and get er done.
Any man can be a “father”…but a DAD…will take the time out of his day to put the stinger in his boy’s hands just to see that smile…on BOTH their faces! Thanks Dad!
Watching the young boy welding with his Dad brought back fond memories of working with my Son many years ago. That experience will stay with him for life. Well done job there, it turned out to be easier than I thought it would be. Great video. 😀😀👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
Fun fact about the shafting diameters. Ive been in industrial sales for 9 years now and learned this from a late mentor. The shafting industry generally did 2" dia shafts, however their extruders eerent grewt back then. So they would do TGP (turn/ground/polish) the shafts and that woulf make the new diameter 1-15/16" and true enough to slide your bearing onto there. Just trying to answer your question on the "weird" shaft diameters. This is also repeated for 1-7/16", 1-15/16", 2-7/16", and so forth until about 6-15/16" for all sorts of applications.
Dammit, you just had to say loogies and tobacco spit while I was eating. At least it was chips and salsa and not guacamole.😆 Little man did a great job too. That’s special brother, no wonder you work so hard.🤘🏼
You and your son are lucky to have each other. I also try to teach my boy every thing that I know, although I haven’t brought him to my shop yet to work because we have tons of brake dust airborne most of the time but I love seeing how you teach your kid. Happy father’s day brotha
Parenting done right! Teach him a trade and that it's ok to get your hands dirty. Poor maintenance kills more equipment than anything. Stay safe and God bless
It is 1 and 15/16 because it is ground shaft that is a standard (1/16 under) for any ground shafts because they start with a 2 inch (or appropriate size) bar to harden and grind. Makes it a lot easier to get a nice bearing fit at any point on the bar. I would probably have welded that shaft up and turned it without taking the drum off as it looks like they have already balanced it. I did one very similar to that last week and the machine shop charged me 70 dollars to turn it. Took them less than a half hour after I had it welded up.
Good on you bud! There's gonna be a day he'll look back and be happy to share a good memory. I always like to see stuff like that because I never had that and I wish I did. Anyway hopefully you will have many more of good memories.
I dont if they could even get access to it - but that register on the end might be so they can put a big spanner on it and manually turn the drum backwards if something gets stuck. I was also hoping you put the shaft in the right way around, as the drum probably has to turn in one direction :)
Enjoyed the video very much. Thank you for all your hard work to make this content for us. We’re lucky to have folks out there setting the bar so high. Many of aspire to have your skills.
Maybe a future investment in a 'Spray metal torch' could be considered? that way you can rebuild the diameter of the worn shaft, rather than replacing the entire shaft. You'd probably need a bigger lathe though to turn the diameter back to 1 and 15/16ths. But it could be an option for repairing some shafts with the lathe you have?
Good tip, dimple the shaft with a drill bit where the grub screws lock onto. In my experience stops them coming loose. Cheers Greg, newish sub just binge watching your videos. I fit roller doors here in UK and the dimple method works for us.
I did a can shredder years ago. And hard coat. Nice job! I retired in 2019 after 46 years. I did keep 1 welding truck. And I tinker in my shop here on and off. Keep up the good work! And videos! I watch them all the time. It’s gets on your blood it does fixing. And I’m still learning watching you young guys! Kent Smith Welding
Look for the Hypertherm "HyAccess" attachments. They're great for getting into tight places with your torch tip. More precise, too. Baker's Gas sells the kits.
In industrial machinery, shaft sizes run on the 16ths, motors and gearboxes run on the 8ths or 1", 1 1/2", 2" etc. most of the time, but there is always that one guy that has to be different.
There are two schools of thought on equipment maintenance, run it till it fails then fix it, or fix it before it fails. I’ve worked in places that had both and there are good reasons for both methodologies. Preventive maintenance where you’re changing out a lot of parts prior to failure is what airlines do and it’s very expensive. Whereas with a can crusher no one’s life is on the line when the machine goes down and you have a one off cost for the failure. Horses for courses.
Nice work, again! I bought my little guy a mig welder for his 9th bday. He loves welding! I found a lot of pins are 1 15/16" O.D. and are used with 2" I.D. D.O.M. bushing stock. One application I can think of off hand are the draft arms on Hilbilt dump trailers. So I'm guessing it is just a popular size when used with a 2" hole. (a nice 1/32" clearance all around) You mentioned that drum spins at high speed. How did you find EXACT center? And did you have to balance it? I would think even the slightest C hair off center would make a lot of vibration???
I did not balance it. But it wouldn’t be a bad idea to do that. It doesn’t spin super fast maybe 150 rpm. I watched it spin and I didn’t see or feel any vibration. To find center I measured from the shaft out to the edge of the drum.
I think the 1 15/16" shafting is common for Turned ,Ground and Polished 1045 shafting , thinking they start with 2" and TGP it.....a few years ago, I bought 2 sticks each [20'] of 1 15/16, 2. 15/16m and 3 15/16 , at a scrap yard, beautiful material.....was wondering why it was a .062 smaller.....I was learning to use a lathe and wanted some material.....made all types of stuff from that material.....the 3 15/16 was 42 lbs a foot.....good thing my buddy had a 2 ton flat bed to help me get it home......let me know if this makes sense.....Paul
This reminds me of our Ransomes mower. The shafts for the blades have 1" diameter where the belt wheels are sitting, but the rest where the bearings are have metric 25mm.
I believe the flats are for when it gets over loaded or something in it not aluminum so u can spin it backwards with a wrench to free it up and remove the blockage
A lot of companies saw reducing Mntc as an immediate/instant savings in operating costs including being able to layoff/fire/early retirement offerings to senior high earning Mntc & engineering employees/workforce reduction programs because retirement pay money came out of a different pot/fund. Often they did not understand that it often meant more likely/more frequent unplanned downtime(loss of production & income) more expensive and longer down times as spare parts were sold off and no longer immediately available in reducing their warehouse inventory and taxes on that inventory and more expensive Mntc like having to hire a knowledgeable contractor to come in and work on it because the equipment experts took the early out/retirement packages. Even electric utilities went through it. A lot suffered worse impact than expected because there was not as wide of an overlap in reviews by really knowledgeable personnel like different departments(operations, Mntc, chemistry, engineering) including how near the equipment was to the end of its reliable performance and feasible Mntc/rebuild expectations and benefits to the plant to allow some things to run to failure and perform an equipment upgrade during a planned shutdown when materials and workers would already be onsite but surprises still happened when bean counters over rode the decision of the people most familiar with the equipment and it’s impact on plant operations and turn around time like Mntc and operations and the bean counter’s(financial fellas/gals) decision was often seen as more important.
I drive end dump & lowboy, I do my pretrip inspection & post trip, I've found things in both . A simple walk around inspection & give it a pump of grease would & does wonders.
I wonder if the slot on the end of the shaft opposite the key might be used for breaking loose the drum when it gets stuck? It seems about the right size for something like a pipe wrench or a spud wrench.
Cute kiddo. Pretty excellent you take the time to encourage and show him. Nice work with the fix! How would you center the shaft if the hole was oversized?
A decent welder can get metal to stick together. A good welder can make a beautiful bead. I don't know what to call a welder who can create a beautiful bead holding the nozzle while someone else holds the trigger. Well done getting him familiar with this equipment young.
In the conveyors at the quarry I used to work at we had 1 15/16 and 2 15/16 shafts on quite a few drive drums and tail pulleys. It does seem like an odd size
You're correct you could have done better with a fuel /gas torch! That plasma torch cut like a beaver with one bad tooth !! I'll bet an air arc gouger would have worked better on that shaft also.
I would of put the bearings on then chalk them up on stands,then you COULD spin it to make sure it is centered. I seen you have used a gauge on repairing pins on buckets.
Asking a question for a friend , how did you center the new shaft in the drum? Would like to have seen it run to see if it’s in tolerance or wobbles like a chicken with its head chopped off. Probably good enough for half of the cans. Great videos and job watching for more.
I measured from the shaft to the outside of the drum in multiple spots and got the same measurement. It seems to run very smooth. I would have shown that but the machines saftey features won’t allow it.
😎👍😎 Hopefully..none of Them..will figure out that equipment needs constant attension..oil,grease,tighten this up... Otherwise..most of us would be out of a job..🥺😉😄
Weld in taper lock hubs, that way shaft replacement is easy. Because it will need it again. Use eccentric lock bearings they do not work loose as easy.
My dad was a dentist and one can imagine the reaction of an extraction patient if told "Hang on a moment, my seven year old son will remove that tooth. He's learning fast so don't worry, I'll be guiding his forceps hand while he does it."
What some people need 2 realize is that sometimes it's cheaper to replace the rod or part rather than welding it up it costs time which drives up the cost etc
Dad showing his son how to do a skill in this case welding a shaft to a drum. I remember my father showing me how to do something and then letting me try it. This is how our world worked in the past. Glad to see it happening again. Another great video!
Amazing repair and it’s great to see the kid get in on the action, he’s lucky to be learning from one of the best in the biz.
I hope your as nice as this with every one you have some type of human interaction with. (I doubt it somehow…😂🤣😂)
@@miniadventureswithmark3309 wtf is wrong with you
Imagine if the company saw a 5 year old working in their part haha.
Flats on shaft end are for us maintenance technicians to place a wrench to turn the shaft. Unlike the wrench turning gorillas that use pipe wrench on the shaft itself. That always made disassembly of equipment that much more fun.
The flats are also with a spanner turn the drum in reverse to unblock it if need be I believe.
Precious with the kid Home Boy! See, I knew under all of that bravado there was a kinder, gentler giant! Love the vids Brother!
Nothing better than having your little guy helping you. He will remember those days forever. Good for you!
Great shot of your son! Welding! Great memories for sure! Thanks for sharing!
He’s one good little helper you got there! Teach him all you know you’re one very skilled man and this country needs guys like you and your boy-good looking jeep too!
Stumbled on your channel and was not disappointed. When I seen the little guy helping, I had instant flashbacks of my old man teaching me to MIG for the first time at 6. Awesome!
Loved that. Man teaching his son is a life lesson he will always remember.
so kool to see you showing your Son how to weld and letting him work on that piece.......he is one Lucky Lad and you Sir, are one Lucky Dad........
Awesome. Teach our children the skills they need to survive in this world. Well Done dad. Like father like son. Love to see it. Good JOB young man way to stand in there and get er done.
Genuinely thought he was going to build it up with weld and then cut back with a lathe. New stock was a surprise to me.
Lol not sure why he didn’t. But I guess getting a simple shaft and some mill work, is way cheaper than his actual man hours.
A lot less work
Any man can be a “father”…but a DAD…will take the time out of his day to put the stinger in his boy’s hands just to see that smile…on BOTH their faces!
Thanks Dad!
Good to see the young-man getting into the project. This is what we need more of in this world. Good job!
I did the same with my boy years ago. i can't see well enough to weld now. He's got my back, and is better than I ever was.
Has always, a very interesting and informative video. You've shown once again that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Greg: it is Greg right? just what I needed on this Friday afternoon......best wishes from Florida, Paul......
Yes it’s Greg. Thank you.
@@OFW Greg, you have a fine looking son there.....getting some good education with Dad....best wishes, Paul
Good repair nice to see you with your son someone to inherit your tools
Watching the young boy welding with his Dad brought back fond memories of working with my Son many years ago. That experience will stay with him for life. Well done job there, it turned out to be easier than I thought it would be. Great video. 😀😀👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
Fun fact about the shafting diameters. Ive been in industrial sales for 9 years now and learned this from a late mentor. The shafting industry generally did 2" dia shafts, however their extruders eerent grewt back then. So they would do TGP (turn/ground/polish) the shafts and that woulf make the new diameter 1-15/16" and true enough to slide your bearing onto there. Just trying to answer your question on the "weird" shaft diameters. This is also repeated for 1-7/16", 1-15/16", 2-7/16", and so forth until about 6-15/16" for all sorts of applications.
Welding with the kid! Absolutely brilliant!
SO cool ! Step by step precision guided by the little man adding cred to the whole game plan. BEAUtiful ~
Dammit, you just had to say loogies and tobacco spit while I was eating. At least it was chips and salsa and not guacamole.😆 Little man did a great job too. That’s special brother, no wonder you work so hard.🤘🏼
great work, good to get your kids started learning . grandpa thought me . still going .. keep the can rolling , enjoyed
You and your son are lucky to have each other. I also try to teach my boy every thing that I know, although I haven’t brought him to my shop yet to work because we have tons of brake dust airborne most of the time but I love seeing how you teach your kid. Happy father’s day brotha
He is absolutely so adorable
Another great job , an loved seeing your son there with you striking an arc an welding ! 👍👍
awesome lil helper and his love for the jeep!!! and great lil welder too
Parenting done right! Teach him a trade and that it's ok to get your hands dirty. Poor maintenance kills more equipment than anything. Stay safe and God bless
It is 1 and 15/16 because it is ground shaft that is a standard (1/16 under) for any ground shafts because they start with a 2 inch (or appropriate size) bar to harden and grind. Makes it a lot easier to get a nice bearing fit at any point on the bar. I would probably have welded that shaft up and turned it without taking the drum off as it looks like they have already balanced it. I did one very similar to that last week and the machine shop charged me 70 dollars to turn it. Took them less than a half hour after I had it welded up.
I agree David, I think your idea seems much cheaper, less intrusive. Line borer would have eaten that up too.
Or could have been spray welded on a lathe then turned down. Much faster repair and like you mentioned doesn't mess up the balancing.
Good on you bud! There's gonna be a day he'll look back and be happy to share a good memory. I always like to see stuff like that because I never had that and I wish I did. Anyway hopefully you will have many more of good memories.
there is an old saying, "Get them young , treat them rough , and they will never leave you " or teach them young and they will follow
I dont if they could even get access to it - but that register on the end might be so they can put a big spanner on it and manually turn the drum backwards if something gets stuck. I was also hoping you put the shaft in the right way around, as the drum probably has to turn in one direction :)
Absolutely adorable. What a treasure
Enjoyed the video very much. Thank you for all your hard work to make this content for us. We’re lucky to have folks out there setting the bar so high. Many of aspire to have your skills.
Maybe a future investment in a 'Spray metal torch' could be considered? that way you can rebuild the diameter of the worn shaft, rather than replacing the entire shaft. You'd probably need a bigger lathe though to turn the diameter back to 1 and 15/16ths. But it could be an option for repairing some shafts with the lathe you have?
Wish they had kid size helmets or even goggles when I were a lad... but hey Dad tried! rip Pop, bless.
I admire your skill as well as your ability to approach these situations calmly! Also as a electrician I appreciated the use of Mule Tape!
I suspect your channel will take off soon. Keep up the good work!
That little guy was welding! The helmet is almost as big as him lol! What a confidence booster. Great filming
One black cape and you're half way to Darth Helmut too 😄
@@jimsvideos7201 🤣
Good tip, dimple the shaft with a drill bit where the grub screws lock onto. In my experience stops them coming loose.
Cheers Greg, newish sub just binge watching your videos. I fit roller doors here in UK and the dimple method works for us.
I did a can shredder years ago. And hard coat. Nice job! I retired in 2019 after 46 years. I did keep 1 welding truck. And I tinker in my shop here on and off. Keep up the good work! And videos! I watch them all the time. It’s gets on your blood it does fixing. And I’m still learning watching you young guys! Kent Smith Welding
Ha I just checked yesterday to see if I missed any vids. Glad ur still here as I'm a new sub
This one was awesome! Love to see a kid earning his stripes!
nice fit up on that keyway, soooooo satisflying.
I always beleive be happy that people dont service or care about things keep us in work
Wow that’s all I can say 🇨🇦 IC Welding and your channel is the best .
Kind of seems like that thing should be balanced again after your repair.
That’s probably not a bad idea.
@@OFW I love your work, thanks for sharing it with us on RUclips. I hope you get a ton of subs.
Wondering if you need to balance the role, because it spinning at high speed?
Those flats are to reverse the drum when it gets bound up. Guess a big arse all'16ths and hitty hammer is all that would be used.
Great vid mate👍
Look for the Hypertherm "HyAccess" attachments. They're great for getting into tight places with your torch tip. More precise, too. Baker's Gas sells the kits.
I have some of those. They work great.
In industrial machinery, shaft sizes run on the 16ths, motors and gearboxes run on the 8ths or 1", 1 1/2", 2" etc. most of the time, but there is always that one guy that has to be different.
There are two schools of thought on equipment maintenance, run it till it fails then fix it, or fix it before it fails. I’ve worked in places that had both and there are good reasons for both methodologies. Preventive maintenance where you’re changing out a lot of parts prior to failure is what airlines do and it’s very expensive. Whereas with a can crusher no one’s life is on the line when the machine goes down and you have a one off cost for the failure. Horses for courses.
Nice work, again! I bought my little guy a mig welder for his 9th bday. He loves welding!
I found a lot of pins are 1 15/16" O.D. and are used with 2" I.D. D.O.M. bushing stock. One application I can think of off hand are the draft arms on Hilbilt dump trailers. So I'm guessing it is just a popular size when used with a 2" hole. (a nice 1/32" clearance all around)
You mentioned that drum spins at high speed. How did you find EXACT center? And did you have to balance it? I would think even the slightest C hair off center would make a lot of vibration???
Bro, you changed that kid’s life. Father of the day homie.🤘🏼
I did not balance it. But it wouldn’t be a bad idea to do that. It doesn’t spin super fast maybe 150 rpm. I watched it spin and I didn’t see or feel any vibration. To find center I measured from the shaft out to the edge of the drum.
love the kid having a crack. i learnt to weld barefoot myself :)
I think the 1 15/16" shafting is common for Turned ,Ground and Polished 1045 shafting , thinking they start with 2" and TGP it.....a few years ago, I bought 2 sticks each [20'] of 1 15/16, 2. 15/16m and 3 15/16 , at a scrap yard, beautiful material.....was wondering why it was a .062 smaller.....I was learning to use a lathe and wanted some material.....made all types of stuff from that material.....the 3 15/16 was 42 lbs a foot.....good thing my buddy had a 2 ton flat bed to help me get it home......let me know if this makes sense.....Paul
This reminds me of our Ransomes mower. The shafts for the blades have 1" diameter where the belt wheels are sitting, but the rest where the bearings are have metric 25mm.
Great to see this. Really educational too!☘️👍
Great Greg to see the little guy welding priceless sir 💯👍🏻🫵🏻
I believe the flats are for when it gets over loaded or something in it not aluminum so u can spin it backwards with a wrench to free it up and remove the blockage
👍👍☝️😎✌️… It’s sad that teachers do not make much money. But that’s not why they teach. Great video!
What absolute hell… You’re a hell of an engineer.
Nice Buick !!! I had a '67 Gold Black Top ,,,
Including your son is awesome!
A lot of companies saw reducing Mntc as an immediate/instant savings in operating costs including being able to layoff/fire/early retirement offerings to senior high earning Mntc & engineering employees/workforce reduction programs because retirement pay money came out of a different pot/fund. Often they did not understand that it often meant more likely/more frequent unplanned downtime(loss of production & income) more expensive and longer down times as spare parts were sold off and no longer immediately available in reducing their warehouse inventory and taxes on that inventory and more expensive Mntc like having to hire a knowledgeable contractor to come in and work on it because the equipment experts took the early out/retirement packages. Even electric utilities went through it. A lot suffered worse impact than expected because there was not as wide of an overlap in reviews by really knowledgeable personnel like different departments(operations, Mntc, chemistry, engineering) including how near the equipment was to the end of its reliable performance and feasible Mntc/rebuild expectations and benefits to the plant to allow some things to run to failure and perform an equipment upgrade during a planned shutdown when materials and workers would already be onsite but surprises still happened when bean counters over rode the decision of the people most familiar with the equipment and it’s impact on plant operations and turn around time like Mntc and operations and the bean counter’s(financial fellas/gals) decision was often seen as more important.
I drive end dump & lowboy, I do my pretrip inspection & post trip, I've found things in both . A simple walk around inspection & give it a pump of grease would & does wonders.
cute kid, he's a better welder than myself!...you do great work! keep it up.
The flats on the shaft, if the drum jams, it can be rotated without leaving pipe wrench marks on the shaft.
You get all the good jobs 👍🏼👌✌️
You know the little dudes dad is welder when the little dude can weld with sparks flying and he’s wearing shorts and short sleeves🤩🤩🤩
I love that boy learning at such a young age! Did ya take him for a ride in the Jeep?
Burn baby Burn! Gettin that sucker balanced is gonna be fun.
All I could think about was how pissed his mom was going to be when she saw the quarter inch burn mark on his foot, I think you dodged a bullet there.
Thanks guys great job 🦘👍
Put some of that cat yellow on ends..
Nice touch, plus good for safety sake..
I wonder if the slot on the end of the shaft opposite the key might be used for breaking loose the drum when it gets stuck? It seems about the right size for something like a pipe wrench or a spud wrench.
Cute kiddo. Pretty excellent you take the time to encourage and show him. Nice work with the fix! How would you center the shaft if the hole was oversized?
Measure from the outside in or put it on the lathe and balance it.
A decent welder can get metal to stick together. A good welder can make a beautiful bead. I don't know what to call a welder who can create a beautiful bead holding the nozzle while someone else holds the trigger. Well done getting him familiar with this equipment young.
In the conveyors at the quarry I used to work at we had 1 15/16 and 2 15/16 shafts on quite a few drive drums and tail pulleys. It does seem like an odd size
what a nice buddy!
Sometimes I wish youtube had smell-o-vision, sometimes I'm glad it doesn't.
I believe the shaft is 50mm or 1 15/16” Imperial. Might be why the manufacturer didn’t make it an even 2”.
You're correct you could have done better with a fuel /gas torch! That plasma torch cut like a beaver with one bad tooth !! I'll bet an air arc gouger would have worked better on that shaft also.
Nothing like makin" memories with your son!
Looks to me like the shaft is salvageable. Weld it up and turn it down. And it will be balanced or as balanced as it ever was.
Hmmm … a little lack of care resulted in an expensive repair! I have been guilty of this more than once in my lifetime.
I would of put the bearings on then chalk them up on stands,then you COULD spin it to make sure it is centered. I seen you have used a gauge on repairing pins on buckets.
Asking a question for a friend , how did you center the new shaft in the drum? Would like to have seen it run to see if it’s in tolerance or wobbles like a chicken with its head chopped off. Probably good enough for half of the cans. Great videos and job watching for more.
I measured from the shaft to the outside of the drum in multiple spots and got the same measurement. It seems to run very smooth. I would have shown that but the machines saftey features won’t allow it.
68 or 69 Lemans or gto on the rack.
Nice repair job.
😎👍😎
Hopefully..none of Them..will figure out that equipment needs constant attension..oil,grease,tighten this up...
Otherwise..most of us would be out of a job..🥺😉😄
Weld in taper lock hubs, that way shaft replacement is easy. Because it will need it again. Use eccentric lock bearings they do not work loose as easy.
“Little lube never hurt” 😂😂😂
Good video. I guess when dad is ready to retire, the business will remain in the family.
My dad was a dentist and one can imagine the reaction of an extraction patient if told "Hang on a moment, my seven year old son will remove that tooth. He's learning fast so don't worry, I'll be guiding his forceps hand while he does it."
is the new shaft expensive? cut the shaft in half and put the good ends out and weld it back together
Flat for wrench to turn drum manually when shredded metal causes drum to jam against shredding surface
I know it's too late but-----Could you have mounted the whole thing in a lathe, built up the shaft, and turned it to size?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
What some people need 2 realize is that sometimes it's cheaper to replace the rod or part rather than welding it up it costs time which drives up the cost etc
If the parts were available some of the things I fix would just get replaced.
Great little helper😎😎😎
Safety squints engaged.
I’m not a welder, just trying to learn….would this be considered gouging out the weld?👍
Yes. Plasma gouging