Same ngl and John is a developer in tds at like 2020 or 2019 and also John is has helped tds to grow and now become the most popular tower defense game like it's more than ttd guys bcs he is a legend to
tds is shit though, Like it’s horribly unbalanced, they add nothing to the game, the only reason why I would like the game is because I find hardcore fun but even then, the diversity for strats in hardcore is shit, meanwhile in tdx stuff are way more balanced and it looks like tdx will have a bright future with biweekly updated.
Maybe tdx has more points at this video but tds is a game that is one of the old developer is John so it's not really make sense if tdx good than tds bcs tds has alot things to do but boring
Honestly, tds and tdx are both good games. I'd say its tied cuz tdx has a lack of content and tds has more gamemodes or something else i dont know how to describe it 😭
Tdx is really impressive its only been 6 months since release and they update about every 2-4 weeks either balance patches or a couple of new towers but the amount of content they do have right now is decent and the tower battles event is gonna be fire
TDS and TDX are that kind of duo that when you completed everything in one game,you play another (pretty much like Blox fruit and King legacy) So that we can play tower defense TWICE
Interesting fact: in the first initial seconds, we see two trailers that John created (the tds trailer was created in order for tds to win the awards, the other trailer describes tdx, so to speak)
gameplay to tds. Especially if we include solar eclipse Gamemodes to tds. nuclear monster, wox the fox, gunslinger, fallen, molten, easy, hardcore, intermediate things that aren't in the debate: beginner friendly: tds Difficulty: Tdx (debatable af) Grindy:tds by a long shot Enjoyability: (both are extremely close in this category) Replayability: TDS (the only reason why is because u can constantly change gamemodes and still get 500+ coins) thats all
Tdx is the most grindy game it takes up to 200 hours to get warship, TDS game modes all have the same taste and don't really shoot for something different, just letting you know that this is my opinion, and I don't find TDS really much replay able the matches get boring after 1 match and for pro players it's the same thing over and over again, most of the time they have all the towers in the game and have to wait for a update in 4 months that gives them a tower that takes 2 hours of grinding if they don't even have the coins or gems before. Another thing in my opinion is that tdx gives you a starter tower which you can beat the 2nd easiest mode in the game with l. All respects to TDS still a great game.
At least u can actually say that these are bosses Not some big guy stomping to stun ur towers and then walk away from them even if the "boss" has a weapon. But ig yeah John could make these game modes more unique
lets just appreciate that the 2 only good tower defense games rn are the 2 most loved among tower defense fans ovr instead of smth like ttd but tower batles and blitz still good but outdated
@@neoninjing6975they had a year of development time as well as 5 months of being out. At 1 year and 5 months tdx literally collabed with roblox and made multiple good events. John took too long focusing on graphics, which doesn't matter as gameplay is far far far better and also makes it extremely hard to update tdx. Tdx was a complete fail mostly due to that, and they have skin gambling, terrible grinding and progression system, and degenerate devs and a terrible community
@@yesblao7305 ye plus that some of the players play tdx with full of skill and Battle iq because of it and plus when you play endless mode on mobile your phone can't take anymore because of graphics explosion effect and lots of gun firing
Wdym skin gambling tds also have skin gambling and not only that there more of the skin that mean you can’t just said TDX have more gambling. Terrible grinding and progression system? TDX is still in beta doesn’t mean is still perfect and good. Third what do you mean about terrible community i’ll understand that in discord chat they just spamming chat and sending meme. Fourth you can’t just blaming john for focus on graphics he planing this game for about 1 years and do you want the game to be low graphics? Fifth TDS have been copying TDX many times example: INTERMEDIATE MODE , Mercenary base , Cryomancer , Rework commander (that can spawn APC) and abilities (I don’t know if TDX can allow TDS to copy them). Last YESBLAO7305 you need to understand if you love TDS COMMUNTY THAT MUCH JUST DON’T COMMENT IN THIS VIDEO EVEN TO NEONINJING6975 (I’m just disappointed at tds right now they copied tdx and i haven’t played tds)
@@Nobodyknow-y7l I'm not really wanna start a argument but I'm gonna answer your points, 1. Even if TDS also has skin gambling, most of the skins are available from coins and most of them actually look good. 2. The game has been in development since 2021, If in almost 3 YEARS of development they couldn't make the grinding and progression be actually enjoyable, you can't really complain about TDS' grinding and progression system, since TDS atleast awards you with some free towers, unlike TDX that you gotta pay for all towers. 3. I don't know about this one too much, but if he said that it's probably from experience. 4. Doomspire Defense is literally a game that don't focus too much on details and graphics, but the game still is more enjoyable than TDX to me. 5. Mercenary Base, Intermediate Mode and Commander rework doesn't look like NOTHING inside of TDX. You just said that with only words and no actual proof. 6 and last. This video has TDS involved in it, why he can't come here and say anything? And as you said, you didn't even play TDS, and that makes your whole fifth point COMPLETELY INVALID. Please don't try making points when you don't have experience in things.
@@Nikosentiana338 so here the modes for tdx and tds Tdx - Easy, Intermediate, Elite, Expert,... ENDLESS/NIGHTMARE Special: Events. Tds - Normal/Easy, Molten, Fallen, (No golden? ;sonic face;) Special: Hardcore, Events.
@@RatterTatterGaming Even if, there is a total of 4, if we don't count these + one upcoming, so it's a tie ( TDX has estimated 4 in total and 1 upcoming too )
people be glazing tdx cuz its owned by a popular youtuber nahh 😭🙏 dont get me wrong tdx is actually really good but it aint better than tds yet brother
@@unjustly_7 John roblox also got most of his subs from criminality and TDS so if he didn’t play tds then well his channel wouldn’t be as popular as he is today
TDX may face a more mature audience but well thats what i enjoy. But TDS was a lot of fun. Just not so many interesting towers getting added anymore ☹️
Tbh this edit is fax, more graphic, more boss animation and towers dance when the game is finished. Better gameplay as you don’t get bored that quickly unlike tds, I used to play it but got bored after a while, In addition, towers have better animation and realism, given that on the upgrades, John actually states the gun that he puts and has more real life towers like warship, armoured factory,. Also the guns that TDX uses are really detailed and are actually real. For Gamemode, TDX has the Christmas even as well as an easy, intermediate, Elite, Expert and also an Endless mode which well if you want to test how good you are, you can! It has more collab given that they did it with tower battles, criminality and something else I forgot.
My favorite parts about tds: the maps,the tower designs/ reworks and how they revamped everything My favorite parts of tdx: many Enemies Epic looking skins,tdx is barely p2w Unlike Most games
Ultra cap, gamemodes goes to tds because it has 6 gamemodes that have more waves. Gameplay goes to tds since it has more gamemodes and waves not to mention its less grindy then tdx. And idk how but tdx is less original then tds. Also collabs because the tb one was a straighr up cashgrab
Gameplay? You mean content? TDX has better gameplay, TDS has more content. And what do you mean less grindy? New players can't even beat rhe first "easy mode" without the help of stronger players, john said the TB skins are ONLY for funding. The next collab with criminality will probably use coins to obtain. You say TDX is more grindy when you have... Lets see.... Golden skins, accelerator, and ENGINEER. TDX is better, Beta stage already has more gameplay than TDS having 4 years of age. And what do you mean less original??? TDS was literally just a straight copy from TB in first release. Warship is VERY high level due to a VERY simple reason... Warship isn't finished and isn't meant to be obtained that easily, they will make it easier to obtain once it's fully made.
You have to be a actual idiot to not expect TB collab to be a cashgrab... Games nees funding when they were first made, look at TDS having discounts for micro-transactions in their intitial release bro. TDX also has a brighter future as the developers actually put care into the game rather than TDS releasing a skin crate every 6 months and botched events like lunar overture, christmas 2023 is goated i have to admit still
@@OrionsRapture your saying that tdx has more content even though it has everything tds has but less, for example how many modes in tdx go to wave 40? how many modes are there in tds? 7. In tdx? 4. Its more grindy because- come on, in tds you can get towers like shotgunner, soldier, demo in like 2-3 games. And the most expensive coin tower is 8k, now tdx on the other hand, the cheapest is already like, what? 1k and is worse then soldier (shotgunner) mine layer you get then or you save for operator which is 2k. Not to mention the most expensive tower is what? 15k? Almost doubles tds. And dont get me started on gcrates since its already beem confirmed that tdx is also getting em. And prob more? Originality is simple: tds has jester necro, executioner, engineer, swarmer, and basically every event tower, and what does tdx have? Patrol boat, thats it name something else. Gameplay in tdx super repetetive because of the lack of gamemodes and proper balancing, while tds has almost double the gamemodes, wayy more towers to get, and quests. And the only comparison you can even make is to halloween 2020 which it still had 5 gamemodes, hidden wave, mega lobbies and smaller size lobbies. Did i mention matchmaking system? Did i mention that tds has better quality maps, skins and towers? Do your research.
@@ChilliumMan How ironic, "do your research" although you didn't even bother doing it yourself. It's not even Grindy, you need more towers to beat easy mode solo once you play TDS and rely on players to carry you, I literally got juggernaut during the first 3 days of release with starter towers since with the right Strat you can beat hard modes. Balancing is ass? Bro what???? TDX has some of the best balancing due to then always checking the community, beat the current hardest mode with beginner towers if you know your shit. Do you confuse gameplay with content?? I made it clear their different, unless your illiterate, and originality... Bro what ... Necromancer is NOT original its just the Necro tower from BTD6 but it can attack more enemies at once. MOST TDS towers are just from TB or BTD6. What do you expect anyways? You completely threw out the concept of hardcore mode, the difference between TDX and TDS golden skins is that: john confirmed golden skins are not needed for anything and is just there for high LV dedicated players to grind for, same with TDS. But unlike TDX, new players can grind alot easier than relying on more harder to obtain towers. Content and gameplay is different bro, where did I say that TDX has more content? You must be illiterate. Read my comment AGAIN, if you do the math, a average player (with codes) can get the towers needed for intermediate (solo) in under 2 hours. While in TDS you have to be carried to beat mollten or easy if your new.
Classification for TDX so that people don't make TDX lovers angry, it's better for TDX and TDS to collab like during the war on Christmas day, they played, pretending it was TDS and TDX playing together.
@@brislandTDSYou won't exactly understand how great both game was unless you have been through game developing especially TD games developing. TDX on the other hand is actually considered "Generic" like for real, they did not make anything new if you know what I meant, it's basically your average tower defense game with high quality, what makes it different from most tower defense game is that the upgrading path, yet that existed on Tower Blitz and Bloons TD. TDX's enemies are literally basic, like "Zombie" "Zombie+" "Fast Zombie" "Slow Zombie" "Armored Zombie" "Boss 1" "Boss 2" "Revived Boss" and it is basic, it actually felt like straight up a copy but in higher qualities, I extremely agree that TDS also have generic enemies but it seems that they're changing it to make it less generic from time-to-time, we can simply see how good new TDS' events was, Main Modes (Normal, Molten, Fallen, Hardcore) haven't been exactly reworked yet which is why they have some boring and generic gameplay. Yet I would say both games are balanced, it's just that TDX is extremely grindy.
TDS has only 3 game modes, Easy-Molten-Fallen. meanwhile TDX got 4 for now, Easy-Intermediate-Elite-Expert, and also a 5th one which is coming soon (31st march), the Nightmare mode.
Tds and tdx are good games. Im lv 100 in both of them. And i see everything from this games like im from 2016 i experienced all the events tower etc. And from tdx its the same. But clearly TDX wins by some factors and well its my favorite td military game fr
1,000 commenter Or over? Edit: besides tds and tdx are equal, not unbalanced from each other, both games are fun enough to make you play both tds and tdx. so, tds 🤝 tdx from now on.
@@whoosh4860”it looks outdated” “it looks cartoony compared to tdx” ok so I guess that all the well done lighting, the ui, the maps, the enemies don’t matter cause they are cartoony and look outdated
Funnily enough some towers like accel in tdx would deal like 20k DPS because if a golden minigunner can do 7k, a guy with a plasma gun that doesn't stop shooting(basilcy upgraded laser man) can do way more
*Gameplay* :TDS *Events* :TDS *Graphics* :TDX *Gamemodes* :TIE (I think tds might have the slight edge but it’s close) *realism* :TDX *Maps* :TDX (I think tdx has the better map designs) *towers* : TDS (idk if this is talking about tower designs or towers themselves, either way, I think tds is prob the winner) *upgrades* : TDS (idk what this is talking about but I think tds has the better design for upgrading.. I guess…) *collabs* :TDX *bloxy award* : NO WINNER (this isn’t really fair to add) Surprisingly TDX and TDS tied (this wasn’t on purpose lol)
@@williamli6648 Yeah tdx tower upgrades just generally have way more depth to them in tds the main thing i notice you worry about is the dps in tdx its all about range & cost efficieny operator one of the starter towers can solo easy intermediate & elite with enough dedication now you'd think operator is completely broken but its honestly really bad if you dont use it correctly
You forget tdx has only been out about a fifth of the time tds has and is already a major competitor. Tdx simply hasn't had the time to develop itself as much as tds has but has been growing its content much faster than tds with the greater quality within the content. And this is more of an opinion but I feel like tds is also a do a few rounds then log off game.
TDS sucks so badly right now if I’m being real with you 😂😂😂 and this is coming from a level 247 player. The game is still getting no where near as fun and yet I’m level 117 in Tdx and I’m STILL HAVING FUN 🎉🎉🎉
Kinda have to disagree on this one its quite the opposite for me whenever i play tds i get on play 1 match on polluted then leave tdx i spend hours tryna beat my high score in endless
Tf is online and wdym tds gets balance like most towers are God awful like most event tower's half the basic tower's and uniqueness???????. what as if half of the Damm tower's aren't from tower battles. Funny thing the game is inspired by tower's battles I'm not mad you prefer tds but I hate the fact you gave everything to tds have you played EVEN played tdx. I play both and love the games yet I like em equally tdx is not original it's just btd5 but saying tds is unique and makes original tower's is hilarious elf camp warden scout mini gunner military base mecha base dj and all the other tower's are inspired by tower battles. So yea I'm short tds and tdx are equal and they are not original so yea half of the random points you made why tds is better don't make sense. Please take this criticism and think a bit more
Oh my god you bjust made me remember how mutch i hate tds's collabs you grind a battle pass for like 3 days to get the max skin and it comes out 6 months later for money and its not rare anymore
Personally for me I don't really enjoy tdx as much as tds. I just like tds simplicity. But I think that both games are kinda different and not really comparable. Tdx sticks with intense gameplay while tds is more of a casual one
Game mode goes to TDS Tdx has easy mode medium Elite expert endless and tower battles TDS has Easy Molton Intermediate Fallen Badlands Polluted wastelands Pizza party Hard-core
Tdx has: Easy Intermediate Elite Expert Endless Upcomimg nightmare mode in THIS month Pvp mode in november Christmas mode (it was removed last month) Tb x tdx collab Toilet mode (april 1st) These event modes will return permanently to the game when it has the event update (it will probably work the same as the special modes in TDS)
@@Notagojofan But TDS isn't that bad, I played it and found it quite fun I had a lot of nostalgia because it reminded me of tower battles but the only problem I saw in all of them is the lag on mobile As for tdx, the only problem is that it takes a long time to update and in the process the game ends up losing several players Because the devs focus more on quality and because of that the updates take time, the game ends up losing players in the process and the game ends up becoming tedious
Я как кориспондент и олд там и там могу сказать во что Тдс: считается как детская и не сложная игра в своем сочетании все мирное и спокойное Тдх: считается как для професионального гейминга где нужно реал потеть чтобы заработать гроши и каждая музыка у нового босса все вызывает страх и эмоции
when tdx came i started to play this game (srry this comement is late) the game was kinda hard but when i start getting more towers and level up it became insane tower defense game that i ever played i will never quit this game this game will have the best grapthic and quality ever existed in a tower defense game btw idk how to suport games
TDS or TDX ❌
TDS and TDX ✅🗿
So true breh
TRUE
We need TDE in the middle
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@@zippybosscat9088 ok and?
Can we all agree TDS and TDX are better than TTD?
I don’t want to be that guy, so I WONT be that guy…
Sure
Yup
true🗿🍷
YES
Yes
Bloxy awards and realism is straight up a free point
For real, thats what most people do to get their favorite to win
@@Kachow_Kachowobviously, it’s an opinion
either way would be a win for tdx which I honestly agree majorly
@@kavsg1930 Being honest here, TDX is far behind TDS
@@Gigavisor maybe, my opinion is tdx is better though.
As a player who has spent many hours playing both games I have to say that both games are equally good.
Same ngl and John is a developer in tds at like 2020 or 2019 and also John is has helped tds to grow and now become the most popular tower defense game like it's more than ttd guys bcs he is a legend to
Ye bro I’m lvl 240 in tds and 121 in TDX and both games are good
Same, except tdx was terrible
Same
@@yesblao7305let it grow, also bet it's because you had better progress in tds lol
Right now, the only reason I’m playing tdx is because it’s new. I would rather be playing TDS,. Sadly I already have everything in tds.😅
Yea if you have everything in tds it gets super boring so play tdx I promise you it’s gonna be fun you won’t be bored after two rounds unlike tds lol
I can't wait for players to be in the end-game in tdx and say the same thing as they said for tds
tds is shit though, Like it’s horribly unbalanced, they add nothing to the game, the only reason why I would like the game is because I find hardcore fun but even then, the diversity for strats in hardcore is shit, meanwhile in tdx stuff are way more balanced and it looks like tdx will have a bright future with biweekly updated.
@@Gigavisorsame
I just can’t wait for the event
Both games are cool, but I stay with TDX ... cuz ... you know
Cuz you make a living of the 2k daily players TDX has now
Maybe tdx has more points at this video but tds is a game that is one of the old developer is John so it's not really make sense if tdx good than tds bcs tds has alot things to do but boring
We love you!
@@praronaghosh6337i think he meant dr xe-
Nahh 😂
Tdx better than tds ❌
Tds better than tdx ❌
Tdx and tds better than ttd ✅
Yes true
I am a skibidi toilet fan but i really dont like this game
I like playing tds but i have never played tdx
tdx and tds created by one dev
@@viCHI-id4mx what
Tds👍 tdx👍 These are 2 games that are good in their own way
ttd player who hate on tds because they think tds copy ttd:🤓🤡
Also u know song name?
@@IM_SdmMusic is "sleepwalker"
No,
Kill tds
Join tdx
@@7ITZDANGER7 tf u mean💀
"tds or tdx"
"2 different games made by 2 buddies"
The gd lives statute you is gone I don’t think they body’s anymore
They are still friends, in john's, he said he and below are in good terms.
@@JaxtonMjelde-pl2ng they still are and maybe collab that’s what John said
@@JaxtonMjelde-pl2ng They are still friends
Kill tds
Join tdx
Tdx>>>
TDS and TDX do not need to be compared, they are the best 😊
tb?
@@the_kargaTDX will carry the legacy.
@@the_karga tb is dogshit
None of them beat tower battles, what an og game😢
Who else misses tower battles?
Wdym misses? You can still play it
@@SCSlime99 Ye but it stopped updating.
@youcefayadi8737 last update was 33 days ago wdym
@@SCSlime99yea but nothing changed when I played
TDX Is carrying on the TB legacy, It was confirmed by john himself planet earth gave him all the assets of TB, so In theory, john owns TB now lol
a collab with both would be amazing.
Imagine golden r
essurected void reaver mk 2
That is both unlikely and very likely
@@user-xh4ov1so1pnow its really not possible. John doesn’t like tds anymore, so rip.
@@templar2831 John has stated this himself that a TDS Collab is possible
Void apex reaver
Can ik how to make these type of comparison videos? really hope u answer this thankyou!! 😅❤
U mean by capcut?
@@Manz_Channel yeah
@@Manz_Channelwhat's tHe song?
@@knightyear44 the original is sleepwalker.
Tbh Tdx is a military based Tower defense game vibe however tds is more a bit goofy cartoony tower defense vibe
Honestly, tds and tdx are both good games. I'd say its tied cuz tdx has a lack of content and tds has more gamemodes or something else i dont know how to describe it 😭
Tdx is really impressive its only been 6 months since release and they update about every 2-4 weeks either balance patches or a couple of new towers but the amount of content they do have right now is decent and the tower battles event is gonna be fire
TDS: 🗿
TDX : 🗿
The guy comparing them: 🤡
1 update to tdx and now the TB collab is one of the worst collabs in the tower defense community
Still better than tds x phillilps
@@samkojanik8807 well atleast tds x Phillips was free to get (you get free skins)
@@XarayGames395get what
Well the skin is not limited@@XarayGames395
@@latifahfah4925 it was still free to get and not pay to get like the tower battles skins
As a player who has played both games, i would prefer tdx (in my opinion)
I’m not a tdx hater but this edit is kinda based ngl😐
Fr
Fr they literally gave tdx collabs
I Think that both games are really good, i dont understand why are TDX and TDS are arguing
TDS and TDX are that kind of duo that when you completed everything in one game,you play another (pretty much like Blox fruit and King legacy)
So that we can play tower defense TWICE
You can't really compare them because one is old and the other isn't even a year old.
Tho you have a fair point.
What is the original song phonk version?
Interesting fact: in the first initial seconds, we see two trailers that John created (the tds trailer was created in order for tds to win the awards, the other trailer describes tdx, so to speak)
Its all fun and games till tower battles gets an update
True
btd6 soloes everything
@@pattifry7742 yeah the minus point is, it cost money
@@A_guy_making_meme_at_3_ambtd6 netflix:
@@A_guy_making_meme_at_3_am it's free if you got a Netflix account
gameplay to tds. Especially if we include solar eclipse
Gamemodes to tds.
nuclear monster, wox the fox, gunslinger, fallen, molten, easy, hardcore, intermediate
things that aren't in the debate:
beginner friendly: tds
Difficulty: Tdx (debatable af)
Grindy:tds by a long shot
Enjoyability: (both are extremely close in this category)
Replayability: TDS (the only reason why is because u can constantly change gamemodes and still get 500+ coins)
thats all
Tdx is the most grindy game it takes up to 200 hours to get warship, TDS game modes all have the same taste and don't really shoot for something different, just letting you know that this is my opinion, and I don't find TDS really much replay able the matches get boring after 1 match and for pro players it's the same thing over and over again, most of the time they have all the towers in the game and have to wait for a update in 4 months that gives them a tower that takes 2 hours of grinding if they don't even have the coins or gems before. Another thing in my opinion is that tdx gives you a starter tower which you can beat the 2nd easiest mode in the game with l. All respects to TDS still a great game.
Equal rights?❌
Comparing them✅
Basically white pp and dark pp
bro gave gamemode fo tdx like why tds has many gamemodes but tdx is straight up copy of every single boss but better
Fr
Tdx boss mostly are machinery (include exo santa)
At least u can actually say that these are bosses
Not some big guy stomping to stun ur towers and then walk away from them even if the "boss" has a weapon.
But ig yeah John could make these game modes more unique
@@MegaProWithIronclad I bet gamemode rework is coming on 2.0 so you'll just have to see.
@@justairyx2.0 taking so fucking long I bet gta 6 gonna release before 2.0
I swear below rapidly feeds his devs and staff after the tdx release
razuatix incident:
lets just appreciate that the 2 only good tower defense games rn are the 2 most loved among tower defense fans ovr instead of smth like ttd but tower batles and blitz still good but outdated
TDX or TDS 🤡
TDS and TDX ☕🗿
But tds has cooler effects bruh
Wait until when is not a beta anymore in tdx
@@neoninjing6975they had a year of development time as well as 5 months of being out. At 1 year and 5 months tdx literally collabed with roblox and made multiple good events. John took too long focusing on graphics, which doesn't matter as gameplay is far far far better and also makes it extremely hard to update tdx. Tdx was a complete fail mostly due to that, and they have skin gambling, terrible grinding and progression system, and degenerate devs and a terrible community
@@yesblao7305 ye plus that some of the players play tdx with full of skill and Battle iq because of it and plus when you play endless mode on mobile your phone can't take anymore because of graphics explosion effect and lots of gun firing
Wdym skin gambling tds also have skin gambling and not only that there more of the skin that mean you can’t just said TDX have more gambling. Terrible grinding and progression system? TDX is still in beta doesn’t mean is still perfect and good. Third what do you mean about terrible community i’ll understand that in discord chat they just spamming chat and sending meme. Fourth you can’t just blaming john for focus on graphics he planing this game for about 1 years and do you want the game to be low graphics? Fifth TDS have been copying TDX many times example: INTERMEDIATE MODE , Mercenary base , Cryomancer , Rework commander (that can spawn APC) and abilities (I don’t know if TDX can allow TDS to copy them). Last YESBLAO7305 you need to understand if you love TDS COMMUNTY THAT MUCH JUST DON’T COMMENT IN THIS VIDEO EVEN TO NEONINJING6975 (I’m just disappointed at tds right now they copied tdx and i haven’t played tds)
@@Nobodyknow-y7l I'm not really wanna start a argument but I'm gonna answer your points,
1. Even if TDS also has skin gambling, most of the skins are available from coins and most of them actually look good.
2. The game has been in development since 2021, If in almost 3 YEARS of development they couldn't make the grinding and progression be actually enjoyable, you can't really complain about TDS' grinding and progression system, since TDS atleast awards you with some free towers, unlike TDX that you gotta pay for all towers.
3. I don't know about this one too much, but if he said that it's probably from experience.
4. Doomspire Defense is literally a game that don't focus too much on details and graphics, but the game still is more enjoyable than TDX to me.
5. Mercenary Base, Intermediate Mode and Commander rework doesn't look like NOTHING inside of TDX. You just said that with only words and no actual proof.
6 and last. This video has TDS involved in it, why he can't come here and say anything? And as you said, you didn't even play TDS, and that makes your whole fifth point COMPLETELY INVALID.
Please don't try making points when you don't have experience in things.
You say that because you like everything. In fact, everyone wins because of the animations and realism of the gameplay.
Forgot special gamemodes and hardcore
Total of 7 gamemodes
I think he talking about the main mode like molten and fallen and normal
That will add 1 point as gamemode, TDX still win
@@Nikosentiana338 so here the modes for tdx and tds
Tdx - Easy, Intermediate, Elite,
Expert,... ENDLESS/NIGHTMARE
Special:
Events.
Tds - Normal/Easy, Molten, Fallen, (No golden? ;sonic face;)
Special:
Hardcore, Events.
So the winner is tdx but I rather agree that BOTH OF THEM ARE BETTER than ttd.
TDX had 7 and has had 8, Christmas, Christmas nightmare are still in the game
And we can’t forget about the best mode, toilet mode 🫡
Both games are great but we have to respect John. He is like count dooku, he saw the corruption in tds and decided to take action.
how does gamemode goes to tdx? tds has more gamemode normal, molten, fallen , pizza party, polluted wasteland, badland, hardcore
They are more like events except hardcore.
He probably means by normal game modes not the special game modes
That's why they already got a point for "events"
@@RatterTatterGaminghow tf are they events if they are staying in the game for the rest of tds, and if so why not count hc?
@@RatterTatterGaming Even if, there is a total of 4, if we don't count these + one upcoming, so it's a tie ( TDX has estimated 4 in total and 1 upcoming too )
Realism is a crazy thing to give points on
people be glazing tdx cuz its owned by a popular youtuber nahh 😭🙏
dont get me wrong tdx is actually really good but it aint better than tds yet brother
sorry man i like war robots so tdx wins me over
that popular ytber also used to play tds, he popularized tds, what if John didn't play tds?
@@unjustly_7 John roblox also got most of his subs from criminality and TDS so if he didn’t play tds then well his channel wouldn’t be as popular as he is today
@@praronaghosh6337 his channel grows from arsenal and tower battles bro, he only does tds when they died
Faaaaax
Waiting for the tds collab with tdx 😔
This should have beeen a tie if everything was in the correct place
Without bias yea
tds: i am better and original ❌
tdx: i know but im cooler❌
(woke up to reality🗿)
tdx: were friends tds✅🗿
tds: ofc✅🗿
Gamemodes 100% goes to tds, they got like 8 different gamemodes while TDX has 5
tdx has 7 now
Tdx has endless
quality over quantity
TDX may face a more mature audience but well thats what i enjoy. But TDS was a lot of fun. Just not so many interesting towers getting added anymore ☹️
Average tdx fan:
Tbh this edit is fax, more graphic, more boss animation and towers dance when the game is finished. Better gameplay as you don’t get bored that quickly unlike tds, I used to play it but got bored after a while, In addition, towers have better animation and realism, given that on the upgrades, John actually states the gun that he puts and has more real life towers like warship, armoured factory,. Also the guns that TDX uses are really detailed and are actually real. For Gamemode, TDX has the Christmas even as well as an easy, intermediate, Elite, Expert and also an Endless mode which well if you want to test how good you are, you can! It has more collab given that they did it with tower battles, criminality and something else I forgot.
I mean at least it wasn’t completely glazing it was only 2 points off
@@D4NY_LIM also your unit can die which more fun tbh
I got bored after playing for 1 hour in tdx...@@D4NY_LIM
Average tds fans that can't cope:
My favorite parts about tds: the maps,the tower designs/ reworks and how they revamped everything
My favorite parts of tdx: many Enemies
Epic looking skins,tdx is barely p2w Unlike Most games
Ultra cap, gamemodes goes to tds because it has 6 gamemodes that have more waves. Gameplay goes to tds since it has more gamemodes and waves not to mention its less grindy then tdx. And idk how but tdx is less original then tds. Also collabs because the tb one was a straighr up cashgrab
and the fact that tdx is still new bro🗿
Gameplay? You mean content? TDX has better gameplay, TDS has more content.
And what do you mean less grindy? New players can't even beat rhe first "easy mode" without the help of stronger players, john said the TB skins are ONLY for funding. The next collab with criminality will probably use coins to obtain. You say TDX is more grindy when you have... Lets see.... Golden skins, accelerator, and ENGINEER.
TDX is better, Beta stage already has more gameplay than TDS having 4 years of age. And what do you mean less original??? TDS was literally just a straight copy from TB in first release.
Warship is VERY high level due to a VERY simple reason... Warship isn't finished and isn't meant to be obtained that easily, they will make it easier to obtain once it's fully made.
You have to be a actual idiot to not expect TB collab to be a cashgrab... Games nees funding when they were first made, look at TDS having discounts for micro-transactions in their intitial release bro. TDX also has a brighter future as the developers actually put care into the game rather than TDS releasing a skin crate every 6 months and botched events like lunar overture, christmas 2023 is goated i have to admit still
@@OrionsRapture your saying that tdx has more content even though it has everything tds has but less, for example how many modes in tdx go to wave 40? how many modes are there in tds? 7. In tdx? 4.
Its more grindy because- come on, in tds you can get towers like shotgunner, soldier, demo in like 2-3 games. And the most expensive coin tower is 8k, now tdx on the other hand, the cheapest is already like, what? 1k and is worse then soldier (shotgunner) mine layer you get then or you save for operator which is 2k.
Not to mention the most expensive tower is what? 15k? Almost doubles tds. And dont get me started on gcrates since its already beem confirmed that tdx is also getting em. And prob more?
Originality is simple: tds has jester necro, executioner, engineer, swarmer, and basically every event tower, and what does tdx have? Patrol boat, thats it name something else.
Gameplay in tdx super repetetive because of the lack of gamemodes and proper balancing, while tds has almost double the gamemodes, wayy more towers to get, and quests.
And the only comparison you can even make is to halloween 2020 which it still had 5 gamemodes, hidden wave, mega lobbies and smaller size lobbies.
Did i mention matchmaking system?
Did i mention that tds has better quality maps, skins and towers?
Do your research.
@@ChilliumMan How ironic, "do your research" although you didn't even bother doing it yourself. It's not even Grindy, you need more towers to beat easy mode solo once you play TDS and rely on players to carry you, I literally got juggernaut during the first 3 days of release with starter towers since with the right Strat you can beat hard modes. Balancing is ass? Bro what???? TDX has some of the best balancing due to then always checking the community, beat the current hardest mode with beginner towers if you know your shit.
Do you confuse gameplay with content?? I made it clear their different, unless your illiterate, and originality... Bro what ... Necromancer is NOT original its just the Necro tower from BTD6 but it can attack more enemies at once. MOST TDS towers are just from TB or BTD6.
What do you expect anyways? You completely threw out the concept of hardcore mode, the difference between TDX and TDS golden skins is that: john confirmed golden skins are not needed for anything and is just there for high LV dedicated players to grind for, same with TDS. But unlike TDX, new players can grind alot easier than relying on more harder to obtain towers.
Content and gameplay is different bro, where did I say that TDX has more content? You must be illiterate. Read my comment AGAIN, if you do the math, a average player (with codes) can get the towers needed for intermediate (solo) in under 2 hours. While in TDS you have to be carried to beat mollten or easy if your new.
Classification for TDX so that people don't make TDX lovers angry, it's better for TDX and TDS to collab like during the war on Christmas day, they played, pretending it was TDS and TDX playing together.
TDS maps look like a highschool project compared to TDX maps
Because it was
Tds maps still better lmao
it was a school project
Ngl i thought tds was better but when i first tried tdx i actually enjoyed it more
bro just wanted TDX to win💀
But it's truth.
Not really@@brislandTDS
He ain't wrong.
@@brislandTDSYou won't exactly understand how great both game was unless you have been through game developing especially TD games developing.
TDX on the other hand is actually considered "Generic" like for real, they did not make anything new if you know what I meant, it's basically your average tower defense game with high quality, what makes it different from most tower defense game is that the upgrading path, yet that existed on Tower Blitz and Bloons TD.
TDX's enemies are literally basic, like "Zombie" "Zombie+" "Fast Zombie" "Slow Zombie" "Armored Zombie" "Boss 1" "Boss 2" "Revived Boss" and it is basic, it actually felt like straight up a copy but in higher qualities, I extremely agree that TDS also have generic enemies but it seems that they're changing it to make it less generic from time-to-time, we can simply see how good new TDS' events was, Main Modes (Normal, Molten, Fallen, Hardcore) haven't been exactly reworked yet which is why they have some boring and generic gameplay.
Yet I would say both games are balanced, it's just that TDX is extremely grindy.
@@justairyxaccel, golden skin:
Tds and tdx owners: 🤝
Tds and tdx community: ⚔️
🤝2019-2023
💔 2023- today
@@dariocardoso137yeah
@@Error404-Alpha_Tale jonh and below is not friends anymore 😥😥😢
@@dariocardoso137 Serious? Noooooooooo
@@Error404-Alpha_Tale really 💔🌧😢
He is so wrong tds has more gamemodes
Hardcore
Pizza party
Badlands 2
Pouletted wasteland
Fallen
Molten
Normal
And insane coming soon ...
"Main gamemodes"
TDS has only 3 game modes, Easy-Molten-Fallen.
meanwhile TDX got 4 for now, Easy-Intermediate-Elite-Expert, and also a 5th one which is coming soon (31st march), the Nightmare mode.
tdx:
Normal mode
nithmare mode
(crismas)
Eazy
intermemal
elite
endless
expert
and coming soon NIGHTMAR strait point to tdx
@@CoatOfArms-0 its enoff
9? That's it? HA
tds is nostalgic, tdx is new types of gameplay
Tdx has more potential
Super true
TDS:👎👎👎👎 TDX:❤❤❤❤
Tdx and tds collab would be nice.
But that would have a lot of confusion for who does the event
Tds having an actual collab? 💀
@@da_potato5953 prob, idk
@@cartercromwellJohn is real life friends with the devs of tds. Might happen.
Tds and tdx are good games. Im lv 100 in both of them. And i see everything from this games like im from 2016 i experienced all the events tower etc. And from tdx its the same. But clearly TDX wins by some factors and well its my favorite td military game fr
What song is this
Sleepwalker (ultra slowed & reverb) guitar remix
@@Manz_Channel Who was the artist who made it?
@@RalphChristopherNepomucenobro why do you wanna know🥲
I cant find it
Correction bloxy award is cuz of john trailer for tds and John made tdx so technically john got it so it would of been tdx
Song name bro
im pretty sure its icewhore x sleep walker or somethin
Sleepwalker slowed guitar remix
1,000 commenter Or over?
Edit: besides tds and tdx are equal, not unbalanced from each other, both games are fun enough to make you play both tds and tdx. so, tds 🤝 tdx from now on.
Graphics are to Tds. They are better polished and their designs are more realistic. Plus, u forgot to give tds a Ost point.
TDX takes OST. The metal is way more Fire IMO
@@PatrickEdits837 bro totally didnt listen to "PHUCK YOUR HEART" and Eradicator theme
@@baconcow210 99% of it is metal lmfao also Eradicator is Metal tf. 1 song isnt metal oh no im wrong
How exactly are the graphics better? Not to be disrespectful or anything, but tds looks really cartoony and outdated compared to tdx
@@whoosh4860”it looks outdated” “it looks cartoony compared to tdx” ok so I guess that all the well done lighting, the ui, the maps, the enemies don’t matter cause they are cartoony and look outdated
Guys both trailers used in the video were by John fatblox
Singularity>all tds maps
Fr
Funnily enough some towers like accel in tdx would deal like 20k DPS because if a golden minigunner can do 7k, a guy with a plasma gun that doesn't stop shooting(basilcy upgraded laser man) can do way more
*Gameplay* :TDS
*Events* :TDS
*Graphics* :TDX
*Gamemodes* :TIE (I think tds might have the slight edge but it’s close)
*realism* :TDX
*Maps* :TDX (I think tdx has the better map designs)
*towers* : TDS (idk if this is talking about tower designs or towers themselves, either way, I think tds is prob the winner)
*upgrades* : TDS (idk what this is talking about but I think tds has the better design for upgrading.. I guess…)
*collabs* :TDX
*bloxy award* : NO WINNER (this isn’t really fair to add)
Surprisingly TDX and TDS tied (this wasn’t on purpose lol)
Bro must be high on meth if he thinks upgrades go to tds.
@@williamli6648 I meant tds has better tower design progression if that makes any sense and honestly idk what I meant
@@ItsCubicxgame play goes to tdx cuz your units' die plus it has a range that cannot go through Walls unlike tds.
@@Power_scaling_characters I don’t see how it makes the gameplay better, just more realistic
@@williamli6648 Yeah tdx tower upgrades just generally have way more depth to them in tds the main thing i notice you worry about is the dps in tdx its all about range & cost efficieny operator one of the starter towers can solo easy intermediate & elite with enough dedication now you'd think operator is completely broken but its honestly really bad if you dont use it correctly
bro isn’t tdx is if blitz tower defense and tds did a fusion dance and im pretty sure that the multiple upgrade paths is from bloons td
You are right
tds has done more collabs than tdx lol
tds only really did one collab, which is with a shaving company… atleast tdx did an actual collab
at least tds collabs easy to get skins than tdx collabs it cost robux!
well yeah, but developers need money to pay the devs/hire new ones
also it is not NEEDED that you buy these skins, they are all cosmetic
@sahidabutazil8892 tds collab with razer had an entire battle pass and tdx with tb all the skins costed robux
Nice. What is the song name? L mean there is guitar sound and its super slowed.
If I’m not mistaken, it’s Sleepwalker
@@thegarudayaksa thanks. It is
I disagree with gamemodes,TDS have more,than TDX
Some of tds gamemode is fallen reskin
@@n0tslayer422 dude,its anyways gamemodes lol
we love it when elite and expert is mostly abomination spam don't we?
@@n0tslayer422Tds has 6 gamemodes, while currently tdx only has 4.
@@ClassicOofjohn gonna add 2 mode (nightmare and ultra)
IMO:
Tdx is more a play a couple times then log off type of game while tds is more fun to play and has more things to do.
You forget tdx has only been out about a fifth of the time tds has and is already a major competitor. Tdx simply hasn't had the time to develop itself as much as tds has but has been growing its content much faster than tds with the greater quality within the content.
And this is more of an opinion but I feel like tds is also a do a few rounds then log off game.
TDS sucks so badly right now if I’m being real with you 😂😂😂 and this is coming from a level 247 player. The game is still getting no where near as fun and yet I’m level 117 in Tdx and I’m STILL HAVING FUN 🎉🎉🎉
@@Rezman611tdx is not a major competitor
Kinda have to disagree on this one its quite the opposite for me whenever i play tds i get on play 1 match on polluted then leave tdx i spend hours tryna beat my high score in endless
People who respect both🗿
Yep I do play both
@@Manz_Channel then why did you make a comparison? Both are their own games owned by different people
Yall just wait until tdx gets every up coming towers
Towers: TDS
Updates: TDS
Gamemodes: TDS
Balance: TDS
Online: TDS
Events: TDS
Uniqueness: TDS
Don't steals from others TD games: TDS
Ez TDS victory🏆
Tf is online and wdym tds gets balance like most towers are God awful like most event tower's half the basic tower's and uniqueness???????. what as if half of the Damm tower's aren't from tower battles. Funny thing the game is inspired by tower's battles I'm not mad you prefer tds but I hate the fact you gave everything to tds have you played EVEN played tdx. I play both and love the games yet I like em equally tdx is not original it's just btd5 but saying tds is unique and makes original tower's is hilarious elf camp warden scout mini gunner military base mecha base dj and all the other tower's are inspired by tower battles. So yea I'm short tds and tdx are equal and they are not original so yea half of the random points you made why tds is better don't make sense. Please take this criticism and think a bit more
Holy Mother of Joseph I was yapping over a random comment
What about tower battle huh? you copy all of them
Who let lil bro cook
Barracks(mercenary base) and trapper say hi to you
Stay still with tds broooo 😁
And idk what happen with tdx now i see just like 4-6k left player actives every day
Tdx just start only true people know tds win
no way tds never got a collab for like 6 years or something and only after like 4 months of tdx releasing theres a dang tb collab
There is no way bro gave game modes to tdx
They are better designed and less repetitive and the bosses are more innovative
well, TDX has 6 modes, 7 on 31st march
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY🗣️📢📢📢🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's kinda funny how the tds clip shows below, John, and razuatix, but currently John and razuatix are in tdx
Raz is not in tdx
@@Redlava check the group for tdx and go to testerd
@@Redlava Yuh, razuatix is on tdx now, actually has been for like 5 months now
@@Angel-nh5qs fr? Did John say it??
@@Angel-nh5qswhen
Better graphics? 😂
yeah?
Name song: akiaura sleepwalker x bovi guitar remix (super slowed)
Your going to heaven
since when did tdx have more modes than tds?
Idk
quality over quantity
TDS >>>>>
Ezz win
No...
@@AirsoftDude19x yes old>>new
@@LordoftheDarkLands Keep yapping tdx is better
Fax
@@JarelleSupetranboth are good😊
Technically john roblox was what gave tds the bloxy awards
TDS has more gamemodes bro
Bro forgot about TDS x Phillips collab🍷🗿
still, tdx collabs better, also tdx towers better Warship can solo all tds towers
@@adminadmin2187 TDX collabs better?
Or you don't know what's Phillips company?
@@Хули_тут_псевдоним just 1 ?
@adminadmin2187 accel doesn't die after a enemy decides to attack it smh atleast not for most of the bosses
Oh my god you bjust made me remember how mutch i hate tds's collabs you grind a battle pass for like 3 days to get the max skin and it comes out 6 months later for money and its not rare anymore
I played both game but i didn't know that tdx was actually good and i missed their collaboration
Tower defense simulator, tower defense x, tower battles, tower blitz , npc tower defense are all better than TTD
Personally for me I don't really enjoy tdx as much as tds. I just like tds simplicity. But I think that both games are kinda different and not really comparable. Tdx sticks with intense gameplay while tds is more of a casual one
As someone who has spent over 260 hours in tds and 160 in tdx they are both good in their own ways
Ah yes, completely describing tdx and calling it a competition.
TDS old game his really cool
TDX looks like TDS but have a modification
Game mode goes to TDS
Tdx has easy mode medium
Elite expert endless and tower battles
TDS has
Easy
Molton
Intermediate
Fallen
Badlands
Polluted wastelands
Pizza party
Hard-core
Tdx has:
Easy
Intermediate
Elite
Expert
Endless
Upcomimg nightmare mode in THIS month
Pvp mode in november
Christmas mode (it was removed last month)
Tb x tdx collab
Toilet mode (april 1st)
These event modes will return permanently to the game when it has the event update (it will probably work the same as the special modes in TDS)
@@SrTekiro ye lol
@@Notagojofan But TDS isn't that bad, I played it and found it quite fun
I had a lot of nostalgia because it reminded me of tower battles but the only problem I saw in all of them is the lag on mobile
As for tdx, the only problem is that it takes a long time to update and in the process the game ends up losing several players
Because the devs focus more on quality and because of that the updates take time, the game ends up losing players in the process and the game ends up becoming tedious
@@Notagojofan But I'm still excited for the TDS Halloween update and the TDX Nightmare update.
@@SrTekiro can’t agree more
i fw with everything but game modes, there's 5 as of now but tds as of now has 8 and 9 if there's a event
TDS is better because just remembering nostalgia with nostalgic troops, events, in my opinion TDS is better than TDX
Get ready for round 2 then tdx has a tower battles event which reminds me of the old tds events watch the stream john did
Both good but tds is OG like come on
Johns images from tds is already faded away by multiple changes I wonder what happend 🤔 is he actually leave and choose another way ?
Я как кориспондент и олд там и там могу сказать во что
Тдс: считается как детская и не сложная игра в своем сочетании все мирное и спокойное
Тдх: считается как для професионального гейминга где нужно реал потеть чтобы заработать гроши и каждая музыка у нового босса все вызывает страх и эмоции
Try competing it to the og prime td games like pvz,btd and kingdom rush
wtf is kindgdom rush
Not even comparable because they are not similar to roblox td games at all
when tdx came i started to play this game (srry this comement is late) the game was kinda hard but when i start getting more towers and level up it became insane tower defense game that i ever played i will never quit this game this game will have the best grapthic and quality ever existed in a tower defense game btw idk how to suport games
Do u know what is the epic bgm that used in this video