@@Sabuuchi Worried about shit like this since the Khora fiasco, got banned on that one, fortunately got unbanned too but god damn, almost 6 years of progress down the drain at the time...
Tbf, Kullervo's 2 while having a risk factor feels almost consequence free, if he could stand dead centre of a crowd and SPAM his 2 with an infinite cap, he'd never die, plus he gains overguard at a faster rate than Styanax but he do have a cap, capacity is not his strength, his overguard regen rate is.
@@zephyrprime8 and ? if you create them evry time you press any button ? almost infinity shild gating 1 2 3 give some shilds from mods, you almost alywas use one or two mod from conver energy into shilds, and his 4 natural do so much shilds that it instand full purple, alos tenno shild have 25% damage reduction what is more that armor of some frames. #15arrmorzephyr xd
@@Darlf_Sevil 25% DR is absolutely nothing past lvl 70. And constant shield gating allows for very little margin of error, not to mention it goes against Styanax's passive of benefitting from having more shields. Also, Styanax's base shields are 750, and with 209% ability strength Rally Point regenerates 104 shields per kill, meaning you have to kill 8 enemies to reactivate shield gating. Not very effective at surviving on higher levels.
@@zephyrprime8 not very effective on mod when around you are more that 20 enemy at the same time, shild gate are not that good when shild gate is problem of inaros and befor uptade kullerovo like you know what dmg do 70 lvl enemy ? to one shot stanyxs max shild you need some heavy 150 lvl unit or normal unit 200 lvl + alos sorry but 200% ? is a total base frames build even for frames who not base so much on power like trinity and we talk abaut hero who base in it hard, like you alos forget his 4 have damm exsplossions who have kinda big for skil range. do warframe for you need be ultimate op and imortal to be just ok ? go play nyx on imortal combo and stop talk like that bcs i see no matter what i say you find somting what have no seans like kill 8 enemy, you know what you damm have right, kill on him 8 enemy is hard normal on steal one his 4 i kill more that 15 of them and you need try hard to lkill only 8... on stanxs who have only potato boost and havent any formas xd damm he so weak when other warframs pure dmg skill most time do nothing on steal he one shot almost evry enemy and boss xd so bad
@@IRMentatuhh what? just Subsume Breach Surge over her useless 1st or 4th ability, slap Blazing pillage in the build and just spam pillage and Breach Surge to delete whole rooms while constantly topping up 7k shields buffer ...
@@AsghaadUseless first or 4? My brother in Christ... also, I'm PRETTY sure he's talking about the frame itself, not when she's been sucking on that subsume ability.
That hildryn made me laugh a bit, not being the main shield booster, then i remembered that pilage removes all armor in 2 casts at 200% strength in a wide AOE
@@magic_cfw it reduces the armor effectiveness, wether armor or shields. Hey that's just my understanding of it and saw plenty of people use corrosive projection on Warframes to increase the chance to remove or strip. I'm just a dude who plays what I know
@@GunterBunterWarframe umm, actually Gyre, Xaku, Limbo, Hildryn and Titania do dashes instead of rolls, Sevagoth does a barrel roll instead. On the other hand Protea does a backflip on a forward roll.
@@GunterBunterWarframe You don't even have to be in the air, just aim down sights/block with melee weapon, then roll backwards to do a backflip. Also works if you've just shot your weapon and your character is still aiming in the direction you're looking.
My best guess is since rally point raises your threat level, styanax gains tge cappless overgaurd because every enemy on the map will be targeting him the most, resulting in him hovering at around 2 overgaurd while he actively trying to regain it with last stand. While on the other hand, kullervo's recompense acts passively, heals him, increases his combo multipliers and doesn't require line of sight. Now I ain't saying capping kullervo is right, only that styanax would be screwed if he did have a cap.
No he would not at all, styanax could have a cap of 1 overguard and still be way better. 0.5 second gate effect that gets refreshed as soon as you get 1 point of overguard on top of having the 1.3 sec shield gating to fall back on. As long as the 4 is active, he will not die and when it deactivates, he has enough time to recast it and still be invincible. Kullervo is supposed to be the overguard frame, he was purpose made to introduce the overguard mechanic as a main staple in warframe kits. Plus having no shields or health gate mechanic like Nidus makes it clear that kullervo was intended to be a overguard and melee frame.
@@highfighter219er5 my only retorts I have left then are that even with the 1.8 seconds of total gating, styanax will be mostly in his 4 for that duration regaining his overshield. Returning to the point that kulervo has a "set and forget" playstyle for his overgaurd, in which he also doesn't have to worry about having a higher threat level than the rest of his team. And a small question being that maybe one is alot stronger is because kulervo is an offensive/nuker style warframe, whereas styanax is more a hybrid between Cc, support, and an accidental tank?
@@adriandoesstuffandthings The biggest issue is that styanax has all of that plus his four has insane slash dps just making him a much better frame overall. Got great damage and AOE, great survivability, and energy regeneration which he can share. Kullervo might be able to out dps him, but only pushing 4 to win is what makes styanax so much more stronger.
@@highfighter219er5 in the debate of which one is strongest we should at least bring up the fact that pretty much the entirety of kullervo's kit allows him to build up combo on melee weapons. So he may not have as instantaneous of an "I win" button as styanax, he does get a higher form of longevity on his "win" condition depending on what melee you choose, especially if you have glaive prime or xoris
To be fair styanax is the spartan warrior frame, while kullevero can give him self over 600% of crit chance which equates to red crits with !!! which essentially give a times 6 damage multiple and if you pair that with the right weapon…. One shot god
My current main cus of the overguard.yesterday, played the lua survival for 1hr which was about lvl 205 and i foundthat having your over guard above 40000 while maintaining your dps makes you invincible. And like to the acolytes are pretty much as weak as every other enemy. The only real threat for me were the bloody sentients. I had a cedo as my primary so used that to slow down enemies and the sentients a bit giving me enough time to armour strip or simply rebuild my over guard back up to about 40000. The highest overguad mount i noticed was about 50050. And another advantage of overguard is that even the most annoying status effects like magnetic and toxin can't harm you. I also took him to an archon hunt. And will most likely use him mostly for arhon hunts unless they nerf him, which i sure hope they don't
Dante 2 2 4 gives a buff that gives overguard on every kill, and if it gets dropped you get the shield gate. so on low level missions you and your party have an effective 50k hp buffer before they even hit your shields and on Steel Path, you and your party are literally invincible as long as you’re killing things
idk but give everyone else the same treatment. Bring back old Ash, Banshee, Ember etc. People will never know of old Ember today. Her kit may be more fun than the old one but she was better.
@@abominablesnowman64that's cap AF she was not better I've been playing since game came out and she has never been in a better state then rn, just cuz u can't afk ult doesn't mean she was better idk why people think shi like that is better
He doesnt even need shield. He dont need nothing. He just has pure 100% damage reduction and status immunity. Hes a god. 1 hp? no problem. He will still live through worldwide planet destruction without even a scratch.
Watching this after Kullervo's overguard cap was nerfed to 10k and Dante's release is wild, like how does the basekit overguard printer give him and his teammates 60k overguard read as okay.
counter point, mesmer skin exists, the only part thats "busted" is giving his overguard to team mates, and overguard starts lacking the more you go in level as it does not get effected by any sort of damage resistance like adaptation. Edit: i realize that this is more about kuellervo getting an unfair overguard cap than stynax being "overpowered", point still stands tho.
Its also just broken because of the 0.5 sec invincibility window that can be refreshed instantly as long as you get 1 point of overguard back. On top of having shieldgating on top of it. DR and adaptation does not matter as Styanax can just refresh it quickly and safely as he will almost always have energy to cast his 4, has shield gating to fall back on, and can still do massive damage while refreshing his gating.
@@highfighter219er5 that's fair but he mentioned that the only thing busted is that he gives his overguard to enemies too , meanwhile revenant can also do that
I just started playing him after that new skin released. I thought it looked awesome, but now styanax is my main frame. I love the CC, the heals are awesome, the energy buff is useful, and the rain of death is really fun.
I don’t think it’s too bad. Styanax is only obtainable pretty far in the game (unless you got him for free or bought him), while Kullervo can literally be your second Warframe. The og 5k cap doesn’t seem like much, but it literally makes you invincible without effort for the beginning of the game. In other news, it also gave me the bad habit of ignoring lasers and shockwave moas, making it basically impossible for me to play other frames without getting knocked on my ass constantly lol.
i like more his tp like is best tp in game, try in keys option change kullervo press to tp to enemy and hold to tp to place, he insane fast on this, like it better that any other tp and it dont have big cost, make you stronger for short time and imortal for tp time.
I just got the Styanax warframe and even without seeing this I can tell his entire deal is. "I don't care how strong you are. You're going to get impaled!"
I think it’s simply that they over tuned Styanax’s augment way too much.
They can fix it when they want. Just feel the power before it fixed
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 Exactly. Much easier to nerf an augment than to buff it.
It got nerfed
@@Anti-impalahow ?
@@johankaruyan5536has a cap of 15,000 now at base but scales with strength like Kullervo
Kullervo getting a cap but not Styanax confuses the ever living fuck out of me. Kullervo's still amazing without it but bruh
I wonder if DE will cap the augment or just let it be as it is
@apexgear2340 it's been a couple weeks but that hasn't stopped them before. Abuse it before you lose it.
@@Sabuuchi Worried about shit like this since the Khora fiasco, got banned on that one, fortunately got unbanned too but god damn, almost 6 years of progress down the drain at the time...
@@AntaresSQ01bro banned for what???
Tbf, Kullervo's 2 while having a risk factor feels almost consequence free, if he could stand dead centre of a crowd and SPAM his 2 with an infinite cap, he'd never die, plus he gains overguard at a faster rate than Styanax but he do have a cap, capacity is not his strength, his overguard regen rate is.
Styanax on release suffered from being a bit too squishy so DE went "lol let's make him the best frame"
how ? i have him for free and he create more shilds and do it faster that hildryn and mag... together twice
@@Darlf_Sevil Simply put shields are an inferior means of survivability compared to DR, so unless you run adaptation your shields are getting 1shot.
@@zephyrprime8 and ? if you create them evry time you press any button ? almost infinity shild gating 1 2 3 give some shilds from mods, you almost alywas use one or two mod from conver energy into shilds, and his 4 natural do so much shilds that it instand full purple, alos tenno shild have 25% damage reduction what is more that armor of some frames.
#15arrmorzephyr xd
@@Darlf_Sevil 25% DR is absolutely nothing past lvl 70. And constant shield gating allows for very little margin of error, not to mention it goes against Styanax's passive of benefitting from having more shields.
Also, Styanax's base shields are 750, and with 209% ability strength Rally Point regenerates 104 shields per kill, meaning you have to kill 8 enemies to reactivate shield gating. Not very effective at surviving on higher levels.
@@zephyrprime8 not very effective on mod when around you are more that 20 enemy at the same time, shild gate are not that good when shild gate is problem of inaros and befor uptade kullerovo like you know what dmg do 70 lvl enemy ? to one shot stanyxs max shild you need some heavy 150 lvl unit or normal unit 200 lvl + alos sorry but 200% ? is a total base frames build even for frames who not base so much on power like trinity and we talk abaut hero who base in it hard, like you alos forget his 4 have damm exsplossions who have kinda big for skil range.
do warframe for you need be ultimate op and imortal to be just ok ?
go play nyx on imortal combo and stop talk like that bcs i see no matter what i say you find somting what have no seans like kill 8 enemy, you know what you damm have right, kill on him 8 enemy is hard normal on steal one his 4 i kill more that 15 of them and you need try hard to lkill only 8... on stanxs who have only potato boost and havent any formas xd damm he so weak when other warframs pure dmg skill most time do nothing on steal he one shot almost evry enemy and boss xd so bad
Styanax is like hildryn but is a fucking snowplow that annihilates enemies
Which is why he’s my favorite frame 🤩
so nothing like hildryn then. . .
He's my favorite as well but far from my main frame witch is chroma
@@IRMentatuhh what? just Subsume Breach Surge over her useless 1st or 4th ability, slap Blazing pillage in the build and just spam pillage and Breach Surge to delete whole rooms while constantly topping up 7k shields buffer ...
@@AsghaadUseless first or 4? My brother in Christ... also, I'm PRETTY sure he's talking about the frame itself, not when she's been sucking on that subsume ability.
You’re right and they’ll probably nerf Inaros as a response to this video.
nah they will nerf mag again
Nah they'll buff volt after this
What does inaros have that DE could nerf?
amount of health? xD@@notbread299
but he came out nerfed
That hildryn made me laugh a bit, not being the main shield booster, then i remembered that pilage removes all armor in 2 casts at 200% strength in a wide AOE
328 with corrosive projection + 3 normal red shards 10% power strength. Can strip all sheilds and armor in one cast
@@Yewrenegade not shields, you need more strength for that (unless you meant +328% which would be 400+% strength)
@@magic_cfw 328 with corrosive projection. Cuz without that aura mod, then ye you need 400%+ strength for it
@@Yewrenegade to strip shields you need 400. corrosive projection does not reduce shields
@@magic_cfw it reduces the armor effectiveness, wether armor or shields. Hey that's just my understanding of it and saw plenty of people use corrosive projection on Warframes to increase the chance to remove or strip. I'm just a dude who plays what I know
ok but can he do a backflip?
All warframes can backflip, just roll backwards when in the air
@@GunterBunterWarframe umm, actually Gyre, Xaku, Limbo, Hildryn and Titania do dashes instead of rolls, Sevagoth does a barrel roll instead. On the other hand Protea does a backflip on a forward roll.
@@TheKooayou forgot wisp
@@GunterBunterWarframe You don't even have to be in the air, just aim down sights/block with melee weapon, then roll backwards to do a backflip. Also works if you've just shot your weapon and your character is still aiming in the direction you're looking.
@@TheKooa Errm actually Titania does do a backwards rotational motion if you run into a wall, so yes, she does in fact do a backflip.
Over guard got capped for Styanax.
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🎉🎉😢
Because Styanax is considered a support frame buffing his allies.
Kullervo is just for himself.
Also kullervo maxing out his cap in like 3 casts
nice loop there sabby boy, great short
Kullervo after hitting 2.1 billion damage 🗿
"Gummy worm nippled"..... I'm going to say this every oppertunity I get
"I'm fucking invicible" - sundowner
This video aged like fine milk.
why?
Lotta aged milk drinkers outing themselves on the internet
@kfcpatrol6630 He got nerfed and it caps at 50k now
Me from the future with the new overguard king
Dante
styanaxx is a lost spartan god who wondered into to the warframe
"Gummy-worm-nippled spartan warrior." Has me giggling like a bitch.
At DE, the star goes into the square shaped hole.
Ignore the hammer.
Lmao
Ok but he's a Spartan
Stynax is a good boi a great boi strong boi sexy boi team boi flying boi spear boi shield boi his just a really nice boi
Its okay I play styanax so this isnt an issue
gummy worm nipple spartan warrior LOL XD
Stynax kinda deserves it for how dirty he was done on release, MF got 2 nerfs in a moth span of whe he came out and was buried by the playerbase
That sounds of the clip shown at the nourish part kills me😂
I love these nicknames for the frames 😂😂
Almost perfect loop and great detail, plus memes.
Styanax have a overguard cup
I have styanax and his argument and I never knew he is this good, I've clearly been missing out.
Gummy worm nippled spartan frame got me 😂
My best guess is since rally point raises your threat level, styanax gains tge cappless overgaurd because every enemy on the map will be targeting him the most, resulting in him hovering at around 2 overgaurd while he actively trying to regain it with last stand.
While on the other hand, kullervo's recompense acts passively, heals him, increases his combo multipliers and doesn't require line of sight.
Now I ain't saying capping kullervo is right, only that styanax would be screwed if he did have a cap.
Also, kulervo is more a melee combo frame than an overgaurd frame.
No he would not at all, styanax could have a cap of 1 overguard and still be way better. 0.5 second gate effect that gets refreshed as soon as you get 1 point of overguard on top of having the 1.3 sec shield gating to fall back on. As long as the 4 is active, he will not die and when it deactivates, he has enough time to recast it and still be invincible. Kullervo is supposed to be the overguard frame, he was purpose made to introduce the overguard mechanic as a main staple in warframe kits. Plus having no shields or health gate mechanic like Nidus makes it clear that kullervo was intended to be a overguard and melee frame.
@@highfighter219er5 my only retorts I have left then are that even with the 1.8 seconds of total gating, styanax will be mostly in his 4 for that duration regaining his overshield. Returning to the point that kulervo has a "set and forget" playstyle for his overgaurd, in which he also doesn't have to worry about having a higher threat level than the rest of his team.
And a small question being that maybe one is alot stronger is because kulervo is an offensive/nuker style warframe, whereas styanax is more a hybrid between Cc, support, and an accidental tank?
@@adriandoesstuffandthings The biggest issue is that styanax has all of that plus his four has insane slash dps just making him a much better frame overall. Got great damage and AOE, great survivability, and energy regeneration which he can share. Kullervo might be able to out dps him, but only pushing 4 to win is what makes styanax so much more stronger.
@@highfighter219er5 in the debate of which one is strongest we should at least bring up the fact that pretty much the entirety of kullervo's kit allows him to build up combo on melee weapons. So he may not have as instantaneous of an "I win" button as styanax, he does get a higher form of longevity on his "win" condition depending on what melee you choose, especially if you have glaive prime or xoris
the animal crossing tv audio is golden
Nice loop but it's not gonna trick me into watching it twice
Styanax is the Overgaurd frame
“Boe Jiden”
the stat inflation of newer frames is real, its like any new frame is catered in some way to end game without updating the older frames for balancing
True
Laughs in Dante. Another Frame with fuck ton of Overguard, that can be given to the whole squad.
Making him: title card
This guy... finally showed up in my shorts feed
Styanax at this point in time is one of the few who can go toe to toe with the 60 eyed monster.
He’s a spartan, he’s just built different
I love Stryx tbh, but I never thought it was broken until you pointed it out lol still gonna use him
A Spartan, an actor, a book worm and a priest walk into a disruption mission.
Symtyanax has a cap now. Mines at ~49k but ive seen it go to ~60k
Styanax aka “i shall be your Living breathing moving spear throwing Tank”
And he was a free fully built frame when you logged in during a specific time.
And the fact that Kullervo doesn't have shields but Styanax has very high base shields and can get overshields
To be fair styanax is the spartan warrior frame, while kullevero can give him self over 600% of crit chance which equates to red crits with !!! which essentially give a times 6 damage multiple and if you pair that with the right weapon…. One shot god
Despite all of this, I've never seen a Styanax in a serious mission attempt.
Meanwhile Dante:
FUCK OFFFFF, everytime I'm just starting to forget about Stya-NIPS, some video or short has to come along and make me remember again.
Killed the Duke of earl jumpscare
Styanax: IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE
Spartan Frame knows where it’s at
Because this is sparta
My current main cus of the overguard.yesterday, played the lua survival for 1hr which was about lvl 205 and i foundthat having your over guard above 40000 while maintaining your dps makes you invincible. And like to the acolytes are pretty much as weak as every other enemy. The only real threat for me were the bloody sentients. I had a cedo as my primary so used that to slow down enemies and the sentients a bit giving me enough time to armour strip or simply rebuild my over guard back up to about 40000. The highest overguad mount i noticed was about 50050. And another advantage of overguard is that even the most annoying status effects like magnetic and toxin can't harm you. I also took him to an archon hunt. And will most likely use him mostly for arhon hunts unless they nerf him, which i sure hope they don't
Just don't tell Stynax that Rome fell, that's his only weakness
But umbra goes *insert screams of agony*
Everyone said "styanax bad"... then I was the first one in the alliance with the augment...
You also forgot that Styanax can fully strip enemy armor with only 200% power strength
Dante 2 2 4 gives a buff that gives overguard on every kill, and if it gets dropped you get the shield gate. so on low level missions you and your party have an effective 50k hp buffer before they even hit your shields and on Steel Path, you and your party are literally invincible as long as you’re killing things
Man who approved of this?
idk but give everyone else the same treatment. Bring back old Ash, Banshee, Ember etc. People will never know of old Ember today. Her kit may be more fun than the old one but she was better.
@@abominablesnowman64that's cap AF she was not better I've been playing since game came out and she has never been in a better state then rn, just cuz u can't afk ult doesn't mean she was better idk why people think shi like that is better
I was enjoying this in peace and quiet. Don't let DE know lmao.
"Boe Jiden" ? Haha, nice. I had one "Tonald Drump" 😂 thought I was the only one doing dumb shxt like that😅
I'm never gonna look at that frames chest the same way again... WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!!!!
It’s because styanax is a makeshift spartan. Kullervo is a convict. Lol
Meanwhile gauss is just running through with his massive shield
He doesnt even need shield. He dont need nothing. He just has pure 100% damage reduction and status immunity. Hes a god. 1 hp? no problem. He will still live through worldwide planet destruction without even a scratch.
😂 I just started Warframe when styanax was first introduced and me being in love with ancient Greece I bought him. Good to know I made a good choice
Watching this after Kullervo's overguard cap was nerfed to 10k and Dante's release is wild, like how does the basekit overguard printer give him and his teammates 60k overguard read as okay.
styanax is a spartan after all
Meanwhile Rhino’s quiet in the corner so no one brings up his 3 million overguard from damage absorption
I've gotten upwards of 5 million HP with Halo Ward. So I feel this. So gooood.
meanwhile my nyx is crying inside her slow walking bubble
Rhino steps in the room with his 18 million overguard
Rhino doesn't have overguard. It's listed as overguard for the sake of consistency but it's still calculated as Ferrite armor.
counter point, mesmer skin exists,
the only part thats "busted" is giving his overguard to team mates, and overguard starts lacking the more you go in level as it does not get effected by any sort of damage resistance like adaptation.
Edit: i realize that this is more about kuellervo getting an unfair overguard cap than stynax being "overpowered", point still stands tho.
You do realize mesmer skin can be given to teammates too with the augment right?
Its also just broken because of the 0.5 sec invincibility window that can be refreshed instantly as long as you get 1 point of overguard back. On top of having shieldgating on top of it. DR and adaptation does not matter as Styanax can just refresh it quickly and safely as he will almost always have energy to cast his 4, has shield gating to fall back on, and can still do massive damage while refreshing his gating.
@@highfighter219er5 that's fair but he mentioned that the only thing busted is that he gives his overguard to enemies too , meanwhile revenant can also do that
Overgaurd doesn’t need adaptation because it’s immune to status effects.
I've encountered one of those during a run of SP Circuit ,it was beautiful.
I just started playing him after that new skin released. I thought it looked awesome, but now styanax is my main frame. I love the CC, the heals are awesome, the energy buff is useful, and the rain of death is really fun.
I don’t think it’s too bad. Styanax is only obtainable pretty far in the game (unless you got him for free or bought him), while Kullervo can literally be your second Warframe. The og 5k cap doesn’t seem like much, but it literally makes you invincible without effort for the beginning of the game.
In other news, it also gave me the bad habit of ignoring lasers and shockwave moas, making it basically impossible for me to play other frames without getting knocked on my ass constantly lol.
i like more his tp like is best tp in game, try in keys option change kullervo press to tp to enemy and hold to tp to place, he insane fast on this, like it better that any other tp and it dont have big cost, make you stronger for short time and imortal for tp time.
thats generally my tip for every new player. spend some hours in duviri.. and you will be set for life
I love funny sparmtan mamn
Fun fact: kullervo is actually finnish
Also cuz kullervos kalevala story is just of him being in constant bad luck
Its over for Kullervocels.
Lore accurate Halo Spartans be like:
Then Dante floated over
I got Stynax the day it dropped. I'm a new player(relatively) Vanilla Stynax with nothing on it is fun.
Styanax totally has a cap on his overguard, unless they changed it
Random bombard rocket flyin your way 👀
That's old rhino 😂😂😂 as old rhino was invincible.
Damn ... u going make me download this again
The gummy worm WHAT 😭
cause *ARES!!! DESTROY MY ENEMIES, AND MY LIFE... IS YOURS.*
Kullervo is the betrayed frame after all
Of all places this was not the one I was expecting to see Bruno Diferente show up lol.
I see this as an absolute win
Can u make a full video showing build and how it work?
I just got the Styanax warframe and even without seeing this I can tell his entire deal is. "I don't care how strong you are. You're going to get impaled!"
*"THIS! IS! SPARTA!!!"*
Swear i thought styanax cap was 41k, did not know it was uncapped
Fun fact when I first started warframe styanax was the first warframe I got by accident and since then I haven’t had to craft a new warframe
As someone who started this game this morning, I understand nothing about this short. It is still very cool to watch. 😁
Screams in 12k shields
What the fuck do you mean Killed the Duke of Earl is playing in the background. Fuck yes DDS.
I gotta get me styanax, not cause hes good, but because i like the warcry he does when you use his 4th