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On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Dr. Michael Shermer, presidential fellow at Chapman University, and publisher of Skeptic Magazine. Dr. Shermer's brand-new book is called, "Giving the Devil His Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist." Tune in as Jesse and Dr. Shermer tackle faith, atheism, morality, free will, why bad things happen to good people, and so much more. You don't want to miss it!
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“Is Joe Biden mentally fit to run for President?”
“Yes.”
Now THAT is amazing!
“What the?!!!”
"Should white people have more babies?"
"No"
That already tells everything.
And he’s supposed to be a skeptic! 🤣🤣
This is aging nicely
Jesse lee may be a genius he had the atheist defending jesus
He’s a comedic genius. Funnier than anyone with a Netflix special.
Jesse may not be as dumb as he pretends to be but genius? Settle down dummy.
You’re observing honesty and sincerity and labeling it as genius. Perhaps the word Genius is related to Genuine. Genu, Geni, Gen.
Got to give the devil his due.
hes the dumbest genius i know
He a child uh duh lie.
athiests cannot believe in truth by definition he GOTTA be wit da deception by his nature
@@zReNAgAdE504 By definition, something is true when you can show that it's true. If you can't prove that a god exists, then you can't claim that it's true now, can you?
@@siegfriedmorse3129 o
@@siegfriedmorse3129 actual science proves a creator in almost evry way guy
This gonna be a great one ...beta
Happy Birthday Jesse!
Nobody:
Shermer: Nixon hated the media. Said it was all run by Juice.
Everybody: The media is all run by Juice.
100%
Conan the Septuagenarian TED TURNER A JEW???
@James Whitmore Rubert Murdoch is a nasty Zionist Juice Lover who supports every satanic war for satanic juices.
@James Whitmore Oh I guess you know Murdochs motives well after a quick Google search.
@James Whitmore They are overrepresented in the media by 2000%
Ok, gonna go put the Bluetooth headset on and mow, last time I did that it was when you had the nun on and I laughed so hard, I about fell off the tractor. So this time I will put the seat belt on.😎😂. AMAZING✊🏼
That was really really awesome interview. Some chuckles but I liked it way better than the nun. The guy seems to know but don’t want to know..
I do the same shit... listen while mowing, its AMAZING...
A jewish atheist. Imagine my shock.
Why? There are millions of them Communist Jews.
Marx was one.
😂😂"Jewish"
Jews believe that Jesus was just another guy. Same as what atheists believe
He's not Jewish. He's Greek.
I am an atheist and I think Shermer is a shmuch. I like Jesse.
how so?
bigdaddyfilmmaker when you see a house do you logically realize that it required intelligent design to create, and could not have evolved naturally?
Shermer is laidback, real, and cool. He was a former Christian.
Congrats on being simple
Jesse needs to watch Django Unchained.....Jesse is your everyday Stephan...
This guy completely dismantled Jesse's half-baked white-worshipping nonsense and I'm pretty sure he was half asleep while he did it.
Jesse polo game always on point
"Nixon hated the media, he thought that all media was run by Jews. He was pretty antisemitic." Well of course youd say that as you are a Jew. Nixon wasnt wrong on that regard.
Shermer is not Jewish. He was a Christian before he was an atheist.
Good interview.
Hake that was amazing.. way better than the nun. This guy seems to know, but doesn’t want to know.. 👍. Awesome interview.👍
No interview is good!
Hakes editing skills are up there with reality TV. He can craft an entire narrative out of an hour interview.
You have to respect his talent.
🤷♂️
@@mattlivingthedream Jesse says anything to get a response.
This guy bought me to atheism years ago and Jesse brought me back. Amazing interview!
If youre atheist you doesnt exist
Jesse thinks he doesn't sin, he is not the go to guy on religious scripture.
Evolution is a fairytale for adults.
So talking snakes, virgin birth, dragons and talking bushes are not fairytale material?
You follower, people led you to their beliefs. Backcountryj is a idiot who can't think for themselves and needs to be told what to think *confirmed*
jesse got put to sleep
So he's angry with God because his life sucked and he got no answers or relief from his religion..
Yes he was looking for religion to solve issues instead of looking within.
@Rationalthought83 How can a person be angry at something they dont even believe exists? 🤔
Further, how can you pretend to know the motivation behind the anger that you claim this Shermer guy has for god?
Your comment wasnt rational at all.
@@skunk12 You must didn't listen to him discussing how hard he chased Christianity when he was much younger at which point he turned away from God.
@@MarcusLeonard307 way to ignore REASON!
You "must didnt listen" when i asked:
How can a person be angry at something that they dont even believe exists?"
@@MarcusLeonard307 I'm not angry with a god i dont believe exists. Any god rather. I'm not angry at thousands of gods. I'm not angry at Zues or Thor either- who I also don't believe in.
I used to be a 'follower' of Shermer, Dawkins, et al. until I came out of the fallen state. Now I understand. Shermer is completely wrong in his materialist world view.
how so?
Right. For one thing, he says that we have a built in sense of right and wrong, but he can't explain it with his worldview. He basically slips God in under that idea. This is only one of his contradictions.
@Kenny Taylor Of course! But examine your whole worldview. Have you *fully thought through* the implications of a completely material world? Are you sure that you didn't import some ideas from a worldview that includes the notion of spirit?
For example, if we are purely material, then free will is illusory, because your every thought is a chemical result of previous thoughts. If you really believe this, then you will never experience anxiety, because you are only a "passenger" in a mechanism that goes along of it's own accord.
You probably do experience worry though. You probably believe you need to take action, or stop taking action, and you try to align what you do to what you *think* you should do.
This supervisory activity is not explained by materialism. It's glossed over. Or it's described as a "necessary illusion." That becomes a very complex belief system, which divides the intellect ("I know this is not true, and yet I must act as if it is," etc.).
Do you think that is a better place to stand than the simpler explanation that you are not material alone, but something more?
But yes, stand there all you like and I hope it's a good thing for ya! All the best :).
Not at all, You can't compare Shermer to Dawkins and the rest who actually make sense. Dawkins and Hitchens are not beta males.
@@the_feature_selector859 I don't understand your objection. Shouldn't we use logic to "speak on" any subject worthy of discussion? If logic is considered to be a poor approach, what is the right approach? Isn't the framework of quantum mechanics itself a logical response to data acquired in observation?
His example is a perfect example of the truth of what Jesse is saying "if your father Robs a Bank why should the child be punished for that"? In fact if the father is a criminal the children are probably going to suffer and that's just a natural fact. Who would deny that the wicked Deeds of parents who become alcoholics or drug abusers or criminals are not the cause of the suffering of their children? If there is no God then the suffering of all humanity is utterly meaningless. If there is a God suffering has a purpose and when push comes to shove so to speak who can deny that?
The Boers in South Africa 🇿🇦 are being slaughtered. Thank you Jesse for exposing the ism’s in a Fallen State.
Ron Riddle
I find that amusing begone boers
Good. They deserve to be 👍🏿👍🏿
@@eve3363 not all not all not all but most
@@Kamdo777 Haha, so it's ok to slaughter most (not all) people who find themselves in a place where they don't belong? Where to start? Again!
Michael Shermer: University teacher ; Wrote multiple books.
Still Michael Shermer: doesn´t know what NORMAL means
*"Most liberals set themselves up as an authority*
*on things they know little or nothing about !"*
-Indy Oskars
What is normal?
@@SVENSKA_ARABEN Nomal: If something conforms to a general pattern, standard, or average, we describe it as normal, but of course that standard can change over time. What's normal today may be "abnormal" in the future. The word normal comes from a Latin word normalis, which described something made with a carpenter's square." Note the words after 'of course'.
Jesse if you get on the Joe Rogan podcast before the end of the year you'll get all his subscribers on RUclips as he moves to Spotify.
@Damon Scott everyone is afraid of Jesse
Joe had Alex Jones on.
He would have his hands full with Jesse though.
come on Jesse, a 2 month old baby dying from leukemia didn't get what that baby deserved, stop it already!!
Dr. Michael Shermer is AMAZIN'!!!
"I celebrate every month for all races."
5 seconds later...
"I don't celebrate any race month."
That's the kind of men I like to see debating Jesse :)
No mutual exclusivity, mutual inclusivity only.
If only this guy knew how wrong and ridiculous Dr. Fauchi would end up being on covid haha
Please stop telling us when we can generalize and when we can't - we all understand this just as well as you do Mr. Shemer!
This is what happens when JLP runs up on a man that knows the bible better than he does. He deflects and run to the next question. Every episode the same stupid questions.
*"Most liberals set themselves up as an authority*
*on things they know little or nothing about !"*
-Indy Oskars
Im not a liberal and I am completely opposed to religion. What now?
@@colelewis9940
Why be opposed to religion ?
Religion is a hobby to most folks.
What now? Reflect upon this:
God existed LONG before the bible was written.
You don´t need the bible to believe in God.
@James Whitmore What´s the good in evidence if you are constantly
being shown more and more evidence and yet you still will not believe ?
But if you want or are that way, that´s fine with me.
@James Whitmore The evidence is simple to present. Most quantum theorist believe in the big bang theory. That the universe came from nothing. Now common sense and everyone believes something has to come from something. A creator creates something. A builder builds a home, a painter paints a painting. The child comes from the parents.
Nothing cannot come from nothing and if it can find an example where something comes from something.
Now I believe in a creator and show you logically that there is a creator and its your job to discredit the arguement (answer will not satisfy you i know)
Now Chrisitanity being the true religion. Their is a book called a bible which was basically written approxinately 60 years after the gospel. Before Jesus their was predicitions of him and his works. They predicted that God would walk amongst us. They predicted that he would die for our sins and live a Holy life. Finally they predicted the resurrection of Christ.
Now athiest scientist and christians society along with other religion know that Jesus existed. They know he lived a holy life. They know he got crucified. And lastly they know of the resurrection and the enpty tomb. Which was predicted before, happened, and no evidence has been presented that this did not occur. They also show that when he resurrected a lot of people had accounts of seeing him after.
The truth of the matter, if I presented video evidence of Jesus works it would not be enough for you to believe in his existence. Historians archeologist and quantum physicist have not disproved these theories and actually side that a supernatural God is more possible of creation.
Ravi quotes several renown quantum physicist including Stephen Hawking's on the big bang theory and their finding.
ruclips.net/video/vo7jkIcvFHI/видео.html
@James Whitmore Thanks for the reply and being cool about it. Nornally people argue or become hateful.
Because with the start of the big bang that is when time and energy started. So God in order to exist needs to exist outside of time and space. I know bible reference will not help my arguement but it does state in the bible in Genesis In the beginning (creation of time) God created the heavens and earth (space and matter).
Which the bible was speaking of the big bang theory before it was even a theory of the existence of the universe. Which shows evidence that God exist.
The problem is no theory does not argue against that and for that reason its difficult to argue against the bible.
So if a Christian family have a child and that child dies through disease at a young age whats the excuse then
"centrists" and "skeptics" always seem so cringe to me. Seems so flaccid and non driven, beta and womanly. A man should chose, not be skeptical.
Skepticism is one way to move toward truth. But only if truth is important to you. That's something you can choose.
@J Lo no such thing as "moral courage," courage is just courage. Uou either mean *moral integrity* or *courage.*
Don't be stupid as the fools who believe "truth isn't truth" aka boundless, unless you preface it with the word "absolute. "
@James Whitmore When your wife asks you which outfit she should wear do you remain skeptical and say she should decide because they are both fine and you are a centrist on the issue and they both have their positives and negatives or do you simply chose an outfit so you can move forwards and she can feel proud that their is a leader within the relationship? Im not saying people should blindly choose one way to go over the other without being rational, and logical about it, im saying if you define yourself as a centrist and a skeptic it sounds like qualities a women should aim to have, instead of defining yourself as a decision maker, which are qualities a man should aim to have.
"A man should chose, not be skeptical."
This has got to be the most anti-intellectual and most idiotic position I have ever heard. You won the darwin award.
@@dathip yes that was very stupid.
MR. Shermer has been WRONG so many times that I can't really take him seriously.
I don't mean he's a bad guy.. But his instincts are way off a lot of the time.
Anyway.. Was an interesting interview.
Please provide examples of Shermer's errors - I think you really mean that he said things with which you not agree.
50:30 Uh, Shermer... I got some real bad news for you buddy :(
EDIT: I can hardly believe how quickly the sinner reveals his sin. Jesse makes him squirm until he confesses: his wife is placed into the hands of dangerous/satanic men and Shermer is apologetic toward them. Amazin'. You can tell this is very serious because he is emotionally upset about it. Not only that, but then he uses Christ as an example for how to handle the situation, and uses the example of throwing stones at whores. Jesus said not to harm them, not that they hadn't sinned.
Ummm...in what sense is Schermer's wife "placed into the hands of dangerous/satanic men"? I don't remotely hear anything about that at the time code you cited.
I've seen thru Shermer since the 80s. Honestly, I wasn't sure Jesse could handle Shermer, because he has made his niche in countering arguments, not thru finding truths. Jesse exposed him so many times for being a fraud, that I was extremely impressed. I realized Jesse knows exactly what he is doing, because he knows exactly where he stands on anything in life. Unwaivering. VERY IMPRESSIVE!!
But he murdered Jesse, I don't know what interview you saw
Did he prove a god or his god?
Did he shave his eyebrow?
He shaves them and He started without a guard on the shaver by accident! I did it once Hahahaha
He’s a real life Uncle Ruckus...shit is unbelievable. I think it’s an act to line his pockets.
Look up David Cole Michael shermer. You won’t regret it
David Cole mention! White pilled again.
Are you Talking about their (Cole and Shermer) appearance on Phil Donahue ?
@@BlackBoxOnlineRadio David Cole made a fantastic speech about Shermer at the 1994 IHR conference. It's on his channel.
Jesse looks like he works at Hot Dog And A Stick wearing that shirt
Get him back on asap Jesse, please. I had a good time too.
I’m actually sad that this wasn’t a better interview because he is suppose to be such an intelligent guy but he is answering the questions the same way. Like when asked what is a man and he can’t come up with a idea or answer.
Jesse is David and he never misses with his slingshot! AMAZIN! 😎
Stupid people rarely recognize smart people. Meditate on that.
Jewish people really do have a revolutionary Spirit like Dr E Michael Jones says. It's in every last one of them.
Michael Shermer is not jewish
@Uka Yes. Does it matter?
@Uka That's happened to me before. The question was rhetorical. I don't care about the issue. I think people who obsess over this confuse religion with ideology and they believe many things that are not true.
@Uka I do care about ideology. But the people being complained about here were also persecuted in the USSR.
Jesus was a revolutionary
I think atheists should try ayahuasca , psylosibin or DMT to find meaning and see there is much more than just this reality.
Bad advice : all those drugs can cause psychosis in some people. However, I understand the essence of your suggestion and I agree that there appears to be a dimension that Does not to appear to them.
TRIPS TO NOWHERE WILL NOT BRING YOU CLOSER TO GOD. GOING DEEPER INTO YOUR OWN HEAD IS NOT THE WAY TO REACH OUTWARD.
THAT'S JUST SPINNING YOUR WHEELS IN THE MUD AND GOING NOWHERE FAST.
I'VE KNOWN PLENTY OF ATHEISTS IN MY LIFE WHO TRIP TO THIS DAY AND ARE NO CLOSER TO BEING BORN AGAIN NOW THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE DUMB TEENAGERS, LIVING AT HOME WITH MAMA. TRIPPING ONLY TAKES YOU FURTHER INWARD. THE ULTIMATE IN NAVEL GAZING BS.
@@DOOMJESUS and yet, the kingdom of heaven is within us, as Jesse likes to say?
@@DOOMJESUS jesus is the way brother i know that and I did not need psychedelics to find him , but no where in the Bible(that I know of) does it say not to find yourself or find God in fact in encourages it , and It does hint to not 'over' toxicate yourself yet it does not say not to do substances (or alcohol) , if your atheist friends do these psyodelics without a purpose meaning or trying to find something than yes they are just abusing the medicine and not using it for beneficial purposes , I'm not implying these medicines are for everyone one must have a strong mind and those who don't will just abuse it.
@B S I'm spiritualy religious in my own way and i belive in the bible to a extent we all know all books were manipulated by many hands sadly and we will not get the full truth from these books all the time for they were made to manipulate us as well...very sad.
OMG!!! He's got a degree in being politically correct. Beta to the max.
Amazing....
BETA!
It's a real tragedy that our children being "taught", meaning deceived by professors like this.
What's "amazin" is how immune JLP is to facts and logic. And how he resorts to "we don't have time for that" every time he gets an uncomfortable question from Shermer. Anyway, Jesse should be grateful that someone as respected and accomplished as Shermer would (unwittingly) dignify this joke of a show.
Yes - I'm very surprised that Shermer kept his temper and showed little irritation with the absolute nonsense and reactionary views that Jessee displayed.
@Malcom Cornwall, Well, Shermer has always been a class act and a cool guy. It's not like him to get into shouting matches. Still, you're right - JLP's nonsense can indeed be quite irritating. I got the impression that Shermer was simply unaware of JLP's history and tactics. It seemed like Shermer was figuring it out in real time as the interview went on. Anyway, I would love to see Shermer come back for a followup interview, although he may decide it's simply not worth his time, and I would certainly understand that. JLP needs to pick his battles with far less informed individuals if he wants any chance of appearing remotely legitimate.
BAAAYTA
I always appreciate the irony of the atheist/Darwinist who thinks suffering in life is “bad” or “wrong”. What happened to survival of the fittest?!
And more irony, homosexuality is natural
And pro-choice!
And he’s alpha but not the head!
He’s arguing with himself
"Survival of the fittest" is not a principle to live by, it's merely a description of how different species compete in an environment with limited resources.
It's not "survival of the fittest", it is the survival of the most adaptable. Homosexuality occurs in many species in nature. It is very "normal"
@@cullenarthur8879
1. Would the most adaptable be most fit to survive? Or would you say adaptable is unfit for survival?
2. How adaptable is homosexuality for reproduction?
JLP is always good for a lol! How does he still get serious people to talk to him? Isn't the gag up by now?
I found this guest awful, rude and unpleasant.. I'm glad you interviewed him Jesse. listening to his points of view.. lies and witnessing his severe indoctrination. I can't believe this person is a professor teaching young people.
Indoctrination of what?
A Christian would NEVER EVER NEVER call the quaran a holy book!
Christian scholars recognize many holy books from many religions.
What a stupid comment.
The Holy Qur'an is a Holy Book, as is the Torah and Gospel.
All the “Christian scholars” who call the Quran a holy book are incorrect. A religion that is contradictory to Christianity. It’s just stupid to think that the Quran is sent from the God of Abraham when the names of the Gods are different Allah (a derivative of Elohim) and Yahweh. Allah/Elohim= the god, not the name of God but a title.
@@rho4853 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow! I have never seen anyone make Michael Shermer defend Jesus! And I laugh at the difficulty the intellectuals have to answering simple formed questions.
@@donnaprather1066 well that's subjective
I like this atheist. Smart guy! Good interview.
This is the second atheist on the show that was as level headed as a beta can be.
Will you celebrate white history month , Jessy is savage 💪
Watching this a YEAR and half later What’s happened to Trump and Faucci; we have Biden in the WH and what’s happening now??? Are we better off??? I don’t think so! The USA is slowly losing all freedoms! People need to wake up!
Here is the answer for the atheist... In the Old Testament, Israel was commanded to slay ALL the men, women, and even children in the land of Canaan. Why? Because God exists outside of time & sees the end & the beginning simultaneously, HE knew how those children would turn out.
I know the Bible has many unexplained things. Like it said Jesus is descendant of David on his father side...only Joseph was not hisbiological father, only his putative one, Joseph raised him as a son.
Marty Herz
The chief of police in the city where I live said at a press conference that crimes are being committed by younger and younger kids than in any other time in our City's history. Kids who are ages 7-12 commiting acts of robbery, murder, even rape.
Omniscient and omnipresent...amen
@Jan Michael Vincent Free will.
So he created these children knowing beforehand that he would be commanding that they all be slaughtered? That's harsh.
Hi People live & die , rich & poor in very countries, Africa isn’t country, lot of poor people live in USA 🇺🇸 .. let us deal with our own problems. COV -19 it’s enough problem for everyone. Please change the way you address to Africa as poor country 🙏 from Mali 🇲🇱
I remember the days when people argued rationally like this Dr. He should stand for leader of the Dems.
I don’t think he’s a doctor.
So blind God makes him use non stop Godly word like evil demons good angels and don't know where his morals come from lol 😂😂😂😂 Lawd help this man
It's so funny to ask someone to look inside for their answer who is an atheist and is empty inside. There is no answer from the inside for him. His answers come from the world around him.
Bad things happen because we don't live in Heaven. We live in a world with rules and limits because we are in a fallen state. But even if you get to live to 100 years old, that's nothing compared to eternity.
During all this plandimic it's hard to catch your show as I am to busy to watch because I have to keep up with current events but I love your show ❤️ . I watch it when I can your Amazing 🤯
Mr. Shermer strains his credibility when he pretends there is no such thing as normal...or is afraid to say so anyway.
"We should listen to the other side" cuts Jesse off as soon as he disagrees hahaha
Great observation
Jesse cut him off plenty of times.
As if JLP doesn't do that all the time. Check your bias.
People getting what they deserve is not Biblical. Consider Job.
Jesse I child is innocent write that down and do your best to cultivate compasion at least for innocent children I don't get it why you are so against abortion but have no compassion for the ones that are already born. Sad that most atheist have more compassion than someone who claims to be Christian.
@Uka I said most of them I am sure there is some bad ones too but at least when they are good they are good from heart not like Christian that they are good because they think they gonna have a piece of heaven in the sky most Christians dont do anything unless they are getting something in return and that's sad sorry if my comment trigger you.
We have to teach kids manners cause naturally they just do wrong
Apologies, ask nicely, Say please, Say thanks and all that
Without an authority( the father and the mother) to instill that in kids
If not they grow up to be the jackass we all know
I agree with what you say but religion has done alot worse for people than for the good of people, people can belive what fallacys they want to belive but saying people who dont hold those beliefs are not moral is very wrong.
Gavin McInes on the next Fallen State, AMAZIN'!!
Another amazing thing is that an atheist thinks he goes to Heaven. Complete and total confusion in everything.
Did Jesse just come from refereeing a soccer game?
Agnostic atheist is the best position don’t believe in a god but don’t know if a god exists.
I appreciate a lot of what Jesse says and watched his show every day for almost a year, but his shtick only lasts for so long. If he really believes the things he says about white people being attacked and discriminated against, he wouldn’t continue to play into the kosher sandwich that causes it. I think the longer he’s gone on and more of a following he’s gotten, the more it’s just become a grift for him.
J-hate is the woke culture of the right. You haven't gotten Jesse yet.
You should know that not all oy-vey are pharisees, only their elect, the ruling 1%.
Jesse isn't about hating either the Pharisees or the common n confused subserviant majority of their domain.
Jesse just wasn't us all to come out of the imagination and overly emotional state that makes you a puppet to the Pharisees.
*Please keep in mind* that Jesse's priority is rebuilding the man, not hunting down the destroyers of men.
I left a reply very similar in sentiment to the latest from Lin Yen Chin. Presumably this was deleted as it contained certain words or word combinations that are being censored.
It is truly amazing, that M. S. called himself "alpha male".
Jesse is such a nice guy.
My 5 year old nephew has a higher I.Q than Jesse. Surely he has to be trolling.
@Jan Michael Vincent I find this to be very true. And I say that with understand that he can still BELIEVE as he pleases.
Such an interesting mamma boi this guest is.
You sound too self-serious and full of yourself and not very intelligent from seeing your other comments. Listen more and learn, brother.
I wonder if jesse will ever be on the JRE lol that would be amazing!
Micheal: Where do YOU think thoughts come from?
Jessie: From your father the devil.
😂😂😂😂
Atheist "think" their wise, but have become.. well u know
Jesse has forgiven the white man , for HIS role in slavery.
Not the head of your wife? BEYTAH! Haha entertaining conversation.
Jesse needs to actually read the Bible and he would've been able to dismantle this guy's arguments easily
*propositions**
No assertion is ever "an argument," that notion is a lie of the ivory towers. *An argument is a debate or discussion, NOTHING ELSE.*
@@linyenchin6773 OK smart guy
@@logoslandry5377 That's not a valid or sensible response!
If this was a heavyweight fight, the fight should have been stopped due to too much power punches by Jesse.
Jesse has new wave music for his intro ... about as white as you can get
Jesse needs to get his facts straight about Africa.
What are the facts.
Shermer is just like so many other supposed atheists, he is just mad at God.
Wrong. You cant be mad at someone who does not exist. What atheists are mad at is the belief in god and your fictional god ignores the extreme global suffering of all life on the planet including humans. So it's more the fact you are literally worshipping the fictional creation of infinite evil. In your fiction your god sends finite human beings to hell to suffer for infinity. Which means your fictional god is literally infinitely evil. (just to help you with the concept of infinity, that means your god is more immoral than osama bin laden times 100 trillion) Completely ignoring of course in your fiction god literally created osama which means osama is just an extension of god as is everything in existence,
If someone is mad at god, they're not an atheist. They're a bitter theist.
@@colelewis9940 even conceptual existence is still existence = you are nowhere near the level of intelligence that your heavy *Emotional Constipation* has convinced you to believe.
@@juniusss no, she's mad at her god aka her mamma.
Whenever Jessie gets hung up he always claims he running low on time. Lol
Im surprised this guy thinks God doesnt exist because life doesnt resemble a fairytale where no kids die and natural disasters never happen. Furthermore, if God rewarded his believers by protecting them from these things then he would essentially be removing free will to choose him. That would be a forced following by a direct rewards system. I thought this guy was intelligent but he is not able to manage that paradigm.
Be a man or remain in hell
That's the only choice we have.
God or false gods.
Jesse starts racism
@Mr Schneebly "Do you love white people" what kind of bullshit kinda question is that?
@Mr T that's what I said.
Shermer should study the doctrine of the fall to better understand evil. I'd recommend Genesis, Creation and Early Man by Fr. Seraphim Rose. I think he'd be compelled by the early Church Fathers, mostly unknown or ignored in protestant America.
This guy is a perfect example of an intellectual who became a intellectual Christian who studies the Bible and knows about God but don't really know God personally. It's all intellectual for him when it comes to these things and not revelations.
That's because a lot of intellectuals eventually turn away from Christianity because they realize they've kinda been duped.
If he understood the Bible so well how could he have not had that revelation?
After watching this I now realize Michael Schumer is not a very smart person at all LOL this guy's dumber than a box of rocks
He´s a deceiver like all liberals.
Liberalism means ´full of shit´.
When he meets Jesus at the Judgment he will believe. Let’s pray he repents and amends his life for the Greater Glory of God 🙏
What the f***!?
I think the guess took JLP to the mat and Jesse didn't do a good job defending his position. Using canned lines and "we need to move on" doesn't make a good debate. The whole purpose is to be outrageous.
You noticed too lol. No good answers in his debate so he goes "uuuuh we're pressed for time." 😂
In the end, the debate is between wisdom and intellect amazing thx for a great episode! perception vs reality.
More like wisdom vs intelligence, there doesn't seem to be much fact thumpin' aka intellect being slung here.
Great conversation
Guest didn't want to answer the same sex marriage question.
Jesse didn't want to answer the interracial marriage question.
@@no009limit if you listen to him he gives an answer when he asks do you know the difference between normal and abnormal, you missed it. Answer to interracial marriages Q is that they are abnormal, I rest my case!
@@linyenchin6773 I did say vs intellect, I am ESL don't crucify me on my English lol
I usually don’t like hearing Michael shermer talk, but he made great points & JLP being grounded in his beliefs really shows in this interview. Michael Shermer is a professional debater & I’ve never heard him defend Jesus which is amazing in its self lol! He is a smart guy who argues from the other point of view, & that’s what he tried to do.
He also could’ve left this interview, but didn’t, this was a great dialogue.
His "Logic" way of answering if there is a God came to a halt, once JLP said "if you had it you would know it". LOL rip!!!!
Sjw beta male goodness
So he doesn't believe in Satan but he has a book titled, Give The Devil His Due. 😕
It’s a common metaphor.
Satan is a deceiver.. of course he knows !
The Lord Will Provide It’s a secular metaphor. You’ve never heard that expression? Maybe you need to leave the religious bubble.
I have peace with no religion.
Shermer don’t seem to know what he’s talking about
@Alex Povich educated = enslaved to group opinion aka facts. Discernment isn't from education but wisdom.
Met him, he's a nice guy, but yeah he's got several biases he can't see. In his defense, he realizes people are biases and will set fair grounds rules for debate, but yeah he's blind to, even minimizes arguments he doesn't like. Perfect example " Jessie you like Trump but you are black?" Just racist nonsense.
It's funny that every time someone says that fatherless homes aren't that big of a deal and people dont need their fathers to live a good, peaceful life; always have divorced parents or lived without their father.