Actually I was about to ask, I’m a bit confused how someone could hand carve something so small on something likely very tough...???? What kind of hand tools? Do you know of any videos that explain? Or even any articles?? I’m very curious
Gloria - Some of the hand tools probably resembled the ones in the video, but were worked by hand. The Greeks had their methods of securing small projects for polishing, carving, engraving, and so on. Artisans could spend days or weeks working, leaving beautiful results.
What tells you they didn't have those tools . All you know about ancient history is what people want you to know. How about the Piri Reis map or the Zeno map ? There , enjoy this video ruclips.net/video/RgJ5A-SDL94/видео.html
I mean they spend a lifetime perfecting their craft from a very early age we dont really have the environment that fosters a gem carving prodigy where they carve gems 24/7 since age 7
General Statement: I possess four intaglios from my private collection (Ancient Carving Quality); 1. Ganymede, 2. Medusa, 3. Ares, and a 4. Centurion. They all are aquamarine cabochons with natural inclusions as it is to be expected in natural gems. They are exquisite if anyone is interested; Instagram, email, Paypal, all between the United States, sign upon receiving....
The modern gemstone still doesn't have the intensity of color of the original. I'm guessing there was an additional secret for enhancing the color, now lost.
I haven't done much with carnelian but a lot with clear to slightly creamy agate and it definitely darkens after working or cutting. A surface phenomenon that I believe to be an actual super thin patina (oxidization or interaction with other gasses in the normal air). It's not minor and the examples I've noticed with were only a few years from time of working so perhaps the old ones get even more color. And this can't just be rubbed off, even with solvent. Sunlight will fade some colors as well. Worst I've ever seen this with was black skin and tan skin agate (from India and from Montana in the cases I witnessed). This does not _seem_ to be single penetrating as much as on cut faces but then perhaps the tan skins were black skins? The ones I've worked were pretty similar on the inside.
How can the old one be more detailed than the new one. Wouldn’t it be better tools today?? The old one is much better in all ways how is that possible?
simple.the person who made it took more time,probably looked at real life subjects and could see what they were doing. the more a artist is able to look at a subject the better a piece will be and when they look at a real sunject it will be even better.cause 80% of art is looking at things.
The Greek original was carved by a master. He probably spent his entire life carving gemstones from a very young age. Technology is not a substitute for skill.
Kristian Johansson - Practice. Unlike the modern re-creator, the ancient artisan (as KingOfHearts pointed out) spent decades carving gemstones. He had tools that he could probably identify blindfolded and knew all the ways to use them to get the effects he wanted.
I would love to know where he got his burr set, and more about the tools. I've been looking around but cannot find one that carves beads like that. So many questions.
FlameCranium Go to the country's where there are archeological ruins, did one up, and then smuggle it out of the country....or just go to a museum and steal one. Of course you could just by a dremel and make one. LOL
I had rock polishing kit when I was younger.weeks of it going through various tumblers and alot of mess, it had nothing on the skill and results of this but it reminded me of that kit :D
Random Female It's Russian derived from the Cyrillic alphabet taught by two Greek monks Cyrillos and Methodios using the Greek alphabet to create the alphabet the Russians and other Slavs use with many variations.
For a different experience with this clip, slow it down to 0.25 speed. The you also achieving the right feeling for the true phase this kind of work really have.
perfect art !! Hello Sir. How to make solution of iron compounds? how much time you put into solution compounds? is make colour darker? what for you burn? thank you
THAT ANCIENT SPIRIT WAS AWESOME ARTIST..!! I wonder how he bullied us "oiii grandchild, you using powertools and cost you alot of money?? i just use knives, stones and a hammer huaahahahahah"
I have mixed feelings. The carver is undoubtedly tallented . they did a wonderfull job. The origonal however, has tons of details that are not seen in the new carving. The sandle strap, the knee and textures on it and some fine details in the body shape and in the hair...so while its well done( i couldn't do even half that well).it looks unfinished when side by side with the greek stone.
@TerminalFrost, I totally agree! Its amazing that with all our modern technology we still can't reproduce the amazing work that the ancient world managed to create with much more primitive tools, the Parthenon is another good example. That's not to say this artist isn't amazing though because he most definitely is :)
Plot twist: You can now see that gem you just watched being crafted in the Getty Museum's display case. The perfect heist is the one where no one thinks anything is missing. XD I jest. Seriously though, don't be a criminal. Impressive work, btw. :)
These books, by Henry Hunt, are really the best resource for learning to carve gemstone: American Lapidary "Designing the Carved Gemstone" Lapidary Carving for Creative Jewelry they cost about twenty five dollars each, dont pay the stupid prices on Amazon.
2009 vs 500 - the greek only had a sharp pointy thing. props to him for major skill.
1manuscriptman a bit belated, but I'd love to see a souce for the types of tools they used if you have any links
Pip Shepherd
2009 vs -500*
Actually I was about to ask, I’m a bit confused how someone could hand carve something so small on something likely very tough...???? What kind of hand tools? Do you know of any videos that explain? Or even any articles?? I’m very curious
Gloria - Some of the hand tools probably resembled the ones in the video, but were worked by hand. The Greeks had their methods of securing small projects for polishing, carving, engraving, and so on. Artisans could spend days or weeks working, leaving beautiful results.
The older gem has even more details. What an amazing piece of art 😮
"Heating the gem further intensifies the colour"
*fucking places it under a camp fire*
Lol right but that won't work under qurts or obsidian
Just imagine how the original was made without the modern tools we have.
They didn't have modern tools
But they had much more time and patience
The stone work capabilities of ancient civilizations never cease to amaze me. 👍
This work needs an incredible skill. I wonder how ancient people could carve stones in that fine details without the tools we are using now???
With patience and elbow grease.
I know! Amazing isn't it!
Sadly we will never know. It must have been tiring!
Aliens probably
What tells you they didn't have those tools . All you know about ancient history is what people want you to know.
How about the Piri Reis map or the Zeno map ?
There , enjoy this video
ruclips.net/video/RgJ5A-SDL94/видео.html
Both are amazing--old tech and new tech.
The narrator sounds like she's forcing herself to have this voice
Prizmar Valschi it ends in a painful tone
Gun to her back
this. this should be the top comment.
@@ilovespidernoir I'm so sorry for eating your species with my McDonald's meal
"LeviOsa"
I just want to thank everyone who makes this channel possible. You're giving out amazing content. Thank you SO much.
wow... this really opened my eyes to the techniques involved
The original has finer details like the hair, muscles, and face.
+Bacchanalia The original is far more detailed the modern work looks ham fisted in comparison
+gekiryudojo and you see how it is being made; electricity, power tools, diamond drills, and back then you had no one of that.
+Bacchanalia but they had Magic! (Just kidding!)
I mean they spend a lifetime perfecting their craft from a very early age
we dont really have the environment that fosters a gem carving prodigy where they carve gems 24/7 since age 7
General Statement: I possess four intaglios from my private collection (Ancient Carving Quality); 1. Ganymede, 2. Medusa, 3. Ares, and a 4. Centurion. They all are aquamarine cabochons with natural inclusions as it is to be expected in natural gems. They are exquisite if anyone is interested; Instagram, email, Paypal, all between the United States, sign upon receiving....
glad to see everyone else is here, 11 years later.
Lots of love and craftsmanship goes into one tiny gem. Now that's what you call dedication.
The ultimate draw it again challenge
And despite all the power tools, the original seem far more detailed! Amazing artifact.
no, it's just the light. Chavdar is capable of that and much more. Look for Olithica
Thanks! As a student of archeology I can say this was enlightening
So beautiful! Beautiful beautiful beautiful!! ❤️❤️❤️
My hats off to both carvers.
Bro i can't even draw a circle.
you should brag about it .
Circles and ellipsis' are fairly hard to draw in the first place. Now if you couldn't draw a square on the other hand...
UniquelyBodie this joke is old
if you do landmark they teach you actually
Keep trying! You can do it
Hi Tchavdar, nice to see your wonderful hands!
Wow, that is beautiful.
When you think of the time and effort that went into creating the ancient carved jewel,it makes it all the more impressive.Amazing.
The modern gemstone still doesn't have the intensity of color of the original. I'm guessing there was an additional secret for enhancing the color, now lost.
Maybe it's the particular material itself.
I haven't done much with carnelian but a lot with clear to slightly creamy agate and it definitely darkens after working or cutting. A surface phenomenon that I believe to be an actual super thin patina (oxidization or interaction with other gasses in the normal air). It's not minor and the examples I've noticed with were only a few years from time of working so perhaps the old ones get even more color. And this can't just be rubbed off, even with solvent. Sunlight will fade some colors as well. Worst I've ever seen this with was black skin and tan skin agate (from India and from Montana in the cases I witnessed). This does not _seem_ to be single penetrating as much as on cut faces but then perhaps the tan skins were black skins? The ones I've worked were pretty similar on the inside.
dlwatib Or maybe the best artifacts survive because they are more valuable
Would you know anything about carnelian arrowheads? I have a arrowhead confirmed to be carnelian but it was found in the Rocky Mountains.
The big secret is to to find a better rock to begin with.
Fascinating! Thank you very much.
How can the old one be more detailed than the new one.
Wouldn’t it be better tools today??
The old one is much better in all ways how is that possible?
simple.the person who made it took more time,probably looked at real life subjects and could see what they were doing.
the more a artist is able to look at a subject the better a piece will be and when they look at a real sunject it will be even better.cause 80% of art is looking at things.
star and fox that dosent explain the details on the original.. it is so detailed that a CNC can hardly do the same thing without magnifying glass
The Greek original was carved by a master. He probably spent his entire life carving gemstones from a very young age. Technology is not a substitute for skill.
Kristian Johansson - Practice. Unlike the modern re-creator, the ancient artisan (as KingOfHearts pointed out) spent decades carving gemstones. He had tools that he could probably identify blindfolded and knew all the ways to use them to get the effects he wanted.
Kris J Laziness.
I miss these types of videos on this channel.
I would love to know where he got his burr set, and more about the tools. I've been looking around but cannot find one that carves beads like that. So many questions.
Cyle Thomas likewise. My finest tips are nowhere near as small as the ones the carver in the video was using. Would love to get some real micro tips.
He most likely had that commissioned by a custom Smith.
They are for sale from jewelry suppliers, like Rio Grande or Contenti. They sell micro-burrs down to 0.1 mm diameter.
Thank you for sharing! So many people don't know what is involved with gem carving.
i want a goddamn carved gem
FlameCranium
Go to the country's where there are archeological ruins, did one up, and then smuggle it out of the country....or just go to a museum and steal one. Of course you could just by a dremel and make one. LOL
i agree with flamecranium
I want a goddamn carved gem, too.
Ebay sells them. Or if you are feeling inspired you can try your hand at making one.
Watch your mouth boy
A real treat! Thank you!!
Weird how the copy has LESS detail than the one from ancient times. Imagine how skilled that dude must have been to make that back then.
The muscles look more realistic on the original.
Both are realistic, the copier just made a leaner body and the original looks like a body out of JJBA
This is fascinating!!! I have long wanted to learn how to do it! Can you recommend any further videos or books?
That beautiful voice of the announcer! I fell in love!
I had rock polishing kit when I was younger.weeks of it going through various tumblers and alot of mess, it had nothing on the skill and results of this but it reminded me of that kit :D
2500 years and Epimenes still got it
Aside from the beauty of the carvings, the tiny Greek lettering is truly amazing.
Random Female It's Russian derived from the Cyrillic alphabet taught by two Greek monks Cyrillos and Methodios using the Greek alphabet to create the alphabet the Russians and other Slavs use with many variations.
Omg the original is amazing . It even shows muscle striations
never knew you could engrave gemstones
A lot of ancient Asian jewelry from China, Japan and Korea have carved/engraved gemstones such as jade.
i though i was the only one using rusty nail water
+dojufitz is it a carved jem?
For a different experience with this clip, slow it down to 0.25 speed. The you also achieving the right feeling for the true phase this kind of work really have.
Thank you for your video,,🙏🙏🌷🌷
its new information for me
about gemcarving👍👍
her voice is so soothing.
In love with these
Wow thats so much work and it's neat too
Was this narrated by Jacqueline Kennedy?
perfect art !! Hello Sir. How to make solution of iron compounds? how much time you put into solution compounds? is make colour darker? what for you burn? thank you
Impressive & Besutiful!
how did they see that fine detail back then when working that small? they must have eaten their carrots and broccoli.
THAT ANCIENT SPIRIT WAS AWESOME ARTIST..!! I wonder how he bullied us "oiii grandchild, you using powertools and cost you alot of money?? i just use knives, stones and a hammer huaahahahahah"
The ancient one looked way more appealing to the eye.
just the photo light... the new one is better
I have mixed feelings. The carver is undoubtedly tallented . they did a wonderfull job. The origonal however, has tons of details that are not seen in the new carving. The sandle strap, the knee and textures on it and some fine details in the body shape and in the hair...so while its well done( i couldn't do even half that well).it looks unfinished when side by side with the greek stone.
Does anyone know what type of burrs he is using? They don’t seem to be diamond and I can’t seem to find “copper burrs”
Did you have found any answers for this question? Cuz i ve the same problem 4 years later
Answer was never found! Someone told me that they do their own burs! But how….. I just don’t know.
Turn the video speed up to 1.25 and she sounds normal.
Lmao, She is trying to be overdramatic for a shitty stone.
If you go one more she sounds like she is running out of breath while talking fast
I think that the real beauty lies in seeing that the ancient Greek gem is carved in greater detail than the modern reproduction.
i want leaning intaglio gem that's so wonderful process
What kind of tool are they and what are they called
Wow you are brofisionl artist 👍👍👏
Very nice, I got inspired.
Far more interested as to how the ancients did it.
Beautifully done and explained. Thank you!
That was awesome!
Lovely!
Unbelievable work
Anyone else feel like they’re being read a bedtime story?
Incredible video.
Thanks a lot!
Beautiful
@TerminalFrost, I totally agree! Its amazing that with all our modern technology we still can't reproduce the amazing work that the ancient world managed to create with much more primitive tools, the Parthenon is another good example. That's not to say this artist isn't amazing though because he most definitely is :)
Plot twist: You can now see that gem you just watched being crafted in the Getty Museum's display case. The perfect heist is the one where no one thinks anything is missing. XD
I jest. Seriously though, don't be a criminal. Impressive work, btw. :)
Do anyone know the name of the grinding wheel equipment including the water pump he used at :30-:46 where to buy, or know a video on how to make one.
i like gems plus art.
Please tell me the name of this artist
Chavdar Chushev
Are there present day Intaglio artists selling their works? Website links?
Yes there are! Our head engraver, Chavdar Chushev, is the one in this video. You can get more info in our profile or by looking up Olithica.
Must have been ancient technology that we know nothing about, but think we're so much smarter than the old civilizations.
Where can I find these copper bits?
Ebay and various jeweler supply stores.
These books, by Henry Hunt, are really the best resource for learning to carve gemstone:
American Lapidary "Designing the Carved Gemstone"
Lapidary Carving for Creative Jewelry
they cost about twenty five dollars each, dont pay the stupid prices on Amazon.
That's so cool I wanna learn
Search here in RUclips for "Pylos Combat Agate". A beautiful scene with unreal detail.
brilliant video , thank you . retired jeweller Vancouver Canada
Wonderful!
can you explain how to make a iron compound from a nail? i would try to enhance the color of gemstone of mine too
just put nails to rust in water...
The speakers' voice sounds like Jackie Kennedy Onassis voice
this meant a lot to me!!!!!!!!
the original was thicker
for signet rings are gem stones better than the all gold ones or is it just choice
Where to find the tools he used for carving? Never seen any like that.
they make them
wow, that was awesome! :-)
Hello, where can I buy the drill bits used in this video? Thank u very much in advance!
I went from watching Play-Doh to this
3:53 correct me if I’m wrong but that ‘stone’ looks more like tortoiseshell than that of a gem.
Many thanks
Please give up information website selling grinding head used in the clip. Thank you so much
Can this be done to harder gems like Rubies, Sapphires and Emeralds that aren't heat treated? i really want to know.. guess it depends on hardness...
Nailed it.
This voice could send me sleep😴
It starts with the searching stone
Bobby Duke probably got inspired from this video
I always wondered how the Myceneans and Cretans did their fine seals and other carvings in stone. Thank you for this video!
Yea... Myceneans had Dremels lol!
The shit i watch at 3am