as a lapidary that works mainly with fossil materials(dinosaur bones and corals), i know the mental struggle of seeing beautiful specimen that a part of you wants to cut, even though deep down you know you should leave it whole. stunning job with that beast!!!
Dwayne is just gorgeous! Truly a museum worthy piece. The work Big Z did on it truly seems to honor the fundamental nature of opal, which feels like something your family is all about. Thank you for sharing the mental and physical journey you went through, Justin!
Absolutely amazing to see Dwayne the rock all polished and left a one beautiful piece! So glad to see it wasn’t cut up Justin. Many times it’s the best to see on the natural state. Especially Opal mixed in Quartz. Truly a one of a kind piece Justin . Thanks for sharing.
I would find someone that does great woodwork to build up a beautiful cradle or stand to display it!! Its one of the most beautiful rocks these eyes have ever seen
Whilst I can't imagine I'll ever be present to hold Dwayne, I just wanted to say it's a wonderful gift that you are giving people to allow them to hold this amazing earth treasure.
Dwayne definitely didn't need to be chopped down into smaller stones. That is absolutely beautiful. I have lots of pretty rocks that could be cut, slabbed and polished, but they are beautiful as they are. Some might wind up worked, but some won't as long as they are mine.
Stunning piece, Justin! I think you did the right thing, leaving it whole. Having a large rock with patches of opal in it shows the natural character of the minerals as they would (apart from the polish) be found. Opal gemstones are stunners but none show this. I also think the cracks in the quartz are pretty in themselves.
So, I have a rock tumbler and thought I was doing really with my little hobby. After watching the beautiful transformation of that opal, I’ve decided to take up carpentry . Awesome job.
We just spent the weekend at the Puyallup, WA Show. Thank all of you who do these shows. You bring us stunning natural beauty from all over the planet. Nice folks, too! Family friendly!
Opals are my favourite stones, and have been for decades! I love watching the videos to see these treasures come to life. What artistry! Thank you for sharing your skills with us!
G'day Dwayne, I'm Danish and lived in Melbourne many years ago. My youngest daughter was born there and my eldest daughter finished first grade there. Therefore I think the best gift to my daughters now, is something Australian. I'm prepared to invest 20k AUD for similar value opals, if I also get the cutting story on RUclips. If you think this could be a win-win please let me know. Be Carl
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned. Well done...
Thank you for sharing the journeys of these crystals and the philosophy you aproach the cuts and life with. I really appreciate your warm, loving, gentle and kind energy and the community you're drawing together.
I originally thought you were going to cut it up, but after you cleaned it up and produced the final product, I am happy you didn't. What a fantastic, beautiful stone you produced. Great job; great video!
Dwayne is a breath taker that's for sure. I appreciate your words and thoughts at the end of the video and I agree. Sometimes the mystery and the not knowing what's inside makes something all that more special and valuable. I hope that Dwayne always stays how he is now- whole, magnificent, magical & mysterious
Justin you and Marty have turned Dwayne into a superstar opal. He would win an oscar😂 You have got the right balance between opal and host rock it’s stunning. The opal I work on is tiny in comparison but everyone is beautiful. Dwayne is the big daddy of opal.
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned. Well done...
Right if I owned it I would have been so tempted to go all out and maybe leave my hand print of quartz on that smooth side if I really wanted to leave some quartz and name it the hand and heart and vains/veins (if I could not get all the quartz out triple play on words vein) of the opal cutter
Simply amazing! Theres not enough words in the world to explain how special that stone is. Maybe its because the silica opal molecules were in an unfamiliar, nontypical environment being quartz they rounded up as much support and brought all the cousins and extended long lost aunties and uncles to make a good environment by sheer size.
That piece is outstanding a stunning piece of Quartz and Opal i agree with you Justin leave it alone this needs to be left as is it is twice as impressive as it is.
How fabulous! Thanks for showing off Dwayne! So wonderful that you led with your heart and that Big Z enhanced your opal friend so beautifully by not cutting him into individual stones and polishing him up! Maybe someday I'll get the chance to hold him too!
Really love the way this came out! Y’all did a great job and it’s beautiful the way it is now as a specimen piece. I really hope you bring it again next year so I can not only meet you but get to see it in person!!
This may seem over-whimsical, but I'm mentally picturing this piece against a starscape as an inhabited asteroid, with the lights of its domed cities and hydroponic farms glowing into the cosmic night. Thank you, Justin, for the continual interest and calm your videos gift me.
Yes! A carving. Thanks, Justin. This is such a unique and amazing piece. I'm glad you brought in an expert at carving to make this the best possible speci. All that said, I look at the obvious chunks of opal sitting in this and wonder what it would look like if you chopped it up. You might have 3-4K carats of gem quality opal. Forget I said that. It's sacrilege to even think it.
Thank you so much for your & big Z's Sterling effort in bringing out the sublime beauty of "Dwayne". A piece that will go down in history as an one off specimen.
Justin, I have no words. Speechless! How can anyone describe such a unique, magnificent piece?!? Well, I just used two words....but they are not enough. Give Dwayne a hug for me!
:,) it's great to see the growth of Dwayne. Technically, you're breaking him down, but it's necessary to sculpt him into a beautiful, unique person... I mean piece! Your videos always hit me. I know it's the music and the whole point lol but since I started watching, I'm always inspired to be like Justin.
That was a giant crystal opal! Thank you for sharing! I can't help but have the feeling but there could be something even more beautiful under the quartz. I think I would have removed more. I understand why you didn't and respect it but I can't help but want to see what's under it. Definitely would never cut it up into smaller stones
If you took off more rock it may turn out that it’s not all one big piece which could potentially negatively effect the value. I think not knowing for sure whats under there is better as you hope it’s all just one single huge lump of opal but It might not be. It could be a few seperate chunks just held together by the quart.
Wow that's stunning. I have always loved opel and this is the most beautiful I have ever seen! Thank you for including us in the process. I wish I had know about this being in Arizona, I would have found a way to come from Texas to see it.
Omg I’ve been waiting for this video for months now! And it’s finally here!! ❤, just finished preforming some opals from grawin, keep up the amazing content!!!! 🎉🎉
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned. Well done...
Wow, that is gorgeous and I am so glad that you left it in the state that you did. Dwayne is unique, and I'd love to hug that thing! Nicely done folks!
Opal as jewellery is stunning in itself but obviously these tend to be small pieces. There is something about the lustre and mass of ‘Dwayne’ which, like a bar of gold allows the senses to run riot! Big Z has brilliantly succeeded in keeping the whole looking like a beautiful natural rock. A labour of love with a stunning outcome.
I had almost completely forgotten about Dwayne the Rock! What absolutely stunning work, I wish I had been able to get down to Tuscon this year. I hope I get to hold it some day. Big Z did some quality work for sure. Your faith was not misplaced.
The whole time i was thinking of what kind of beautiful sculptures you could make with that, but your words at the end really touched something in me. Yes, as a gem cutter you trade in gems and to a degree have to set aside preference for factual value, but sometimes, rarely, a specimen can transcend its place in a business and remain firm in the palace of passion. A rancher, for comparison, may see pleanty good heads of cattle pass to the slaughteryard, and be content that his work will produce fine beef, but every once in a while a calf can be born and grow into such a bull, the notion of letting it be anything other than a beautiful animal feels wrong, not because the steak wouldnt be the best, but because chance and nature rarely produces such a gift that even the most profit-driven cant deny the gratitude. Truely a stone to be experienced
Absolutely dazzling! You could put that in a cabinet and each morning you could move it a little and it would feel and look like a new gem every day! 🙂👍✌🖖
I'm so Glad you kept Dwayne in one piece! Not quite my idea of narrowing it down to its skeleton to make a quartz tree with opal fruit, but I think it's better this way. Feeling the weight and experiencing the magnitude of its size is better.
What a beautiful Opal specimen Dwayne The Rock is! I'm so glad your keeping it so close to natural as you can without destroying it! Build Black Opal Direct museum and display is with all your other beautiful Gems in your collection, so millions of people can see what Mother Earth has given you! Til next time take care and be safe...
I absolutely love they way you did this stone up! It’s fascinating and beautiful! What a wonder nature is! I love your videos! Keep up the good work!😊❤
Nice as a specimen mate! Some good colour for Andamooka, l can see why he didn't carve into it for 60yrs, lve never seen any rough in quartz. We had a big chunk of Boulder, great colour, but a lot of it was thin seam....so it was dads paperweight!
I admire opals above all other gems. The casual commentary accompanying the expert craftsmanship make these videos a genuine pleasure to watch.
Tell the truth. Do you occasionally pour a dram in the evening and just sip and study this specimen? I would.
Haha I have done lol
Nature's work of art. You were right to leave it in its uncut state - an historic rarity.
as a lapidary that works mainly with fossil materials(dinosaur bones and corals), i know the mental struggle of seeing beautiful specimen that a part of you wants to cut, even though deep down you know you should leave it whole.
stunning job with that beast!!!
Dwayne is just gorgeous! Truly a museum worthy piece. The work Big Z did on it truly seems to honor the fundamental nature of opal, which feels like something your family is all about. Thank you for sharing the mental and physical journey you went through, Justin!
Absolutely amazing to see Dwayne the rock all polished and left a one beautiful piece! So glad to see it wasn’t cut up Justin. Many times it’s the best to see on the natural state. Especially Opal mixed in Quartz.
Truly a one of a kind piece Justin .
Thanks for sharing.
I would find someone that does great woodwork to build up a beautiful cradle or stand to display it!! Its one of the most beautiful rocks these eyes have ever seen
Thanks you for keeping Dwayne the way he was born, perfect as can be.
Dwayne is beautiful. The amount of tedious work involved to get it to this point is mind blowing. Well done Big Z and Justin
A piece worthy of a great museum…
Really spectacular.
I normally don't comment on videos anywhere, but this was absolutely stunning in the end. Great work.
Thank you 🙏
thanks for ruining the ending for me.
Wow! Stunning. Thanks for sharing 😊👏👍
I really enjoy these videos. Really nice work.
@@blackopaldirect 60 years!
Dwayne The Rock has never looked better and that flash of red you get when you turn him around just hits you, to me he’s now perfect 👍🏼 🥰
I love the polished grey quartz along with the blue, green opal the contrast is unique.Leave it like this please.
Whilst I can't imagine I'll ever be present to hold Dwayne, I just wanted to say it's a wonderful gift that you are giving people to allow them to hold this amazing earth treasure.
This is what you get when passion over rides greed.
A very beautiful specimen that is in safe hands. 👍
Dwayne definitely didn't need to be chopped down into smaller stones. That is absolutely beautiful. I have lots of pretty rocks that could be cut, slabbed and polished, but they are beautiful as they are. Some might wind up worked, but some won't as long as they are mine.
Stunning piece, Justin! I think you did the right thing, leaving it whole. Having a large rock with patches of opal in it shows the natural character of the minerals as they would (apart from the polish) be found. Opal gemstones are stunners but none show this.
I also think the cracks in the quartz are pretty in themselves.
So, I have a rock tumbler and thought I was doing really with my little hobby. After watching the beautiful transformation of that opal, I’ve decided to take up carpentry . Awesome job.
It fills me with such joy that you left Dwayne as such a large specimen. He is beautiful beyond measure!
As someone who has never cut or polished a stone, I agree. Leave as is. No cutting. That thing is beautiful. Great museum piece!
I love that you let this piece be, without having to make it something it never was. I'm in awe of you, sir. Beautiful specimen.
We just spent the weekend at the Puyallup, WA Show. Thank all of you who do these shows. You bring us stunning natural beauty from all over the planet. Nice folks, too! Family friendly!
Opals are my favourite stones, and have been for decades! I love watching the videos to see these treasures come to life. What artistry! Thank you for sharing your skills with us!
G'day Dwayne,
I'm Danish and lived in Melbourne many years ago.
My youngest daughter was born there and my eldest daughter finished first grade there.
Therefore I think the best gift to my daughters now, is something Australian.
I'm prepared to invest 20k AUD for similar value opals, if I also get the cutting story on RUclips.
If you think this could be a win-win please let me know.
Be
Carl
to me opal is the only stone. i'm a woman but never felt one iota of pull toward diamonds or any other stone. just opal
Yay, Duane the Rock made his debut! He's absolutely amazing!
Haha thank you yeah he back and looking good
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned.
Well done...
What a beautiful piece! I've seen Dwayne pop up every now and then in other videos, but I never imagined it would be so stunning! Great work!
I can appreciate the mystery of this stone too. You made the best decision.
Thank you
Thank you for sharing the journeys of these crystals and the philosophy you aproach the cuts and life with. I really appreciate your warm, loving, gentle and kind energy and the community you're drawing together.
I've recently caught the old 'opal fever' and this piece has just blown my mind! Absolutely incredible and thankyou for sharing
You are so welcome!
I originally thought you were going to cut it up, but after you cleaned it up and produced the final product, I am happy you didn't. What a fantastic, beautiful stone you produced. Great job; great video!
Dwayne is a breath taker that's for sure. I appreciate your words and thoughts at the end of the video and I agree. Sometimes the mystery and the not knowing what's inside makes something all that more special and valuable. I hope that Dwayne always stays how he is now- whole, magnificent, magical & mysterious
Justin you and Marty have turned Dwayne into a superstar opal. He would win an oscar😂 You have got the right balance between opal and host rock it’s stunning. The opal I work on is tiny in comparison but everyone is beautiful. Dwayne is the big daddy of opal.
Thank you
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned.
Well done...
I agree: beauty over money....a natural work of art. How moving. ❤
Absolutely beautiful! Although, I have to admit I'm dying to see what he looks like on the inside. Kudos on your respect for the Rock as he is.
Right if I owned it I would have been so tempted to go all out and maybe leave my hand print of quartz on that smooth side if I really wanted to leave some quartz and name it the hand and heart and vains/veins (if I could not get all the quartz out triple play on words vein) of the opal cutter
Thankyou for sharing the mysteries of Dwayne. What a beautiful friend you have there❤
The polished host stone is gorgeous also. I'm so jealous.
Super cool! A museum might really appreciate that !
Na they hate million dollar gems
Simply amazing! Theres not enough words in the world to explain how special that stone is. Maybe its because the silica opal molecules were in an unfamiliar, nontypical environment being quartz they rounded up as much support and brought all the cousins and extended long lost aunties and uncles to make a good environment by sheer size.
Ohh I want it 😍 opals aways been a favourite of mine mum said its too much antiques road show as a kid but I love them.
That piece is outstanding a stunning piece of Quartz and Opal i agree with you Justin leave it alone this needs to be left as is it is twice as impressive as it is.
This is one of the most awe inducing pieces of beauty I have ever witnessed, mother nature at her finest!
Whoaaaa! That's one matrix that I'd love to be trapped in. Exquisite work, man. I'm gobstopped!!!.
That Opel is Awesome!! Sooooo Pretty, I've got several jewelry in opel and Black Opel ring. Love that Stone!!
How fabulous! Thanks for showing off Dwayne! So wonderful that you led with your heart and that Big Z enhanced your opal friend so beautifully by not cutting him into individual stones and polishing him up! Maybe someday I'll get the chance to hold him too!
Really love the way this came out! Y’all did a great job and it’s beautiful the way it is now as a specimen piece. I really hope you bring it again next year so I can not only meet you but get to see it in person!!
Incredibly beautiful and stunning u were right not to cut it up some things r better left together!!!
This may seem over-whimsical, but I'm mentally picturing this piece against a starscape as an inhabited asteroid, with the lights of its domed cities and hydroponic farms glowing into the cosmic night.
Thank you, Justin, for the continual interest and calm your videos gift me.
A very interesting imagination you have.
Props for the imagery! I can now picture a Logan’s Run-esque future scape with this
The most colourful part of the opal looks like a heart , beautifully polished piece.
Yes! A carving. Thanks, Justin. This is such a unique and amazing piece. I'm glad you brought in an expert at carving to make this the best possible speci.
All that said, I look at the obvious chunks of opal sitting in this and wonder what it would look like if you chopped it up. You might have 3-4K carats of gem quality opal. Forget I said that. It's sacrilege to even think it.
Hush your mouth haha🤣 but true that
That would bring a tear to Aaron and Greg from the dragonfly claims eyes. Magnificent
Nature’s creations are amazing. The artisans on this project to be able to draw out the beauty and mystery of this piece are truly gifted.
Absolutely beautiful as always
Beautiful! Even better that you kept in a mostly natural state.
In so glad you are keeping a it is.... It is sooo beautiful!!!!
You definitely made the right decision! Beauty
Thank you so much for your & big Z's Sterling effort in bringing out the sublime beauty of "Dwayne". A piece that will go down in history as an one off specimen.
Glad you enjoyed it Julie
WOWZERS!!!! BEAUTIFUL OPAL!
Justin, I have no words. Speechless! How can anyone describe such a unique, magnificent piece?!? Well, I just used two words....but they are not enough. Give Dwayne a hug for me!
Wow 😍 what a big ol' beauty! It looks like a giant crystalline heart!
:,) it's great to see the growth of Dwayne. Technically, you're breaking him down, but it's necessary to sculpt him into a beautiful, unique person... I mean piece!
Your videos always hit me. I know it's the music and the whole point lol but since I started watching, I'm always inspired to be like Justin.
I’ll look forward to the Tucson Show next year. Hope to see you there . Remarkable specimen, you rock Dwayne, literally...Bravo🇺🇸🙏🏻💪🏼
Absolutely stunning that big chungus. I still remember you trying to carve it with a Dremel and surrender 😂 glad you prevailed 👍
That was a giant crystal opal! Thank you for sharing! I can't help but have the feeling but there could be something even more beautiful under the quartz. I think I would have removed more. I understand why you didn't and respect it but I can't help but want to see what's under it. Definitely would never cut it up into smaller stones
Yes and that is the cool mystery
If you took off more rock it may turn out that it’s not all one big piece which could potentially negatively effect the value. I think not knowing for sure whats under there is better as you hope it’s all just one single huge lump of opal but It might not be. It could be a few seperate chunks just held together by the quart.
Of course it could be. Or there could be the most beautiful pattern never seen before. But I don't know anyting. You guys are the experts
@@hawaiiangunner I’m no expert. I don’t have a clue. 🤷😂
@Happy Bee lol me too, but I LOVE watching this show!!!! Never miss a episode!!!
That is just stunning..... I am speechless....
Wow that's stunning. I have always loved opel and this is the most beautiful I have ever seen!
Thank you for including us in the process.
I wish I had know about this being in Arizona, I would have found a way to come from Texas to see it.
I love your sensitivities. Only a sensitive person could make that.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for showing us a chisheled and buffed 'Dwayne' the rock
Simply stunning, and what a calming video to watch.
That's an incredible amount of beautiful bright colour in that specimen 👌
Excellent piece and a job well done 👍
Such beautiful colors! Very nicely done and I know that was a lot of hard work! Thanks for sharing with the world and preserving such a specimen!
Wow, that's beautiful and amazing. Very unique and interesting piece.
Dwayne is a great representative of Earth isn't it? The bright and the dull, the muddy and the brilliant.
Wow 😲😳 Dwayne is now more magnificent than ever, a very stunning piece! Lucky are the people who can hold it!
Dwayne is beautiful and very deserving of only being uncovered as much as he has been.
WOW, I'm mesmerized. This is really special.
Omg I’ve been waiting for this video for months now! And it’s finally here!! ❤, just finished preforming some opals from grawin, keep up the amazing content!!!! 🎉🎉
Hope you like it!
Glad to finally see an update on this. Agreed it shouldn't be cut up. I think you may still have a good bit more color that could be exposed though
Justin , I’m speechless ! 😶💙💚❤️💜🙏🏼
Awestruck Justin!! That’s a museum piece! Priceless!❤️
What a masterpiece you are Dwayne! Handled & sculptured with such care & precision by the best Opal peeps! Top work Team BlackOpalDirect 🙌🏽
Much appreciated
Hello friend. Amazing piece, spectacular work... If you pause your video at 8:03, it looks exactly like a human like face. The darker part being the mouth and the beautiful exposed opals at the top being like a crown. I would strongly suggest going with that theme and working on that to complete this, what in my opinion, will turn out to be a masterpiece worthy of a museum. I'll be staying tuned.
Well done...
that’s absolutely beautiful. prize piece!
Gorgeous piece. Congratulations, Justin.
Opals really are very beautiful and that is just amazing. It looks great with the quartz polished up a bit too.
man been waiting a couple years or something like that to see him opened up more!! amazing!! wow looks like a flower in 3D
That’s absolutely gorgeous and I’m glad you’re leaving it whole.
That's the plan!
To have that kind of magic in ones hands ...and to expose that magic with the magic within ones self is a grait gift . Thank you bouth
Wow, that is gorgeous and I am so glad that you left it in the state that you did. Dwayne is unique, and I'd love to hug that thing! Nicely done folks!
there are just no words to describe such a beautiful thing! I'm in awe!
Opal as jewellery is stunning in itself but obviously these tend to be small pieces. There is something about the lustre and mass of ‘Dwayne’ which, like a bar of gold allows the senses to run riot! Big Z has brilliantly succeeded in keeping the whole looking like a beautiful natural rock. A labour of love with a stunning outcome.
What a stunning piece. Great work between you. Dwayne is one hell of a looker!
Thank you kindly!
I had almost completely forgotten about Dwayne the Rock! What absolutely stunning work, I wish I had been able to get down to Tuscon this year. I hope I get to hold it some day. Big Z did some quality work for sure. Your faith was not misplaced.
The whole time i was thinking of what kind of beautiful sculptures you could make with that, but your words at the end really touched something in me.
Yes, as a gem cutter you trade in gems and to a degree have to set aside preference for factual value, but sometimes, rarely, a specimen can transcend its place in a business and remain firm in the palace of passion.
A rancher, for comparison, may see pleanty good heads of cattle pass to the slaughteryard, and be content that his work will produce fine beef, but every once in a while a calf can be born and grow into such a bull, the notion of letting it be anything other than a beautiful animal feels wrong, not because the steak wouldnt be the best, but because chance and nature rarely produces such a gift that even the most profit-driven cant deny the gratitude.
Truely a stone to be experienced
Absolutely dazzling! You could put that in a cabinet and each morning you could move it a little and it would feel and look like a new gem every day! 🙂👍✌🖖
Great idea!
What a gorgeous piece Justin
I'm so Glad you kept Dwayne in one piece! Not quite my idea of narrowing it down to its skeleton to make a quartz tree with opal fruit, but I think it's better this way. Feeling the weight and experiencing the magnitude of its size is better.
Have you considered a large light underneath it just to light it all up? As much LED light as you can pump into it without warming it up?
What a beautiful Opal specimen Dwayne The Rock is! I'm so glad your keeping it so close to natural as you can without destroying it! Build Black Opal Direct museum and display is with all your other beautiful Gems in your collection, so millions of people can see what Mother Earth has given you! Til next time take care and be safe...
I absolutely love they way you did this stone up! It’s fascinating and beautiful! What a wonder nature is! I love your videos! Keep up the good work!😊❤
Nice as a specimen mate!
Some good colour for Andamooka, l can see why he didn't carve into it for 60yrs, lve never seen any rough in quartz.
We had a big chunk of Boulder, great colour, but a lot of it was thin seam....so it was dads paperweight!
Was great to re visit this video ❤❤❤❤
I love opals like this! Amazing!❤
Did I miss the estimated value on this? So curious