The Hidden World of Subglacial Lakes
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2022
- The world is not out of mysterious frontiers yet. Hidden underneath the earth's poles lies the untouched ecosystem of subglacial lakes, an environment as mysterious as the bottom of the ocean or outer space.
Oh, by the way, that picture I use in this video of the inside of a subglacial lake is not actually a subglacial lake. Tricked Ya!
Wikipedia Articles for the topics if you want to learn more about them:
Subglacial lake: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subglac...
Lake Vostok: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vo...
Lake Whillans: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wh...
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www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/abs...
astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/an...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27833...
www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
icedrill.org/sites/default/fi...
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
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Note: All videos should presumably fall under fair use, as not only is a small fraction of the video used, but my video and the means I use these videos falls under education.
Bacterial Growth: • Bacteria Growth
Hydrothermal Vents: • Hydrothermal Vents: 20...
Peter Kropotkin was known for a great many things, least of all this! Do some research before saying things that are not true.
so sorry sir will try harder next time
@Mike Roy I can't tell if you are trolling haha :D
Real comment
R/wooosh
Hope you can overcome being mentally challenged Mike Roy.
“Kropotkin, a guy known for this and nothing else”. It’s a shame that so many people will miss this joke. I had no idea that he was a scientist other than one of the most important anarchists in history
I at least knew that he was into zoology and evolutionary biology but had no idea he theorized about subglacial lakes. Really interesting guy with a wide range.
Bread Santa gets more interesting the more you know about him
This is still the most surprising fact in this video
Kropotkin is shit and evangelion rebuild is good 🥱
he made me google him lol
Yeah, one time me and my older brother were fishing by a big glacier, and all of the sudden we go sucked under one. You won’t believe what was inside; this bald kid and a giant flying bison. He has a lot to learn, but I believe he can save the world
Huh
@@freshfufrostbolt962 avatar reference
underrated comment
Damn your lucky you didn’t get hurt bub
That's rough, buddy
Jokulhaups is also a Magic The Gathering card, originally from the set Ice Age. I've known the word for nearly 25 years, but never actually knew what it meant. So, thank you.
Honestly one of the best destruction spells that existed during the first 20 or so years of Magic. Not to mention the art was baller.
That card busted my balls in my edh table because my friend would place it in his Maelstrom Wander deck. Since cascade is a cast trigger, all of our board would be gone and there's a 8/5 staring me down.
Does that mean nezahal exists too?
Good to see other MTG players exist still
Was just thinking the same thing. Nasty card..
Peter Kropotkin was also a very popular proponent of Anarchism, that’s why he says “famous for this and nothing else”, Issa joke.
His Wikipedia article describes him as a "Russian anarchist, socialist, revolutionary, economist, sociologist, historian, zoologist, political scientist, human geographer, philosopher, and activist who advocated anarcho-communism. "
Fuckin' try-hard
Bread Santa 🍞🏴
@@DiMadHatter So true
@@DiMadHatter 21q
Que On Authority on Anarkiddies !!!
As an icelandic person, the word Jökulhlaup comes from us and it usually refers to when the sun or volcano underneath melts enough of the ice for it to cause a kind of explosive flood/avalanche that often decoys bridges and roads. It can sweep people up and drowns and cush them. I've never heard it refer to these glacial lakes like this exploding, I guess it's accurate but the image in my mind just doesn't fit- I'd like to see how it looks when it happens.
As a finn I instantly recognized icelandic languege. I also propably knew the word at some point since I have been in Iceland countless times (before pandemic) and also knew quite a bit about the land of ice and fire.
What you just described sounds like the ice worm on subnautica below zero. Crazy shit buddy.
Is mentioning your race necessary?
@@chwig7354 speaking for them, yea. I mean it wasn’t race they were speaking of, it was nationality. But in this context, letting it be known that you recognize the language would be better understood and elucidated by giving a reason as to why you recognize the language. Aka, their nationality. As an example on the opposite, I don’t recognize the language because I am strictly American. They do recognize it because they are Icelandic… again, that was nationality, not race. You can be any race within a nationality. And the Nordic languages are all somewhat similar because they originated from largely the same places. I myself understand some parts of those languages. Despite what I said in my example, I do understand some because I am 2nd generation Norwegian. My daily came here on a boat in the middle of last century. I understand Norwegian quite well and because of that, I can elucidate other Nordic based languages also. So yes. For context sake, they had to list their NATIONALITY.
@@chwig7354 may I ask why that offended you? I mean I think i understand. I am also tired of people, especially in America, but other western countries as well, constantly throwing out their race as some sort of credential to make a point. But that’s not what was going on in this thread.
Finding life in a sub-glacial lake is pretty strong evidence that life could exist under the surface of icy moons like Europa. It might even be more complex than single-celled organisms, as they'd presumably probably have access to energy from thermal activity as well.
Edit: Nvm! It was mentioned in the video!
Life already existed in Antarctica before the continent moved to the polls. Life merely adopted to the extreme environment where as the moon it would have had to evolve from scratch. Possible such an environment can harbor life but not provide the means to allow life to develop in the first place.
@@FrogInShorts it like and
@@FrogInShorts geothermal vents are were we'd expect life to develop, if it exist. There's like 50km of water at the least but most of that would be useless to life since there's no energy source under dozens of kms of ice and kms above the ocean floor and its nutrients.
@@FrogInShorts Very true, but it at least answers half the question. Life can only evolve somewhere that can support life. So if we've established that Europa probably can support life, then the only question is what are the preconditions to create life?
The PC game "Barotrauma" is based on this concept, it's pretty neat
this is the last video i thought Kropotkin would be mentioned in
Literally just finished reading a sci fi book that takes place on an extremely icy planet and didn't want it to be over, so this video came out at the perfect time for me. Thanks!
Book name please?
book name?
@@ezequielvargasb it's The Left Hand Of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin!
@@biggloop7015 thanks 👍
@@biggloop7015 Love the dispossessed. Think Left hand of darkness is placed in the same universe?
4000 meter sticks really helped me visualize the true depth of this ice. Thank you for this comparison
i'm not so interested in microscopic life forms since its not as easy for me to understand it. but to think that there is life, even in a unicelular level, under such harsh conditions and that they even have lived there over haundreds of years is truly amazing
Millions of years
Not hundreds of years millions. These are amazing time capsules, millions of years ago no light, no freely available oxygen, locked away in hundreds if not thousands of feet of ice. And here is the interesting part, we could be a threat to them, we would contaminate their world and likely harm it.
Question. How much of Ice loss would affect the liquid state of subglacial lakes? Will climate change be impactful enough to shave of the glacier that it'll decrease the pressure of it and froze the lakes over???
I would love to know aswell
This is a really good question! Also curious about the answer.
@Bingo i mean. If you're a marine lifeform then of course it is.
@Bingo Good for what?
@@westwarden5979 fishe
Wasn't expecting a Kropotkin reference in a video about glaciers. Rad
fuck yeah right?
The Conquest of Subglacial Lakes
5:43 “Fumes of the abyss” is such a cool and intimidating phrase
I love your videos so much. You actually manage to be informative and add humor in a way that's natural and not forced.
Could you do a video on the classification of dinosaurs and how it’s done? It’s a super interesting topic!
He should….
@Vini Yellow yeah
I'd love to see that !
Love it when Bread Papa Kropotkin gets a mention.
Loving the kropotkin drop
Hello fellow anarchist! 👋🙂
I liked this one a lot. More like this, please. Maybe Crater Lake in Oregon?
Crater Lake is a good one. It's crazy to think that such a gigantic lake was completely empty of wildlife until humans came around to introduce fish. Or that log that's been bobbing vertically for over a hundred years.
Kropotkin reveal made me actually yell “what!?” at my screen.
3:10 it sounds like the guy who named this phenomenon had it happen directly into his face while he was saying it.
Thank you, I certainly did enjoy it :D
(just found your channel yesterday, but already loving it a whole lot)
First time viewer, I really enjoyed this. Your presentation and balance of dry humor and informative content was very good.
I'm definitely interested in more.
only halfway through the vid, but I feel like in the oldest lakes, there would be a higher chance of having higher order life. Also, since the glacial lakes are essentially completely closed off to the outside world, wouldn't the organisms in each separate lake have evolved completely separately since they were separated? That would be an insane amount of bio diversity under the ice, and all adapted to such high pressures and such low temps. would these ecosystems basically completely collapse if the arctic was to melt enough that their shields were exposed?
Yeah, these organisms have evolved for a very specialized environment, in isolation of the rest of the biosphere for millions of years at this point. There might be a little exchange once and a while between lakes that are close to each other, but otherwise they are basically different worlds. The last part of the video explains a bit how they have different conditions that would lead to evolutionary divergence. As far as what would happen if the antarctic ice sheet collapse and these environments were exposed, they would probably get devastated in any other environment and may not have the defenses to survive against other microorganisms.
as ice melted off the surface the pressure of the lakes would decrease, causing them to re-freeze which would probably destroy all the bacteria and any trace of its existence :(
i only knew the anarchist side of kropotkin's history. glad to learn more
Incredible.
Thank you so much.
Please make follow ups on this topic ever also about Antarctica before ice.
"Peter Kropotkin: famous for this and nothing else" I think he wrote a book about baking too or something idk
Oh yeah, he did write a bread book, didn’t he?
This video was pretty awesome,and I definitely loved learning about Lakes
Please continue your wonderful work! I’ve found your channel earlier today and I’m binging it. As an enthusiast of science fiction with emphasis on speculative evolution, your channel offers insight that leads to some profound dot connections in my head 😀👍
Even though it was a bit different from your usual topics, it was just as good. I always look forward to your videos.
Loved this video just as much as i did enjoy the other ones! Great work as always!
This is fascinating. I love learning about extremophiles, especially ones that get their nutrients in atypical ways. And your point about the implications for life on other planets… I’m going to be thinking about this all day
Hey man, not only are you videos so educational and interestingly written, your voice is so soothing and helps me fall asleep at night and feel calm during the day. Please keep making these!
New favorite channel, great work dude
I appreciate the no-music presentation style. I find a lot of informative creators tend to use music that detracts from the main ideas of their presentation. Thank you for the informative format.
Brilliantly informative, and absolutely nailing the clever humor around the edges. First vid I’ve seen of yours - better believe I smashed that SUBSCRIBE button. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for putting this video together!
Always look forward to your videos they are well made, entertaining, and educational. Thanks
Thank you :D This was an awesome video! Gives so much perspective that no matter where on earth, life keeps on livin. We truly are blessed to be living in this time on this beautiful planet. Stay humble folks
Your channel is a gem. Thank you, TBM
Wanted to let u know that i really appreciate ur work.
Keep it up
Your videos have gotten really good lately man. Keep it up!! Really cool stuff.
i see Bread Santa, i click!
Old video, but I really wish there was something you could just talk about for an hour. Your fun way of teaching actual valuable information is really easy to watch and quite calming
This video is was amazing! You introduced me to something i had no clue existed!
Absolutely admired the upload! Underrated content!
Loved this video bro keep it up
Very cool topic. Thanks for shedding my some light on it!
Excellent video. Life is everywhere.
Life finds a way.
Fantastic, honestly never heard of you before but I subbed bc this video was so well done.
I just discovered your channel and I love it. Social scientist here but I am addicted to your content
Love your vids! My kids love watching your content with me!
I remember reading that Lake Vostok and other subglacial lakes might have hydrothermal vents, meaning they might be warm spots in those lakes.
Finding any form of life there is astonishing. Nice vid.
Another great video. Keep it up!
Great video, incredibly interesting topic. Thanks a lot!
I love these videos. I don’t know how i missed this, but i found it very fascinating.
this was super interesting! Great video
Peter Kropotkin is my Daddy and people should consider reading the book ,Kropotkin The Politics of Community by Brian Morris . Humans evolved to work together not dominate each other . Ok I think I’ve made my daddy proud.
I sense that you irl have daddy issues.
@@InkfinityOkamix3 just because my daddy is a renowned naturalist , and also a Russian prince , doesn’t mean u need to be jealous.
@@saturnhadeswright9170 alright, so you’re insane. Good to know
@@InkfinityOkamix3 and your boring
@@saturnhadeswright9170 it’s obvious you’re still a child. No reason to argue with you. Also it’s “you’re”
Great content on a pretty unknown topic, but if the lake, it´s de-pressurized and contaminated does that ruin a million years ecosystem?
Pretty much any outside bacteria getting into the system would be contamination, and when the lake is tapped it sends bacteria water flying up a 4km tunnel, i think damage is going to be done no matter what
Just wait until the bacteria contaminated by drill fuel evolve into motorheads
I appreciate your voice, it’s very relaxing
This was a fascinating topic!
You make some of the most entertaining videos. Very nice
Thanks, I hope you do more videos like this
Glad i subbed your videos are well worth it
Peter Kropotkin and the Conquest of Sub-glacial Lakes
I dig the collage-style graphics!
Loved it!!
Do devils hole, Nevada next if ya find it interesting. This was a good video
Great video !
You always pique my curiosity
Beautiful video my friend
I did enjoy it, you did a good job.
After seeing a ROV explore a subglacial Lake: I found out they are utterly facinating. As well as the surrounding arctic ocean ecosystems ended up being much more diverse and thriving with life that's adapted to that environment. Can't forget the thermal vents, cold seeps, white smokers, brine pools, black smokers.
This was so interesting!
Wow, great video!
Thank goodness's video got the attention it deserves saw this 3 weeks ago and it had like 10kviews for a week straight
Could you link music you used in this video?
It's really relaxing and I thought of studying to it
Finally. Good content
All I can think of is that X-Files episode with the parasite that was found deep under the ice. Good job! Love this channel
really enjoyed this vid even if it is a bit different its still neat info
This Kropotkin guy seems like a genius. I wonder what other subjects he has covered? /s
I was not expecting it to be this interesting and in-depth (badum-tsh).
Amazing! İf only we had studied them all...
cool video watched till the end would love to hear more tone and depth good stuff tho
Glaciers are so cool in general
Piotr Kropotkin! Before this, I knew him as Communist Charles Darwin, but that subglacial lake theory is geological 🔥.
Great videos!! What video editing software do you use?
Excellent video
a part of me is unsure whether we really should be trying to explore these places with the potential risk of harming entire ecosystems. It's like, we already made this mistake on the surface, so why do the same thing here? I think doing it in the first place is justified since we know what's down there now, so I don't see the need to do it again.
@QBE I mean yeah it could potentially be worthwhile, but for the example you stated, would good would a hypotheses of aliens really do for us, especially in a place that wouldn't be hospitable for humans? I don't really see much gain for humanity from that outside of answering a mystical hypothetical.
That’s where earths backups are stored. Who knows how many times our earth has provided life and something whipped it all away, but melted a 4km thick sheet of ice and released the bacteria that would evolve into a world like we have today. Hope that made sense
Very interesting point. Worth mentioning here is the theory stating that if humanity went near extinct and civilisation devolved, there would be no coming back because we have used up the sources of metals and other such resources that were accessible with primitive technology. That also means that after we are gone, any life form with the potential to evolve, and develop culture and technology may haplessly find itself on the wrong side of the Great Filter, evolutionarily sabotaged by us. This is blowing my mind as I think about it right now…
feel like i would be more inclined to eat methane and sulphur if that has happened before
No that's not right at all. During extinction events, the earth has been repopulated by small generalised feeders that have evolved to fit an open ecological niche, not bacteria.
Do you realise how long it takes single celled organisms to evolve into complex lifeforms? It hasn't happened "who knows how many times" it happened once, and everything else evolved from those first complex organisms. Your comment is so wildy inaccurate that i think you should delete it.
Cool subject!
Interesting :) thank you
I just came here to say I was here before your channel blew up
U didnt have to do Kropotkin dirty like that man
This is so interesting and I would want to learn more, but I think we should keep the pressurized environment untouched to keep whatever beauty it has
Your humor is on point. "or 4000 meter sticks" lmao
awesome video. lots of new information and a nice link summary to solar system moon explorarion. Who knows if there is no other life in the solar system we might be able to seed these world with these microbes.
A critique to the video: the music is only on my left ear for some reason, it's really annoying. Thank you for making this video, other than that little problem is a really good video as always
Please do more videos that inspire us to believe that there could be microscopic life out there in the cosmos!