The Doppler Radar for every golfer? Swing Caddie SC300 review.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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$20K vs $500 and get within 1-2% on distance is quite good. I have the SC300 and it is great for practice dialing in distances with each club to really help. They just added spin and they are constantly adding updates so the distance gaps and Spin rates will get narrowed in and refined. For me, it's a great tool. Well worth the money.
Very comprehensive and objective review. I actually bought the SC 300 couple of weeks ago and have used it couple of times already on the range. I use it also pre-tournament to check how my yardage is with different club on that day (in different conditions). I feel also that it does focus me on hitting specific shots which I would play on the course. It is helpful to figure out how you should launch the ball to get best distances - especially with woods. I take the numbers with a pinch of salt but it does give me a banchmark throughout the bag and I have good statistics which I can then work on and improve (swing speed, smash, ball speed). For me it is money well spend. 👍🏌️♂️
I just bought one of these used for $300. I'm excited to get out on the range and test it out!
Your swing with your 7 iron is a thing of beauty. Could watch all day
One of the things I would say about the spin rate, launch angle, and apex is that as long as the readings are consistent within the device for a given club, one can learn about how effective different swings are in generating relative measures of those data. Obviously, the absolute measures are important for carry and total distance; however, it appears those are pretty reliable when measured against TrackMan. I just bought the SC300 and am anxious to get to the range and on the course to try it.
Excellent review JT - I always found you talk more but honest; there isn’t a hard sell or agenda. As an avg golfer; pls keep the video honest as we buy based on your expertise. Good on you - I hope to get my SC300 now - thanks
I have been reading on the forums that those who have the sc300 agree in that the launch angles are higher than trackman.. however they were able to fix this by not opening the stand to it's fully open position thus helping to bring the launch angles down on the sc300. As the sc300 leverages the launch angles for it's distance calculation this could be throwing off the iron and wedge distance. Are you able to test this out and see if the numbers are more consistent between the 2 devices?
Even though some of the “one off” distances are quite peculiar, avg out those over 10 shots and the discrepancy between the two devices almost disappears . You should have given us the 5 shot avgs between the two devices. I think it would be within 1-2%.
Great Review. Looking at getting the SC300 so nice to know the issue's. I suppose we can't really expect it to be dead on with Trackman as there is €19500 difference
Great video - it seems the algorithms used are the main difference as the launch angles being off vs. close other distance. The good news is Sky Caddie can always update this with the firmware a la Trackman changing to match GCQuad for indoor calculations.
Picked one of these up for $250 USD thank you!
Thanks for the reply and I agree that it would not change by 10 degrees but you do not give a fair analyst of the SC300 unless you enter all appropriate numbers and I must say judging it against the trackman is not fair as well. One product is for your average golfer and the other for the pros.
In fact, the standard loft for the 7 iron in the SC300 is 30 deg. and my 7 iron has 32 deg. so the launch angle should have been lower than trackman?
Jonathan Taylor there’s loft and then there’s dynamic loft, or delivered loft of club at impact, which this device doesn’t calculate. Also doesn’t measure angle of attack. The most it can calculate is ball speed and then interpolates it all from the settings the user puts in as far as club loft.
Jonathan, thanks for the review. Probably the SC300 shows a little too high flight but I don't think your 154m 7-iron can be so low apex as the Trackman states. There the Trackman is off, 21 meters is super low. I would guess with your carry the Apex should be around 28-30 meters.
Would you be able to compare Trackman, SC300 and Garmin G80? Interested in the SC300 and G80 but unsure which would be best
I don't know this but it seems as if these devices are more accurate with players that can swing the club well.
Thanks Johnathan 👍 I bought a couple of sc200’s, sent them both back because they were so random! Seems like this is an improvement?!
Honest opinion can’t beat it good stuff
Great content as usual, would be a little on the expensive side for me but for the cost of a brand new modern day driver it has got a market out there. Have you reviewed or seen the PIQ Mobitee product previously? I got one of these myself in February as I was interested in the fact that it could be used at the driving range and was pleased with the launch angle function and swing speed etc. The only bit it didn't do was tell me how far each shot went where the SC 300 does. Hope to see more great content throughout the season.
Hi, no I have not tried that device but I was looking for an alternative to Trackman for distance control. Thanks for watching!
Thanks from germany for the honest review.
excellent video, just looking up some reviews because i've seen some ads for the SC300. Your review has me sold on the thing. One thing i'm curious about, though --- if the expensive Trackman tracks ball flight from beginning to end, but the SC300 just checks it at impact and shortly afterward, the level position of the device itself could be critical (perhaps this one was standing a degree or two "uphill" and that might make a difference?). Anyway, i loved your delivery and honesty and all the details you spoke of. I'm a new subscriber!
Great review, really helped me make a decision in purchasing this product thanks 😊👍🏾
I think consistency is more useful than absolute accuracy for mid to high hcp.....
Thanks for the review Jonathan. I've been waiting for someone to compare it to Trackman. There seems to be a noticeable improvement from the SC200 and it seems that the carry distance is a little more accurate than Flightscope Mevo too. Going to really consider a purchase today.
Very good review. Thanks for this quality wok. Very interesting. It would be interesting to have the opinion of the manufacturer on the identified differences. I guess also, it's better to analyze the information on a series of swings per club (10 shoots minimum). The comment of joseph (just below) is interesting /opening stand.
This is great. I had no idea John Malcovich was European, let alone a fantastic source of golf knowledge. :)
the gap between $30000 and $500 isn't on the display I'm sure but the 5 yards probably more than makes up for that?
Great review, thank you for this video! Really helped me in deciding to get it as well...
Hi did you purchase the sc 300 ???
I bought a sc200 first time out at the range it called a distance when I had a practice seeing hitting the mat. Put the gadget away and sent it back for a refund. I cant understand how this one is spot on one shot then miles out on another when comparing to the track man. Shame as I would definitely purchase one if it was within a small difference of tolerance to the track man. Enjoyed the honest video by the way. 👍🏻
Hi, even Trackman will miss a shot or give you a goofy reading from time to time. What the Swing caddie is trying to do is very demanding, especially when hitting from turf which often confuses the radar (flying debris). It is very good for the money and you can delete any shots from your stats that you know were bad reads.
I saw that when you entered the club you did not enter the loft of the club in the SC300. Would that cause some of the differences in some of the numbers. Trackman should always be the most accurate.
Maybe a little but not by 10 degrees.
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An excellent review, thank you!
Can you please do a review of the Mevo and compare to the SC300?
I am trying to get my hands on one:)
Jonathan Taylor Hi Jonathan. Most helpful review. Your work is first class! From my research a significantly cheaper option now appears to be the PRGR monitor (£199) You can tell I am from Scotland. To a higher handicapper this appears to offer the essentials-as well as giving club speed swinging without a ball. I saw one very favourable review of the PRGR by Mr Short Game on YT. Do you have any knowledge/experience of the PRGR which might help in my decision? Many thanks. Regards. Ian
I was looking at this, but it's almost $1000 (around $850 to $900) in Australia, and I'm just not sure it's worth the money for an amateur. There seem to be some fairly large discrepancies in data between the two machines here and I'm not sure how having any of this data would improve anyone's game in the first place, maybe aside from giving you some distances (some of the other numbers may be important as well, but didn't seem to be accurate enough to mention). I think I'd be better off dropping money on a swing analyzer of some description which would be a quarter of the price and give me data that would be more relevant to game improvement.
Thanks for the video. Do you ever do an actual tape or laser measurement to confirm both of these? I have a private range and I plan to have a friend stand out on the range and stand by each shot to compare with a laser measurement. It’s great to compare them with each other but even better to compare them with an actual measurement.
Hi jim, yes I used to do that all the time, but I found Trackman so accurate I stopped.
ive listened to 2 other reviewers that said sc200 was great but 30 was a let down.
But any how.. I enjoyed the review . good job 2 thumbs up
Hi Jonathan. Great review thank you. On the back of seeing this I have also subscribed to your channel. I’m extremely interested in the SC300 but can you tell me if it has a separate “swing speed mode” like the new SC200+ please? I am currently using the SuperSpeed sticks and need a launch monitor that can also detect swing speed without hitting a ball as well as being a launch monitor for when hitting balls. I’d appreciate your response if you have the time.
Thanks
Are they use the same technology? Dopper? It means you may not say one is more accurate than the other unless you measure it by radar..
Jonathan - where did you get the stand that the computer is on, brand? Would like one for my iPad.
I have no idea, I have had it for about 10 yrs :) sorry!
Excellent video. Good job!!!
how on earth is the SC300 getting the carry so close to Trackman when the launch angles are so off the mark?
SC200 main issue is that each iron will require a different distance from ball position. If I am hitting a 7 iron, the SC200 might be accurate 7 feet behind me but as my clubs getting shorter and shorter to wedges, I have to move my SC200 closer to my ball position than I have for my 7 iron. Does SC300 have the same issue like what I have mentioned?
I had no issues with the SC300.
Quick question mate. As you've tested both, If you had to chose between the two, (SC300 or g80) which would you go?
You have a better App for stats with the SC300 but the Garmin is more portable and has the GPS functionality.
@@JonathanTaylor63 would you say the g80 launch monitor is accurate as the SC300's?
Great review, and for that I'll subscribe. Keep up the detailed analysis.
All this thing measures is ball speed and interpolates all the other data from that relative to the user inputs. It’s not seeing strike, smash, aoa, launch angle, spin axis, etc, which is what will really tell you how you’re hitting and far more important than a made up distance.
Even Trackman is calculating some of the data that it is giving. In the end, we need accurate distance, club head speed and ball speed readings irrespective of how they get them.
Jonathan Taylor gc quad will be the best bet then as far as ball AND club data will go. Add a trackman with that for flight and you have it all. Just make sure you have 40,000$ to do it. 👹
Have you realised that you're crossing over the radar fields and that trackman's is stronger and affecting the SC?
What about "smash factor"?
but for 500 dollars it will give you a idea what you doing the swing speed an how high this seems like would be great for hitting into net at home on the range just hit at the flags you shoot with range finder
Value for money.
So can you confirm that the swing caddie has spin rate on the app? I’ve heard most say it doesn’t have spin rate
Yes, it has spin rate but only in the App. Unfortunately, I didn’t find it to be very accurate.
Does the sc300 have the same program that tells you what distance on each shot to hit at i love that for home hitting into a net to practice all the clubs in the bag
No but it had a comprehensive app with good statistics at the time of testing
I really enjoyed the video.
Do you have to hit a ball for sc300 to measure distance and head speed?
Yes
What software level did you have on the SC300?
Sorry I can't remember
Did range balls get used? Did that have an effect?
We did use range balls but that should not have an effect on the radar.
Jonathan Taylor I know that on the SC200 it recommends not using range balls. Unfamiliar with 300 specs but making me want to get one now.
A radar doesn't know what kind of ball you are hitting:) The SC200 just wasn't as good as the SC300.
Jonathan Taylor totally understand! Thanks for great video!
does the sc work hitting into a net
I have not tried it but if the net was more than 5m from your hitting position it should. I will give it a go and get back to you:)
Did you put in the loft of your irons in the SC300? That can affect distance, launch, etc.
Changing the lofts makes a bit of difference but does not solve the problem.
I seen same test within them 20,000 dollar system they not the same either
Very monotone. Thanks for the info
seems like it works ok on drivers but those numbers are pretty bad on the irons. 6 meters longer.. thats half a club and even that 3-5 mph on club speed are outside of helping determine whether swings adjustments are helping or hurting.
SC is not doing customers favors by having an algorithm that is that far off what the benchmark systems players will use from coaches or fitters. It comes across as ham fisted coding to me.
for $500 i will wait a another generation or two for reliably accurate rather than reliably wrong.
i think it’s great for the price, as an amateur golfer who wants to get an idea of their club gaps you can’t beat it, i’m not going to spend $18k for that. plus the track man is tacking the ball so it’s taking in the wind and sc300 is just monitoring it off the the first 50ish yards and calculating the distance which wind isn’t really a factor at low altitudes. you would just know that “ok my 7 iron is about 150 yards” then you make the right choice of club at the course. no average golfer is gonna consistently hit their clubs exactly the same, the consistency can be like +/- 10 yards so like 140-160 yards
I couldn't do it. 7 minutes before he took a single measurement. 11 minutes before the second. This guy likes to talk way to much instead of showing the product.
Perhaps some ADD medication is in order..
Doesn't give the data I would really benefit from: face angle, path, attack angle.
Sorry Bob, then you need a Trackman
So basically it's inaccurate as far as peak hight , spin rates and launch angel might as well save £400.00 and buy the sc 100 .....
Shameful on swing caddie.....
No, because it is accurate where it matters, Carry, Club Speed and Ball Speed. I have not tested the SC100 but the SC200 was not this good.
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I disagree have of the features don't work reliably spin rates were way off as was launch angles so why did they release a product that dosent work the way it is supposed to....
I understand, but I don’t think you understand how difficult it is to get these numbers. Just those three numbers/results are an amazing feat. Maybe, if they didn’t advertise the other results as if they were gold you wouldn’t be so disappointed. If you need those to be accurate it costs 20000 Euro. As I said in the video, you pay your money and make your choice:)
SC300 gives you more accurate numbers especially on short irons compared to SC200. Also you get the app which is money if you want to track your numbers.
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I'm not saying it's easy to make a launch monitor that is as accurate as GCQUAD OR TRACKMAN for the price they are selling the SC300...
But if they claim it does something then it should do exactly that or simply don't claim it because that is false and misleading the consumer.
DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE! It's a $550 item, and if the screen cracks - THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT. They said I should buy another one. Really Swing Caddie? I think I'll be looking for a competItor's equivalent.