Homo floresiensis: The Ancient Hobbit People
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Homo floresiensis is one of the most mysterious human species ever discovered. Their extremely small size and unique mix of characteristics have perplexed scientists for decades. Today we'll be exploring them -- answering the questions: "where did they come from?", "how did they get so small?", and "are they possibly still alive?". I hope you enjoy!
A huge thanks to Gian for the fantastic editing!
Fauna surrounding Homo floresiensis: onlinelibrary....
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I was kinda sad when I found out there is not a SINGLE dinosaur in my home country (Indonesia) (the whole country is very young (geographically) and volcanic so when dinosaur roam the earth, our country is still underwater), but it balances out when I realized we have Homo floresiensis and Komodo dragon
Technically, birds are dinosaur, and we have a lot of those in Indonesia 😂
@@paryudisaditya8845 yes but I want scary bird, not just normal bird 😂
I feel you my brother/sister as a Filipino we also don't have dinosaurs as our country were also submerged underwater. We only have crocodiles!!
Brother, try doing paleontological exploration and excavation on Papua
That island was once part of Australia though
We still have a chance!
@@ekosubandie2094 gotta be very hard because it's a jungle and hilly (there isn't a big navigable river, unlike Amazon)
I still remember when they first announced this find around 2003. The timing was impeccable-right around the peak of the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy. I honestly thought it was fake announcement. I’m still amazed by it and hope we find out a lot more about these little guys.
yes fancy that how convenient if you were looking to cash in on government and civil grants for your pet thesis topic.
@@markiobook8639 What?
@@starstorm1267Creationist?
@@markiobook8639the dude who discovered it wasnt even american
@@peridotgaming5894 and neither was the director of Lord of the Rings lmfao
Could you imagine the chaos that finding another living human species would cause?
Unfortunately we don't really have to imagine. There are still a lot of very racist shitheads around that believe those of another ethnicity are a different human species.
It would definitely test some societal norms and beliefs, especially if they would like these ones were smart enough to butcher animals but were probably less intelligent than we are, like are they animals or do they under the fundamental rights of man?
@@th3phoenix ya it would probably force the un to officially define what is a “human” it would be really interesting because I’ve always wondered, if we share 90% of our dna with primates, does keeping them in zoos count as slavery and false imprisonment.
they'll never find me. I'm a master of disguise! fear not, fellow hominids, your fragile homo sap. sensibilities are safe!
@@Danheron2 Ever since I learned how closely related we are to the other great apes, it's felt very wrong to see them in zoos. Zoos in general just shouldn't exist.
i am so here for this wave of Gen z historians/archaeologists that are starting up channels. Really putting my old professors talking about outreach to shame. there is still alot of work to do but stefan milo, minute man and you are really at the head of this field.
Don’t forget Gutstick Gibbon and Forrest Valkai! They are amazing too and do videos mostly on debunking and anthropology and biology!
@@DeepOctopushad Forrest but not Gibbon. Really cool stuff Tks for the tip.
Lindsay isn't even gen z
@@incarnateflame3462she is though. She’s born in 97 which is the first year of gen z
@@lifealert2716 98 was
Either way gray area
She acts like a late millennial or very early gen z like me and my friends
I'm sorry, I can't get past the fact that these people had to deal with birds that were TWICE THEIR SIZE.
Also, that was a really cool video. Can't wait for more hominid videos! And thank you sm for sharing the link of the paper, it is very interesting.
A 6ft bird makes me shit bricks at my height (5'10) too.
Granted they cant fly
Ancient human species have always fascinated me, especially having grown up in the Deep South where evolution is highly debated
It's a shame tbh. Humans are absolutely fascinating, more fascinating knowing that this happened without rhyme, or reason. Just by random chance.
You gotta wonder why, if god's creations were perfect, why they wouldn't have been able to change with their environment. That seems very advantageous, or a clever method of creation.
I'm from KY, and even here the average person still thinks evolution means a crocoduck should just happen randomly. It's pretty depressing.
I live in Georgia. Not only do many not believe in evolution, they are proof that those same many are incapable of evolving in any way beyond adapting the newest conspiracy theory to reinforce their willful ignorance.
@@jameshall1300in all fairness, a crocoduck would be a kickass animal.
Not only educational, this hobbit video was more entertaining than the Hobbit movie trilogy. Always a good day when Lindsay uploads.
Take it back!😭
But I don’t think it’s more entertaining than putting super strong units against a bunch of halflings or hobbits as I like to call them and watching them get slaughtered when I am playing tabs
Siiiimp 😂
Ugh. Don’t remind me of how they wrecked the Hobbit “trilogy” 😢
Savage!
Imagine if they built their own lil society on the island and started riding their own domestic small elephants and massive storks. That honestly would have been cool if they lasted that long, I hope we find out more about them
man someone should make a movie about that, just for the image of a bunch of little dudes riding little elephants
They have their own small government with small currency and small taxes
Oh fuck... I'm into writing and I already have quite a couple of ideas that I may never be able to finish but this... this has way too much potential. I can see myself spending a tonn of time with collecting as much information about these lil guys as I can, and then write a realistic and yet bit fantasylike story, played on those islands. I can see those hobbits riding mini elephants, giant lizards and maybe even those storks to war against each other. It must happen.
I hear the Skyward Sword flight music in my head when I imagine _Homo floresiensis_ riding giant storks.
@@hungariangiraffe6361let us know when it's done bro
I think it’s possible the hobbit people had a brief crossover with homosapiens before going extinct, enough for the locals to pass down stories of hobbit people in legends. Now in the modern age, the locals attribute random events to these mysterious hobbit people, which is why the events sound more recent.
They were probably used as ancient sex dolls.
agreed! other cultures have passed down stories of other extinct species (thinking specifically of aboriginal groups in australia), so i think this is a possibility for sure
the story of the giant furred monster from the south American natives (which descriptions resembled megatherium) really shows that it might be possible
@@zane6817it is quite possible that Aboriginal or other indiginous modern humans contributed to their extinction
That could very well be the case, however,; this world is a very strange place. I wouldn't be so dismissive of the recent reports or the locals. But that is just the anthropologist in me. :)
Fun fact: Chimpanzee brain sizes average around 400cm3 compared the Floresiensis' 417cm3. These people basically achieved what we couldn’t and returned to monke.
You should check Homo naledi
They basically went one step further and regressed into arboreal ape-men not too dissimiliar to chimps
Small bran doesn't necessarily mean more primitive. You probably never heard of brain-to-body weight ratio
Hominids have significantly greater gyrification (brain folds) than other primates, allowing a denser concentration of neurons, so size isn’t the best indicator for cognitive capacity.
Humans are monkeys. I’m sick of people thinking we’re too pretty or brilliant to be excluded. Apes are all just old world monkeys as well.
@@ВадимВадимович-ь6т intelligence is usually measured by neurons. The more neurons, the more connections. The more connections, the more dynamic a creature can think.
Love the way Lindsay talks about the things she loves to talk about. Energetic, vibrant and totally on point, a pleasure to watch.
My life has been a complete and total misery ever since Bigfoot stole my precious girlfriend in the middle of the night. 😒 He even took all her clothes and the T.V. 😔
It's weird (not in a bad way). Listening to her feels like listening to Miniminuteman, just in female :D
Just wish she could put more than one sentence together in a single cut. So choppy…
It’s like a rollercoaster ride of awesome information
She and Milo remind me of Hank and John Green's Mental Floss videos, v2.0.
Hasn't it already been seen and proven that animals with small brains are still smarter than expected? The size capacity may have been smaller because it just shed the dead space we currently have today. Either way island evolutions are always interesting because they always end up being their own isolated mini Jurassic Parks.
Relative brain size is a better predictor for intelligence than absolute brain size as well. Maybe instead of getting bigger brains, the rest of these fellas shrunk instead.
Contrary to popular belief, humans use 100% of their brains. There is no "dead space" (for most of us at least).
we don't have any 'dead space'.
Einsteins brain was smaller than average.
Yes, what defines brain capacity isn't total size, but the proportion of each part of the brain in relation to its functions in the body.
If no one is quite sure how they went extinct, has anyone considered that the storks may've taken them to Isengard? In all seriousness though, I really hope they find more remains in the future since it'd be cool to know more about these little guys.
Tbh the giant storks probably ate them. Giant seagulls would be HORRIFYING!
@@jonathanfairchild After seeing a Seagull try and almost Succeed at eating a dog. Yeah, they are terrifing as they are, giant would be the stuff of nightmares
I have to admit that when hearing that they went extinct, I immediately suspected ... Sauron!
That first face at 0:13 looked like Don Cheadle.
Spot on 😂
Dude! Yup.
very cool of Lindsay to tell us about her people finally
LUL wat
@@davidbaigorria5847 its a joke about short people i think
As a short person-
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY BASEBALL BAT
Well the fact that people(modern human) who live around that cave also got a small body (130-150cm) kinda interesting😂
@@kathypince515 Probably too high up to see. I say that as a fellow shorty.
I once saw a documentary about the Hobbit people. One of the inhabitants of Flores told a legend about his ancestors who, as the legend says, had a war against the small people who were a lot of a nuisance. They hunted them down into a cave (a different one to the one the fossils were found in) and lit a bunch of fires outside to poison them with smoke.
Which, as the man said, worked pretty well and killed all of the small people.
Greetings from Germany.
Rubbish- Flores people have no idea who these are. The Flores people were likely killing the Rampasasa pygmies endemic to Flores - who live in the village of Wae Ril and have since been reported as claiming Homo floresiensis as their ancestor and as "cashing in on hobbit craze". A genetic study published in 2018 discounted the possibility of the Rampasasa descending from H. floresiensis, concluding that "multiple independent instances of hominin insular dwarfism occurred on Flores"
Do you remember who made the documentary or what it was called? (If it's in German, dass ist auch okay.)
Greetings also from Germany :)
@@serenityphawx
It has been some years. I really don't know.
it was aired at natgeo indonesia around 2010. but i cant remember the exact video title. something like "manusia kerdil dari flores" (english: dwarf human from flores)
Danke Deutsche aus Indonesien, Ich Liebe dich Deutschland
I do not care what it takes Lindsay And Forrest Valkia need to do a full length evolution series. Love the energy and enthusiasm.
I'd love to see that. They'd probably feed off each other's energy in a neverending positive feedback loop and eventually detonate in a nuclear explosion.
Check out Gutsick Gibbon, too! You're missing out on a lot of great content! She actually already does a lot of long form evolution videos. She even has a little series about ape evolution. She and Forrest already do quite a bit together, too. She is working on her PhD. in BioAnth, and I believe that is also what Forrest is doing? Maybe I'm wrong about what he is doing right now. She has more of a focus on primatology and paleoanthropology, whereas Forrest has more of a general everything focus.
thanks for the info on 2 more folks for me to follow
@@TheMilkMan8008 I love Ericas energy too. The three of them together would be a six hour piece!
@@JohnFleshman 6 hours? More like 12. Have you seen her and Forrests stuff together? Haha they have 6 hour episodes on The Line together. Add in a third with their personality and it doubles again
“Evolution has no goal” thank you so much for that. It drives me nuts that people think that evolution is some linear step ladder that we just move up.
"Why haven't chimps evolved into humans yet?"🙄
Exactly!
The best science presenter on the internet for the simple honesty of phrases like "That they knew of" , "That we know so far", and "As far as we know".
That's true science. Human history is a long story of us discovering what we're wrong about, it is the ultimate hubris to believe what we "know" today will not be rendered obsolete by what we learn tommorrow.
Oh, and the hat. My fiancee loves the hat.
12:25 I like to think that probably almost every "mythological creature" is just some random, normal animal that gets described in a weird way for others who didn't see it. For example, I'm not surprised if we found out that back in time someone got a little bit high and saw a white peacock, and this is where biblically accurate angels come from.
'little bit'=='used magic mushrooms as a meal'; read Revelations. :P
@@thekaxmaxor they got high off spoiled food with mold spores
@@Monasaurus_Rex Where Revelations was written, magic sushies are endemic. Far more likely unspoiled food with magic mushies in.
There is also this theory that the origin of Cyclops myth is that ancient Greeks found elephant skeletons (that have a big hole in the middle for the trunk) and interpreted it to be a huge monster.
This could also explain centaurs for example, although I think the Greeks were a little more smart than this
@@guilhermefonseca1562 IIRC Lindsay covers this
Please give us more of this kind of videos. I've never been more interested of learning about (prehitoric) world in general or especially about our ancestors ❤
You would probably enjoy PBS Eons if you like paleontology
Agreed!
Hey! If you like this stuff definitely check out Stefan Milo, he's has an awesome yt channel all about early hominins
Lindsay, you have got to be so much fun to hang with! The way you give out some deep educational info with humor and down to earth vibe is so refreshing! Thanks so much for doing the research for us and posting these awesome videos! Your so incredibly intelligent and so much fun to watch! Keep it going girl! ❤
I remember hearing legends about locals breeding with a race of very small people, thus explaining the fact that said locals are also diminutive in stature.
Also, more fossiles have been found on the island, in Mata Menge, dating from 700 000 years. Much older than the 100 000 year old age of those of Liang Bua.
Just found your channel out via youtube recommendations, and started watching a video from 7 months ago. I'm very pleased to know that the videos seem to have kept the same quality, vibe, and awesomeness. Congrats on the channel, glad to know it's thriving
There were researchers from the university in my hometown on the team that discovered these, and I was in high school at the time so my science class got to go and see the early evidence, reports, and plaster casts of the bones. It was really fascinating and, to be frank, the only thing of note that anyone from that third rate institution has ever done.
rubbish. There is only one specimen held by Indonesian anthropologists who never allowed these be cast after outrageous claims were levelled against them
@@markiobook8639 You can google "University of New England hobbits" if you don't believe me.
@@markiobook8639dude, who are you? and why do you have beef with the hobbits?
I have a problem with fake science. @@lararys7765
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For a cool example of the island rule look at the entire pre-historic history of New Zealand. 6ft Penguins, 12ft tall bird monsters, LOTR sized eagles. Most interesting, it seems like birds of paradise evolved there.
Loved it! I've read all this information before, but you put it all together in a nice, accessible, easy to digest package. I think you're a fantastic science communicator!
0:40 love that whipping hand motion Everytime 😂
I specifically remember learning about the hominid species in anthropology classes. Literally the most fascinating shit you'll ever hear in a classroom, love the videos keep em coming!! 👍
Me learning about evolution feels like I just woke up to a world I know nothing about and I have missed so much. It absolutely amazes the hell out of me also love ya Lindsay I learn so much and I think you're the best on youtube for this sort of information that we know of.
I think it's awesome how much your channel is growing
Can you do more videos on random island ecosystems? I never really thought about them before beyond some of the weird stuff in Australia. But these kind of videos are dope, and you illustrate it in an easy to understand kind of way. So yeah, this was neat.
Darwin’s finches on Galapagos Island. Interesting reading.
The way she stresses random words is hilarious to me.
It would be absolutely insane if we found modern remains of H. floresiensis and discovered the last ones died out within the last 100 years or so. Like, if some pilot or sailor in WWII had just washed up on a different beach, how would we have handled first contact with another species of human for the first time in recorded history?
Shout out to the liliputions
This hit the scientific journals the year I returned to college for my Anthropology degree. That and a few other big discoveries made those years exciting. We had such great discussions.
This was awesome! So pleased to find you're doing longer videos on RUclips. I am gonna learn SOOOOO much
Considering the myth of Bigfoot is still alive I also tend to go with their modern existence being a myth but that modern human populations absolutely interacted with floresiensis and thus passed down that experience.
i wish they were still around, it would be so interesting to have another species around of something like humans, which a lot of people wont even call animals much less their own species
"that we know of" is SO POWERFUL. I absolutely love your videos and am so hyped for you to talk moer about human evolution!
I already loved learning about evolution but Lindsay makes learning so much fun, I also love the way she speaks, it’s so fun
I get called a Hobbit because I'm so short. I always respond with "I don't have big hairy feet".
That we know of
@@stevetheveteran my niece is 11 and I get her old shoes.
Homo floresiensis still exist among us: they're bald, quick to anger, and like to drive sports cars
The story I've heard told is the Homo Sapiens tolerated the Hobbit people (they called them a name that translates to "gluttonous granny") until the Hobbits stole some children.
The Homo Sapiens tracked the Hobbits to a cave where they were said to live, filled up the entrance with flammable stuff and set the entrance on fire.
I first found your videos thanks to Casuak Geographic and I'm so thankful I did! I appreciate you taking things slowly and explaining certain pieces of evolution and subjects not everyone understands is so interesting and considerate! I also really appreciate you're willingness to share your tattoos, it's so exciting and the enthusiasm is contagious and delightful! Thank you for making your way onto RUclips and doing longer form videos, these are amazing!
This was a great video! I have heard of these people but had no real understanding of their history and was totally enthralled. Thanks.
0:12 I like how they made the sculpture looking up to express that they were shorties.
Fun fact, originally one of the suggested names was "floresianus" before it was pointed out that that translates to "flowery anus", so a different name was chosen.
lul tf
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Love your stuff, young lady. Wish I'd had teachers like you way back when. Keep up the good work as long as it makes you happy.
Lindsey, you are cool AF! Love that you are bringing a new audience to learn about the natural world throughout history 🥰
"Absolutely, fuckin, sick ass cave"
Had me dying.
Random af but I would love to see you talk about rats and their history. That giant rat you talked about piqued my interest lol
I JUST SAW THERES A VIDEO ON RAT KINGS
@@amandanorton6508
Just hearing her say RAT!!
Is entertaining.
I think its important to understand cranial capacity is also relative to size when observing knowledge. I am aware that's not always the case but it would be interesting to know the brain to body ratio of the Homo Floresiensis.
And organisation! Super important, these guys had large frontal lobes, and a structure similar to H. erectus (not surprisingly). Very capable, made tools, and were successful on the island for almost 150,000 years.
Well… they had 400cc brain in 3ft body, modern humans have 1400cc brain in 5-6ft body.
Yaay! I'm so excited you did this! Been fascinated w/them ever since the 1 Phys Anthro class I took. Also my grandparents were from Indonesia so I'm invested anytime it's involved, 😅.
I don't think H. Floresiensis could afford giving up much intelligence because their environment wasn't exactly free of formidable predators. You mentioned the Komodo dragon which definitely is no slouch.
We also see animals with small brains which definitely are more intelligent than one would expect, take for example rats or, in the bird world, crows.
50K years seems *SO* RECENT
8:14 it's somehow really heart-warming to think of pigmy elephants with pigmy hominids
Mom can we have hobbits at home?
We have hobbits at home!
Hobbits at home: Homo floriensis
I absolutly love your content and it's absolutly awesome
There are also the halflings from tabs which are half the size of a normal unit
Thanks for giving me new stuff to learn every once in while.
I really enjoy and look forward to it 😊❤
I just stumbled upon this video out of nowhere, but I'm a student of Anthropology, and you, my sister in academia, are my own gold mine
You have a great delivery, its actually fun to listen and learn...thanks for being so damn entertaining!!
I just wanted you to know that I normally hate biology but if I had you as a teacher in high school maybe I would’ve because I did find it interesting and you make me feel interested again
I'm roughly 5'2 and some friends used to call me hobbit. I always knew I was a dwarf and not a hobbit tho 😌
If you want to do more on human evolution in the future, you might consider doing a collab with Gutsick Gibbon. That would be super awesome.
Seconding this!
Thirding this!
Absolutely fantastic! The way you break it all down is just awesome! Big thanks! 😊
I've binge everything on this channel. I need more
Oh, it's finished already... another great video, thank you. I'm in Australia, and it was fairly big news when this discovery was released. Wasn't there some fight with an Indonesian anthropologist over access to the site and finds that delayed research for a year or more?
I wonder if the legends are based off people finding bones?
I dont remember exactly but in SriLanka in 2019(I think) there were lot of rumors about small humans. They were called "Nittawo" (Some of my spellings might be wrong😅)
The little hobbit people whose type specimen's face looked like Don Cheadle's. Fascinating.
now that was fun, very informative in a easy and a fun way to deliver such a subject thx loving your style
Whered they find an actual hobbit to host the hobbit video?
touché
@LindsayNikole sorry for the roast 😂
That was mean
Love learning about other humans, would love more!
So you're telling me that Hobbits once lived beside giant birds, dragons & elephant-like animals?
Well shit, all we need is fossil evidence of humanoids with pointed ears that crafted arrows & we could justifiably rename that island Middle Earth
Under 20 minute videos with nicely edited and compiled information about a topic you actually find interesting at that moment is such a more effective way to learn that the mandates we have, like school
Speaking of “evolving backwards” can you maybe do a video talking about why certain birds have evolved into flightless birds that still have wings? Also how do we know that the dodo bird couldn’t fly???
Love your enthusiastic ‘punchy’ presentation style. More ‘bitch-slap’ the info into you than the traditional David Attenborough approach but the knowledge is still there just with different wrapping. The little bounces coupled with the hat is so cute...Can’t wait for your next video and I wish you well little one...
Lindsay, that was a lot of words to tell us about your family.
T H E Y ' R E T A K I N G T H E H O B B I T S T O I S E N G A R D
H. floresiensis from Liang Bua is estimated at 100 kya. However, new in situ specimens from a different site in the island places H. floresiensis as old as 1.25 Mya to 700 kya. There's quite a lot of discussions still but you were able to covered quite a lot of the interesting bits :)
Excellent video
Keep up the good work
Cédric
Islands are always very vulnerable to foreign diseases. I wonder if they ever did interact with homo sapiens, I bet it's possible disease could have wiped them out, especially after being isolated for so long.
*OF COURSE THEY ARE STILL ALIVE* doing RUclips videos on animals...
Heyyyyyyy😂
Your presentation style is intoxicatingly good
I'm sorry I didn't drop in to see your channel until now, having seen the cameo you did on casual geographic's deep sea video (which was awesome), so yeah, defo subscribed! I had no idea you had a whole history of the earth playlist! I love paleo documentaries and early humans, etc. Great vid!
Is there somewhere I can access your videos with censorship of swear words? I'm a biology teacher and would love to show some of your videos in class... But I also don't wanna get fired.
Yet they allow books about gay sex in schools...what a sick world...
Download the video and edit it
@@fisrtnamelastname3083that is a lot of work to add on a teachers already massive amount of work
Just show the video you’ll be cool for ones
Ancient racism musta been crazy
13:30 *I want to believe*
Where have you been all this time!!?? This is your first video I’ve watched, and I immediately subscribed. I’d totally have a beer (or two, or 10) with you. Awesome video.
Crazy suggestion here: get a trilobite as a decor article for the background,would be really cool. Also, the “how humans evolved” series would be a sick too.
Your work is truly amazing and I find your videos really interesting,keep up.Sending love ❤
Ever heard of the guy who dipped his balls in glitter, 1:11
😶 . . . 💀
HAH! Nice…. Hahaha dat’s nice…..
As a modern hobbit (4’7”) I appreciate learning about my people. Thanks, LN! 🙃
why am i so hooked on her deadpan lightly annoyed super casual descriptions?!
This was so fascinating, really glad I saw your video! Im so curious what this species exact life span was? and how small their newborns/infants must have been!?
I dig the science is rad energy. I think a lot of young people need to hear more science communicators with a voice like yours. Thanks for the awesome video.
I took a biological anthropology class in college and we studied all the different “human” evolutionary branches and its so incredibly fascinating
This presentation was just f good ! 😅
Homo Naledi have similar features: smaller brain, bigger feet for climbing trees, longer arms, ecc.
Thank you! I discovered your channel by happy coincidence this morning. I greatly enjoy your delivery, cadence, and style. The content I have watched thus far assures me that I will be watching many of your videos. Don't change a thing, especially if your products are satisfying to you as well. (I still dream to work with Big Cats and predators, but I have not pursued... yet!) Honestly, two thumbs up! Cannot wait to soak in more info. Thank you, Sincerely!
The idea that a bunch of hobbits lived on an island, fighting mythical sized birds, is immeasurably entertaining
This is my favorite RUclips channel. I love your content and delivery of the content