Mr. Bischoff I watched the whole series and cant help but to smurk and think Eric won the war 🙏❤️ you live a peaceful life with no disgrace and gave some of us 90's babies the best memories of our lives.
It was the corporate Turner shit that lost the war when they wanted Eric to tone shit down that was the reason they were hot and with WWF being independent owned they took what WCW was doing and took it to the limit. There's no WWE attitude era and no WWE nowadays without Eric running the world with NWO.
@@88smjls don’t hate on another fan being grateful to Eric for that Monday Nitro era. They’ll never be another era like it. Trust me. In college dorms right now w/Wwebeing red hot, they do not have a college football team, basketball team, baseball team, girls dance team, and cheerleading team, ALL watching pro wrestling and clicking back-and-forth with kegs in the suite and making a weekly party of it! That is what Monday Nitro brought to Pro wrestling on a main stream format that will never be seen again. That example I gave was waz my college basketball experience at Monmouth University both my freshman and sophomore season.
This is easily my favorite episode of 83 weeks, which is really saying something because I watch every episode! This is the perfect marriage of the one person that was covering wrestling on the Internet, that was always a very good faith actor and would not report things without at least 3 to 4 sources before going to print unlike you know who. Love that you guys had Wade Keller on!!!
That was the allure. He had a real name, we knew who his parents were, who his sister was, his brothers, his in laws & us WWF Magazine readers knew who his son Dallas was, since he had his own column in there. He wasn’t from “Parts Unknown” & didn’t have an occupational gimmick. Bret was & still is real!
I know fans like to over, romanticize about Brett to him and Hart, nowadays, but as a kid, I thought he was corny as hell! He had no character development, and personally, I did not think he can kick somebody’s ass in a real fight. And as a kid, the last thing I was looking for in a prowrestler was their “work rate” or technical ability, LMFAO! 😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️I love how fans nowadays try to pretend they gave a shit about work rate when they were seven or eight years old.
Bret didn't need to be over charismatic. It was his gimmick. he was a Hitman. quiet, glasses, take you out with a sharpshooter. I think a lot of ppl missed that. His true gimmick was his work. he was the excellence of execution, he got the job done. Bret did the best he could, which is fairly close to the best there can be. Lex.... I'm 42, watching it live at the time, I was sold. He was Hogan 2.0 but, the WWF needed a hero, so I'm just glad we didn't get G.I. Joe Scott Hall extra jacked jumping off that chopper. Did it really make sense when he just a Narcissist? no but, even then I knew it was wrestling.
@@spiritdeezy9668 Bret doesn’t get the credit he deserves for carry that company through some pretty rough times when viewership was down. Bret also doesn’t get the recognition for being one of the few wrestlers in history in the WWF who got over purely based on his work in the ring. Anyone who says Bret didn’t have charisma is sadly mistaken. It’s a different type of charisma… not the loud, flamboyant charisma of a Ric Flair or Shawn Michaels.
To put him on the same level as Hulk Hogan though? Yes he did need to be charismatic. Only smart wrestling fans were Brett hitman Hart fans when he was at his peak. He did not translate to casual fans nor casual kids watching once in a blue moon. I was a smart fan, and I was not a fan of his because I grew up wanting the guys that were humongously muscular like Hulk Hogan ultimate warrior Carrie Von Eric and in the early 80s, giants like big John stud and Andre the giant.
Eric is absolutely 💯 right about the reason for the doc & the timing. I asked the same thing with them investing in RAW & it's why they're telling it. To distance themselves. That was then...this is now.
This was a great episode, well done team. You should have Wade on more often! It made for a highly interesting discussion, looking at things from different angles. And it helps that Wade actually applies himself to his profession, without working on pure assumptions ‘from insiders’, and really knows his field well. Really enjoyed this one.
Guy was a great wrestler but not no goat at all. Also my god Bret is pure egomaniac still to this day whining crying about anything that didn't go his way.
@@meanguy111that means you didn't grow up watching Bret. He definitely had the charisma he needed to have and he is still to this day the best heel of the 90s minus Mr. McMahon
I don’t get the “Bret Hart didn’t have enough charisma to be the top guy unless it’s transitional” take. He was one of my favorite wrestlers as a young teen/pre teen that liked NWA style wrestling better but liked WWF.
@@Director2024 he was pretty big. Big enough for endorsements and tv commercials. Not sure what else he was missing. Plus, he was gigantic in Europe and of course Canada. And mic skills, he went back and forth with Michaels for years and doesn’t get credit for that, and that was mostly spontaneous promos.
@@81ghale I find it funny that most of the people in the business who talk trash about Bret, didn’t nearly have HALF the career he did… seems to me a bunch of jealous and insecure jerks.
@@81ghaleI liked Bret too but he really wasn’t big enough as a Hulk or Austin. He was closer to a face version of HHH, he could have great matches with the top stars but didn’t have the attitude for the attitude era that was approaching. A top guy, but not THE guy.
The reason Eric should be proud of those 83 weeks because those werent the first 83 weeks of Nitro. They really had to work to build the company to the point they could compete with and even overtake the WWF for a whole year. Even if they didnt win the war the fact that they were able to win any battles at all is an incredible fucking achievement.
I met Lex Luger at WrestleCon this year I said hello a few times and got a photo op but he did not interact with me it was actually a let down I can see what Eric says about Lex now.
Why are there 3 people in this? I ONLY care about what Eric has to say. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time. Had to shut this off. Not enough Eric. I'm just gonna skip other future videos with several people in them. Its bad enough having to hear Conrad let alone random people.
I really enjoyed this episode. Having Wade on was great, and getting to hear both he and Eric's side on something and they are respectable to each other about it.
@@MarioLabot Herd was simply the friend of Jack Petrick, he was the one that put Herd in charge. Really, I was surprised Vince had such an issue with Bret taking WWF title to Nitro when legally he couldnt. Vince should have known this from when Flair brought big gold to WWF in 1991.
Considering what we have since learned about Vince McMahon, Bret is even more of a hero for knocking him out. He never gave Bret a 'free shot', he simply got his ass beat.
I was scrolling through the tv guide and stumbled across aew rampage, there might have been 200 fans left in the arena for the main event..which was in a side by side view with commercials for about 5 solid minutes
Taker is the only human being that knew Vince personally, that’d ever even think about jumping in front of a 🔫 to protect Vince. Everyone else that ever worked for Vince, or that’s in his family..would literally jump away from Vince and harms way..and ask Vince ….”omg..are you ok, Vince?”
Bret had every right to explore his career options in 1992, much like anyone else in another career. As far as Montreal goes, apply the situation to your own career and life. I agree that Bret ultimately got out of losing the belt by being screwed, but you're taking the human element out of the whole thing. It wasn't a storyline, it was a real situation.
I’m rooting for Shane McMahon to be successful and to compete with WWE if that’s what he chooses to do. He seems like he’s a great son..and all he wanted was his father to be proud of him..like how how Vince wanted his father to be proud of him..and to get that love. ..and it’s wonderful to see that he did..just like Vince got from his father at the end. It took so much to get it though..for both Vince & Shane. I feel Vince was hard on Shane like his father was hard on him..for better or worse..that’s what made Vince become ultra driven and successful. I feel he wanted that for Shane..but he wasn’t going to give him the company in the end..because Stephanie was more like him. But i feel in my heart of hearts, if Shane had his own promotion..or joined another one..he could compete with WWE..because he’s a good man..and..he’s a McMahon. Don’t underestimate him
Really enjoyed Wade being on. Unlike Dave, he doesn't state as fact things that he simply heard from others. Came across as a nice guy and I thought he added a lot to the discussion.
Wade Keller is no better than Dave Meltzer... They are people who made a living reporting on the wrestling industry for years that went completely unchallenged...until many years later, when the people who were actually in the thick of it started a podcast to where Meltzer and Keller's false reporting was brought to their attention and so much of it was debunked...
Wade is far less worse than Dave. Even Austin has had Wade on his podcast. I think it's fair to say that Austin has never been a dirt sheet fan, so ... I personally don't hold as much against Wade like I do Dave
People say certain people came off bad in the Death of WCW documentary. Bret came off very bad in this episode. He came off very egotistical and narcissistic in this. Especially when describing the punch he gave to Vince.
It seems silly to you and Conrad because you are not old enough so it’s a generational gap thing and Eric takes it a little more seriously but not like the true wrestling guides because Eric was not born so to speak into wrestling so he does not think inside that box.but for the guys who were old enough to remember, when you really thought wrestling was real it was the only way they knew and the only way they had ever been trained so it was a shock
Bret was the last Main Event link to the last boom period for the WWF. He had been there during teh 80s at a high mid card level, and had seen that period. With him leaving and Shawn being a mess, Vince had to do something. It really was touch and go. If the screwjob is a work, Bret Hart is a bigger carny than Hulk Hogan
I will never consider the Curtain Call less than an afront to the audience and co-workers alike. They felt they were above the business and the only consequences were Triple H jobbing for a couple of months before being given the IC title. Many wrestlers at the time would have killed to be 'buried' in that manner.
Every WWE superstar from 1994 to this day owes their future and success to Hulk Hogan after he saved Vince McMahon from going to prison. Even though the federal government threatened Hogan and Hogan was going to wrestle his first match in WCW against Ric Flair. Hogan could have destroyed Vince and testified against him and sent him to prison for nine years and we would have seen Jerry Jarrett running WWE and making his son Jeff Jarrett the ًًًًWWF world champion and destroying WWE and in return all of this would be in the interest of Hogan and WCW. But no. Hogan saved Vince despite all the golden opportunities that were given to Hogan. That's why all the wrestlers like Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Roman Reigns, John Cena, Shawn Michaels, etc. all owe it to Hogan. Even the wrestling fans and especially the haters have no right to criticize him. Hogan is the greatest name in wrestling history, no question.
Hogan literally was wrestling during those times he was bigger then any company alone. Yes Austin came hot and was probably bigger during the like 4-5 years but the biggest star ever still is Hogan
Vince thought that any gimmick character he created would be able to be performed by anyone..and the person playing it could be replaced..and it didn’t matter if the human being that played that character originally was changed. Vince didn’t care about the people performing for him…he really didn’t. He owned their characters and saw them as JUST a body..JUST an actor that can be re-casted. These people were just looked at as human TOYS for Vince to make money off of
1:35:42 you AGREED that what Brett gained from the screw job was sympathetic baby face and a storyline that lives on. I remember in the 83 weeks starcade 97 you SPECIFICALLY said "what does hulk have to gain from messing up the finish he gets the same contract regardless" NO NO NO MUCKERFUTHER. HE GETS THE STORYLINE THAT HE BEAT STING CLEAN. AND that muddies the water of the finish to this day. Not that sting won back the title clean but that Hogan won and it was screwy from there. I love you Eric but that's also crazy hypocrisy
@@jordanford9320 i agree with you!! I am so opposed to this idea that everyone made out good as a result of the screwjob… Bret did not come off well on the other end of that deal.
This was the whole reason I never liked the WWE. It was always Vince’s and he let you know it however the WCW going back to Crockett always felt like the fans owned it. It was ours.
Always remember, wrestlers are "independent contracts" if a gc subs out a contract to a company, they do not drug test that company's employees. It's very loose thinking, but loopholes are just that loop holes.
I do first a foremost understand that that hogan or a copy of hogan for business is best for that star value business, however as a fan , I was done with hogan since flair- sid angle , that rumble , wrestlemania 9 ,until hogan " sold his soul to the nwo" i was done with hogan , bret/ Shawn, kept my tv on till 94/96, from the point I became old enough to know that there is a art to this thing, so I will never downgrade Bret ever just because if there was no Bret at least for myself it would have taken stone cold to bring me back
You didn't explain what they have in common. You just told us they were at the same venue. This would be like me saying you and Ronald McDonald have a lot in common because you were once at a McDonalds.
Absolutely ridiculous, to downplay the bret screwjob as being some kinda blessing or good thing for him. Bret was definitely screwed big time, in more than one way. One being in canada, and losing it to shawn who was being a dick at the time. But remember, vince was looked at as his father figure, and the agreement was if he were to lose, it would be by the match being called off due to interference from other wrestlers joining in into a brawl, so no winner or loser. But to have bret lose in a manner where he didn't tap, it went against the level of trust bret had for vince. He was lied to and what a stupid way to lose a match in his home town. That match ending could have killed the product. Imagine where a wrestler can lose, where the camera clearly shows no count out or tapping out. That's corruption and stupid, no wants to waste time watching that nonsense. Vince even said he wanted to be down at the ring to show bret whose boss. This was about power, throwing out personal relationship down the drain. Vince screwed bret in the end, not the other way around.
The whole 6 eps are an absolute snooze fest. “Mr McMahon” should have been titled “The History Of The WWE, with the stories we all know, and nothing interesting from VKM” Awful.
Last show I said I didn't like the guest, but I like and respect Wade Keller. Happy to see him with Eric. Great content!!
Agreed. Pat sucked
Nah this guy is a weak tard
Somebody tell Conrad that Rick Rude made the WWE HOF in 2017
Came here to say this
The special guest is taking this podcast to another level... These 3 together are a great trio 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Disagree
Mr. Bischoff I watched the whole series and cant help but to smurk and think Eric won the war 🙏❤️ you live a peaceful life with no disgrace and gave some of us 90's babies the best memories of our lives.
A wrestling show 30 years ago are your best memories. You gotta improve your life.
It was the corporate Turner shit that lost the war when they wanted Eric to tone shit down that was the reason they were hot and with WWF being independent owned they took what WCW was doing and took it to the limit. There's no WWE attitude era and no WWE nowadays without Eric running the world with NWO.
@@88smjls don’t hate on another fan being grateful to Eric for that Monday Nitro era. They’ll never be another era like it. Trust me. In college dorms right now w/Wwebeing red hot, they do not have a college football team, basketball team, baseball team, girls dance team, and cheerleading team, ALL watching pro wrestling and clicking back-and-forth with kegs in the suite and making a weekly party of it! That is what Monday Nitro brought to Pro wrestling on a main stream format that will never be seen again. That example I gave was waz my college basketball experience at Monmouth University both my freshman and sophomore season.
Eric lost vince won
This is easily my favorite episode of 83 weeks, which is really saying something because I watch every episode! This is the perfect marriage of the one person that was covering wrestling on the Internet, that was always a very good faith actor and would not report things without at least 3 to 4 sources before going to print unlike you know who. Love that you guys had Wade Keller on!!!
I thought Shawn Michaels had the most accurate comment about Bret's personality. He said Bret came off as a real person and not a cartoon character.
He pretty much was the same on and off screen
That was the allure. He had a real name, we knew who his parents were, who his sister was, his brothers, his in laws & us WWF Magazine readers knew who his son Dallas was, since he had his own column in there. He wasn’t from “Parts Unknown” & didn’t have an occupational gimmick. Bret was & still is real!
Yeah Shawn was really different in person
I know fans like to over, romanticize about Brett to him and Hart, nowadays, but as a kid, I thought he was corny as hell! He had no character development, and personally, I did not think he can kick somebody’s ass in a real fight. And as a kid, the last thing I was looking for in a prowrestler was their “work rate” or technical ability, LMFAO! 😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️I love how fans nowadays try to pretend they gave a shit about work rate when they were seven or eight years old.
@@mattmorgan2534exactly. Shawn was way more entertaining.
Did everyone just miss the Undertaker backing up Bret's version????? lol
Nope. I caught it
I've heard takers version before
Except that he described it as a looping overhand right and not an uppercut.
Who cares?
Rick rude was inducted in the wwe Hall of fame
Bret didn't need to be over charismatic. It was his gimmick. he was a Hitman. quiet, glasses, take you out with a sharpshooter. I think a lot of ppl missed that. His true gimmick was his work. he was the excellence of execution, he got the job done. Bret did the best he could, which is fairly close to the best there can be.
Lex.... I'm 42, watching it live at the time, I was sold. He was Hogan 2.0 but, the WWF needed a hero, so I'm just glad we didn't get G.I. Joe Scott Hall extra jacked jumping off that chopper. Did it really make sense when he just a Narcissist? no but, even then I knew it was wrestling.
he was never a big draw
@@bb-gc2tx Bret was one of the biggest draws ever internationally.
@@spiritdeezy9668 Bret doesn’t get the credit he deserves for carry that company through some pretty rough times when viewership was down. Bret also doesn’t get the recognition for being one of the few wrestlers in history in the WWF who got over purely based on his work in the ring. Anyone who says Bret didn’t have charisma is sadly mistaken. It’s a different type of charisma… not the loud, flamboyant charisma of a Ric Flair or Shawn Michaels.
To put him on the same level as Hulk Hogan though? Yes he did need to be charismatic. Only smart wrestling fans were Brett hitman Hart fans when he was at his peak. He did not translate to casual fans nor casual kids watching once in a blue moon. I was a smart fan, and I was not a fan of his because I grew up wanting the guys that were humongously muscular like Hulk Hogan ultimate warrior Carrie Von Eric and in the early 80s, giants like big John stud and Andre the giant.
@@CFDavid847 please! He gets romanticized way more than what his actual contributions to that company truly offered, financially speaking.
Eric is absolutely 💯 right about the reason for the doc & the timing. I asked the same thing with them investing in RAW & it's why they're telling it. To distance themselves. That was then...this is now.
This was a great episode, well done team. You should have Wade on more often! It made for a highly interesting discussion, looking at things from different angles. And it helps that Wade actually applies himself to his profession, without working on pure assumptions ‘from insiders’, and really knows his field well. Really enjoyed this one.
I won't have any Bret Hart slander; he's the goat to me.
Guy was a great wrestler but not no goat at all. Also my god Bret is pure egomaniac still to this day whining crying about anything that didn't go his way.
People say Bret wasn't a big deal yet they're still selling his merchandise on the wwe website to this day. I'd say he had an affect on people.
His Charisma is like watching paint dry
@@meanguy111that means you didn't grow up watching Bret. He definitely had the charisma he needed to have and he is still to this day the best heel of the 90s minus Mr. McMahon
I don’t get the “Bret Hart didn’t have enough charisma to be the top guy unless it’s transitional” take. He was one of my favorite wrestlers as a young teen/pre teen that liked NWA style wrestling better but liked WWF.
That’s fine but he just wasn’t a mega star like a Hogan, Savage, or Warrior.
@@Director2024 he was pretty big. Big enough for endorsements and tv commercials. Not sure what else he was missing. Plus, he was gigantic in Europe and of course Canada. And mic skills, he went back and forth with Michaels for years and doesn’t get credit for that, and that was mostly spontaneous promos.
@@81ghale I find it funny that most of the people in the business who talk trash about Bret, didn’t nearly have HALF the career he did… seems to me a bunch of jealous and insecure jerks.
@@81ghaleI liked Bret too but he really wasn’t big enough as a Hulk or Austin. He was closer to a face version of HHH, he could have great matches with the top stars but didn’t have the attitude for the attitude era that was approaching. A top guy, but not THE guy.
@@NoirTech83 well, nobody was really them lol. But he was a big a star as most champions that hold the belt.
This was awesome, wade Keller was an unexpected great guest
I get you need to make money through ads, but every 3-4 minutes? Come on 🤦
Well its their show so you cant do anything about it.
get premium it takes most of the ads away, not a bad price either
@@Itdoesntmatter48 yeah it’s F’ N ridiculous I commented on that too totally unwatchable with all the interruptions
In the words of the late great Tony Soprano.. Thats all it's about C*** Sucking Mutha F****** MONEY..
Conrad the Hutt is as greedy as they get.
The reason Eric should be proud of those 83 weeks because those werent the first 83 weeks of Nitro. They really had to work to build the company to the point they could compete with and even overtake the WWF for a whole year. Even if they didnt win the war the fact that they were able to win any battles at all is an incredible fucking achievement.
Wade hasn’t aged at all!!! Amazing considering that he cover wrestling, it has to be so frustrating at times 😂
I met Lex Luger at WrestleCon this year I said hello a few times and got a photo op but he did not interact with me it was actually a let down I can see what Eric says about Lex now.
well he's half fucking dead so I wouldn't worry about it
Why are there 3 people in this? I ONLY care about what Eric has to say. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time.
Had to shut this off. Not enough Eric. I'm just gonna skip other future videos with several people in them. Its bad enough having to hear Conrad let alone random people.
Same I was pissed off when Conrad said that they were having guests, nobody wants to hear anybody else other than Eric
Stories With Brisco and Bradshaw have a great podcast on Screwjohs. It’s a must watch
Bischoff can't help himself but to discredit Russo. Russo's writing style at WWF led to Bischoff getting sent home in September '99. Still bitter AF
I like Wade Keller. Does his absolute utmost to be an actual journalist.
Unlike Meltzer who has always been the ‘TMZ’ of wrestling.
I really enjoyed this episode. Having Wade on was great, and getting to hear both he and Eric's side on something and they are respectable to each other about it.
Wade Keller added a lot to this episode. Glad you had him on.
That uppercut comment threw me too. Hitting someone in the eye w an uppercut isn't possible le unless vince was bent over
Can we please have more episodes where Wade & Eric cover topics together? Having a real interview and discussion would be great.
Vince always seemed to forget it was fine to have Flair send the big gold WCW/NWA belt to WWF tv in 1991, but vice versa it was such a big deal.
Had Jim Herd had the foresight to pay Flair’s deposit before he fired him, different story.
@@MarioLabot Herd was simply the friend of Jack Petrick, he was the one that put Herd in charge. Really, I was surprised Vince had such an issue with Bret taking WWF title to Nitro when legally he couldnt. Vince should have known this from when Flair brought big gold to WWF in 1991.
Bring Wade on more. Nice guy.
Barrett or Dwayne?
@@pinroshan020nobody cares what Dwayne Wade has to say, the same guy trying to push his kid into being transgender. F him
He’s the best!!
Great job gents!
The documentary was the third most watched show on Netflix last week
Considering what we have since learned about Vince McMahon, Bret is even more of a hero for knocking him out.
He never gave Bret a 'free shot', he simply got his ass beat.
Jim Ross signed an NDA for life with Vince McMahon
What is NDA??????
@@delbertprince5302 REALLY????? How dumb are you?
@@delbertprince5302non disclosure agreement
@@delbertprince5302Non Disclosure Agreement, meaning you agree to not talk about whatever is in the agreement. It could be anything
@@NoirTech83 oh ok
I was scrolling through the tv guide and stumbled across aew rampage, there might have been 200 fans left in the arena for the main event..which was in a side by side view with commercials for about 5 solid minutes
Still have every copy of The Torch, while I was subscribed in the 90s.
Eric your Twitter must be super toxic bc we on RUclips love you bro! Keep doing it man!
I appreciate the part about Bret Hart not losing, thats actually a cool perspective flip
Taker is the only human being that knew Vince personally, that’d ever even think about jumping in front of a 🔫 to protect Vince. Everyone else that ever worked for Vince, or that’s in his family..would literally jump away from Vince and harms way..and ask Vince ….”omg..are you ok, Vince?”
Does hogan shop say opened 400 days a year
I feel so sorry for Shane Linda and Stephanie. They are the real losers in this story.
Sad Lyfe!
Why? They are all willing participants. If they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't. Vince didn't force them to do anything.
No, the real losers are Vince's victims who died before they got justice.
@@freemind6954 obviously 🙄 them
@@Lihtsleeper Then why feel sorry for the family? They turned a blind eye to a lot of the nefarious things Vince did.
Bret had every right to explore his career options in 1992, much like anyone else in another career. As far as Montreal goes, apply the situation to your own career and life. I agree that Bret ultimately got out of losing the belt by being screwed, but you're taking the human element out of the whole thing. It wasn't a storyline, it was a real situation.
The guys in the /bald sub on reddit would say Wade Keller needs to shave his head. LOL
Let’s get a McMahon special guest
I’m rooting for Shane McMahon to be successful and to compete with WWE if that’s what he chooses to do. He seems like he’s a great son..and all he wanted was his father to be proud of him..like how how Vince wanted his father to be proud of him..and to get that love. ..and it’s wonderful to see that he did..just like Vince got from his father at the end. It took so much to get it though..for both Vince & Shane. I feel Vince was hard on Shane like his father was hard on him..for better or worse..that’s what made Vince become ultra driven and successful. I feel he wanted that for Shane..but he wasn’t going to give him the company in the end..because Stephanie was more like him.
But i feel in my heart of hearts, if Shane had his own promotion..or joined another one..he could compete with WWE..because he’s a good man..and..he’s a McMahon. Don’t underestimate him
Love the Afa and Sika story mouthing to jury " not guilty 😂😂"
I Was So Confused When Vince Said stuff About How The Way he Swiped Wrestlers Was Different From What WCW Was Doing with Getting Wrestlers From WWE
It is painfully obvious Steph was the one who leaked the story.
How so?
I like Dave Meltzer reporting skills about wrestling......
Really enjoyed Wade being on. Unlike Dave, he doesn't state as fact things that he simply heard from others. Came across as a nice guy and I thought he added a lot to the discussion.
At least Eric is honest and don’t hold back. Can’t say the same for Vince 😂
I am listening to this at work and as I'm just listening to they guys talk....Am I the only one that thinks Eric sounds like Kurt Angle?
Rick rude is in the hall of fame
Wade Keller is no better than Dave Meltzer... They are people who made a living reporting on the wrestling industry for years that went completely unchallenged...until many years later, when the people who were actually in the thick of it started a podcast to where Meltzer and Keller's false reporting was brought to their attention and so much of it was debunked...
Wade is far less worse than Dave. Even Austin has had Wade on his podcast. I think it's fair to say that Austin has never been a dirt sheet fan, so ... I personally don't hold as much against Wade like I do Dave
Wade did and does research. Dave just makes shit up and runnings with it.
Nah man. Wade is legit. Dave is a fanboy who lost all credibility years ago.
Yes cause no one has ever accused Prichard or Bischoff of being self serving and full of shit
Wrong but okay
Make Wade a regular feature!
People say certain people came off bad in the Death of WCW documentary. Bret came off very bad in this episode. He came off very egotistical and narcissistic in this. Especially when describing the punch he gave to Vince.
Bret is a very big fan of himself
@@Rosario_VeranoBret doesn’t know it’s not real
Why did you put all Wade Keller’s comments at 1.5x speed? Dude makes the Micro Machines guy jealous.
This episode was a lot better then the last episode.
Wade talk like he's being fast forwarded slow down buddy
Dude i seriously thought the video was sped up during his parts 🤣🤣
@@RLS_91 literally 😂
Wish they woulda had wade on last Episode to address the creepy pat Patterson stuff. Instead of French guy that made excuses for him
did conrad say rick rude is not in the wwe hof??
It seems silly to you and Conrad because you are not old enough so it’s a generational gap thing and Eric takes it a little more seriously but not like the true wrestling guides because Eric was not born so to speak into wrestling so he does not think inside that box.but for the guys who were old enough to remember, when you really thought wrestling was real it was the only way they knew and the only way they had ever been trained so it was a shock
Bret was the last Main Event link to the last boom period for the WWF. He had been there during teh 80s at a high mid card level, and had seen that period. With him leaving and Shawn being a mess, Vince had to do something. It really was touch and go.
If the screwjob is a work, Bret Hart is a bigger carny than Hulk Hogan
I will never consider the Curtain Call less than an afront to the audience and co-workers alike.
They felt they were above the business and the only consequences were Triple H jobbing for a couple of months before being given the IC title.
Many wrestlers at the time would have killed to be 'buried' in that manner.
I dated a girl who got her dad's genes while the irish twin got her mom's genes. It is common.
Have Wade back. Very cool
maximum ads on this video. do you really gotta scrape every penny geez
Every WWE superstar from 1994 to this day owes their future and success to Hulk Hogan after he saved Vince McMahon from going to prison. Even though the federal government threatened Hogan and Hogan was going to wrestle his first match in WCW against Ric Flair. Hogan could have destroyed Vince and testified against him and sent him to prison for nine years and we would have seen Jerry Jarrett running WWE and making his son Jeff Jarrett the ًًًًWWF world champion and destroying WWE and in return all of this would be in the interest of Hogan and WCW. But no. Hogan saved Vince despite all the golden opportunities that were given to Hogan. That's why all the wrestlers like Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Roman Reigns, John Cena, Shawn Michaels, etc. all owe it to Hogan. Even the wrestling fans and especially the haters have no right to criticize him. Hogan is the greatest name in wrestling history, no question.
Agree about Hulk Hogan
Hogan literally was wrestling during those times he was bigger then any company alone. Yes Austin came hot and was probably bigger during the like 4-5 years but the biggest star ever still is Hogan
Vince thought that any gimmick character he created would be able to be performed by anyone..and the person playing it could be replaced..and it didn’t matter if the human being that played that character originally was changed. Vince didn’t care about the people performing for him…he really didn’t. He owned their characters and saw them as JUST a body..JUST an actor that can be re-casted. These people were just looked at as human TOYS for Vince to make money off of
Keller on 1.75 while everyone else at regular speed.
Wade is great on here! Need more of these "Starrcast" like events
1:35:42 you AGREED that what Brett gained from the screw job was sympathetic baby face and a storyline that lives on.
I remember in the 83 weeks starcade 97 you SPECIFICALLY said "what does hulk have to gain from messing up the finish he gets the same contract regardless" NO NO NO MUCKERFUTHER. HE GETS THE STORYLINE THAT HE BEAT STING CLEAN. AND that muddies the water of the finish to this day. Not that sting won back the title clean but that Hogan won and it was screwy from there.
I love you Eric but that's also crazy hypocrisy
@@jordanford9320 i agree with you!! I am so opposed to this idea that everyone made out good as a result of the screwjob… Bret did not come off well on the other end of that deal.
Would love to see Russo on here like this. Eric and Russo almost say the exact same things about Wrestling
This was the whole reason I never liked the WWE. It was always Vince’s and he let you know it however the WCW going back to Crockett always felt like the fans owned it. It was ours.
Please get Meltzer on.
Always remember, wrestlers are "independent contracts" if a gc subs out a contract to a company, they do not drug test that company's employees. It's very loose thinking, but loopholes are just that loop holes.
Bunch of Bret Hart haters on this podcast. Wade Keller and Eric Bischoff are both goofs.
Bring Meltzer on next
this was a shocker
Scott hall always said it was a work
I do first a foremost understand that that hogan or a copy of hogan for business is best for that star value business, however as a fan , I was done with hogan since flair- sid angle , that rumble , wrestlemania 9 ,until hogan " sold his soul to the nwo" i was done with hogan , bret/ Shawn, kept my tv on till 94/96, from the point I became old enough to know that there is a art to this thing, so I will never downgrade Bret ever just because if there was no Bret at least for myself it would have taken stone cold to bring me back
20:20 mark. Never saw Rick Rude go into the Hall of Fame? He was inducted. Or do you mean him actually accepting on his own behalf
Rick rude is in the HoF.
This show was more about WWE and not Vince?
I didn't like the last guest at all. He was a clown 🤡 who apologized for Pat Patterson and his gross ways.
i didnt know they did that wendy surprised me
Try get Russell brand for ep 5
Vince tells him to take steroids. Then makes sexual advances 😂😂😂😂
Stop putting people on we don't ask for. Just talk about the show
I may be in the minority and that’s fine…I was looking forward to this series but the guests kill it for me.
Wendy shooting on Mula
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Conrad PLEASE….. don’t get up
This show might have been better on wise choices or with another host.
Vince McMahon and P Diddy have a lot in common. P diddy participated in wrestlemania 29.
You didn't explain what they have in common. You just told us they were at the same venue. This would be like me saying you and Ronald McDonald have a lot in common because you were once at a McDonalds.
@@mrrinkusu they committed a lot of sexual acts
If conrad got meltzer on with Eric I lol so much
Ride in HOF in 2017
Absolutely ridiculous, to downplay the bret screwjob as being some kinda blessing or good thing for him. Bret was definitely screwed big time, in more than one way. One being in canada, and losing it to shawn who was being a dick at the time. But remember, vince was looked at as his father figure, and the agreement was if he were to lose, it would be by the match being called off due to interference from other wrestlers joining in into a brawl, so no winner or loser.
But to have bret lose in a manner where he didn't tap, it went against the level of trust bret had for vince. He was lied to and what a stupid way to lose a match in his home town.
That match ending could have killed the product. Imagine where a wrestler can lose, where the camera clearly shows no count out or tapping out. That's corruption and stupid, no wants to waste time watching that nonsense.
Vince even said he wanted to be down at the ring to show bret whose boss. This was about power, throwing out personal relationship down the drain. Vince screwed bret in the end, not the other way around.
I was wondering if they had caught that rape comment made by Vince. They did
FOUR m.f. ads in 5 minutes. This is rediculous
The whole 6 eps are an absolute snooze fest.
“Mr McMahon” should have been titled “The History Of The WWE, with the stories we all know, and nothing interesting from VKM”
Awful.
It wasn’t made for people who know the stories, it’s for casuals or people who don’t even watch the product.
It was filmed pre TKO sale when he was still in charge. What did you expect? Vince was not letting out real dirt. Ever.
You weren't the target audience
The last episode was by far the best episode.
hogan only worked because of kevin and scott,, lol brett got humiliated