@@johndeeregreen4592 Hello. Lyric doesn’t mean to have a light timbre. Lyric and dramatic means how strong and how many upper harmonics your voice has. A dramatic voice (Glenn Miller for example) shares a lot more stronger upper harmonics while a lyric voice doesn’t share so many strong upper harmonics. Vladimir Miller is definitely a Basso Profondo. He sounds to me like a lyric profondo because I don’t think he’s a dramatic one. A dramatic one would be Glenn Miller. Have a nice day. PS: Don’t worry if you didn’t know the definition of these terms before. I didn’t know them too for a while. I thought like you that lyric means light timbre and dramatic means deep, dark and heavy voice with a extended lower end range.
@@profdrrernatshekelstein I agree with you. Lyric is not the same thing as "light." For example, lyric baritones don't usually sound like tenors with lower extensions unlike what we might think. I'm a lyric baritone, and my voice my be a little bit light for a baritone, but not much. In my opinion, my voice doesn't really sound like a tenor's timbre but with a baritone's tessitura.
Glad to see 19:25 included :) Would love to see vocal range videos for other oktavists Hahaha those sub Eb1s were nice I would probably say 4:12 is not chest or something like that Great research
yeah ill probably do some oktavist themed videos in the future also i thought the same about the Eb4 but couldn't figure out what it was...maybe a weird mix?
Советую посмотреть также в сторону записи "В. Соловьев-Седой: Подмосковные вечера. Мужской хор 'Оптина Пустынь', под руководством А. Семенова" (продолжительность 2:27). Там поют М.Круглов и В.Миллер, но именно Владимир Робертович поет самый низ. В это время он был, если не ошибаюсь, простужен.
Great basso profundo with an interesting timbre. Altough weak vibratto and his voice overally is very often shaky and uncontrolled, especially in lower notes.
His tone is oddly dark around C#2. It makes it sound like the note is much lower. I am a basso profondo and have the vocal weight at C2(ish), but not his DARK timbre. I actually love it. He is a bit unconventional, in my opinion, but his tone really fits some more somber songs better than other people's.
@@vitormrmr only the one at the end of Ave Maria live was a modal voice. If you want evidence just search for Vladimir Miller Eternal Memory and he hits a G1 twice there, its clearly hearable its fry
@@vitormrmr no i dont think so. His voice is much sharper. And thats very funny because he can sing his lowest notes with big power. Glenn has louder timbre and overtones but i think vladimir has just a wider larynx (he is clearly bigger man than glenn haha) so he sounds a bit rounder. Of course glenn can go lower about 2 tones i guess. Another very interesting thing is how his voice is close to vocal fry - there is a very thin line between them. He easily enters the subharmonics BY ACCIDENT. I know only one oktavist which had such an ease in accidential subharmonics and it was the great Zlatopolsky
definitely a natural profundo/oktavist and a good singer but around A1 his voice starts to sound forced. id say on the basso profundo spectrum he's on the mid-high end, compared to glenn miller who's on the low end
I mean he's lower-pitched than your typical basso profondo but higher than your typical oktavist. And Glenn Miller, in my opinion, is around on the medium-low end. Sometimes Glenn can hit notes such as Bb0 in chest, but he usually bottoms out at F1. I've heard several low basses with even more comfortable and consistent low notes than Glenn Miller.
Its very interesting I also heard many strange accidential subharmonics in other oktavists voices (pasjukov, zlatopolsky EVEN G0) its very interesting why these strange cracks happen
Yeah, his vibratto is probably the weakest part of his voice. His voice alone is great of course but that vibratto is inconsistent and very shaky. It's not something that you would expect from someone with such a musical background.
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A legit light voice oktavist. Awesome voice.
If there was such a thing, I would call him a lyrical Oktavist; nearly a cross between a basso profondo and an Oktavist.
@@johndeeregreen4592 Hello. Lyric doesn’t mean to have a light timbre. Lyric and dramatic means how strong and how many upper harmonics your voice has. A dramatic voice (Glenn Miller for example) shares a lot more stronger upper harmonics while a lyric voice doesn’t share so many strong upper harmonics. Vladimir Miller is definitely a Basso Profondo. He sounds to me like a lyric profondo because I don’t think he’s a dramatic one. A dramatic one would be Glenn Miller. Have a nice day.
PS: Don’t worry if you didn’t know the definition of these terms before. I didn’t know them too for a while. I thought like you that lyric means light timbre and dramatic means deep, dark and heavy voice with a extended lower end range.
@@profdrrernatshekelstein I agree with you. Lyric is not the same thing as "light." For example, lyric baritones don't usually sound like tenors with lower extensions unlike what we might think. I'm a lyric baritone, and my voice my be a little bit light for a baritone, but not much. In my opinion, my voice doesn't really sound like a tenor's timbre but with a baritone's tessitura.
Was waiting for this!!
Love his F#1 sooo muchhh
How can someone be this good at hitting subharmonic notes accidentally?😂
haha thought the same thing
Accidental subs are always my best ones lol.
Nice video
Lol he just talks in subs
@@Marcell0Bass I want that to become my secret talent one day.😂
He talks with a lot of fry ig
Nice video, man! I love his voice so much!
His range without accidental subharmonics or falsetto, is E1-F4. Impressive.
Glad to see 19:25 included :)
Would love to see vocal range videos for other oktavists
Hahaha those sub Eb1s were nice
I would probably say 4:12 is not chest or something like that
Great research
yeah ill probably do some oktavist themed videos in the future
also i thought the same about the Eb4 but couldn't figure out what it was...maybe a weird mix?
@@TM-pf1kp probably head/falsetto
17:20 That was actually an accidental subharmonic
This has made my day
Great video! But I desagree that G1 at 17:49 is full chest, I also desagree that his F#1(from thebassmanadam compilation) is chest.
It has a bit fried
@@vitormrmr Miller's chest-fry seems to have aways aways a similar sound.
I was waiting for this. Wow you're fast lol
yeah i was surprised myself
Советую посмотреть также в сторону записи "В. Соловьев-Седой: Подмосковные вечера. Мужской хор 'Оптина Пустынь', под руководством А. Семенова" (продолжительность 2:27). Там поют М.Круглов и В.Миллер, но именно Владимир Робертович поет самый низ. В это время он был, если не ошибаюсь, простужен.
Great basso profundo with an interesting timbre. Altough weak vibratto and his voice overally is very often shaky and uncontrolled, especially in lower notes.
His tone is oddly dark around C#2. It makes it sound like the note is much lower. I am a basso profondo and have the vocal weight at C2(ish), but not his DARK timbre. I actually love it. He is a bit unconventional, in my opinion, but his tone really fits some more somber songs better than other people's.
That E1 sounds more like an E2 to me.
Is the note at 17:13 a G0?
yes it is
Yes, another accidential subharmonics
Is there a translation for 20:03 ?
Create some unbelievable coloring(or tone or something, can't hear right) in opera. Also says he had high voice as a boy
@@DeLoira Thanks for that. I thought it might have had to do with that sub. The woman seemed to react to it. And then he did it again.
@@Noah-hq5rs They never mentioned sub in any clip, unfortunately
@@DeLoira Okay. I gotta try and find the whole interview and maybe with english captions
17:43 I think this G1 is actually a sharp G#1
For me that sounds like G1 (maybe sharp G1 or flat G#1 at some point).
What is his daily lowest and highest?
Daily lowest is probably something like A1/G#1.
@@MultiKamil97 In an interview with Alexander Mayang he said that his daily lowest sounding is A1/G1 but he can hit an F1
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Everything below Ab1 is fried. He just is a profondo and his fry is powerful
Any G1 sang by him is only fry?
@@vitormrmr only the one at the end of Ave Maria live was a modal voice. If you want evidence just search for Vladimir Miller Eternal Memory and he hits a G1 twice there, its clearly hearable its fry
@@JAC0B_BASS G1 was a limit.
His voice is way lighter than other Miller(Glenn).
@@vitormrmr no i dont think so. His voice is much sharper. And thats very funny because he can sing his lowest notes with big power. Glenn has louder timbre and overtones but i think vladimir has just a wider larynx (he is clearly bigger man than glenn haha) so he sounds a bit rounder. Of course glenn can go lower about 2 tones i guess. Another very interesting thing is how his voice is close to vocal fry - there is a very thin line between them. He easily enters the subharmonics BY ACCIDENT. I know only one oktavist which had such an ease in accidential subharmonics and it was the great Zlatopolsky
@@JAC0B_BASS Vladimir Miller's voice's full of overtones until B1, Glenn's one is until G#1.
Finally
definitely a natural profundo/oktavist and a good singer but around A1 his voice starts to sound forced. id say on the basso profundo spectrum he's on the mid-high end, compared to glenn miller who's on the low end
I mean he's lower-pitched than your typical basso profondo but higher than your typical oktavist. And Glenn Miller, in my opinion, is around on the medium-low end. Sometimes Glenn can hit notes such as Bb0 in chest, but he usually bottoms out at F1. I've heard several low basses with even more comfortable and consistent low notes than Glenn Miller.
@@bradycall1889But were they as powerful as Glenn down there? Glenn literally sounds like a ferry horn when singing G1. His power is extraordinary.
amazing
2:43
Real bass. That being said majority of those notes below F1 don't count, neither sung nor intentional pitches.
G#1 Is 100% Vladimir millers money note
I think that first b1 sounds like a c2
so interesting
thanks, nice pfp too :)
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Him and thatbassvoice would be insane
His voice isn’t pretty, but has a ton of character and presence. Very much like Kurt Moll.
An excellent bass but I don't find his notes around middle C convincing. It's in his true voice that he sounds best.
with all due respect for a legendary oktavist, but his vibrato sounds a little silly sometimes
Go mikhail kruglov.
yeah, he's definitely on my list
@@TM-pf1kp i'm russian. Mozho po russki
Can you put in the title his vocal range please?
Nah mate that’s a spoiler
I don't understand why he doesn't work on his technique. The upper region of his chest voice is very badly produced.
Do you sing? Do you have any experiences with singing?
@ I work in opera.
супер 👍
Didnt know he speaks german
Its very interesting I also heard many strange accidential subharmonics in other oktavists voices (pasjukov, zlatopolsky EVEN G0) its very interesting why these strange cracks happen
Eh, I'm not a fan of Vlad Miller. His first octave lows even with a microphone seem weak, shaky, and fried.
I’ll respectfully disagree. He’s a good basso profondo. Is he the best? No, he can work on his technique I think. But he is very good indeed.
@@bradycall1889 he is not a singer. Not professional i mean. He is musicologist
He has lost his high notes - he can't go above middle C.
I agree what happened he had a strong upper range when he was younger what happened to it? He has none at all now.
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Great, but i don't like his voice...exagerated vibrato
Yeah, his vibratto is probably the weakest part of his voice. His voice alone is great of course but that vibratto is inconsistent and very shaky. It's not something that you would expect from someone with such a musical background.